Welcome to the Runners Zone Podcast hosted by Nathan Carlson and Chris Johnson. Lend us your ear as we We interview world leaders in endurance sports, discuss optimizing performance for runnings and help provide practical solutions to common running problems. We also discuss life as niche-practice business owners treating and training runners.
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Episode 70: Stop putting tools in your toolbox
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35:03Join Chris and Nathan for Bones Tendons Weights & Whistles @ Motion PT in New York City on October 4-5. To learn more click HERE. Episode Timestamps 2:00 "Put more tools in your toolbox" is a bad message 6:00 Red flags in a con ed course or instructor 7:40 You only have so much time for a test 8:00 More is not always better 11:00 The best tests for…
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Episode 69: How to disagree with physicians
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42:46Join Chris and Nathan for Bones Tendons Weights & Whistles @ Motion PT in New York City on October 4-5. To learn more click HERE. Episode Timestamps 2:00 When PTs and doctors clash 9:10 How to do well by patients 10:30 Disagreeing on when a patient can run 14:00 Patients need a unified providers 17:30 A challenging navicular BSI 22:00 The need to h…
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Episode 68: How much running will get you hurt?
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38:14Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast. Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global online community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endurance athletes. For over 10 years, we’ve helped passionate professionals fast-track their skills, grow their confid…
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Episode 67: Pillars of professional success
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48:53Thanks for tuning into The Runners Zone Podcast. Chris and I would love it if you gave us a review as those really help us continue to produce episodes. The Runners Zone Want to work with runners and build a thriving business around it? The Runner’s Zone is an upbeat, global community of clinicians, coaches, and trainers who love working with endur…
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Episode 66: Does zero pain mean you can run?
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44:44Chris and Nathan both have new online courses for you to check out. Nathan's course Rebuild: BSI Management https://runningmatekc.com/rebuild-bone-stress-injury-online-course/ Chris's Course: Clinical Running Essentials https://chrisjohnsonpt.com/clinical-running-essentials/ In this episode, Chris and Nathan dive into 2:00 Does an absensce of pain …
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Episode 65: What do you struggle with in the clinic?
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30:32Boston Bones, Tendons, Weights, & Whistles https://chrisjohnsonpt.com/product/bones-tendons-weights-whistles-boston-march-2025/ Timestamps: 2:20 What’s new with Chris4:30 What’s new with Nathan5:30 Case study one - vague hip pain14:10 Case study two - glute med tendinopathy?16:30 Chris and Nathan come to Boston18:20 Solopreneuer corner: One tip for…
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Episode 64: The Skills You Don't Learn in School
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39:48To learn more about Chris and Nathan's new business offer click below. https://skilled-teacher-862.kit.com/7fca4b4f3b Episode Timestamps 3:00 Taking time off around the holidays 6:30 Downtime in training and in business 9:00 The space between the stimulus and response 12:42 A new offering from Chris & Nathan 15:20 The non-clinical skills you need 2…
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Episode 63: Should You Run Through Pain?
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1:09:48Hey and welcome back to the RZ Podcast On episode 63 Nathan and Chris dive into navigating running related pain. They cover how we manage pain in our patients, when it’s necessary to push through pain or completely stop training, and how we help healthy runners navigate the inevitable discomfort of running. Bones, Tendons, Weights, and Whistles @ G…
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Episode 62: Starting a Running Business
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1:14:56In today's episode, Chris and Nathan dive into how to start your own running business. They cover their mistakes and failures in starting out, navigating social media, how to grow local relationships, and how to develop your unique voice. Chris and Nathan are excited to launch our 2024 Long Run Mastermind, designed to help you build a business you …
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Episode 61: A Practical Guide to Bone Stress Injuries
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1:28:27In today’s episode, Chris and Nathan discuss how we got into teaching continuing education and the need for seasonality in training and life. Then Chris puts Nathan on the hot seat to answer common questions about BSIs. Be sure to check out the studies they site below. LIFTMOR Study Robling Studies Hart Studies Surgical vs Conservative Mgmt papers …
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Episode 60: The Flavors of Patella Tendinopathy
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56:32Welcome back to the Runners Zone Podcast! In this episode Chris and Nathan break down the fundamentals of patella tendinopathy. They discuss key considerations around subjective testing, objective examination, exercise prescription, return to run progression, and strength training considerations. They break down three case studies on how these case…
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Episode 59: How Do You Measure Professional Progress?
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59:41Hey and welcome back to The Runners Zone Podcast. I’m Nathan Carlson. Today, Chris and I discussed how we measure professional progress. We discuss how this has evolved from new grads to business owners. Chris and I will be bringing BTWW to Nashville, Tennessess at Wolfe Pt this Septemeber 30th-October 1st. We are pumped to share how we approach ma…
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Episode 58: Developing Running Plans for Patients and Clients
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1:12:56In today's episode, Chris and I discuss how we approach designing running plans for our patients getting back to training and competition and how we coach athletes for performance and longevity. We discuss practical case examples and the need for open/honest communication, how to balancing work and life with training. Finally, we discuss how we app…
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Episode 57: You Graduated PT School...Now What?
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58:16In today’s episode, Chris and I explain how to navigate your PT career as a new grad. We cover the mentors and experiences that have shaped our professional careers and try to pull out some key ideas for new grads just starting their careers. If you have enjoyed The Runners Zone Podcast, we'd love it if you gave us a review and shared it with a fri…
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Episode 56: Luke Nelson on The Calf Muscle Complex
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1:02:20In this episode, Nathan and Chris sat down with chiropractor Luke Nelson. Luke has 20 years of experience working with runners and endurance athletes and has a particular interest in the calf muscle complex. He breaks how to assess calf and foot strength and how that . He also speaks to the importance of how to apply that data to the unique patient…
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Episode 55: Myths, Meniscus Tears, & Managing Knee Pain
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48:59In this episode, Chris and Nathan break down intra-articular pain. They cover runners dealing with Meniscus tears, cartilage damage, and ligament injuries breaking down the essentials to a quality examination. The dissect important misconceptions about what to do and not do with these injuries. Envelope of Function Presence of Abnormal Findings in …
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Episode 54: Getting a Grip on Your Hip - Pain, Pathology, & Programming
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55:46In this episode, Chris and Nathan dive into everything you need to know about your hip and running. They cover how they've changed their views on the runner's hip, managing hip pain, key assessments to understand, programming principles to improve hip strength. Be sure to check out the show resources and articles below! Nathan's Youtube Chris Newsl…
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Episode 53: Maybe Runners Shouldn't Lift?
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1:12:08Hey welcome back to the RZ podcast. On this episode, Chris and Nathan dive into why some runners shouldn’t lift weights. Be sure to check out the references and useful links from the podcast below! Strength and Conditioning for Runners https://www.amazon.com/Strength-Conditioning-Endurance-Running-Blagrove/dp/1847979874 Effects of Strength Training…
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Episode 52: Handling Complex Stress Fractures
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46:33In this epsiode, Nathan and Chris break down the current state of injuries and triathlong, expected timelines for racing after a stress fracture, and how "life loads" are often more important than "training loads". RunWell is a website to help runners run with more confidence and less pain by providing actionable guides, timeless training plans, an…
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In this episode, Chris sat down with Greg Lehman. Greg is a chiropractor and physiotherapist based out of Canada. Greg is extensively published in the literature on manual therapy and exercise biomechanics. In his clinical and teaching roles, he blends the fields of biomechanics, pain science, and psychology to help active individuals with injury m…
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In this episode, Nathan sat down with Creighton Cross Country and Track Coach Chris Gannon. Coach Gannon talks about navigating collegiate running, the recruiting process, how to coach athletes that have to compete for nine months a year, what success looks like, and how we can be better advocates for our athlete's mental health and well-being. If …
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Episode 49: Having Difficult Conversations
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57:03In this episode, Nathan and Chris discuss the need to have difficult conversations with patients and athletes. They explore the college recruiting process, navigating challenging coaching and life situations, and discuss how to set patients up for long-term success.
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Dr. Michelle Barrack is a registered dietitian and associate professor of Nutrition and Dietetics at California State University at Long Beach. She is the President of the Athlete Triad Coalition and a world-renowned researcher on the topics of the Male and Female Athlete Triad, bone density in endurance athletes, and youth endurance sports. To lea…
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Linda Steinhardt is a registered dietitian based out of Denver Colorado. In this episode, Linda talks about her research on athletes' perception of body comp testing and the negative experiences that are quite common. Linda also shares her thoughts on what we can do to better utilize testing with athletes without jeopardizing their mental and physi…
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Episode 46: How We Approach Social Media
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1:02:17In this episode, Chris and Nathan discuss their history and current approach to social media. They cover the challenges young clinicians and entrepreneurs face and some tips for navigating the social media landscape. Thanks for listening!
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