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Cracking Copy

Ella Hoyos and Minnie McBride

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Cracking Copy Is a marketing and copywriting podcast where we lift the lid on writing for business and read between the lines of effective copy. This is a podcast for creative entrepreneurs and savvy business owners who understand the value that great copy can bring to their bottom line. We dive into a different aspect of writing for business in each episode, debunk the myths about how we *should* write, and explore the ways that writing can be fun, conversational, and creative while also be ...
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In this episode, episode 4 of our AI series for copywriters or anyone who writes business copy, we’re cutting through the jazz hands and hype to talk about the real skills copywriters need to stay sharp in an AI-assisted world. Spoiler: tools are only half the story. Here’s what you’ll walk away with: The 4 must-have skills to future-proof your cop…
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Listen up as Minnie and Ella discuss the challenges and opportunities of using AI in copywriting. This episode is for you if you are figuring out how to maintain your authentic brand voice while leveraging AI for efficiency. You'll hear a working example as they demonstrate specific case study to highlight the differences of human writing vs AI tex…
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AI Meets Copy: Productivity Hacks That Still Feel Human In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella and Minnie explore how generative AI can streamline your writing workflow—without losing the human touch. From brainstorming ideas and building content outlines to refining drafts and automating repetitive tasks, we look at where AI can genuinely boost pr…
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In this kickoff episode of our AI and Copywriting mini-series, expert copywriters Ella and Minnie explore the booming world of AI copywriting tools—like ChatGPT, Jasper, and Copy.ai—and unpack whether they’re truly revolutionary or just clever tech hype. We dive into how generative AI has gone from novelty to necessity since 2022, with tools now st…
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In this episode, Ella is joined by tech automation expert Nicola Walsh, founder of This Mum Loves Tech, to explore how automation and AI can revolutionise not just business operations, but also copywriting workflows. The best written sales copy won't sell if the tech isn't set up correctly, the funnel is broken or the emails are not firing right. C…
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Scaling a business isn’t just about landing more clients - it’s about having the right systems in place to support your growth without burning out. That’s why today, I’m speaking with Sandra Booker, the Fractional COO to the Copywriting elite, and a business choreography master who helps ambitious founders streamline their backend operations so the…
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This episode of Cracking Copy focuses on the importance of creating marketing materials with consideration for accessibility, user experience (UX) and neurodiversity. Ella talks to Caroline Vermeulen, a graphic designer and branding specialist. Caroline’s work in accessibility, including experience with visual impairments, colour blindness, dyslexi…
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Picture this: you're slumped in your cubicle, encased by soul-crushing blue felt walls, staring at a blank screen. Another day, another thrilling attempt to “leverage a strategic approach” to funnel leads and convert them into buyers of your iconic English Test product. Now scrap that depressing scene - rip it up and bin it! Because some companies?…
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In Episode 4 of our mini-series on writing copy for your website, Ella Hoyos talks with Linda Melone, an award-winning health and fitness copywriter. Linda shares her journey of crafting and optimizing website copy, emphasizing the importance of treating writing and editing as separate processes. Together, they explore seven essential copy checkpoi…
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Welcome to Episode 3 in our writing for websites series. In this episode we are looking at the three essential pages of your website. The welcome or home page, your about page and the contact page. This episode follows on from our previous 2 episodes in this series. Every company is different so the pages will vary from business to business but the…
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In this second episode in our Writing for Websites Series, we are going to give you some tips on how to ensure that the copy in your website will align with your target audience. We will be covering Revisiting your website’s purpose Your target audience and how to craft your writing to different personas/decision makers The visitor journey through …
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This is the first episode in our series about writing websites. How do you know if you even need a website in the first place? This episode still applies if you don’t yet have a website because we are going to be discussing: Why you need one The signs to look for that indicate it's time to review your copy if you’ve had one for a while. Why is it i…
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Do you know what the most profitable levers and high leverage activities are in your business? The answer might surprise you - especially when you are consumed with the day to day operations, so busy with clients & delivery that you've lost focus on your ROI. In this episode, Ella Hoyos gets chatty with Frenchie Ferenczi, a seasoned revenue strateg…
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This episode of Cracking Copy addresses the importance of the brief. The copywriting brief is all the information you need to nail your copy in the first draft. This episode is a must listen if you are: The client doing the briefing A copywriter taking a brief from a client or If you’re looking to write your own copy, because you will need to under…
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In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella Hoyos welcomes Billy Broas, author of "Simple Marketing for Smart People" and creator of the Five Light Bulbs framework. Billy shares his journey from corporate life to becoming a marketing strategist, and how his passion for beer brewing led him to discover the power of effective copywriting. This episode is …
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How can you define yourself and your messages in an online sea of sameness? In the age of generative AI, personal branding is ever more important when promoting yourself and your services online. In this episode, Ella Hoyos chats to Barbara Shimasaki. Barbara has over 30 years of experience as a marketing designer, mentor and motivational speaker. …
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In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella Hoyos is joined by Valentina Turchetti, co-founder of Your Digital Web, an SEO and digital marketing agency based in Italy. Valentina shares her expertise on content marketing for lead generation and SEO, providing invaluable insights for businesses looking to transform website sessions into conversions. We de…
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In this episode we are looking at what’s involved in writing a sales page for your online product or service and the key things to think about. Minnie interviews co-host, Ella, as she is brilliant at them and has tons of experience of successful product/service launches by crafting killer sales pages. We will cover: The difference between a sales p…
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Without a deep understanding of who you are selling to, your chances of writing successful copy that converts is going to be a damn sight harder. In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella Hoyos delves into the essential world of customer research with special guest Dr. Mimi Zhou. Mimi, a conversion copywriter and email strategist, highlights the pivot…
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If you’re looking to launch an online course or product, what do you need to think about with regard to marketing collateral and messaging? In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella and Minnie are looking at the customer journey, from building awareness to the buying stage. And we give you our insights into what you will need to create how to communic…
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In this episode, Ella Hoyos sits down with Konrad Sanders, the CEO of The Creative Copywriter, to delve into the transformative power of frameworks in copywriting and content strategy. Konrad shares how his journey from philosophy graduate, to charity work in Australia, then jobless in Israel, were all necessary prerequisites to heading up a thrivi…
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Tempted to peak behind the curtain to see how a podcast is assembled? Then this episode is for you! In this 30 minute show, we break down our process for Cracking Copy, from planning to recording, editing to hosting and promotion to publishing. It's the second part of our 2 part mini-series on how we started the podcast and what's involved on a wee…
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Today’s episode of Cracking Copy is the first of a two-parter on podcasting for beginners. It is a subject a little removed from our usual copywriting tips, however it has been and is, a great marketing tool for both of us and we wanted to share our own pod-story to hopefully inspire you to think seriously about whether you have a podcast in you to…
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In this episode, Ella sits down with a remarkable guest, Claire Cunningham, a former school teacher turned copywriter, who not only cracked the code to writing captivating copy but also expanded her skills to specialise in website and UX copywriting. It’s another dive deep into the world of writing that sells, persuades, and connects. In this 30-mi…
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Reviews and testimonials only tell half of your customers’ stories. Having evidence-based case studies detailing how you helped a customer solve their problem is a highly effective marketing and lead-generation tool for your business. Today on the podcast, Minnie chats with Tam Henderson, founder of CopyKooks online school for copywriters, B2B copy…
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How much more productive could you be, or how empowered would you feel, if you had a coach or mentor to guide you? Ella Hoyos explores this topic with Dr. Nicole Janz, a seasoned writing coach, and the mastermind behind a groundbreaking tool for writers. This episode is for you if you’ve ever struggled in writing alone. We talk about some of the si…
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Today we are keeping it brief in our new series of shorts with a 20-minute episode on hooks and tips on how to hook your ideal customer. What do we mean by a hook? Well, Ella and Minnie are talking about the golden words that stop your ideal customer in their scrolling tracks. You have a momentary window of time to persuade someone to stop and find…
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It’s been said that everyone has a book inside them. But how many of us take up that challenge? In this week’s episode, Minnie talks to the wonderful Emma Simpson, who did just that and gave up her high-paid job to be a full-time writer. Emma talks candidly about how and why she decided to be a writer of narrative non-fiction. She highlights the jo…
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How do you know if what you read online is honest and true? This week Ella and Minnie are talking lies damned lies, misinformation, exaggeration and distrust. And how you can write and show up to build trust and be authentic with your audience. In a world where there is a general distrust of everything from government to media to products and servi…
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This week Ella and Minnie are talking funnels. Whut?! We’re not talking tubes and pipes that guide liquid into small openings. Or metal chimneys on ships and steam engines. We’re discussing the Sales Funnel, the journey potential customers go through on the way to purchasing a product or service. In this episode we cover: What the devil is a sales …
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Meet Sylva - a translator, journalist and author who has a gift for finding the silver-lining in every situation despite facing some major life blows. You’ll hear about a recent devastating loss which has seen her having to rehome her business and start again in a new place, building new clients and contacts. While this might have served a crushing…
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In this episode, Minnie talks to Susan Payton, business storytelling expert and bestselling author of The Business of Stories. In this 40-minute episode, Susan explains her framework for business storytelling. With careful prompting, you will understand that you have hundreds of wonderful stories to tell (even if you don’t know it yet!). We discuss…
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In this episode, Ella Hoyos talks to Eloise Leeson to explore the fascinating field of linguistics. This show is for you if you want people to understand exactly what you mean when you say it. Linguistics is the study of language. It’s all about getting your message across intentionally and clearly so that you can improve your business communicatio…
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Ella and Minnie look back over the last year since launching the Cracking Copy Podcast. And we ask the question… Do you have a podcast in you? We interview each other about our top takeaways from the experience, what we’ve learnt and our thoughts on podcasting as a marketing medium. It’s a candid insight into how we ‘fell into’ the industry, why we…
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Show Notes - Cracking Copy Episode 21 - Magic Messaging Why you need a messaging strategy and how to build one Minnie and Ella are today tackling the HUGE subject of marketing messaging. We look at: Why you need a good messaging strategy and How to go about researching and creating one From our own experiences and knowledge, we give you an overview…
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Minnie talks to CJ from Vibing Social, a Meta ads specialist about what’s working right now on Facebook and Instagram. Tune in if you’re new to ads and are thinking of FB and Instagram ads as part of your marketing strategy. Or, you may already be using them and are after some tips. CJ also discusses how to troubleshoot underperforming ads and what…
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It's an extra juicy show as Ella Hoyos talks to Brittany McBean about pricing for copywriters. We dig into what makes a premium client experience that commands high prices and delivers top kudos, in this hour-long episode. Tune in if you’re a freelance copywriter looking to break out of feast and famine mode, and ready to scale up your business pro…
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In this episode, host Ella Hoyos talks to Nikki Trailor, a seasoned launch copywriter, to uncover the 3 key things you need for a successful live launch. Tune in if you’re a copywriter, course creator or online business owner who wants to optimise your copy and launch strategy for more sales success in 2023. Nikki shares her journey to becoming a s…
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Today we are talking about social media bios.What do we mean by a bio? (biography). Well, we’re talking about the personal information that you see on your social media profiles. You know, that tiny amount of space at the top with a ridiculously low character count where you have to grab attention, get across your value proposition, what you want t…
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With all the buzz about ChatGPT and Artificial Intelligence, we think we would be mad not to cover it! We have been wondering, and perhaps you have too: What is ChatGPT and how is it so blimmin’ clever? Will AI replace us as writers? Should we view AI tools as friends or foes? Are copywriters like Ella and I a goner? How can we leverage this techno…
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Creating single-use, disposable content is a false economy. It's also a high price to pay, zapping up your precious time and energy as a marketer and content creator. If you tend to find content creation, writing and marketing your business exhausting, then this podcast is for you. Ella & Minnie talk about the wonderful alchemy of repurposing conte…
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We do not profess to be LinkedIn ninjas but this deep dive episode is a must-listen for any individual or business owner looking to leverage the power of LinkedIn. In this LinkedIn podcast special, Ella & Minnie discuss why you might bother leveraging LinkedIn Is your audience hanging out there? Are you looking for new work? It’s the best place to …
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This podcast is a must-listen for any writer or business owner looking to leverage the power of Twitter. There is arguably no better social media platform to hone your writing skills. In this episode, Ella & Minnie discuss what Twitter can do for you as a writer, and how you can use the platform to find your tribe, grow your audience, test ideas an…
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This episode is for you if you want to know how to go about finding the best words for your social media post captions AND how to get the best engagement and traction with the dreaded algorithms. Today is Part 1 in a 2-part mini-series on social media writing. This episode looks at writing captions for Instagram and Facebook, specifically organic p…
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Are you often overwhelmed by the need to come up with constant ideas for your online content from social media to blogs, product or service launches and articles etc? Is advance planning something that you never quite have time for? If you could benefit from some guidance on planning your content, ditching the overwhelm and actually start enjoying …
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This episode is for you if you're planning to sell more of your services online. Ella Hoyos speaks with sales coach and business champion, Kathy Walterhouse, founder of the Professional Rule Breaker and the Entrepreneurs Success Summit. Kathy has a great outlook and she loves to help entrepreneurs break the rules, find their authentic voice and jum…
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Writing for the digital age - what has changed? Today’s episode is for you if you are bamboozled by the tens of thousands of messages presented to you on a daily basis. Are you at a loss for how you can cut through the noise to get your products and business to stand out? Today we look at how the way we write and communicate has changed in the last…
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Humans crave stories. As writers we know the power of a good story to draw our readers in. In this episode of Cracking Copy, Ella Hoyos talks to copywriter Charlotte Davies about a story born from her own life experience and what motivated her to tell it. This episode is for you if you really want to know what it’s like to share your story on stage…
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Today’s episode is for you if you either find grammar a complete nightmare or love it and want to be inspired to break the rules for maximum effect. We discuss a few grammar rules that we think are important. We only really scratch the surface of this massive (and often contentious) topic. And you may absolutely disagree with some of our thoughts. …
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Are you an aspiring copywriter? Are you looking to find your authentic brand voice? (The personality packed one that makes people smile ). A great place to start is by cultivating your sense of comedic timing. We joke not! In this episode, Sami Miles shares her wisdom on how to inject more humour into your copywriting. This show is for you if you w…
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