The innovation to implementation gap is 17 years. Podcasts were invented 17 years ago. Coincidence? We don’t think so. That Implementation Science Podcast discusses everything related to Implementation Science, and many things not. Co-hosts Mike Pullmann and Kevin King interview guests, review new research, and implement solutions to things that aren’t even problems yet.
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Psychedelic Assisted Therapy with Leopoldo Cabassa and Dani Adams
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1:14:20We interview Leopoldo Cabassa and Dani Adams about implementation sciences' role in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy. We talk about the evidence for psychedelic assisted therapy, its implementation barriers and facilitators, the role of implementation science in moving psychedelic assited therapy from the clinic to the field, and we'll get them started…
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Sara Landes: Hybrid trials and implementation in very large organizations
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1:09:57We talk with Sara Landes about how she became interested in implementation science, her work in the Department of Veterans Affairs, hybrid trials, and her fond memories of a special rental car company. Then we get Sara started on a rant about hybrid trial reviews. The views expressed by Dr. Landes in this podcast are those of Dr. Landes and do not …
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Byron Powell: Implementation strategies and mechanism diagramming
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50:58We talk with the nicest person in Implementation Science, Byron Powell about how his dream of being a high school social worker and basketball coach was derailed by the irresistible siren song of implementation science, the meaning of interventions and implementation strategies, the utility of mechanism diagramming using approaches like logic model…
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Early Career Researchers Part 2: Noah Triplett, Kaela Farrise, & Margaret Crane
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48:24This is the second of two episodes where Kevin King and I conduct short interviews with several Early Career Researchers at last year’s ABCT conference in Seattle. On this episode, we first interview Noah Triplett, discussing his work in the juvenile justice system on diversion and flexible facilitation and implementation of MH services in Kenya. S…
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Untangling Interventions from Implementation Strategies (or Knot)
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53:52Today, we’ll have a conversation with a collection of some of the greatest minds in implementation science about the operationalization of the two most important constructs in Implementation Science: interventions and implementation strategies. Sounds easy, right? In the 20-odd years that Implementation Science has been around, we’ve figured this o…
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Early Career Researchers: Mallory Dobias and Andrea Ng
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40:45This is the first of two episodes where Kevin King and I conduct short interviews with several Early Career Researchers at last year’s ABCT conference in Seattle. On this episode, we first interview Mallory Dobias, whose work focuses on improve teen access to mental health supports using digital technologies, and empowering young people in interven…
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Stephen Schueller: The State of Digital Mental Health
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1:02:25We talk with Stephen Schueller about digital mental health apps, the challenges and benefits of doing implementation science work in a digital landscape, the implementation factors worthy of consideration when conducting digital mental health research, and chocolate and broccoli but not chocolate covered broccoli. Best of all, Kevin and I get Steph…
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Welcome to Season 2! On today's show, we interview David Chambers, the Deputy Director for Implementation Science in the National Cancer Institute. We’ll talk about the history of implementation science, the false notion of science in a vacuum, the role of creativity in science, what makes a good meeting, how teams are like jam bands, and you’ll ge…
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Season Finale: Bryan Weiner, history of implementation science, implementation science measurement
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1:10:08On this episode we talk with everyone's favorite mentor, Bryan Weiner, about the history of implementation science, implementation science measurement, the Jingle Jangle Fallacy, and we quiz him on how to be a good mentor. Resources discussed during this episode include: Weiner, B. J., Lewis, C. C., Stanick, C., Powell, B. J., Dorsey, C. N., Clary,…
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Kevin King: Etiology of substance use, applying implementation science to methods training, and Star Wars
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56:50On this episode we interview… co-host Kevin King! What?!? Again with the bro talk? Apologies to everyone in our audience but look on the bright side, you can use this time again to catch up on old Webster episodes. If you do listen, we’ll talk about the etiology of substance use and substance use disorders, examining training and education of resea…
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Mike Pullmann: Unintended Consequences, Equity in Education, and Ethics and Obligations of Community Based Research
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52:42On this show co-host Kevin King will interview… Mike! Apologies in advance to anyone who is tired of hearing us talk about our work—honestly your time might be better spent watching old reruns of Webster. We talk about equity in education, the unintended consequences of implementation strategies, the ethics and obligations of conducting community b…
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Digital Therapeutics: A Scoping Review
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1:00:01Digital therapeutics and AI may be the future, but hearing two white dudes drone on about it is very much the now. Listen to Kevin and Mike take their best stab. Papers referenced include: Damschroder, L.J., Reardon, C.M., Widerquist, M.A.O. et al. The updated Consolidated Framework for Implementation Research based on user feedback. Implementation…
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Lisa Saldana: Stages and Costs of Implementation
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1:10:25Lisa Saldana joins the show to talk about the importance of measuring and planning implementation stages and how they can help improve whether the implementation of your program will be sustained; the relative importance of engagement, readiness planning, and how good pre-implementation planning can make programs robust to challenges; the overlap b…
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This episode is a companion episode to our interview with Danny Almirall, and brings a special surprise guest.By Mike Pullmann
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Danny Almirall: SMART designs, MAISY’s, and the Zen of giving it away
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1:02:16Today we talk with Danny Almirall from the University of Michigan's d3C center. We talk about how learning about prime numbers set Danny up for a lifetime of teaching people about math, statistics, and methods, the difference between efficacy, effectiveness, and implementation studies, what is a SMART trial, and how do SMART trials inform adaptive …
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Shannon Dorsey: Implementation in Low Resource and International Settings
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59:13The amazing and generous Shannon Dorsey swings by the podcast to talk about her work on pragmatic and applied implementation science, including implementing in low resource and international settings, how to build trust and working community partnerships, and putting jargon into plain language. Along the way we quiz her about bad national park yelp…
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Pedja Klasnja: Just in Time Adaptive Interventions, Agile Science, and Remote Sensing
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1:04:10Pedja Klasnja swings by the show to discuss his viewpoints as a methodologist on the outskirts of Implementation Science, from the standpoint of Human-Computer Interaction and Health Informatics. At some point in the show Kevin falls in love with Pedja, but we're not sure if Pedja noticed. Referenced in this episode: Kilbourne, A.M., Geng, E., Eshu…
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Jill Locke: Implementation Science, Education, and Autism
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55:16Jill Locke visits the show to talk about her fascinating work at developing and re-designing interventions for Autistic youth in educational settings. She talks about community engagement strategies, human-centered design, leadership considerations, and more. Along the way, she competes in our quiz for a shot at Kevin King writing an out of office …
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Fidelity Measurement: Fast, Cheap, and Good (Pick Two)
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43:03Mike and Kevin discuss the paper "Improving the feasibility of fidelity measurement for community-based quality assurance". Can measuring fidelity be cheap, fast, and good? Referenced in today's episode: Chapman, J. E., Alley, Z. M., & Schoenwald, S. K. (2022). Improving the feasibility of fidelity measurement for community-based quality assurance:…
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Aaron Lyon:(Re)designing Interventions
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1:09:37Aaron Lyon from the University of Washington swings by the show to discuss the integration of User-Centered Design into Implementation Science, beer, developing leadership strategies in educational settings, pre-implementation motivational interventions, and more beer.By Mike Pullmann
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Cara Lewis: Sailing the Seas of Implementation Mechanisms
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1:00:51We talk with Cara Lewis about implementation mechanisms, quiz her about boats, and learn about her fancy new job.By Mike Pullmann
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