Hey there! We're Jack Trama and Max Darwin, and we're on a mission to find some answers. We'll share experiences and insights as we explore different topics together.Get ready for some raw, real, and sometimes amusing conversations between us as we navigate this wild ride and lessons learned.Whether you want to level up or just need a reminder that you're not alone in this journey, we've got you covered.
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Unbelievable? offers a weekly podcast, blog, and video series hosted by Ruth Jackson and a team of thinkers and Christian apologists.
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The London Library Podcast features a leading writer or figure in the cultural world discussing the books which have shaped them. The first guest is social historian, author of bestselling The Five and London Library member Hallie Rubenhold. Founded by Thomas Carlyle in 1841 The London Library is one of the world’s great lending libraries and a place of inspiration and support to writers, readers and scholars of all kinds. Well-known members and former members include: Charles Dickens, Charl ...
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Five Contributors, Five Reviews, Five Minutes Each. Bringing you a monthly dose of rapid-fire board game reviews. Every four Wednesdays our five contributors will talk about a game on their radar that week. Follow us on Facebook (https://facebook.com/FiveByGames), Twitter (https://twitter.com/FiveByGames), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/FiveByGames/), or support us on Patreon (http://Patreon.com/FiveByGames).
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Classic: Is War ever justified? Just War, Darwinism and Christianity | Michael Ruse vs Nigel Biggar.
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1:01:25In 2025, as the world is devastated by continuing wars, many are simultaneously commemorating the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II. Returning to this edition of Unbelievable, recorded as marks of Remembrance took place across the world to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of WW1 in 2018, Justin Brierley discussed just war theory, Dar…
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Do humans have the right to engineer life? Prof. Keith Fox v Dr. Sam McKee
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1:26:01Should we be tampering with the genetic code of life? What are the ethical and theological implications of engineering artificial organisms?This episode of Unbelievable? explores the cutting-edge world of synthetic biology - from designing artificial microbes to help us live on Mars, to the deeper philosophical and ethical questions about humanity …
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Classic: Can Christianity be true if Christians can't agree on doctrine? Andrew Whyte vs Nabeel Qureshi
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1:01:52Less than a year after this classic episode aired, Nabeel Qureshi, author of Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus, one of the most compelling accounts of a Muslim’s journey to Christianity, announced he had stage IV stomach cancer. He passed away in September 2017. In this unforgettable episode, Nabeel brings his characteristic warmth and clarity as he eng…
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Does true freedom exist? Max Jeganathan vs Andrew Copson hosted by Andy Kind
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1:15:28Is our obsession with personal autonomy leading to fulfilment—or fracture? Max Jeganathan (author of The Freedom Trap) and Andrew Copson (CEO of Humanists UK) explore the purpose, power, and pitfalls of freedom. While Max argues that unexamined individualism breeds anxiety, disconnection, and moral confusion, Andrew defends freedom as a means to ha…
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Episode 160: The White Castle: Matcha, The Bird Oracle, Enemy Anemone, Darwin's Journey, Silver & Gold
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29:54Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Aaron - Introduction 00:56 Justin - The White Castle: Matcha 06:20 Sarah - The Bird Oracle 11:55 Jose - Enemy Anemone 17:47 John - Darwin's Journey 23:57 Aaron - Silver & Gold 29:14 Meeple Lady - Outro…
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Classic: Why I changed my mind about Christian history - Tom Holland v Larry Hurtado
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50:40Back in October 2016, renowned historian Tom Holland penned an article for The New Statesman on why he changed his mind about Christianity. Holland is the author of popular books on ancient empires and says his research made him realise how unique Christianity was in its infancy. In this classic show Holland claims that, despite secular arguments t…
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Cancer, War and the God Question: why so much suffering? Prof Richard Norman vs Sara Stevenson hosted by Andy Kind
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1:15:15Why does a good God allow violence and suffering — even in the Bible?In this episode of Premier Unbelievable?, Andy Kind hosts a thought-provoking debate between humanist philosopher Richard Norman and Christian thinker Sara Stevenson. Together, they explore whether divine violence in the Old Testament undermines the credibility of Christianity, an…
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Classic: Memes, archetypes, and the meaning we live by: Jordan Peterson vs Susan Blackmore
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49:29In this classic edition of Unbelievable? - The Big Conversation we ask: do we need God to make sense of life? In a 2018 debate, Jordan Peterson and Susan Blackmore explore the psychology of belief through the lenses of memes and archetypes. Peterson argues that religious structures underpin even secular life, while Blackmore sees religion as a cult…
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Is the Problem of Suffering the strongest argument against God? David Robertson vs Stephen Law hosted by Andy Kind
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1:13:54Can the reality of suffering disprove a good God? Oxford Philosopher Dr. Stephen Law and Christian minister Rev. David Robertson debate the problem of evil, the evil God hypothesis, and whether suffering is evidence for or against theism. Does Christianity provide a meaningful answer, or does the sheer amount of suffering make belief in God irratio…
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Classic: Debating the Scandals of Easter: Jesus' Crucifixion and Resurrection David Instone-Brewer v Bob Price
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59:53Listen to a compelling classic discussion between David Instone-Brewer, a New Testament scholar, and Bob Price, a professor of biblical criticism. This Unbelievable focuses on the scandals surrounding Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, as argued in David's book, 'The Jesus Scandals.' David posits these events based on their embarrassing nature fo…
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The Resurrection Debate: Did Jesus Die and Rise Again? David Instone-Brewer vs Ijaz Ahmed, hosted by Andy Kind
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1:19:12As Easter approaches, we explore the significance of Jesus’ death and resurrection in Christianity and Islam. Bible scholar Rev Dr David Instone-Brewer joins Islamic apologist Ijaz Ahmed for a thought-provoking debate on the crucifixion, resurrection, and the divinity of Jesus. Is the resurrection a historical fact or a later theological idea?📚 Dav…
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Why I Changed My Mind on Christian Sexual Ethics? Rev Dr Christopher Landau vs Rev Charlie Bell hosted by Andy Kind
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1:16:34This week on Premier Unbelievable?, Andy Kind hosts a bold and honest conversation about sex, sexuality, and discipleship in the Church.Joining him are Rev Dr Christopher Landau, author of Compassionate Orthodoxy and Sexuality, who defends the Church’s traditional teaching with pastoral conviction—and Rev Dr Charlie Bell, author of Queer Holiness, …
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Episode 159: Jubako, The Elder Scrolls: Betrayal of the Second Era, The Castles of Burgundy, Before the Guests Arrive, Creepshow: The Suspense-Building Game
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28:36Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 John - Introduction 00:43 Aaron - Jubako 06:17 Justin - The Elder Scrolls: Betrayal of the Second Era 11:32 Sarah - The Castles of Burgundy (Chateauma PNP) 16:59 Meeple Lady - Before the Guests Arrive 22:13 John - Creepshow: The Suspense-Build…
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Classic: Intelligent Design on Trial – 15 Years After Kitzmiller-Dover - Mike Behe v Joshua Swamidass
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1:05:57As we prepare a fresh episode exploring the legacy of Intelligent Design, we’re diving back into the archives to revisit this compelling 2020 conversation between biochemist Michael Behe and biologist Joshua Swamidass.In 2005, the high-profile Kitzmiller v. Dover trial challenged the Dover School District’s attempt to introduce Intelligent Design (…
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Culture Wars: Have Christians Lost the Plot? with Ben Chang and Jonty Langley
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1:15:09Are we stuck in an endless culture war? Has politics overshadowed Jesus in the Church? In this episode of Unbelievable?, host Andy Kind talks with Ben Chang and Jonty Langley about cancel culture, identity politics, and the Church’s role in these debates. Is cancel culture accountability or censorship? How should Christians engage with social justi…
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Classic: Faith & Doubt: A Former Atheist and Ex-Christian Face Off
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1:04:25Can belief and unbelief follow the same path? In this Unbelievable? episode, Justin Brierley hosts a fascinating conversation from 2014 between Guillaume Bignon, an atheist-turned-Christian theologian, and Wade Padgett, a former devout Christian who became an atheist.🔍 What’s Inside? 🔥 Guillaume’s journey from atheism to Christianity—an unexpected …
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Should We Help People Live - Not Die? Assisted Dying and the Terminally Ill Adults Bill | Dr Susan Marriott & Prof Keith Brown
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1:06:36How close are we to legalising assisted suicide in the UK? Should dying be offered as a course of treatment by NHS doctors?The Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill is one of the most contentious pieces of legislation currently before Parliament. It seeks to amend the Suicide Act of 1961 so that 'encouraging or assisting suicide' would no longer…
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Classic: Is the Mormon Gospel Biblical? Ex-Mormon vs. Active Mormon Debate
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1:00:08🔥 Mormonism vs. Biblical Christianity - Where Do They Stand? 🔥In this classic Unbelievable? episode from 2014, Justin Brierley moderates a thought-provoking debate between Lynn Wilder, a former temple-recommend-holding Mormon turned Christian, and Michael Flournoy, a lifelong active Mormon.Lynn shares her journey out of Mormonism, triggered by her …
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Is there good evidence to believe in God? Ed Atkinson vs Sara Stevenson hosted by Andy Kind
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59:17Premier Unbelievable? Podcast is back in Aylesbury, UK at Sir Henry Floyd Grammar School with host Andy Kind moderating a debate on the existence of God, featuring Sara Stevenson from OCCA The Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics and atheist Ed Atkinson, engineer and former Christian turned Agnostic, and host of the Doubts Aloud podcast. Today's…
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Classic: Faith vs. doubt - a clash of worldviews Os Guinness and Ed Atkinson
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1:00:26Can faith withstand scrutiny? Can doubt lead to truth? In this classic Unbelievable? episode from 2014, Justin Brierley hosts a gripping dialogue between Os Guinness, renowned author and social critic, and Ed Atkinson, a former Christian turned atheist. And listen out as Ed joins the show again in a few weeks. 🔍 What’s Inside? 🔥 Os defends the rati…
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Does science point toward or away from God? Phil Halper vs Professor Paul Ewart (Oxford Physics) hosted by Sam McKee
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52:17Today's episode will seek to answer the age-old question: Does science bring us closer to understanding a divine creator, or does it steer us away from such a belief? Sam McKee, researcher and associate tutor in history and philosophy of science at Manchester Metropolitan University guest hosts and he is joined by two distinguished guests. Paul Ewa…
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Episode 158: Mountain Goats, Xylotar, Lok, Castle Combo, Bottle Imp
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27:16Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Jose - Introduction 00:50 John - Mountain Goats 05:39 Justin - Xylotar 11:04 Sarah - Lok 16:19 Meeple Lady - Castle Combo 21:04 Jose - Bottle Imp 26:34 Aaron - OutroBy The Five By
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Classic: Is there historical evidence for the bodily resurrection of Jesus? Justin Bass & Dale Allison
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1:19:54New Testament scholars Dale Allison and Justin Bass discuss their different approaches to the evidence for Jesus' resurrection in a show first aired in 2021. Bass, author of 'The Bedrock of Christianity: The unalterable facts of Jesus' death and resurrection' says the evidence from the core historical facts points to a resurrection. Allison, author…
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Islamic blasphemy law in Britain? Andy Bannister and Tim Dieppe hosted by Andy Kind
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1:12:08As the UK government announced the launch of a new Islamophobia council to define ‘anti-Muslim hatred/ Islamophobia’ on February 28th, the start of Ramadan, one thing is clear: This is a hot-button issue that raises serious questions about free speech, blasphemy laws, and the balance between protecting religious sensibilities and upholding open dia…
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Classic: Why I believe with Professor John C. Lennox
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1:26:17This week, we revisit a conversation with Dr. John Lennox, Emeritus Professor of Mathematics and renowned Christian apologist. Lennox shares his journey from growing up in Ireland to studying at Cambridge and defending his faith globally, from Russia to East Germany. He also reflects on his debates with leading atheists like Richard Dawkins, Peter …
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Is God’s hiddenness proof he isn’t there? Live Debate Theist Dr Max Baker-Hytch vs Atheist Dr Julian Baggini
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1:00:29If God exists, why isn’t His existence obvious to everyone? In today’s Unbelievable? debate, public philosopher Julian Baggini and Oxford University’s Dr. Max Baker-Hytch go head-to-head on the problem of divine hiddenness. Is God’s absence a test of faith, or is it evidence that He doesn’t exist? Can history, reason, and personal experience point …
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Faith vs. Science: does DNA editing challenge God’s plan/existence? Nick Spencer vs Sam McKee
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1:09:25In this gripping episode of Unbelievable? we're diving into one of the most controversial and thought-provoking debates of our time: the future of human evolution. 🧬 🚀 Will Genetic Engineering Reshape Humanity? Will AI Make Us Gods? 🌍 Can Faith Keep Up? 🤖With the power of AI and genetic modification at our fingertips, are we playing God— or simply …
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Episode 157: Murray the A**hole Frog, The Fellowship of the Ring: Trick-Taking Game, ARTBOX, Rebel Princess, A Gentle Rain
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26:40Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Meeple Lady - Introduction 00:43 Jose - Murray the A**hole Frog 06:18 John - The Fellowship of the Ring: Trick Taking Game 11:02 Aaron - ARTBOX 16:35 Justin - Rebel Princess 21:38 Meeple Lady - A Gentle Rain 26:02 Ruel - Outro…
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Does Suffering disprove God? Simon Edwards v Harry Amos
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1:08:09Can belief in a loving God withstand the reality of suffering? In this special live debate hosted in front of a live student audience in partnership with Youth For Christ in Aylesbury, Unbelievable? brings together two compelling voices to tackle one of the most profound questions in philosophy and theology: does suffering debunk the existence of a…
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Is the universe fine-tuned for life? Luke Barnes vs Martin Bauer with Philip Goff [recorded on location at Durham Uni]
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1:22:12Is the universe fine-tuned for life? And does physics point to God? Tune in to the Unbelievable? Podcast for our debate this week which was filmed in front of a live audience at the University of Durham, with Prof. Philip Goff moderating. We have two excellent physicists in the hot seats. Dr Luke Barnes is a senior lecturer at Western Sydney Univer…
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Is the Universe 5 minutes old? Did the universe begin with a cause? Dan Linford vs David Lu Debate the Kalām Cosmological Argument
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1:20:53How do we know the age of the Universe, really? Today's guest suggests atheists should believe our world is actually 5 minutes old… no, seriously!!In this episode, Vince Vitale hosts a fascinating discussion with David Lu and Dan Linford to explore a groundbreaking theory and its philosophical and scientific implications on the Big Bang, the existe…
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Does God Exist? The Ontological Argument Debate 🤔✨ Dr Gavin Ortlund vs AOC favourite agnostic Joe Schmid
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1:16:14In this thought-provoking episode of Premier Unbelievable, host Vince Vitale is joined by two brilliant minds to unpack the ontological argument for the existence of God: ✨ Dr. Gavin Ortlund – President of Truth Unites, theologian, author, and YouTuber and 🎓 Joe Schmid – Philosophy PhD student at Princeton, metaphysics expert, creator of Majesty of…
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Episode 156: Murdle, Cat Blues: The Big Gig, Combo aka Surfosaurus MAX, Shackleton Base: A Journey To The Moon, Ticket to Ride Legacy: Legends of the West
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26:43Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Sarah - Introduction 00:38 Meeple Lady - Murdle 05:19 Jose - Cat Blues: The Big Gig 09:54 Aaron - Combo aka Surfosaurus MAX 15:12 Justin - Shackleton Base: A Journey To The Moon 20:26 Sarah - Ticket to Ride Legacy: Legends of the West 25:58 Jo…
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Does Christianity need to recover its confidence? with Rupert Shortt and Nick Spencer
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1:07:46Towards the end of this discussion, Roger Bolton's guests acknowledge a profound hunger for Christianity. So, how did we get here? How can Christianity recover its confidence? Have Christian leaders, in their pursuit of relevance, lost sight of the true distinctiveness of what it means to be a follower of Jesus Christ?Host Roger Bolton dives deep i…
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Islam vs Christianity: Do We Worship the Same God? with Dr. Andy Bannister & Abdullah Al Andalusi
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1:45:13Andy Bannister and Abdullah Al AndalusiIn a world filled with questions about faith, truth, and the future, can Islam and Christianity find common ground, or do their beliefs reveal irreconcilable differences? Dr. Andy Bannister, a Christian apologist and author, and Abdullah Al Andalusi, an Islamic thinker and activist, go head to head in this wee…
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Science vs Faith: Can We Find Truth and Trust in a Divided World? with Dr. Francis Collins & Phil Halper
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1:14:21In a world splintered by distrust across science, faith, and politics, is it possible to find common ground on the sources of true wisdom? Dr. Francis Collins, a world-renowned geneticist and Christian, believes we must, and his new book, The Road to Wisdom: On Truth, Science, Faith, and Trust, aims to rekindle these values. Collins argues that a f…
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PART 2 of What’s the Point of Existence? God, Atheism, and the Meaning of Life 🌍
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43:02Join an electrifying debate exploring life's ultimate questions: What’s the purpose of existence? How do God and atheism shape our understanding of the cosmos, consciousness, and meaning?Recorded at the prestigious Royal Institution in London, this thought-provoking discussion features:Alex O’Connor @Cosmic Skeptic – Atheist YouTuber, host of @with…
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Episode 155: The Lord of the Rings: Duel for Middle-earth, Blind Business, Sand, Beacon Patrol, Wilmot's Warehouse
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27:34Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Justin - Introduction 00:53 Ruel - The Lord of the Rings: Duel for Middle-earth 06:23 John - Blind Business 11:18 Justin - Sand 16:13 Sarah - Beacon Patrol 21.34 Meeple Lady - Wilmot's Warehouse 26:49 Jose - Outro…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Premillennial vs Amillennial debate on Christ's return - Daniel Goepfrich & Chris Date
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1:09:24Debate has raged over the timeline of Christ's return. Daniel Goepfrich holds to 'premillennialism' - that Christ will return before a 1000 year reign of peace, Chris Date holds to 'amillennialism' - that there will be no literal 1000 year reign.For Chris Date https://rethinkinghell.com/For Daniel Goepfrich https://www.theologyisforeveryone.com/Ori…
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PART 1 of What’s the Point of Existence? God, Atheism, and the Meaning of Life 🌍
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46:54Join an electrifying debate exploring life's ultimate questions: What’s the purpose of existence? How do God and atheism shape our understanding of the cosmos, consciousness, and meaning?Recorded at the prestigious Royal Institution in London, this thought-provoking discussion features:Alex O’Connor @Cosmic Skeptic – Atheist YouTuber, host of @with…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Debating the apologetics of CS Lewis
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1:01:42CS Lewis scholar Michael Ward and atheist activist Dan Barker debate whether Lewis' Christian apologetics were convincing or not. Michael Ward currently has a new book out on Lewis: After Humanity: A Guide to C.S. Lewis’s The Abolition of Man. Originally aired: 2010• Get our 'Confident Christianity' course: http://www.premier.org.uk/courseierchrist…
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God vs Science Debate with Peter Atkins and Keith Fox
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1:17:22Ruth Jackson returned to school to host this lively debate between Peter Atkins, renowned atheist and scientist, and Keith Fox, Christian biologist and theologian. In front of a live young audience, they explore one of the most profound questions: Is religion, just wishful thinking? Atkins and Fox tackle the big questions at the intersection of sci…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Kristin Kobes Du Mez on masculinity, Mark Driscoll and the future for US evangelicals
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1:01:23Kristin Kobes Du Mez is the author of the bestselling book ‘Jesus and John Wayne: How white evangelicals corrupted a faith and fractured a nation’.She chats live with Justin about the recent ‘Rise and Fall of Mars Hill’ podcast, the support Donald Trump received among white evangelicals, the concept of masculinity and the future of Christianity in …
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Catholic vs Protestant debate - “Should Christians pray to Mary?” Trent Horn v Leonardo De Chirico hosted by Andy Kind
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1:09:35What divides Catholics and Protestants theologically? How does the role of Mary and the authority of scripture shape the faith journeys of believers in these traditions?Premier Unbelievable?, host Andy Kind moderates a compelling dialogue between Dr. Leonardo De Chirico and Trent Horn, examining the key theological distinctions and shared values be…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Are Star Wars and superhero movies a gateway to the Gospel? Frank Turek vs Paulogia
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1:23:21Frank Turek’s book ‘Hollywood Heroes’ argue that the fictional stories of Harry Potter, Star Wars and the Marvel movies all point to the the true story of Jesus, the ultimate hero. Paul Ens, a comic book and Star Wars fan who runs the counter-apologetics channel Paulogia, responds. For Frank Turek: https://hollywoodheroesbook.com/For Paulogia: http…
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Should We Have the Right to Die? The Assisted Dying Debate in the UK Neil McKain vs Prof Keith Brown
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1:16:52As the UK prepares for a crucial parliamentary debate on the Assisted Dying Bill, the Unbelievable? podcast delves into this emotionally charged issue. Unlike in countries such as the USA, Canada, and the Netherlands, assisted dying remains illegal in the UK—but that could soon change. Labour MP Kim Leadbeater's Private Member's Bill has reignited …
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Episode 154: Harrow County: The Game of Gothic Conflict, MicroMacro: Crime City, Chu Han, Monkey Palace, Undergrove
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27:41Hello friends and welcome to The Five By! Your quatriweekly source of rapid-fire board game reviews. 00:00 Aaron - Introduction 01:04 Justin - Harrow County: The Game of Gothic Conflict 06:39 Meeple Lady - MicroMacro: Crime City 11:08 Jose - Chu Han 16:19 John - Monkey Palace 21.19 Aaron - Undergrove 27:08 Ruel - Outro…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Richard Dawkins & Rowan Williams dialogue
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1:28:29In February 2012 Sofia Europa sponsored a discussion between Richard Dawkins and Rowan Williams, the then-Archbishop of Canterbury, on the question of Human Nature and Our Ultimate Origins. The discussion was chaired by agnostic Prof Sir Anthony Kenny. It is broadcast here in full.For the full discussion watch on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/wat…
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The Divine Debate: Is Morality Rooted in God? Atheist Stephen Law vs Matthew Su hosted by Ruth Jackson
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45:59🌟 Is faith necessary for a moral life? 🌟Is belief in God essential for a meaningful moral framework? Or can secular philosophy give us all the answers? 🤔 This week on Unbelievable?, host Ruth Jackson 🎙️ welcomes two dynamic thinkers to explore one of the most profound debates: the role of God in shaping our moral universe. 🌌✨ Recorded live at Wadde…
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Unbelievable? Classic: Peter Kreeft's argument from desire
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1:02:16CS Lewis said "If I find in myself desires which nothing in this world can satisfy, the only logical explanation is that I was made for another world."Peter Kreeft is a philosophy professor and well known Christian thinker and writer. He defends the "argument from desire". Does our experience of transcendent longing indicate that there is a God to …
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