Best Matt And Charley Podcasts (2025)

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234. 3 Ways to Control Profit and STOP Confusing Your Finances - Spencer Sheinin 52:46

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP234 Access Spencer's free benchmarking tool here: Confused by your financials? You’re not alone. Most contractors struggle to make sense of their numbers, and it costs them big. In this episode of Contractor Evolution, we sit down with Spencer Sheinin, bestselling author of …

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The Best of GPA at Freelance Wrestling 1:57:08

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We spent two hours with GPA catching up and watching some of his best matches on IWTV. Geoff watches with us and gives hidden nuggets and live commentary. This is a really fun episode for fans of Freelance, GPA and just wrestling in general.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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233. No More Excuses: Stay Consistent When Goals Go Sideways - Mandy Gill 51:25

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP233 Ever had a project go sideways, a client bail, or cash flow dry up? This episode of Contractor Evolution is your playbook for bouncing back when business gets messy. Today, Reset With Resilience author Mandy Gill, broadcaster, ultra-endurance athlete, and creator of the …

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232. 4 Matt Risinger Moments That Will Transform Your Contracting Business - Danny Kerr and Matt Risinger 10:08

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP232 Today we are bringing back the best moments with our friend Matt Risinger This man is a true industry goliath: host of The BUILD Show, founder of Risinger Build, and one of the most trusted names in the industry. He’s been on our show four times and has shared some truly…

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231. STOP Losing Money to Poor PM: No-Frills Project Management Tips (Contractor Roundtable) - Danny Kerr, Charley Burtwistle, Dylan Ochala, Toby Wessel, Bradley Powers 1:35:27

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Grab your project management resource bundle and start implementing these tips today: https://trybta.com/DL231 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP231 Poor project management leads to massive financial losses in the construction industry (up to $40 BILLION each year), but this can be avoided with effective com…

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Our First Interview with Chico Re-released 1:05:39

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This is our first every episode with Chico Suave, it's been a handful of years since we first published this episode and now it's back for all the nostalgia feels. Cris and Charley record a new opening and then we jump right into the madness with young Chico before his breakthrough matches at Freelance Wrestling.…

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230. How to Fire an Employee Without the Drama - Danny Kerr 8:00

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For help navigating critical conversations, download our free guide here: https://trybta.com/DL230 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP230 If you thought hiring was hard… …wait until you have to fire someone. It is not fun. Unfortunately, it’s also part of owning a business. Your job is to lead your team towar…

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229. Why Most Contractor Marketing Fails (And How To Fix It) - Ryan Chute 59:37

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP229 Have you ever felt like you’ve hit a wall when it comes to marketing? You’re not alone. You can’t get someone to impulse buy a new deck, air conditioner, or new roof. Instead, you have to sell trust, reliability, and a rock-solid reputation. So why are most contractor an…

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228. 4 Essential Business Systems Every Contractor Should Master - Tony Fraser-Jones 59:30

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To download tools that will help you implement these four systems, click here: https://trybta.com/DL228 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP228 What do New Zealand electricians and North American roofers have in common? More than you’d think—especially when it comes to the biggest problems in the trades: findi…

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Catch up Interview with Laynie Luck! 48:59

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It's been two years since we talked to Laynie Luck! It was time to change that. We catchup with Laynie and her career including her time wrestling in St. Louis, for ROH, for TNA, and her seductive Onlyfans content. She's the best and we wish her all the success.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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227. This $10MM Accountability System Has Crews CRUSHING Their Goals - Danny Kerr 1:09:31

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Grab your free accountability resource bundle here: https://trybta.com/DL227 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP227 Finger pointing, shoulder shrugging, pouting… If accountability conversations with your team feel like putting a toddler in time out, you’re not alone. The thing is, people (of all ages) need st…

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226. Why Most Entrepreneurs Stay Broke - Garrett Gunderson 57:33

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP226 Take Garrett's Money Persona Quiz here: https://garrettgunderson.com/quiz/ Are you building wealth, or just building a business? Because for a lot of entrepreneurs, those aren’t the same thing. Our guest today is Garrett Gunderson. He’s built and sold an Inc. 500 financi…

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Interview with Rabbi Fine from 2econd Wrestling (Second Wrestling) 54:28

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Rabbi Fine is such a cool dude, we are so grateful to have the pleasure to talk with him about 2econd wrestling's show on 7/31! In this episode we discuss his wrestling philosophies, his love for Sean Logan and Blair Onyx and so much more! Tickets found at this link: https://linktr.ee/2econdwrestling…

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225. From Reactive to Streamlined: Cory's Business Automation Journey - Cory Byron 52:28

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Get a copy of Cory's Client Guide here: https://trybta.com/DL225 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP225 If you’re a business owner stuck in the day-to-day whirlwind and wondering how to reclaim your time—today’s episode is your blueprint. We’re joined by C…

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224. How To Lead WITHOUT Ego - Keith Mercurio 1:34:38

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP224 As entrepreneurs, we’re constantly learning how to lead others. How to manage people, set direction for our business, and implement systems with our team. But how often do we take the time to learn how to lead ourselves? Today, we're talking to special guest Keith Mercur…

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Catching Up With Special Guests, Justin & Hank 312 57:08

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In our final year, we wanted to get some of our friends on to catch up with wrestling and life. Please enjoy Justin's debut and the always entertaining, Hank 312.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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223. How to Pick the Right Software For Your Contracting Business - James Benham 43:03

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Grab a copy of our free tech stack audit tool here: https://trybta.com/DL223 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP223 Ever had to shop for a software solution? It sucks. There’s so much out there and they all say they’re the best. That’s why today we're talking to James Benham. James is the CEO and co-founder o…

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Our First Interview with Matt Knicks , Re-Released 1:24:26

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We've re-released our initial conversation with Matt Knicks! This podcast originally took place sometime in the year 2017. It a great nostalgic feel episode, with references to starts who hadn't broke out on the indie scene just quite yet. Please enjoy, episodes like help us remember why we became a podcast in the first place.…

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222. Is ADHD a Superpower? - Peter Shankman 39:39

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP222 In ten years of working with contractors, we've noticed that a LOT of entrepreneurs have ADHD or other forms of neurodiversity. It’s both our biggest strength, and our biggest weakness. And the data backs this up. Studies show as much as 10% of adults have an ADHD diagno…

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221. What to Say to An Underperforming Employee - Jen Long 54:08

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Get your free accountability resources from Jen here: https://trybta.com/DL221 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP221 Is there someone on your team who is not performing the way you need them to? Someone you know you need to do a better job of holding accountable? Someone you need to have “the talk” with? If …

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Would You Rather? - Pro Wrestling Edition 56:39

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Jeremy, Cris an Charley discuss interesting scenarios and decide their favorite outcome, scenarios likely generatd by ChatGPT but who's counting right? This is for all wrestling fans including those who have watched a lot of WWE and WCW.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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Watch Freelance Wrestling with Jeremy Zaucha 35:12

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Our friend from Pro Wrestling Tee's is back! This time we are going to watch Chico Suave vs Sabin Gauge at Freelance's Tope Suicida show in 2025. The rematch happens on 6/27 at the Logan Square Auditorium. Go to Freelance's website for tickets!By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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220. How to Build a Hiring Funnel - Brandon Vaughn 55:51

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP220 Those of you who know us know that we're huge advocates for putting as much effort into your hiring funnel as you do to your sales funnel. And that’s exactly why I’m excited for this week’s episode. Brandon Vaughn is a long-time entrepreneur, business coach and CEO of Hi…

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219. Tariff-Proof Your Business: A Construction Lawyer's Playbook - Trent Cotney 36:39

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Download Trent's Price Acceleration Provision and tariff-proof your contracts today: https://trybta.com/DL219 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP219 While the details have shifted over the past few months, there’s no doubt that all the talk about tariffs has caused uncertainty for the small business community…

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218. $10MM Contractor Roadmap: Operator to Strategist - Danny Kerr 51:30

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Grab a copy of your resource bundle: https://trybta.com/DL218 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP218 Growth can be intimidating. More revenue, more staff and more work = more headaches. Plus, there’s no way to predict what new problems you’ll face as you grow. Except…there actually is. See, when you coach ove…

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217. Should You Niche Down or Expand Out? - Ryan Lee 41:17

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP217 You’ve heard it before: the riches are in the niches. But, is that really always true? Today, I’m talking to Ryan Lee, founder of Landscape Lighting Secrets and host of the Landscape Lighting Secrets podcast. Before selling in 2019, Ryan grew his business to $200K a mont…

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Wrestling Buffet Line Interview - Regan Lydale 52:40

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Regan Lydale steps into the wrestling buffet line to talk about her career thus far, her ambitions, her in-ring character and her love for groovy music and horror.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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216. Sell More by Putting the Customer First - Joe Crisara 57:09

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP216 To the outside world, the word “sales” has gotten a bad rap. People think it’s all transactional. All about pushing something on the customer in order to get what’s best for the sales rep or the company. And that can make the act of selling feel uncomfortable, awkward an…

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215. Leadership Beyond the Hammer - Brian Gottlieb 46:01

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Grab a free chapter of Beyond the Hammer here: https://trybta.com/DL215 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP215 Being a strong leader is an essential business skill. We all know this. If you listen to this podcast, you probably know most of the fundamentals already. And yet so few of us actually take the time …

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2025 Buffet Bracket Champion Sean Logan 1:05:09

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Cris and Charley interview the 2025 Buffet Bracket champion Sean Logan! Sean talks to us about his love and dedication to his craft, his time spent with AAW and we tour his own gym/workout facility that he owns himself! Sean’s a great dude and we’re happy to help share his stories.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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214. Head of Storybrand Talks Contractor Messaging That Sells - Dr. J.J. Peterson 1:06:44

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Download Dr. J.J.'s one-liner template here: https://trybta.com/DL214 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP214 Today we're interviewing the one and only Dr. J.J. Peterson, Head of Storybrand and co-author of Marketing Made Simple, which sold over a million copies worldwide. Dr. J.J. has helped thousands of busi…

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213. A New Era: Benji Reflects on Content Marketing and More - Benji Carlson 59:41

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP213 Today’s the day. The last official day of Benji's time on Contractor Evolution. And the first official day of a new era. In today’s episode, we're pumped to introduce Danny Kerr as your new host. Danny is one of the co-founders of Breakthrough Academy. In fact, he’s the …

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5 Takeaways - NonStop Momentum Freelance Wrestling 36:00

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Listen to Cris and Charley's 5 Takeaways from Freelance's NonStop Momentum- Race for the next Red Star Medallion- Eye Candy Elliot makes things interesting???- Give Sabin What He Wants! - Blair Onyx Gets Creepier- New Freelance World ChampionBy Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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212. How to Manage Budgets, Forecasting and Cash Flow Like Matt Risinger - Matt Risinger 1:15:27

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP212 Grab your free financial management resource bundle here: https://trybta.com/DL212 A few weeks ago, Danny cohosted a web class with Matt Risinger (Host of The BUILD Show) on one of the most important topics in business: finances. On top of teaching the hundreds of attend…

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211. Surrounded By Idiots - Thomas Erikson's Tips For Contractors - Thomas Erikson 56:46

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP211 Chances are, you’re familiar with at least one personality test. Myers Briggs, Enneagram, Personal Style Indicator (PSI) or, the focus of this episode, DISC profiles. Are these tools actually helpful? In my opinion, they have a time and place. But the truth is they’re ki…

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210. Understanding the Skill/Will Matrix - Danny Kerr 13:29

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP210 To grab a copy of the Skill/Will Matrix, DORAGI framework, and Conflict Resolution Guide, click here: https://trybta.com/DL210 In contracting, your people are your business. They determine how customers experience your brand, the productivity of your job sites, the profi…

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209. A Six Part System For Systemizing Your Contracting Business - Ian Ouwerkerk 1:17:46

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP209 Our guest on the show today is our very own coach, Ian Ouwerkerk. Ian coaches the highest number of businesses here at Breakthrough Academy. He has a massive sample size and a unique perspective on what works and what doesn't when it comes to growing your construction or…

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208. How to Attract Reliable Staff in a Labor Shortage - Danny Kerr 1:21:22

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Grab your FREE hiring resource bundle here: https://trybta.com/DL208 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP208 In 2025, there is one issue contractors talk to me about more than any other: Hiring. Getting good people to agree to—and show up to—an interview suddenly seems impossible. You book five interviews and …

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Re-releasing Our Interview with Isaias Velazquez 1:00:50

5M ago1:00:50

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One of our favorite interviews is being re-released with a new opening from us! You truly get to understand who Isaias is in this interview. Please enjoy and share with a friend.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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207. How to Systemize Your Contracting Business - David Jenyns 58:42

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP207 To learn more about David, check out https://www.systemology.com/ If you know me, you know I strongly believe that business systems = owner freedom. That’s why it made sense to get today’s guest David Jenyns on the show. David is the author of SYSTEMology: Create Time, R…

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206. Evolution Rewind: Strategic Planning To Pull You Out Of The Daily Grind - Danny Kerr, Igor Trninic & James Dale 59:57

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP206 Grab your free strategic planning template here: https://trybta.com/DL206 You may be thinking: Is this an episode of Contractor Evolution… …on a FRIDAY? Yup. After over 200 episodes, we thought it was time to introduce a new face—our co-founder and visionary Danny Kerr. …

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205. The Alter Ego Effect: Perform Better Any Time, Anywhere - Todd Herman 53:10

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP205 To learn more about Todd, check out https://toddherman.me/ Whether we realize it or not, we all play characters in our lives. The idea that we should unashamedly show up as the “best” version of ourselves in all settings sounds good, but in reality, it is a gross oversim…

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Analyzing Our Final Buffet Bracket 38:36

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Cris and Charley break down the final #BuffetBracket and reminisce on older buffet brackets of the past. Make sure to follow us on Instagram to vote and have your say.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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204. Open Book Management: The Employee Perspective - Ryan Markewich, Jacob Markewich, Rik Van Espen & Zac Neufield 47:31

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP204 Openness and transparency are values MANY of us espouse. But how open and honest are you really? Does your crew understand budget hours vs. actual hours? How about the projected gross profit on the project they just started? How about last year's net profit? In today’s e…

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Wrestling Buffet Line with Quintero 52:10

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Rafael Quintero steps into the wrestling buffet line with Cris and Charley. If you don't know much about Quintero, here is your opportunity. He also comments on the botched Lucha Launch at Ego Pro wrestling.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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203. Can Contractors Work With Offshore Talent? - Rob Levin 53:22

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To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP203 Learn more about WorkBetterNow here: https://www.workbetternow.com/ Are you using Virtual Assistants and other forms of offshore talent yet? Because you probably should be. Many of the roles in your business can’t be done remotely, sure. But could your office manager eff…

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202. How Much Should Contractors Charge? - Ellen Rohr 1:01:26

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Grab a copy of Ellen's pricing tool here: https://trybta.com/DL202 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP202 Today, we’re welcoming industry legend Ellen Rohr to the show. We couldn’t be more excited. She’s built and sold two companies. Written a slew of unbelievably helpful books including Where Did the Money G…

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Ego Pro's Return to Olympia - Show Preview 56:12

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We sit down with Robert Ego Anthony to talk about the Ego Pro show on March 8th! Plus updates on Podding with Ego.By Wrestling podcast by: Charley Vail & Cris Romero

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201 - Be Coachable: Advice For New Breakthrough Academy Members 35:53

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Get your free guide to being COACHABLE here: https://trybta.com/DL201 To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP201 Today’s episode has a very specific purpose. We’ve gathered four of our world-class business coaches to give advice to contractors who are just beginning to systemize their business with Breakthrough A…

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Re-Releasing Our Interview with Darin Corbin 1:19:50

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We've re-released our interview from a few years back with Darin Corbin. This timeless interview goes into some of Corbin's best moments at Freelance Wrestling and touches on his career longevity. To support this podcast please click play, share with a friend and rate us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.…