Fractals of Change is a leadership and transformation podcast about the repeating human and organizational patterns that shape how we grow. Hosted by transformation executive, advisor, and coach Mary Schaub, the show blends psychology, systems thinking, organizational behavior, and lived executive experience to illuminate how change actually happens—within individuals, teams, and entire enterprises. Through solo episodes and conversations with thinkers, researchers, executives, and creators, ...
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Start living more sustainably. The Good Dirt podcast explores all aspects of a sustainable lifestyle with healthy soil as the touchpoint and metaphor for the healing of our relationship with the planet. Mother and daughter team Mary & Emma bring you weekly interviews with farmers, artists, authors, and leaders in the regenerative and sustainable living space.
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A Conversation with Janna Hockenjos of Earth Friends —and an Announcement!
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1:13:47In this episode of The Good Dirt Podcast, Emma and Mary welcome back Janna Hockenjos, founder of We Are Earth Friends, an environmental education organization designed for children ages 3-8. Jana discusses the program’s impact on young learners' understanding of the interconnectedness of all of life on our planet and provides an update on the progr…
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Encore: Creating a Backyard Microfarm with Leah Webb, Author of "The 7 Step Homestead"
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1:04:13This episode was originally published on August 18th, 2023 In this episode we're talking to Leah Webb, author of The Seven Step Homestead about how to turn any yard into a primary food source with vegetables, fruits, chickens, pollinator plants and medicinal herbs. A mother of two children with unique medical needs, Leah utilizes food grown in her …
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Embracing Our Medicine: A Conversation with Two Spirit Sister Madison Murphy Barney
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54:42In this episode, Madison Murphy Barney, a two-Spirit Hoopa and Shoshone sister, author, doula, and public health storyteller, discusses the significance of the two-Spirit identity, historical roles, and the importance of maintaining cultural traditions. Madison delves into personal experiences growing up in North Dakota, the impact of indigenous bo…
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Our Fermented Lives: Bridging the Gap Between Modern People and Historic Food with Julia Skinner of Root Kitchens
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58:23This is an ENCORE EPISODE, originally published on August 5, 2022 In this episode, Mary and Emma are talking to Julia Skinner of Root: Historic Food for the Modern World. Root was born from Julia's deep love for community and a belief in the power of food to tell stories, connect us to place and to each other, and to build a bridge to the past. Jul…
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The Year of the Dress: Growing and Crafting Linen from Scratch with Eve Schaub
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51:45In this episode, Mary is talking with Eve Schaub, an internationally published author and humorist. Known for her year-long experiments, such as 'Year of No Sugar' and 'Year of No Clutter,' Eve’s latest endeavor is 'The Year of the Dress,' where she attempts to grow, harvest, spin, and weave flax into a wearable linen dress in her backyard. The con…
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Seeking Real Solutions to Plastic Pollution with Smruti Aravind of The Story of Stuff
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1:03:53This is an ENCORE EPISODE, originally published on July 7, 2023 In this episode, Emma and Mary sit down to talk to Smruti Aravind, who oversees fundraising, donor communications, and grants at the Story of Stuff Project. Smruti brings over a decade of experience in the nonprofit sector, with an emphasis on digital storytelling and network-building …
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Exploring Ancestral Diets: A Conversation with Dr. Bill Schindler, Author of Eat Like a Human
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1:32:14In this episode, Dr. Bill Schindler discusses the impact of modern diets on health and the importance of ancestral dietary practices. He shares the journey of the Modern Stone Age Kitchen, a restaurant dedicated to using ancestral approaches to make nutritious and sustainable food accessible, and his family's personal evolution in food preparation …
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Trash Talk: The Truth About Compostables with Lauren Olson of WorldCentric
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59:57This is an ENCORE EPISODE, originally published on July 9, 2021 In this week’s episode, Mary and Emma dive deep into the world of plastic consumption and waste management with Lauren Olson, a Zero Waste Manager at World Centric, exploring the world of compostables and the use of plastic in our daily lives. The discussion covers several aspects of t…
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Embracing the Seasonal Cycles of Life & Women's Wisdom with Corinna Wood
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1:12:08In this episode, Corinna Wood, a visionary teacher of women's wisdom, discusses her thirty year career with herbalism, teaching, and community building--all while embracing an earth-based, woman-centered approach to women's inner growth and healing. Corinna reflects on her early influences in herbal medicine and wise woman ways, her experiences fou…
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The Unseen: Jerome Elam on Breaking the Silence Around Boys, Trauma, and Trafficking (Part 2)
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27:34What happens when the victims no one talks about begin to speak? In Part 2 of this raw and revealing conversation on Shobukai Shift, Mary Schaub continues her dialogue with Jerome Elam—President and CEO of the Trafficking in America Task Force, U.S. Marine veteran, and child trafficking survivor. This episode turns toward the often-ignored experien…
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ENCORE: Seeking the Wisdom of the Earth with Maria Rodale, Author of Love, Nature, Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden
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52:43This episode was originally published on June 23, 2023 Meet Maria Rodale, an author and advocate for organic regenerative farming. An explorer in search of the mysteries of the universe, Maria is the author of "Love Nature Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden", "Organic Manifesto", "Scratch", and is the author of a children's book s…
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Juneteenth: A History and Reflection on Emancipation with Tony Cohen (ENCORE)
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43:17This bonus episode originally aired on June 19th, 2021 We have a special bonus episode for you this week in celebration of our newest national holiday-- Juneteenth! Mary and Emma reunite with author, historian and farmer Tony Cohen for an exploration into the history of Juneteenth and the holiday’s complex folklore and origins. Tony takes us back i…
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The Unbreakable: Jerome Elam on Surviving Child Trafficking, Healing Through Purpose, Becoming a Global Advocate and CEO for Change (Part 1)
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44:22"They say the truth will set you free. But first, it will break you open." In this deeply moving episode, Mary speaks with Jerome Elam—USMC vet, child trafficking survivor, and CEO of America's Trafficking in America Task Force. From surviving unspeakable abuse to testifying before Congress and training law enforcement across the world, Jerome’s st…
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Encore: Curiosity, Creativity and Community with Eva Kosmas Flores
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1:00:21This episode was originally published on June 25th, 2021 This week, Mary and Emma have a wonderful conversation with photographer, chef, cookbook author, educator and entrepreneur turned homesteader, Eva Kosmas Flores. Eva shares her journey to the slow living lifestyle, led by an ancestral pull and deep familial ties that have guided her back to a…
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The Forest Held My Grief: Nature Stories from the Shobukai
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8:45In this heartfelt follow-up to "The Well-Gardened Self," Mary reads and reflects on powerful listener stories about how nature has supported their personal transformations. From fire escape herb gardens to grief walks through the woods, these stories reveal nature as a quiet but potent ally in healing, connection, and growth. Topics Covered: 🎯Natur…
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Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross
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1:14:07In this episode of The Good Dirt Podcast, we delve into the profound connections between spirituality, ecology, and our natural world with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross, co-authors of 'Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees.' The discussion explores how trees can teach us about relationships, gratitude, reciprocity, and resilience. The authors sh…
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The Well-Gardened Self: Nature, Growth and Personal Transformation
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18:38What if the key to navigating chaos isn’t more control—but more connection to nature? In this episode of Shobukai Shift, Mary explores how the natural world—gardening, birdwatching, even groundhogs—can heal us, grow us, and guide us through personal, organizational, and societal transformation. Drawing from Sue Stuart-Smith’s The Well-Gardened Mind…
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Encore: Seeking Sustainability in Life, Work and Flowers with Bex Partridge of Botanical Tales
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1:09:18This episode was originally published on June 2, 2022 Despite her life being as busy as ever, Bex Partridge tells us about the ways it feels full of better, more fulfilling things since she made the shift from a corporate job to working as a full-time flower farmer and floral designer. Bex is the founder of Botanical Tales, a dried flower installat…
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Rewrite Your Story, Reclaim Your Power: with Penelope Cottrell and Ria Glenn DeMay
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1:00:21In this engaging conversation, Mary Schaub speaks with Penny Cottrell and Ria Glenn DeMay about their journey from working in law and education to creating the Rewrite Workshops, a platform designed to help individuals explore their personal narratives and reclaim their power through writing. They discuss the transformative power of storytelling, t…
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Adventures of a Bad Naturalist with Paula Whyman
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1:04:49This episode delves into the journey of Paula Whyman, author of Bad Naturalist: One Woman's Ecological Education on a Wild Virginia Mountaintop. Paula discusses her transformation from a nature enthusiast to a dedicated ecological restorer. The conversation touches on the diverse challenges and rewarding experiences of managing invasive species, th…
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Listeners Share How They Use Ancient Practices in a 2025 World
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12:07In this episode of Shobukai Shift, host Mary Schaub reads listener's experiences dealing with a 2025 world by limiting social media, trying Qi Gong, and using psychedelics. Key Takeaways 💡 Navigating change can lead to greater meaning and purpose. 💡Ancient practices like Taoism and Buddhism can help cope with modern challenges. 💡'The White Lotus' s…
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Encore: Attainable Sustainability the 80/20 Way with Stephanie Miller
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1:06:53This episode was originally published on May 6, 2022 Learn about individual actions you can take to mitigate climate change and make sustainability attainable for everyone, with Stephanie Miller, author of Zero Waste Living the 80/20 Way and founder of Zero Waste in DC. Stephanie left her job as a climate change specialist for the World Bank in ord…
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Navigating Life in 2025 with Ancient Wisdom
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40:52In this episode of Shobukai Shift, host Mary Schaub explores what it means to be a peaceful warrior in chaotic times, drawing on ancient Eastern philosophies—specifically Taoism and Buddhism—to navigate the overwhelming pace and uncertainty of modern life. Mary opens with a personal story from her early twenties, when a rare moment of stillness dur…
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Exploring Nature Based Land Care with Edwina von Gal
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1:00:53This episode delves into the evolving art of ecological gardening and landscaping with Edwina von Gal, founder of the Perfect Earth Project. Edwina shares her journey from traditional landscape design to championing nature-based solutions, recounting her 'aha' moment with chemical-free gardening. The conversation broadens to discuss the cultural sh…
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Transforming Grief Into Purpose: Matt Fischer is Saving Kids from Addiction
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48:07In this conversation, Matt shares his journey of coping with the loss of his son and his mission to help other families facing similar struggles. The discussion covers the signs of addiction, the role of parents, the impact of grief, and the importance of community support in recovery. Key Takeaways 💡Matt Fischer established the Evan Fischer Founda…
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Encore: The Slow Living Shift- From Striving to Savoring with Fiber Farmer Lisa Mitchell
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1:06:10This episode was originally aired on May 13th, 2022. Visit A Fiber Life for shop and updates! Fiber farmer Lisa Mitchell encourages listeners to embrace a beginner’s mindset and connect to the earth through handwork and making as she tells us the story of her major life shift, from striving for success as an art therapist in the suburbs, to slow li…
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Listeners Share How They Cope with Overwhelming Feelings
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13:36In this episode of Shobukai Shift, host Mary Schaub shares listeners' strategies for managing overwhelming emotions, from cocooning to grounding techniques, while reflecting on her rejuvenating trip to Lisbon and the importance of kindness in everyday interactions. Takeaways: 💡Mary's trip to Lisbon helped her overcome post-COVID travel hesitation a…
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226 Fashion Revolution Week: A Conversation with Congresswoman Chellie Pingree
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42:10In this episode of The Good Dirt Podcast, Mary & Emma discuss Fashion Revolution Week and its significance, referencing the Rana Plaza disaster as a catalyst for the movement. The episode features Congresswoman Chellie Pingree, who discusses the impact of fast fashion on the environment, her advocacy for slow fashion, and the creation of the Congre…
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Three Mindset Shifts for When You're Overwhelmed
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30:32In this episode of Shobukai Shift, Mary Schaub discusses the feelings of overwhelm that many experience in today's rapidly changing world. She shares her personal struggles with overwhelm and explores three mindset shifts to cope with these feelings: sublimation, stoicism, and the anthropologist's perspective. Each shift offers practical strategies…
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Encore: The Role of Activism in the Fashion Revolution with Elizabeth Cline
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51:34This episode was originally published on April 23, 2021 For updates on Elizabeth Cline's advocacy and policy work since this episode was recorded, go to her website at www.elizabethclinebooks.com Our guest this week is Elizabeth Cline, a New York-based author, journalist, and expert on consumer culture, fast fashion, sustainability and labor rights…
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Reclaiming Your Creative Voice A Journey of Authenticity and Transformation with Deborah Zelasny
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51:41In this episode of Shobukai Shift, Mary engages in a heartfelt conversation with Deborah Zelazny, a writer and content creator. They explore their long-standing friendship, the challenges of teenage years, the impact of influential teachers, and the journey of self-discovery through writing and blogging. Deborah shares her experiences of navigating…
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Redefining Rich with Shannon Hayes: Embracing Slow Living and Life-Serving Economies
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55:53This episode delves into the concept of slow living as a continuous practice that requires constant effort and intentionality. Mary & Emma discuss with Shannon Hayes, author of 'Radical Homemakers' and 'Redefining Rich,' about her journey in slow living, holistic farming, and creating a life-serving economy. Hayes shares her experiences of managing…
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Listeners Share How Past Experiences Impact Adaptability
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17:22In this episode of Shobukai Shift, listeners write in to tell their personal stories about why they struggle to deal with even small unexpected changes. In this introspective episode, host Mary Schaub delves into the deep-rooted origins of our emotional responses and the importance of self-reflection in personal transformation. The episode explores…
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Encore: Agroecology, Apples and Sustainable Systems with Horticultural Historian Eliza Greenman
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1:11:27This episode was originally aired March 25, 2022 Join this "fruitful" and enlightening conversation with tree crops specialist, horticultural historian and agroforestry practitioner Eliza Greenman as she explains the evolution of the apple, horticultural tree crop history and shares her love for fruit exploring. A creator of niche products, Eliza i…
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Finding Awesome Goodness with 'Internet Dad' Rob Kenney
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41:18In this conversation, Mary Schaub interviews Rob Kenney, the creator of the popular YouTube channel 'Dad How Do I'. Rob shares his journey from being an introverted sales professional to becoming an internet dad figure for millions. He discusses his childhood experiences, the challenges of mental health in his family, and the impact of bullying on …
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224. Decluttering that Works For You with Dana White of "A Slob Comes Clean"
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1:05:18In this episode of The Good Dirt Podcast, Mary & Emma discuss the common struggles of clutter and its impact on daily life with special guest Dana K. White, author of 'Decluttering at the Speed of Life.' Dana shares her unique five-step decluttering method tailored for creative minds who often find themselves overwhelmed by clutter. She emphasizes …
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Embracing Uncertainty: Why It's Hard & How to Navigate It
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12:10In this conversation, Mary Schaub explores the theme of uncertainty in today's world, emphasizing the importance of self-discovery and inner work. She discusses the challenges of navigating change and the necessity of embracing equanimity to foster personal growth. Through personal anecdotes and philosophical insights, she encourages listeners to r…
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Encore: Paul Hawken on Carbon, Climate and Connection
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54:24This episode was originally aired April 26, 2024 In this conversation with best selling author and activist Paul Hawken, we discuss the reframing of our relationship with nature by moving away from the concept of "othering" ourselves, and more towards the integration of our interconnectedness. Paul speaks of the cultural disconnect, the role of lan…
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From Trauma to Transformation: How Inner Work Shapes Better Business Leaders with Amy Elizabeth Fox
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48:24Mobius Executive Leadership CEO Amy Elizabeth Fox discusses how addressing trauma and fostering personal growth creates more effective business leaders and healthier corporate cultures. Learn how combining psychological insights with leadership development drives sustainable organizational change. Key Takeaways: 💡Sustainable leadership change requi…
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223. Rethinking Carbon: An Enlightening Conversation with Paul Hawken
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1:03:46In this episode of the Good Dirt Podcast, hosts Emma and Mary return from winter break with a special interview featuring repeat guest Paul Hawken, the acclaimed environmentalist, author, and activist. They discuss Hawken's new book, 'Carbon, the Book of Life,' which explores the multifaceted role of carbon in our universe, challenging the prevaili…
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A deeply personal discussion of change management, self-discovery, and transforming unexpected challenges into opportunities for growth. The episode delves into personal change appetite, mindset flexibility, and the power of embracing life's unpredictable moments. Takeaways: 💡 Change can be uncomfortable, but it often leads to unexpected insights a…
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131. Rewilding Our Way Home to Ourselves with Hillarie Maddox of Black Girl Country Living
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1:09:45Mary & Emma are on a brief hiatus and plan to return next spring. Please enjoy this episode that was originally aired on March 3rd, 2023 This week we are talking to writer, creator and self proclaimed life-long learner, Hillarie Maddox, founder of Black Girl, Country Living. Hillarie preaches the idea that slow living in a lifestyle anyone can live…
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How a Sabbatical Led to a Life-Changing Transformation with Suzanne Roske
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52:43In this conversation, Mary Schaub interviews Suzanne Roske, founder and CEO of Vamonos Executive Coaching, discussing her journey of personal transformation, the writing of her book, and the importance of self-discovery. They explore themes of vulnerability, trust, and the challenges of making significant life changes, particularly during the COVID…
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An Ecological Civilization for All with Andrew Schwartz of EcoCiv
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1:01:51Mary & Emma are on a brief hiatus and plan to return next spring. Please enjoy this episode that was originally aired on 07/22/22. What does it mean for humans to live sustainably on the earth? Andrew Schwartz, Co-Founder and Executive Vice President of The Institute for Ecological Civilization, a non-profit promoting long-term solutions for the we…
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Breaking Free: Unlearning, Growth, and the Thousand Catalysts of Change
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26:03Change isn’t always sparked by a single life-altering event—it’s often a series of thousands of mini catalysts shaping us over time. In this episode of Shobukai Shift, we explore the journey of self-discovery, the process of unlearning societal conditioning, and the mental shifts required to break free from toxic narratives. How do we resist extern…
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145. Reclaiming Our Food from Field to Kitchen with CSA Farmer Mo Moutoux of Moutoux Orchard
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1:14:21Mary & Emma are on a brief hiatus and plan to return next spring. Please enjoy this episode that was originally aired in June, 2023 Emma and Mary are back from Emma's wedding, and they are spreading the joy with The Good Dirt. This episode features Maureen "Mo" Moutoux of Moutoux Orchards in Purcellville, VA. Mo has a Masters Degree in Anthropology…
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Preposterously Audacious: A Dark Optimist's Guide to Changing the World with Dr. Ralph H. Groce III
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46:57In this conversation, Dr. Ralph H. Gross III, President, COO and author of We Have Nothing to Lose: A Dark Optimist's Call to Action, shares his journey from a bright child in Pittsburgh to a successful leader and author. He discusses the importance of ambition, resilience, and transformational change in both personal and professional contexts. Ral…
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"Lawns into Meadows" with Author Owen Wormser on Regenerative Landscaping
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1:00:51Mary & Emma are on a brief hiatus and plan to return next spring. Please enjoy this episode that was originally aired on 7/21/23. Did you know that in this country, we have an area totaling the size of Washington State that is mowed lawns? Our guest is Owen Wormser, author of Lawns Into Meadows, who helps to weave people and the natural world back …
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The Great Adaptation: Reimagining Life in a World of Change
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16:17The world is undergoing rapid transformation, affecting all aspects of life. Shifting attitudes towards work reflect a desire for meaningful engagement. Ikigai represents the intersection of passion, skills, and societal needs. Coping with change requires understanding the complexities of human emotions. Living intentionally means questioning socie…
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130. It Starts in the Kitchen: Sustainable Living with Anne-Marie Bonneau of Zero Waste Chef
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1:01:01Mary & Emma are on a brief hiatus and plan to return in the spring. Please enjoy this episode that was originally aired on 2/24/23. Our guest today is someone who began her plastic-free journey in her kitchen, and has now become the renowned Zero Waste Chef, Anne-Marie Bonneau! Starting as a Zero Plastic Chef, she took the next step in her sustaina…
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