Best Ma Lu Podcasts (2026)

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Full Course: The AI Stack We Actually Use for Prototyping, Strategy, and Personal OS (2026) 51:32

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Tal and Aman are experienced AI PMs so I made us all share our favorite AI product workflows — from writing strategy docs to prototyping with Google AI Studio to building a personal task system with Claude Code. Watch this episode if you want to see 5 real no-BS AI product workflows in 50 minutes. We talked about: (00:00) Our best AI workflows for …

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Full Tutorial: Build Your Personal Operating System with Claude Code | Teresa Torres 49:36

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Teresa is a well-known product coach and author who runs her entire life and business using two Claude Code terminals and a note taking app. It was genuinely mind blowing to watch her use Claude Code to manage her to do list, delegate her research, and write content. Teresa and I talked about: (00:00) Why Teresa uses Claude Code to run her life (03…

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A Founder's Playbook for Shipping 10x Faster with AI | Yana Welinder 41:53

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Yana is Head of AI at Amplitude and a good friend. We had some real talk about how to stay scrappy inside a big company, including how to avoid decision by committee and endless internal debates. Yana also demoed her favorite AI workflows to triage her emails and aggregate customer feedback. I think you’ll love our banter 😅 Yana and I talked about:…

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An Inside Look at What Alexa Can Now Do with AI (December 2025) | Daniel Rausch 29:39

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As VP of Alexa, Daniel builds product for 600M Alexa devices. He had a great answer to my tough question: “Why has it taken so long to add AI to Alexa?” and then gave a live demo of what an AI-powered Alexa looks like. We also had a great chat about how to apply Amazon’s working backwards process to build useful AI products. Daniel and I talked abo…

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A Proven 5-Step System to Prototype Apps with AI | Xinran Ma 38:14

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Xinran is a top AI instructor who has taught 100s of product teams how to design and prototype with AI. He shared 5 practical techniques to avoid generating AI slop — from side-by-side exploration to reverse prompting to component libraries — that you can start trying today. If you want to level up on AI prototyping, this is a must watch. Xinran an…

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Full Tutorial: How to Use Voice AI to Work and Code 10x Faster | Tanay Kothari 38:43

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Tanay is the CEO and co-founder of Wispr Flow, my favorite app to dictate to AI 10x faster than typing. I asked him to do a live tutorial on how to get the most out of AI voice dictation, how his brain-to-text device reads your thoughts without speaking, and how he built an AI product that has 70% annual retention (unheard of!) by NOT focusing on A…

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Full Tutorial: Design to Code in 45 Min with Cursor's Head of Design | Ryo Lu 45:47

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As the head of design at Cursor, Ryo is at the cutting edge of designers who ship code instead of mocks. He showed me how he built a retro OS with AI and did a live demo of adding a new feature using Cursor’s new agent mode. We also covered how to avoid AI design slop and how the Cursor team reached $29B valuation without full-time PMs. Ryo and I t…

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7 Counterintuitive Product Lessons from WhatsApp's Former Head of Product | Ami Vora 50:44

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Ami is the one of my favorite product leaders, period. In my new episode, she breaks down why shipping fast beats the best strategy, how to build simple products that win, how to ask AI for brutally honest feedback, and more. Ami led product at Faire and WhatsApp, but above all she just has great, practical advice for all builders. Ami and I talked…

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Full Tutorial: From Prototype to a Real SaaS App in 40 Minutes | Colin Matthews 39:16

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Colin has taught 1000s of students how to build SaaS apps with AI. In this episode, he showed me exactly why my vibe coded prototype was insecure and how to convert it into a real SaaS app with auth, payments, and more. If you want to learn to build SaaS apps in 40 minutes with Cursor and Claude Code, then this episode is for you. Colin and I talke…

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AI Agents, Clearly Explained in 40 Minutes | Wade Foster (Zapier) 37:01

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Wade is the co-founder and CEO of Zapier. We’re both sick of everyone calling everything an “AI agent” so we had some real talk about what actually works instead. Wade gave me a practical demo of his AI workflow that triages 100+ emails to 10 and shared exactly how to find automation opportunities on your calendar. Wade and I talked about: (00:00) …

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Notion's New AI Agents for Work Blew Me Away (Full Tutorial) | Akshay & Ryan 53:32

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Everyone calls their AI product an “agent” but Notion’s actually live up to the hype. It took Akshay (Notion’s co-founder) and Ryan (AI lead) 2 years of failure to build agents that can create databases, respond to Slack, and more. We had a great chat about their most surprising lessons from building the best AI agents for work. We talked about: (0…

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Inside Gemini and NotebookLM: How Google is Shipping Non-Stop | Josh Woodward 43:57

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Josh is the the VP of Gemini, Google Labs (NotebookLM), and AI Studio and widely considered one of Google’s most beloved leaders. In our interview, he demoed how to get the most out of Gemini and NotebookLM, the startup culture inside Google, and where he thinks Gemini is headed next. We talked about: (00:00) How Josh brings startup hustle to Googl…

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Full Tutorial: A Proven 3-File System to Vibe Code Production Apps | Ryan Carson 51:54

3M ago51:54

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Ryan Carson.Ryan is a serial founder who has developed an amazing 3-file system to vibe code without frustration that has 5,000+ stars on Github. In our interview, he demoed adding a new feature to his production app by using AI to create a spec, generate atomic tasks, and build automated tests for each tas…

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AI Evaluations Crash Course in 50 Minutes (2025) | Hamel Husain 52:29

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Hamel Husain. Hamel has trained 2,000+ PMs and engineers from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google on how to run AI evals. In my new episode, he shares a free master class on how to build evals for a real AI agent in just 50 minutes using a simple spreadsheet. I learned a lot from Hamel and I think …

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Full Tutorial: From Design to Code with Claude Code in 40 Minutes | Meaghan Choi 39:29

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Meaghan Choi.As the design lead for Claude Code, Meaghan not only designs new features but also ships code on a regular basis. She showed me her exact design to code workflow along with her top 3 use cases for Claude Code. This interview is a must-watch if you’re a designer or PM who dreams of shipping to p…

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Inside Claude Code: How an AI Native Team Actually Works | Cat Wu 40:36

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Cat Wu.Cat is the product lead for Claude Code and I got her to share how one of the most AI-native teams in tech actually works. Highlights include getting user feedback every 10 minutes, going straight to prototypes instead of docs, and designers checking in code directly. Cat also shared her 3 best Claud…

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Full Tutorial: Build an AI Co-Pilot for Your Life with Claude Code | Alex Finn 25:49

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Alex Finn.Alex is a founder who has built a complete “Claude Life” operating system to automate research, curate AI news, analyze brain dumps, and more. I asked him to walk through exactly how to set up this system using Claude Code slash commands and sub-agents in just 25 minutes. Alex and I talked about: …

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Ranking 15 PM Skills: What Survives vs. Gets Disrupted by AI | Nan Yu (Linear) 58:43

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Nan Yu (Linear’s Head of Product).Despite only having 2 PMs, Linear has scaled to over 15,000 companies including OpenAI and Ramp. In our chat, Nan and I did a fun exercise to rank what PM skills still matter in the AI era and he also demoed Linear’s new AI agents that can write code, triage tickets, and an…

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Complete Beginner's Course on AI Evaluations: Step by Step (2025) | Aman Khan 51:47

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Aman Khan.The best way to learn about AI evaluations is to watch 2 PMs build them live from scratch. In our new episode, Aman and I walk through creating evals for an AI customer support agent — from labeling a golden dataset to aligning LLM judges. This is the complete beginners AI eval course you've been …

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Cursor Tutorial for Beginners from Cursor's Head of AI Education (2025) | Lee Robinson 50:21

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Lee Robinson.Lee is the VP of Developer Experience at Cursor and a legend in his field. While most people are still vibe coding, Lee showed me how to build apps properly using planning, test-driven development, AI agent workflows, and more. This is a must-watch tutorial for beginners who want to learn how t…

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How to Build an AI Co-Pilot to Help You Ace PM Interviews | Ben Erez (ex-Meta) 36:43

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Ben Erez.Ben is a former Meta PM who has helped 100s of people ace their PM interviews and land their dream jobs in tech. I got him to show me exactly how to ace product sense interviews and build an AI-copilot that his students say feels like having a "calibrated interviewer that's available 24/7."Ben and …

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How to Get Your Team to Start Prototyping with AI | Jeremy Epling (CPO Vanta) 43:11

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Jeremy Epling. Jeremy is the CPO of Vanta and former VP of Product at Github. He showed me the exact template that he used to get his entire team to prototype with AI, his favorite AI workflows for PM work, and why now might be the best time to be an IC PM. We also did a deep dive on how Vanta ran AI evalua…

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Full Tutorial: Use AI to Create Beautiful Designs (No Generic Slop) | Meng To 46:17

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Meng is the founder of Aura, an AI prototyping tool for designers. He has spent 100s of hours using AI to create beautiful designs that don’t look like generic AI slop. Watch as he shares his exact process in this episode — from prompting to layouts to animations, and more without having to code.Timestamps: (00:00) Why most AI websites look generic…

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Full Tutorial: Build an App with Multiple AI Agents (Claude Code) 1:02:14

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Kieran Klaassen.Kieran is the founder of Cora, a beautiful AI email assistant. While we’ve all been vibe coding, Kieran has gone to the next level to manage multiple AI agents to code for him at the same time. I got him to show me exactly how he does this using Claude Code, voice, slash commands, and more. …

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Dropbox VP's Best AI Workflows to Help You Take Back Time at Work | Morgan Brown 41:27

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Morgan Brown.Morgan is the VP of Product for AI at Dropbox. He gave me an inside look at his top AI workflows. We also talked about building Dash, Dropbox’s new AI agent for work, and how AI will reshape PM.Timestamps: (00:00) How Morgan uses AI as a companion for everything he does (01:26) Morgan's 3 best …

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Is This the First AI Analyst That Actually Works? | James Evans (Amplitude) 41:57

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Today, I want to share a new episode with James Evans. James is the Head of AI for Amplitude, the leading product analytics platform. We had a great chat about why nobody has built a good AI analyst yet and why he’s betting on AI agents that can monitor your product 24/7. James also shared some real talk about whether AI will displace PM and analys…

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Canva Co-Founder: The AI Playbook Behind the World's Most Popular Design Tool | Cameron Adams 48:00

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Cameron Adams.Cameron leads product for Canva where people are creating 1B+ designs every month. We talked about how AI will transform design and why he believes in prototypes over PRDs and coaches over managers. I also loved hearing Cam’s stories about Canva’s rubber ducky easter egg and what a bike accide…

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How OpenAI's Head of Business Products Uses ChatGPT to Save Time at Work | Nate Gonzalez 45:55

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Nate Gonzalez.Nate leads ChatGPT for Work which is now used by 92% of Fortune 500 companies. In our chat, he reveals how OpenAI runs with less than 30 PMs, what they look for in new hires, how he personally uses ChatGPT to save time at work, and more. Timestamps:(00:00) 92% of Fortune 500 companies already …

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Complete Vibe Coding Tutorial: Build a Full Stack App in 30 Min with AI | Matt Palmer 51:54

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Matt Palmer is the Head of Developer Relations at Replit and a vibe coding expert. He showed me how to build an app to help busy parents find kid-friendly places (playgrounds, hikes) nearby in just 30 minutes without writing a single line of code. We covered frontend, API, databases, authentication, security and more.Timestamps: (00:00) The 3 core …

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Complete AI Course on Prompting, Evals, RAG, and Fine-Tuning | Adam Loving (Meta) 46:21

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Adam Loving (Meta) has helped 100s of companies craft AI products. Our interview is a complete, beginner friendly AI course on how to use prompting, evals, RAG, and fine-tuning to build great AI products. Timestamps: (00:00) The 2 types of AI optimizations every PM needs to know (02:52) 4 tips to craft compelling AI prompts (07:14) 4 types of AI ev…

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How to Advance Your Career Without Managing People | Sam Gregg-Wallace 40:34

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Today, I want to share a new episode with Sam Gregg-Wallace.As VP of Talent at Shopify, Sam is building a radical career system where ICs are paid the same as managers, AI usage is mandatory, and employees can advance their career by mastering their craft. If you’re tired of the corporate ladder, then this episode is for you.Timestamps: (00:00) It'…

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From Idea to Product in 30 Min Using AI Agents (Full Tutorial) | Claire Vo 51:57

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Claire is the Chief Product Officer of LaunchDarkly, founder of ChatPRD, and host of the How I AI podcast. No product leader uses AI as much as Claire so I was thrilled to get her to demo how she builds a new feature with AI agents and how she’s advising PMs to adapt to AI in the next 18 months. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ co…

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Figma's AI Prototyping Tool is Here and...It's a MUST TRY | David Kossnick 43:07

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David is the Head of AI Product at Figma and gave me an exclusive demo of Figma Make, Figma’s new AI prototyping tool. We had a great chat about how Make stands out from other tools and how it works under the hood, including a deep dive on evals. This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp and Drata a single API t…

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The Best AI Coding Tools to Use in 2025 | Colin Matthews 43:45

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Colin Matthews has taught 1000+ students on how to prototype apps with AI. In this interview, we demoed the best AI coding tools for each use case - from prototyping to production apps. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ companies like Atlassian who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at https://v…

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5 Harsh Truths About Wealth You Don't Want to Realize Too Late | Sahil Bloom 45:01

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Sahil is the founder, investor, and New York Times bestselling author of The Five Types of Wealth. In our chat, he shares some profound life lessons that will be a wake-up call for any high achiever in tech and exactly how he grew to 1M+ followers.Timestamps:(00:00) The one thing high-achievers are missing (02:58) The five types of wealth that crea…

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He Built Uber Eats to $25B, Now He's Pushing AI Beyond Chat | Stephen Chau 57:05

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My guest today is Stephen Chau.Stephen is the co-founder of Cove, a Sequoia-backed startup that lets you interact with AI through a ground-breaking visual interface instead of chat. We had a great chat about why the future of AI is generative UI, how to build great AI products, and how he scaled Uber Eats from $0 to $25B.This episode is brought to …

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I Built a $100M Company in 3 Years by Betting on AI Agents | Arvind Jain (CEO Glean) 37:43

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My guest today is Arvind Jain. Arvind is the CEO of Glean and believes every employee should have a team of AI agents to help them get work done. We had a great chat about how AI agents will impact work and Arvind’s top lessons from scaling Glean to $100M ARR in 3 years. This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp…

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Exclusive: Inside the Best AI Model for Coding and Writing | Scott White (Anthropic) 45:23

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My guest today is Scott White.Scott is the Head of Product for Claude at Anthropic, and I’m excited to be the first to interview him about the hybrid reasoning AI model Claude 3.7 Sonnet. Scott also gave me a behind-the-scenes look at how Anthropic builds AI products, the most essential skills in the AI era, and how Claude will evolve from assistan…

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AI Does 90% of My Work Now as a Product Leader | Yana Welinder (Kraftful) 36:56

11M ago36:56

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My guest today is Yana Welinder.Yana is the CEO of Kraftful, an AI product that helps 50,000 product teams extract insights from user reviews and surveys. She’s also a power user of ChatGPT and did a live demo of her top AI workflows for Deep Research and Operator.Timestamps:(00:00) At this point, I’m not doing anything without AI(01:38) Live demo …

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We were going to shut down our company…now we’re worth $700M | Eric Simons (Bolt) 48:22

11M ago48:22

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My guest today is Eric Simons. Eric is the CEO of Bolt, the AI coding platform that has exploded from 0 to 3M users in less than a year. Eric gave me a live demo of building a $2B mobile app from scratch with Bolt, how his “overnight” success was seven years in the making, and how real product teams use Bolt to get work done faster. This episode is…

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This Vision Playbook Will Change YouTube and Your Life | Ebi Atawodi 49:42

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My guest today is Ebi Atawodi. Ebi is the Director of Product for YouTube Studio, the home for 65M creators (including me). Ebi gave me an inside look at crafting Studio’s vision and how to define yourself beyond your job title. Ebi’s super inspiring, and you'll love our chat. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join over 9,000 global compani…

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This AI Tool Lets You Build Apps Faster Than Googling | Amjad Mosad (Replit) 39:27

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My guest today is Amjad Mosad, CEO and founder of Replit.Amjad is the CEO of Replit, an AI coding platform with 34M users that’s making it possible for anyone to build an app in 60 seconds from their phone. In our chat, Amjad shared how you can learn to code with AI and gave me a live demo of Replit’s AI agent. We also discussed the skills that wil…

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The #1 Hack to Build Apps With AI Without Getting Stuck | Colin Matthews 43:16

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My guest today is Colin Matthews.Colin is a rockstar instructor who teaches a popular AI Prototyping for PMs course on building AI apps without coding skills. In our interview, Colin shared how to pick the right AI prototyping tool, what you should do before asking AI to code, and how to build a habit-tracking app step by step in just 20 minutes. B…

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Inside Suno, the AI Music App You Won't Be Able to Stop Listening To | Mikey Shulman (Suno) 35:30

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My guest today is Mikey Shulman.Mikey is the CEO and co-founder of Suno, the best AI music app available. I’ve had so much fun using it to make songs with my kids. In our chat, Mikey shares how music LLMs work, how Suno builds AI products, and the good and bad futures of music with AI.Timestamps:(00:00) The good and bad futures of AI in music (03:4…

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The 5 Hidden Rules Behind Successful AI Products | Chris Pedregal (Granola) 38:09

12M ago38:09

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My guest today is Chris Pettigrew.Chris is the co-founder and CEO of Granola, an AI meeting notes app that has become indispensable to me. Granola has 70%+ weekly user retention, almost unheard of for consumer AI. In our interview, Chris shared five hard-won rules for building AI products that users love and explained why AI will fix meetings. Time…

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The AI Skill That Will Define Your PM Career in 2025 | Aman Khan (Arize) 46:26

1y ago46:26

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My guest today is Aman Khan. Aman is the Director of Product at Arize AI. Last year, we both heard the Chief Product Officers of OpenAI and Anthropic share that AI evaluations will be the most important skill for PMs in 2025. Aman gave me a crash course on how to build this critical skill in our interview. Timestamps: (00:00) Evals force you to get…

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This is What Top 1% PMs Do Differently | Amit Fulay (VP Microsoft) 39:18

1y ago39:18

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My guest today is Amit Fulay. Amit is a product VP at Microsoft who previously spent 15 years building products like News Feed (Meta) and Google Meet (Google). In our interview, he reveals the three types of product leaders, how to build trust at each career stage, and what AI means for PMs. He also teaches a popular on leveling up from PM to influ…

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Make 2025 Your Best Year Yet With This Ritual | Katia Verresen 48:14

1y ago48:14

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My guest today is Katia Verresen.Katia is one of Silicon Valley's most sought-after leadership coaches. Her clients include Fidji Simo (CEO of Instacart), Kate Rouch (CMO of OpenAI), Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry), who all rave about how she transformed their careers. In our chat, Katia shared her proven techniques to help you achieve your goals in the …

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This Will Make You Rethink Your Product and Career in 2025 | Sachin Rekhi (Notejoy) 47:50

1y ago47:50

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My guest today is Sachin Rekhi. Sachin scaled LinkedIn’s Sales Navigator to $200M ARR and 500 employees. He then left it all behind to start Notejoy; a team notes app. I had a great chat with him about finding market fit for your product and career in 2025 and how to design work to suit your life, not vice versa. Timestamps:(00:00) I got my dream P…

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How to Survive and Thrive as a Busy Working Parent | Deb Liu (CEO Ancestry) 39:15

1y ago39:15

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My guest today is Deb Liu.Deb is the CEO of Ancestry, former VP at Meta, and writer of Perspectives. But for our interview, I wanted to talk to Deb about a more personal topic: How to survive and thrive as a busy working parent with your spouse, aging parents, and kids. In our interview, Deb shared her best advice on building a 60-60 relationship w…