Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts ...
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Ep 185 — It's A Holly Jolly Thanksgiving, But Not For Lindsey Halligan
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49:39Big Mazal Tov to Lindsey Halligan, who can stop pretending to be a federal prosecutor now. Judge Cameron McGowan Currie ruled that Halligan was never lawfully appointed as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. And since Halligan was the only lawyer who presented the James Comey and Letitia James cases to the grand jury, those cases were…
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Ep 184 — As Lindsey Halligan Wipes Out, Ed Martin Says 'Hold My Beer!'
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59:14The lies around the James Comey indictment continue to grow, and we suspect we won't have Imaginary US Attorney Lindsey Halligan to kick around much longer. The US Attorney's Office in Maryland would like her to have some company on her way out. Meanwhile, MAGA's biggest nemesis, Judge James Boasberg in DC, is moving full speed ahead with criminal …
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Ep 183 — Hurricane Halligan Strikes Again
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48:24Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code CHAOS at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/chaos Cosplay US Attorney Lindsey Halligan's grand jury presentation in Jim Comey's case was somehow even worse than expected. She got shredded by the magistrate judge, but scored a five-day reprieve from the district cour…
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The Epstein emails are here, and now we know why Republicans were hellbent on keeping them hidden. What will it take to see the rest? Will Trump actually make good on his threat to sue the BBC for tortious editing? How bad did LARP-ing US Attorney Lindsey Halligan fall on her face today in the Comey and James cases? And for subscribers: The GOP inv…
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Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code CHAOS at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/chaos What did the Democrats win by caving on the shutdown? Astronomical increases in health insurance premiums! And … more weaponization of the Justice Department. We'll break down the latest on the James Comey and Letiti…
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Ep 180 — Does SCOTUS Have Buyers Remorse On Trump Tariffs?
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1:06:15The Supreme Court's conservatives are horrified to discover that making Trump god king of tariffs may backfire. Too bad they didn't realize that two months ago, huh? Two courts in Chicago tell DHS goons to follow the Constitution. And Lindsey Halligan, insurance prosecutor to the stars, continues to be amazing. Links: The Situation: Where's The Lie…
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Ep 179 — Trial Judges Learn To Hunt In Packs
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1:04:58As Sean "Hoagie Hero" Dunn goes on trial in DC for throwing a sandwich at an immigration agent, we learn what a "husher" is. A judge in New York yanks the seal off of another harassment campaign against Trump's enemies. The Oregon national guard remains federalized but not deployed. And we've got a deep dive into all the many illegal ways Trump is …
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Ep 178 — Are Courts Finally Finding Their Footing In The Second Trump Era?
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49:31The psychopaths running the government are not going to let a crisis go to waste. They're taking advantage of the shutdown to cut SNAP benefits and fire civil servants — or they would if courts would let them. Plus, the Ninth Circuit and even the Supreme Court (GASP!) are putting the kibosh on Trump's plan to flood blue states with troops. And stil…
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The Trump administration got caught lying to the Ninth Circuit about the so-called crisis in Portland. Will it matter? Is Stephen Miller correct that ICE and CBP can beat up protesters without worrying about legal repercussions? (No, but …) And what even is spoliation anyway? Asking for Justin Baldoni. Plus for subscribers, a deep dive into the gov…
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Ep 176 — Gamblers Cheat … And So Does The President
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47:53US Attorney Lindsey Halligan takes a break from prosecuting Jim Comey for leaking to reporters to … leak to reporters. Jim Comey noticed, and so did New York Attorney General Tish James. The Ninth Circuit blesses Trump's invasion of Los Angeles. There is gambling in basketball. We are shocked, SHOCKED! And Trump demands $230 million from US Treasur…
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It's make or break time for the rule of law at the Supreme Court, as the Trump administration's plan to flood the streets with troops comes to One First Street. The Ninth Circuit says: YES. The Seventh Circuit says: NO. Meanwhile in Virginia, Trump's insurance lawyer Lindsey Halligan is LARPing as US Attorney so she can prosecute his nemesis James …
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Ep 174 — Alternative Facts Emergency
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1:07:29Donald Trump is weaponizing the government against his enemies. But at least there are no national guard troops on the streets of Chicago or Portland. And a trial judge in California blocked Russ Vought's efforts to burn down every federal agency during the shutdown. Plus, Alex Jones is still and always a loser. Links: Candace Owens Can't Go To Aus…
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Ep 173 — Justice Barrett Isn't Mad, She's Just Disappointed That You Keep Saying SCOTUS Is Broken
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1:03:08The Justice Department continues to be a sh*tshow, with the indictment of James Comey already hitting the skids. Whodathunk that putting Trump's personal insurance lawyer in charges of criminal prosecutions would work out badly! Justice Amy Coney Barrett heads to Fox News to flog her book and express her disappointment that we are all being so mean…
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Ep 172 — Law School In The Age Of Trump (Ft. Prof. Eric Segall)
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1:05:47Liz and Andrew talk to Professor Eric Segall of Georgia state University College of Lawl. He teaches federal courts and constitutional law I and II, and is the author of the books Originalism as Faith and Supreme Myths: Why the Supreme Court is not a Court and its Justices are not Judges. How can one teach ConLaw when the Supreme Court is burning d…
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Ep 171 — Can Trump Put Troops In Every City Simply By Shouting EMERGENCY?
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1:01:32The government may be shut down, but ICE is not. We'll compare Trump's efforts to deploy the National Guard in LA, DC, Portland, and Chicago. In better news, Alex Jones looks to be at the end of the road with his plot to use bankruptcy to shield his company from the Sandy Hook parents. And we have breaking news in Law and Chaos's FOIA suit against …
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Ep 170 — SCOTUS Lets Trump Steal $4 Billion Because UHHH Standing
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1:00:58Mike Lindell is having a bad day in court, and Alex Jones is about to. The Supreme Court decides that Trump can steal Congress's power over the budget, Constitution be damned. And Justin Baldoni returns to teach us all how NOT to do civil procedure. Links: Oregon v. Trump Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71481149/state-of-oregon-v-trump …
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Ep 169 — The DOJ Descends Into Naked Corruption
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51:55After Trump appoints his lackey Lindsey Halligan US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, he finally gets his indictment of former FBI Director James Comey. But will it stand in front of a real judge? We break down the grand jury process, and why they say a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. And for subscribers, Andrew and Liz explain …
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Ep 168 — License To Kill? (feat. Brian Finucane)
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1:06:08Domestically, Tom Homan takes bribes and Republicans just don't care. Internationally, the Trump administration is engaged in international war crimes by murdering foreign civilians, and… Republicans still just don't care. Learn why this is an Article I Constitutional crisis with guest Brian Finucane. Links: Brian Finucane, International Crisis Gro…
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The Trump administration goes mask-off with its attack on Jimmy Kimmel. If you'd told us the Man Show guy would become a First Amendment avatar … we'd never have believed you. Meanwhile, the Justice Department has torched its cred with all the judges, even the FedSoc ones! But Lisa Cook is still a Fed governor! Links: SCOTUS Docket Lisa Cook https:…
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The Department of Homeland Security has decreed that we will all learn what chain refoulement is … by watching them try to rendition wave after wave of immigrants. Andrew and Liz will explain how that's totally illegal. Plus, Newsmax is suing Fox News, again. Links: Newsmax v. Fox [Wisconsin Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71323347/new…
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Ep 165 — Lower Court Judges Throw Shade At SCOTUS Shadow Docket
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1:09:46District and Circuit Court judges are in more or less open revolt over the Supreme Court's abuse of the shadow docket. Perhaps Justice Gorsuch shouldn't have implied that they were all stupid and insubordinate for failing to read his mind! The Trump administration insists it's very cool and very legal to deport immigrant children in the middle of t…
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Ep 164 — SCOTUS Discovers that Racial Profiling Is Legal Now
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58:10The Supreme Court used the shadow docket to legalize racial profiling, although only Justice Kavanaugh was dumb enough to admit it out loud. It also overturned Humphrey's Executor, but this time even Kav wouldn't cop to it. Meanwhile at the White House, Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought discovers ONE WEIRD trick to steal Congress…
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Newsmax is suing Fox News, and they've scored antitrust expert (lol) Judge Aileen Cannon. And while the Supreme Court is busy burning down the judiciary, trial judges are standing up. This week Judge Allison Burroughs of the District Court of Massachusetts ordered the Trump administration to give Harvard University its grant money back, and along t…
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Ep 162 — Court Blocks DHS Plot To Kidnap Migrant Children
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56:18Today on Law and Chaos … Trump's tariffs are illegal. A Judge named Sparkle just lit Kristi Noem on fire for trying to kidnap hundreds of Guatemalan children in the middle of the night. And Rudy Giuliani is getting the presidential medal of freedom. Plus, subscribers get a deep dive into all the ways the Department of Homeland Security is violating…
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After "fixing" crime in DC, Trump is off to "fix" Chicago. But since Chicago is in an actual state, he may encounter one or two legal issues. And after the Supreme Court shook its finger at the president and said not to fire members of the Federal Reserve, he's trying to do it anyway. Whodathunkit? Meanwhile, DC US Attorney Jeanine Pirro can't seem…
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Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been returned to Maryland… where he was promptly arrested by ICE, which is threatening to deport him to Uganda. Will the courts stop it? Meanwhile, Texas tees up to defend breaking apart majority-minority districts by claiming that they were only trying to hurt Democrats, not Latinos. Also: can Trump really ban flag burning…
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Ep 159 — New York Appeals Court Gives Trump Half a Billion Dollars
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1:00:09The Fifth Circuit says yes to drag shows, but no to workers' rights. Donald Trump loses one fight to keep his dingbat lawyer Alina Habba on as Acting Interim Assistant Special Top Secret Temporary US Attorney for New Jersey, but wins big in a New York appellate court. And multiple courts tell Attorney General Pam Bondi to pound sand, even though sh…
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Ep 158 — All The Defamation News That's Fit To Pod
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1:02:27As Dominion Voting Systems settles its defamation suit with Newsmax, Hunter Biden is making defamation suits great again. He's currently suing Overstock founder Patrick Byrne, and about to be sued by the first lady. Meanwhile, Media Matters scores a big victory over the Federal Trade Commission, and football coach Brian Flores notches a win against…
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Ep 157 — Census 2025? No. (feat. Kel McClanahan)
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1:02:58We welcome back National Security Counselors' Kel McClanahan to discuss how the Law & Chaos podcast will be suing the Trump administration. Also: no, Trump can't order a new census just because he doesn't like the actual numbers. And the Supreme Court tees up an argument advanced by Clarence Thomas to gut what remains of the Voting Rights Act. Link…
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What's going on in Texas, where Democrats have walked out of the state legislature in an effort to thwart (or at least postpone) handing Donald Trump five more congressional seats in the 2026 midterms. Is it a crime? Does it break norms? And most importantly: will it work? And we check back in with the administration's efforts to keep Alina Habba o…
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Ep 155 — We FOIAed The Justice Department & Poor Alan Dershowitz Still Can't Get A Snack
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1:00:36The Department of Justice has filed an ethics complaint against the Chief Judge of the District Court in DC, James Boasberg, and we've enlisted Kel McClanahan to help us figure out what (if any) evidence the Trump administration has to support its claims. Plus, Liz and Andrew listened to the Federal Circuit's oral argument over Trump's tariffs. And…
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The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein continues to haunt Donald Trump, so he sent his attorney Todd Blanche to Florida to visit Ghislaine Maxwell for an exorcism. Despite the Supreme Court's valiant efforts, lower courts are still refusing to let the Trump administration un-person children of immigrants. And Alina Habba is back in her office at the US Attor…
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The Supreme Court can't be bothered to do real law — but they still expect trial judges to read their minds and treat those nebulous shadow docket orders like binding precedent. And that invisible ink precedent says that Trump can fire anyone, anywhere, at any time. Abrego Garcia is still dancing on the knife edge between Trump's DOJ and his DHS. A…
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Ep 152 — Trial Judges Know What's Up
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1:00:08Today on the show the First Circuit is reversing DOGE's "DEI" cuts at NIH. Trump is suing the Wall Street Journal for defamatory reporting that he was friends with that pedophile he used to party with all the time. And trial courts are calling SCOTUS's shadow docket bluff. Plus, Alina Habba is headed for the exit. Links: SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order …
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Ep 151 — This Is All The Supreme Court's Fault
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59:09What do Trump's plans to fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell, level illegal tariffs, and stuff the court with his cronies have in common? They're all the fault of the Supreme Court's six conservatives. Then we'll take a break from … all this … and learn some more civil procedure from Justin Baldoni. Links: Can Trump Actually Fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell? …
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Ep 150 — SCOTUS Allows Trump To Burn Down Department of Education
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47:05The Supreme Court is handing out lit matches and gasoline to the arsonist in chief and inviting him to burn down the Department of Education. Attorney Pam Bondi keeps inventing new ways to be corrupt, and none of them have to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And DHS is now kidnapping IP along with actual human beings. Plus, for subscribers, we'll talk abou…
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Ep 149 — You Cannot Lie (To Judges) When Whistleblowers Have Receipts!
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53:54Trump's executive order stripping citizenship from children of immigrants has been enjoined again. Will the Supreme Court burn down another plank of civil procedure just to avoid ruling on it? And DOJ whistleblower Erez Reuveni is dropping receipts! He's got all the texts and emails that prove Trump's henchman Emil Bove ordered the DOJ to defy cour…
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Ep 148 — Trump Cancels Laws…For His Friends And Donors
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45:45Mike Lindell's sparklemagic lawyers find out that sometimes ChatGPT ends with Rule 11. Then we visit Elon Musk and Sam Altman for a lesson in civil procedure. After that Andrew and Liz explain how Trump can't actually un-ban TikTok via presidential edict and break down the latest Supreme Court efforts to burn down the judiciary. Plus for subscriber…
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We may not know how to fix America, but we can tell you the law of fireworks! Plus the latest on Kilmar Abrego Garcia and what it tells us about how Homeland Security is carrying out Trump's deportation regime. Plus, Trump's lawyers are learning so much about civil procedure by getting their asses kicked all over Iowa. Links: Hundreds of Jan 6ers A…
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Ep 146 — The Conservative Justices Seize Power
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58:05The Supreme Court's last day of the term was an exercise of raw power. The six conservative justices gave lower courts the back of their hand, making clear that they — and only they! — will decide the law. Nationwide injunctions are out, and so is stare decisis. Andrew and Liz will break down the power grab, along with Mahmoud v. Taylor, in which t…
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Ep 145 — SCOTUS Aims For Photo Finish … Gives Us Disaster Porn
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1:04:13The Trump administration's war on the judiciary continues, and this time he's suing judges. Also, he's trying to install his henchman Emil Bove in the Third Circuit as a reward for burning down the firewall between the White House and the DOJ. Luckily SCOTUS is distracting us by cramming as many horrible decisions as possible into the last two days…
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Ep 144 — Don't Make Us Side With Disney And Harvard
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1:01:38The Supreme Court's howler monkey wing greenlights Trump's third country renditions without notice and cuts the legs out from underneath the entire federal judiciary. So much for CJ Roberts, protector of the courts! And the Ninth Circuit lets Trump steal California's National Guard for a fictitious emergency. In better news, Harvard gets an injunct…
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This week the Supreme Court's conservatives greenlit an all-out attack on trans kids and their healthcare. So much for parents' rights! At least Alex Jones is still bankrupt. And the trustee in his bankruptcy case just sued him to claw back millions of dollars in "fraudulent" transfers to his friends and family. Plus, we'll discuss NYC Comptroller …
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Ep 142 — Who Is The Administrator of DOGE (feat. Anna Bower)
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1:09:08Liz and Andrew welcome Lawfare's Anna Bower back to the show to discuss her singular obsession: who is the administrator of DOGE? Find out why that's still a critical question and what discovering the answer might mean in terms of undoing policy, preserving records, and more. Links: Who Is The Administrator of DOGE, by Anna Bower https://www.lawfar…
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Ep 141 — California to Trump: DROP DEAD
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1:04:41A federal judge has ruled that Donald Trump illegally seized control of the California National Guard. We tell you everything that means and what happens next. Also, Kilmar Abrego Garcia is home and facing trumped-up charges in Tennessee. And Alina Habba is still cosplaying as a prosecutor, and this time she's decided to try and indict a sitting me…
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The Trump administration is trying to provoke a riot in California by "federalizing" the National Guard. We'll tell you what that means and what legal recourse blue states and cities have to resist being occupied by the military. Plus, it turns out that the Trump administration could facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia after all, it just …
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Ep 139 — You Get A Civ Pro, And You Get A Civ Pro…
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1:03:01Justin Baldoni's lawyers are wilding out, the Justice Department is suing to purge North Carolina's voter rolls, and Pillow Pumper Mike Lindell is teaching us about journalism shield laws. And for subscribers: Have Trump's minions discovered one weird trick that will allow them to steal Congress's tariff authority? Links: Kingdom v. Trump https://w…
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Ep 138 — Trump Admin Courts Contempt In Every Court At Once
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1:00:03The Trump Administration is putting the Justice Department in a terrible bind. DOJ lawyers can tell judges the truth and admit that the government is deliberately violating court orders. Or they can bob and weave and prevaricate and cross their fingers and hope it all comes out okay. But that strategy is running into a brick wall as courts are incr…
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Ep 137 — Trump's Bad Week In All The Courts
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1:09:19This week Trump got his ass kicked in courts no one's ever heard of! From tariffs to immigration, Harvard to WilmerHale, it's been a week of losing bigly. Andrew and Liz will break it down and explain what's next. Links: Harvard College v. Department of Health and Human Services [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921…
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Ep 136 — Trump Announces Plan To Break Law. Gets Immediately Enjoined. Again.
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1:00:22President Trump's genius plan to announce that he's about to violate the First Amendment — and then do it! — runs into the judicial buzzsaw as two federal courts restrain his attacks on Harvard and the law firm Jenner & Block. And his campaign's lawsuit against Iowa pollster Ann Selzer continues to be a humiliating series of self-owns. But SCOTUS h…
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