We’re Ty & Lisa Kellogg—parents to three great kids: Nora, Milo, and June. Our daughters are neurotypical, and our son is autistic. Since Milo’s diagnosis in January 2023, we’ve been learning how to navigate parenting, family dynamics, and life in ways we never expected. Spoiler alert: We don’t have all the answers (to parenting or podcasting), but we’re figuring it out as we go. This show is our way of processing the highs and lows, sharing what’s real—grief, hope, fear, laughter—and connec ...
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Kia ora, you’ve joined the 'Ideas that Grow’ podcast - brought to you by Rural Leaders. In this series we’ll be drawing on the insights from innovative rural leaders, to help plant ideas that grow, so our regions can flourish. Ideas That Grow is presented in association with Farmer's Weekly. All guests are arranged by Rural Leaders, whose mission is to grow world class leaders through the Nuffield NZ Farming Scholarship and Kellogg Rural Leadership programme.
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Thomas Holmes | Insight into arable’s future in Canterbury
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17:32Thomas Holmes is an arable farmer and a 2024 Kellogg Scholar. In this podcast he talks to Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, about his family farm’s evolution, overseas experience, his Kellogg research report and his Kellogg experience. Thomas unpacks his report’s ‘what next’ view of arable farming in Canterbury. He discusses profitabili…
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A summer evening at the pool brought to you by lots of laughter, lots of splashing... and one small, blue plastic bottle. In this episode, we talk about what it means to show up in a community space with Milo, how quickly moments can shift, and why we keep coming back, despite the unpredictability. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email u…
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Has your child ever become fixated on a particular piece of clothing? We've been through this - many times - with Milo. We're talking about what these experiences have taught us about comfort and control, and why sometimes the easiest answer is just…let him wear the shirt. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at beyondthelabel24@gmai…
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Today we're taking a trip to - you guessed it - the grocery store. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at [email protected] Thank you to our friend Tom Evanchuck for the use of his song, "Sunshine," as our theme music. Follow Tom on Spotify. Thank you for being here!By Ty & Lisa Kellogg
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We're sharing what back-to-school looks like in our family — the excitement and the anxiety that comes with change. Nora is thrilled to be in second grade, June is starting her second year of preschool, and Milo is beginning first grade. We talk about the mix of pride, grief, and worry that comes with parenting through transitions, and what it feel…
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We’re exploring what success looks like as parents of an autistic, developmentally delayed child. When your child is on their own timeline and you’re feeling lost, how do you know you’re still on the right path? Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at [email protected] Thank you to our friend Tom Evanchuck for the use of his…
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The high of watching your son be greeted by a friend you didn’t know existed. The low of watching him get made fun of minutes later. All in the span of 10 minutes at a soccer game. Parenting an autistic child with cognitive delays requires a certain level of grit—and constant decisions about when to step in, and when to let things be. If your child…
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Richard Dawkins | A farmer’s rural leadership journey
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16:19In this episode of Ideas That Grow, Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, talks to Richard Dawkins, 2023 Kellogg Scholar and Marlborough sheep and beef farmer. He is also the new meat and wool chair for Federated Farmers. Richard discusses his family’s diverse 602-hectare farm operation, which includes sheep, cattle, forestry, and viticultu…
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A sunny beach day. A therapy pickup that should have been routine. Sometimes the smallest triggers can spark the biggest reactions—and that's just life with autism. In this episode, Lisa shares two recent moments that capture the whiplash of parenting a child with autism: how quickly things can shift from calm to chaos, and back again. From a covet…
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If you’ve ever taken a beach trip with little kids, you know how it goes—kids make fast friends in the waves or at the pool, spend a few days playing together, and then part ways without much ceremony. Everyone goes home. But for Milo, who’s autistic and often struggles to connect with peers, this kind of easy, spontaneous friendship hasn’t come ea…
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To Milo’s delight (thanks, Daniel Tiger), we went on a family trip! We spent a sunny week in Myrtle Beach, bouncing between the pool and the beach, and all our kids had a blast. In this episode, we share why we feel comfortable calling this trip “easy” — and how it compares to last year’s much tougher experience with Milo. Traveling with an autisti…
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Hugh Ritchie | Leadership, innovating in arable – and Nuffield
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14:12In this podcast, Hugh Ritchie, 2000 Nuffield Scholar and Hawke’s Bay farmer, shares his leadership journey and insights with Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson. Hugh discusses growing Drumpeel Farms into a diverse 2000-hectare operation, the impact of his Nuffield experience on his personal growth, and on irrigation and strip tillage and t…
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In this episode, we’re looking back on Milo’s 2.5 years of preschool—how it began, what we learned, and how it shaped the next phase of our journey. From that first January morning drop-off to his final days in the preschool classroom, we share the highs and lows: navigating classroom changes, speech therapy, behavioral supports, and the big moment…
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In the summer of 2021, just weeks after moving into our new home, we sat down with a service coordinator from Ohio’s Help Me Grow Early Intervention program. It was the first time we fully acknowledged Milo’s developmental delays—and the first time we reached out for help. In this episode, we walk through what that process looked like for our famil…
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Days after moving into our new home, Milo — just 2 years old — pushed over a heavy wooden chair, and something in us shifted. In this episode, we reflect on the early signs that something deeper was going on, the stress that surrounded that season, and the moment we finally reached out for help. Over the next several episodes, we’ll continue unpack…
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Do you remember your earliest friend? One of the hardest things for us as parents is to witness how hard it can be for Milo to connect with other kids his age. He's increasingly eager and friendly and aware, but the communication gap is always there. What will friendship look like for Milo? Will it ever get easier? Spoiler alert - we don't know - b…
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Milo is getting ready to say goodbye to the early learning center where he began school-based services in 2022—and it’s bringing up a lot of emotions. In this episode, we’re sharing the highs and lows of his kindergarten year, and how we're feeling going into the summer. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at beyondthelabel24@gmail.…
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Here’s something we’ve often wished was easier with our kids: just going outside. In this episode, we go back to a beautiful March evening when Milo couldn’t make sense of what we were doing—or what his sisters were doing—and we couldn’t figure out why everything felt so hard. We also share a few moments since then that have really surprised us. Fo…
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Jenni Vernon | Underestimating the power of face-to-face communication
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15:30Jenni Vernon, 1994 Nuffield Scholar, farmer and director, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about her leadership journey, her Nuffield experience, research, and on not underestimating the power of face-to-face communication in a sometimes-disconnected social media age.By NZ Rural Leaders
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Let's talk about the awkward, emotional, and often unspoken moments that can come with raising a neurodivergent child. Lisa shares a story she still replays years later and together we unpack the weight of apology, public perception, and the struggle between explaining and simply existing. If you've ever wrestled with whether to say "I'm sorry" or …
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We’re talking about those rare moments when you meet people who just get it. From a chance connection at a splash pad to an unexpected friendship formed after a cookie decorating class, we share a few times when we felt truly seen as parents of a neurodivergent kiddo. Finding new friendships as adults just in general isn’t easy — it takes effort, t…
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Not all milestones are big and flashy. In this episode, we reflect on 9 recent glimmers—small moments that brought us peace and reminded us how far Milo has come. From getting excited about dinner to thoughtfully picking out gifts for his sisters, each glimmer offers a glimpse into Milo’s world and the quiet, powerful progress he’s making. In honor…
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Milo was diagnosed with autism the month after his fourth birthday. As the parents of a young neurodivergent child, we will make it to the "other side" of challenges over and over again - just like we made it to the other side of the autism diagnostic process. Now, 2+ years removed from receiving Milo's diagnosis, we're sharing how we got there. Wh…
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Ever been in a season where sleep just... disappeared? In this episode, we’re sharing what it was like during a stretch of nearly six months when Milo couldn’t fall asleep for hours—and still managed to wake up before sunrise. We tried everything, and nothing worked… until two yellow blankets changed the game. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel…
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When Milo was diagnosed with autism just weeks after turning 4, and as his behaviors became more challenging, I struggled with envy toward other families. Sometimes, I still do. It’s not rational. I know every family has its own challenges, whether we see them or not. But it’s real. And we’re talking about it in this episode. Follow us on Instagram…
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Phil Weir |The positive value industry good brings to farming
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17:31Phil Weir, 2020 Nuffield Scholar, farmer, farmer director for BLNZ and associate director for AGMARDT, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about the positive value industry good brings to farming. Phil also talks through some of the challenges and opportunities for sheep and beef farming and how his Nuffield Scholarship and researc…
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June & Milo. June is a bright, animated, and funny kid—and extremely stubborn. As the quintessential little sister, she wants Milo's attention, and she doesn’t care how she gets it. While we’ve been working on behavioral interventions for Milo at home and school, June and her four-year-old antagonizing ways have been... a challenge. They are at onc…
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Nora & Milo. They are 16 months apart, now ages 7 and 6. Since they were very young, they've had a special relationship. Nora is the proud big sister. Her love and affection for Milo is one of his greatest blessings - but we have to acknowledge that being his sister is not always easy. Sibling dynamics, particularly the siblings of kids with differ…
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When it comes to any special event, the decision of whether or not to go as a whole family, with Milo in tow, is carefully made. That was definitely true as we planned for a fall festival at a local farm in support of Nora's school. Go back in time with us to a beautiful Friday night last October... Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email …
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We're navigating a crowded Costco when Milo spots it: the overflowing rack of Spider-Man costumes. "That one!" he says, very matter-of-factly - and so we add it to the cart. It may seem like a simple interaction, but it was much more than that. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at [email protected] Thank you to our friend…
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Lisa Lunn | Genetic technologies in agriculture
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12:01In this Ideas that Grow podcast, Lisa Lunn, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, Managing Editor at Farmers Weekly about her Kellogg research into the use of genetic technologies in agriculture. Lisa’s research presents a balanced view that unpacks the challenges, and the opportunities genetic technologies offer the food and fibre sector.…
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Turkey calls and SOS texts: We're going back to a day last May when Ty had a plan for a much-needed break - and to enjoy a hobby he loves. When you're in the thick of "the hard," how do you find a way to regroup and refresh? And what if you can't? Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at [email protected] Thank you to our fri…
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So often, two things can be true at the same time. That's the case with Milo's birthday. We feel so grateful for him, and for being able to watch him grow! But anticipating his birthday can make us feel a little bit sad. We're digging into our feelings on this episode - as well as talking about some of our favorite Milo moments from the last year. …
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Milo has a fantastic imagination: An orange, knit hat is one of his go-to items to pretend to be Danny Go. But if you try to reason with him that the hat is not a great idea to wear outside on a warm fall day, you're not likely to win. And so, when we set out on a family walk on the trail in Cuyahoga Valley National Park, Milo's hat was firmly in p…
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Last year at this time, our family was reeling. Our son, Milo, had been going on months of little sleep, struggling to go to bed and then waking before dawn, his anxiety pulsing. We were a year removed from his autism diagnosis in January 2023, but no closer to understanding how to best meet his needs. And then - his behaviors worsened. Milo became…
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Dave Nuku | Adopting a philosophy of kaitiakitanga in business
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25:35In this Ideas that Grow podcast, Dave Nuku, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, managing editor at Farmers Weekly, about his work with Ngamanawa Incorporation, his Kellogg experience, and adopting a philosophy of kaitiakitanga in business.By NZ Rural Leaders
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Esther Donkersloot | Breeding heat tolerant cows
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14:00In this podcast, Esther Donkersloot, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, managing editor at Farmers Weekly, about her research with LIC on breeding heat tolerant cows. Esther came to New Zealand to do her Masters’ thesis and never left. Good thing too. Having studied at the prestigious Wageningen University, she has steadily built a career…
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Jack Cocks | Resilience in the face of adversity
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13:40Jack Cocks, 2021 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about his research into resilience in the face of adversity. Jack, who works on Mt. Nicholas Station with his family, faced his own adversity in the form of a brain aneurysm that sparked a recovery journey spanning 15 surgeries over six years. He shares the three…
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Lisa Rogers | Developing leaders in the food and fibre sector
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12:47In this episode, Lisa Rogers, Rural Leaders CEO, talks to host Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, about the recently released report ‘A Path to Realising Leadership Potential in Aotearoa NZ’s Food and Fibre Sector’, along with its leadership development framework, and the leadership programmes serving as key tools for building more and e…
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Rachel Baker | Nuffield insights from across the globe
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17:50Halfway through the 2024 Scholarship Programme, Scholar Rachel Baker gives us a unique perspective from inside Nuffield. Rachel speaks with Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, about some of the similarities and differences between the farming systems in the countries visited so far with New Zealand’s. She discusses insights from Indonesia…
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Campbell Parker | Leading with authenticity in a fast-changing sector
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15:03Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson speaks to Campbell Parker, chief executive officer at DairyNZ. Campbell discusses his involvement with the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme and how leading with authenticity can go a long way to helping us all achieve big things in a time of rapid change.…
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Jen Corkran | Trust, truth and how we learn
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15:10Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson speaks to Jen Corkran, senior animal protein analyst at Rabobank and a 2023 Kellogg Scholar. Jen discusses her day job to provide red meat insights to clients and farmers. She also unpacks what her Kellogg research tells us about trust, truth and the way farmers take on information.…
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Dr Matt Sowcik – Humility and finding a common purpose
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15:48Dr Matt Sowcik is currently on sabbatical from his role as Associate Professor in the Department of Agricultural Education and leadership at University of Florida. As part of his tour, he joined the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme in Lincoln. He spoke to Scholars (and Bryan Gibson) about the power of humility in leadership and its role in workin…
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Emma Crutchley - Finding the sheep and beef value-add
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20:37Emma Crutchley, 2018 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor about some of the challenges sheep and beef farming faces in a water-short region, her Kellogg research, the Value Chain Innovation Programme, and the work being done on ‘Puketoi’ to find the value-add.By NZ Rural Leaders
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In an innovation story that covers the journey from an idea to the challenges of development, and to implementation. Julia Galwey, 2020 Kellogg Scholar, talks about Pearl Veal NZ, a new sustainable utilisation of the bobby calf resource. Pearl Veal NZ was the winner of the Silver Fern Farms Market Leader Award at the 2023 Beef+LambNZ Awards.…
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Dr Alison Stewart – FAR and the role of arable systems in agriculture
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17:30In this podcast, Dr Alison Stewart, CEO at the Foundation for Arable Research, talks with Farmers Weekly's Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about the role of arable in agriculture, her role at FAR and delivering research that benefits growers. Dr Stewart also discusses her involvement with the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme and the importance of …
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Julian Reti Kaukau – Bridging the connection between our people and the whenua
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18:40In this podcast, Julian Reti Kaukau, 2021 Kellogg Scholar, talks with Farmers Weekly's Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about his Kellogg research and to share insights from his work With MPI Māori Agribusiness. In reference to his research, Julian reflects on the historic prowess of the Waikato Maniapoto Māori in the Agriculture and Horticulture sec…
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Dan Eb – Moving to citizen-connected food and farming.
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22:40In this podcast, Dan Eb, 2021 Nuffield Scholar talks to Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson about the role of farming in an increasingly urbanised society. How might a future might look if we move to a food and farming system in New Zealand that works beyond only producing food, a system that not only benefits producers but every kiwi. Dan…
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Mel Poulton - Transformation before transaction: The potential of NZ’s Food and Fibre IP.
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19:33Mel Poulton, farmer, and 2014 Nuffield Scholar, talks to Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about the opportunity that remains to extract ongoing value from our sector IP, building and learning together with nations developing agriculture, and building deeper trading relationships based on transformation before transaction.…
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Hamish Marr - Glyphosate, Nuffield, and cropping today.
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16:28In this podcast Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, talks to Hamish Marr, 2019 Nuffield Scholar about his Nuffield research on glyphosate, New Zealand’s use of it as a strategic farming tool, and some of the challenges arable farmers are facing today. To read more about Hamish's work, head to: https://ruralleaders.co.nz/nuffield-scholars/…
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