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What if you could have one conversation with your idol, what would you ask? Irene hosts a show with women whom she respects, admires, and looks up to. When i grow up i wanna be you, but how did you become you and what did you learn along the way?
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Not About You

Levi Weinhagen

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Not About You is a podcast about identity and social justice. I’m the producer and host of the show and I wanted to make a show where a white, straight, cis-gendered man (that’s me) connected with folks with different lived experiences from my own about the ways parts of their identities bump up against injustices. We’ll be talking about race, gender, religion, representation, protests, politics, relationships and more. My hope is that this series leads to more conversation and interaction. ...
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“I strongly believe that what is true for me doesn’t necessarily mean that the opposite is false for another person.” Enzi Tanner is a Community Safety Organizer at Jewish Community Action(JCA). He's also a licensed social worker who has spent the past two decades focused on police brutality & police violence. In this episode, Enzi talks about the …
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“Why are you Korean-American and from Minnesota?” Naomi Ko is a Filmmaker, Writer, Actor, Comedy Maker, a Sundance Fellow & Bush Fellow. She is a co-founder of APIA MN Film Collective + Funny Asian Women Kollective (FAWK). She gets on a Zoom call with Levi to talk about perceptions inside and outside of Asian-American communities. They talk comedy,…
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Irene welcomes Susan Shehata! They talk about discovering a love of theater and the path that can open up. Susan also shares how she works on being present an dhow that brings her joy. Plus, she shares ways she works with clients to help them get unstuck. Susan Shehata, also known as The Space Guru™, is a nationally known Wellness Educator and Crea…
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“The only way we can understand where we are, who we are, and what we are, is to look at the past and to pull all those threads and see how they’re all connected.” Irene welcomes Megan Dowd. Megan shares her early ambition to be a child actor on the television show 'Wishbone' and how that may have led to pursuing classical acting school. They also …
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“I don’t want to take the fun out of what I do because then I feel like its soulless.” Irene welcomes the delightful Anahita Champion to the show. They talk about getting into the career you thought you wanted and realizing it didn't fit. They also talk about finding joy and remembering that you are enough just as you are. Anahita Champion is an On…
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"I only listen to happy songs!" Irene welcomes improvisor & podcaster Maria Bartholdi! They talk about wanting to make things that cause an emotional response, the power of shifter from fear to what's possible, and Maria talks about becoming who she wants to be in the world. Maria Bartholdi is a freelance editor, videographer, producer, host, espor…
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“It can’t just be money. It can’t just be work. It can’t just be hustle. Because that is exhausting.” Irene welcomes Hannah Wydeven. Together, Irene & Hannah talk about wanting to be viewed as competent, the expectations people do and don't have for women, and what it takes to be your own boss. Hannah Wydeven is an educator and owner of Solcana Fit…
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Irene welcomes Andrea Pérez-Maikkula! They talk about being from Puerto Rico, doing health relief work in Haiti, and why names matter. (pronunciation tip: Ahn – DRE – uh / flip or roll the r if you can) Andrea Pérez-Maikkula is a multilingual global health professional with over a decade of experience in intercultural facilitation, community engage…
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Irene welcomes Shanan Custer! Irene + Shanan talk about the power of slowing down and really thinking about what does or does not bring joy. Shanan talks about finding her voice, hearing her writing performed on stage, and the joy of Harry Styles and Rosemary Clooney. Shanan is an actor, writer, director, improvisor, educator, and voracious reader.…
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“Some of the best things that have happened in my life are things I never anticipated.” Irene welcomes Nausheena to talk about growing up without seeing Muslim women in media or leadership roles. Nausheena talks about having immigrant parents, teaching Muslim women to organize and engage politically, they both talk about reacting to what other peop…
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Irene welcomes Sam Baker Harris! Sam talks about finding her people in college and wanting to build a life that always has art at the center. They also talk about the joy of making people laugh, the importance of processing emotions through a hot bath, and what it takes to really find yourself. Sam Baker Harris an actor, director, improviser, coach…
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“I still don’t think I have become something. I am many somethings.” Irene welcomes printmaker and graphic designer Elana Schwartzman. Elana talks about being drawn to letterpress printmaking & how she's embraced the ability to organize & work for social justice through her letterpress. They also talk about Lois Lane, making big decisions, & how to…
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“I used to take a lot of joy in being rootless and I’m all about the roots now.” Irene welcomes Isabel Nelson. They talk about the journey Isabel is on as an artist, student, mother, administrator, community member, and white person. Isabel talks about big and small decisions that have impacted her life and they both talk about being emotionally ex…
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Irene welcome singer, songwriter, musician, and actor Leslie Vincent. They talk about living dreams, finding joy in day jobs, and the surprising ways new doors can open when you make new decisions. Leslie Vincent is an actor, singer, and musician who grew up across the East Coast and the UK, thanks to the US military. After seeing her first musical…
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"Not everyone deserves the full me." Irene welcome Tyrai to chat about going from being a classroom teacher to lead adults in learning about racism and sexism. Tyrai talks about the importance of the WNBA when she was a young basketball player, coming out to herself and her mother, and the joy she gets from being a parent. Tyrai Bronson-Pruitt is t…
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"I'm neither a waif nor a wafer." Irene closes out 2020 by chatting with her mom, Laura Zabel. Laura Zabel is the Executive Director of Springboard for the Arts. She is also a frequent speaker on arts and community development at convenings such as the Aspen Ideas Festival, Urban Land Institute and Americans for the Arts. She was a 2014 Bush Founda…
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Irene welcomes Dana Nelson to talk all about having big feelings, building family, and the importance of laughter. Dana Nelson is an innovative leader with a track record for identifying emerging ideas and nurturing their growth. Demonstrated ability to lead highly visible campaigns, large national startup organizations and manage multiple stakehol…
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“The question behind every question we ask is, “am I normal, am I okay.” Irene welcomes author, podcaster, & Still Kickin' founder Nora McInerny onto the show. They talk about Nora's dreams of becoming Katie Couric or F. Scott Fitzgerald, the weirdness or careers, handling emotions, and how to not restrict your own access to joy. Nora McInerny has …
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“Being an artist helps you get free and free other people.” Irene welcomes Docta E aka Dr. Elaine Richardson to talk about finding joy in singing, the endless journey towards self-love, and what it means to be a black woman in America. Elaine Richardson (aka Dr. E) was born in Cleveland, Ohio. An inspirational Ohio State University professor of edu…
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“If I want to be a middle-aged woman dressed as a unicorn, I can just do that!” Irene talks with Allison about making decisions, finding joy, and being vulnerable. Allison talks about traveling, creating spaces for art, and why it is so important to be yourself. Allison Broeren is a storytelling, theater owner, marketer, and non-profit director. If…
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“Times when I feel most accomplished are when I see former students accomplishing their goals.” Irene talks with Tish Jones about making decisions, getting inspired, standing inside integrity, and finding joy. Founder & Executive Director of TruArtSpeaks, Tish Jones is a poet, performer, educator and organizer from Saint Paul, Minnesota. She has pe…
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“I think one of the things that I continue to work at… is being able to find joy in other people’s joy.” Laura Zimmermann is a writer, a storyteller, and a maker of cheesecakes. You might find her at a softball game, a jazz concert, or a nonprofit board meeting, but you'll never find her on a ladder or entering a triathlon. She is a multi-time winn…
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“It’s kind of like the older I get the more boring my aspirations get." Ashley Fairbanks is an Anishinaabe artist, organizer and creative director. A citizen of the White Earth Nation, born and raised in Minneapolis, Ashley graduated from Minneapolis South High School and studied Ojibwe language and political science at the University of Minnesota.…
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Resmaa Menakem released a racialized trauma e-course in 2019 to work in concert with 'My Grandmother's Hands.' This is a reissue of his appearance in 2018 with a brief new opening about the e-course. “For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Han…
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“When white people make roses, they’re just f***ing roses!” On this episode, TK Dutes talks about code switching, producing radio, what it means to be professional and the realities of living your dream. Keisha TK Dutes is a graduate of CUNY Brooklyn College with a degree in TV/Radio. Throughout her college career, she found her niche in college ra…
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“There’s a big difference between lived equality and legal equality.” Nancy has been locally and nationally recognized for her role as owner and CEO of Clockwork. She is co-author of “Interactive Project Management: Pixels, People, and Process” (New Riders, 2012) and author of the upcoming book, “How to Win at Business by Being Nice to Humans.” She…
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“Health is not a moral imperative.” On this episode, fat feminist Cat Polivoda delves into body positivity, fat advocacy and what it takes to run her own business. She also talks about being a joyous person and explains what happens when we conflate thinness with health. Cat Polivoda owns Cake Plus-Size Resale - a body positive, plus-size thrift sh…
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“Just because it’s journalism doesn’t mean it has to be unattractive. It can feel good, too.” Filiberto Nolasco Gomez grew up in a working-class Mexican community in Eastern Los Angeles. On this episode of the podcast, he talks about how much his name means to him and how challenging it seems to be for folks to pronounce it correctly. He also talks…
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“For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Hands,' including the healing needed around racialized trauma, the different approaches needed for different bodies, and whose responsibility it is to engage with the work of racial and social justice. R…
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“My Thai-ness or sense of Thai identity is not up for anyone else to quantify based on how white I seem.” Tricia Heuring talks about being "racially ambiguous" and "automatically American." She shares her culture shock from arriving in the US at 18 having learned about her own American culture largely through television and American cultural items …
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This episode features Ashley Fairbanks talking about growing up poor, being Anishinaabe and whether or not there’s a right way to be native. Ashley talks about the relationship between art and activism and she shares where her confidence comes from. Ashley Fairbanks is an Anishinaabe artist, organizer, and digital strategist. As an interdisciplinar…
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Carin Mrotz presented this Yom Kippur sermon in Minneapolis at the Shir Tikvah Synagogue in 2017 The text as prepared for delivery: In preparing, I asked my self: What do I want to say to you. What do I need you to know, today, on Yom Kippur. And who am I to tell you? I think about that a lot – who am I in relation to this congregation, this commun…
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This episode features three conversations about how white folks can engage with themselves and the world in response to racism and anti-semitism. This is a response to the events in Charlottesville on August 12, 2017, as well as so many other things happening in the United States. These conversations were recorded in September of 2017. The guests f…
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“No one is obligated to be an educator about their identity.” Artist Rebecca Kling talks about issues surrounding gender, bathroom use and anti trans activism. She talks about being a transgender activist and educator. Rebecca unpacks the idea of reciprocity and whether someone is or isn't obligated to teach about their identity. She shares persona…
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“It is difficult to dismantle a system that is invisible to you.” Bharti Wahi talks about frequently dealing with the question, "what are you?" and where that question comes from. She talks about growing up in rural Minnesota with immigrant parents from Canada and Southeast Asia. Bharti talks about systemic oppression and the challenges in the way …
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"People are trying to figure out how to categorize you and I think that's just a human thing." 'Pogi' talks about being an actor of color and how that makes him wonder about parts he does or doesn't get. He talks about people assume he speaks Spanish because of how he looks even though he's a Filipino-American. He talks about identifying outside of…
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PH Copeland shares her experience as a Pan-African woman from North Minneapolis building power through community organizing. She shares about the way larger women are treated and talked to, the way people attempt to complement and connect that can lead to unintended harm. And she talks about the large and small ways people can dismantle oppressive …
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"I have decided I don't care enough to be normal." On this episode, Jess Banks talks about tracing her inability to ignore injustice back to childhood and how that set her apart from her family. She shares openly her struggles with chronic pain and what it's like to being a parent with autism raising a child with autism. Jess also talks about why s…
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“If it has to get aggressive in a way of defending myself or others, I’m absolutely okay with that.” Why does representation matter on film, in art and in life? Documentary filmmaker, film programmer and arts advocate Kareem Tabsch answers this question and so many others. Kareem talks about being a first generation American to Lebanese and Latino …
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