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The Immeasurable Podcast

Krishnamurti Center, Ojai, CA

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The Immeasurable is dedicated to exploring the essential questions of our existence; who we are and where we are going. The intent is to inspire listeners to question assumptions of the mind, offering opportunities to ask deep questions into common life themes that are superficially accepted. We take no ideological positions except to encourage the spirit of inquiry. We aim to provide an in-depth look at dialogue and exploration around Krishnamurti’s teachings. There will be interviews of pe ...
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The East-West Psychology Podcast

Jonathan Kay and Stephen Julich

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The East-West Psychology Podcast: Exploring global intersectionality of spirituality, psychology and philosophy. East-West Psychology is a department in the School of Consciousness and Transformation at the California Institute of Integral Studies. A multidisciplinary hub for engaged dialogue among Eastern, Western, and Earth-based psychologies, along with world psychospiritual traditions. Join our hosts, Jonathan Kay and Stephen Julich and their guests as they delve into the intersection of ...
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In this episode, “Truth is a Pathless Land,” we speak with Transformative Inquiry Program faculty member Connie Jones to explore the micropolitical stakes of revolutionary spirituality through Krishnamurti’s challenge to religious prescription, psychological conditioning, and egoic identification. We discuss techniqueless meditation, the primacy of…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the fourth discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 5: Death Series: Can Humanity Change? Q: Is there life after dea…
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In this 50th episode, your hosts, Jonathan Kay and Stephen Julich, reflect on the intersections that shape the evolving path of the scholar-practitioner. This episode traces a search for wholeness through three vital crossings: • the intersection of thinking and doing, where lived practice challenges the silos of classical knowledge production; the…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the fourth discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 4: Truth Series: Can Humanity Change? Q: Is there a difference b…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the third discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978-79 - Buddhist Scholars Discussion 3 - Does Free Will Exist? Series: Can Humani…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the second discussion of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 2: Can We Live Without Identifying? Series: Can Humanity Change?…
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In this podcast we meet CIIS faculty member Sundari Johansen and speak about how her academic background in religious studies informs the critical perspective and frameworks she brings into her course on Hindu Tantra. We discuss research as deep listening and self-transformation, and get into the problems of traditional western ethnographic methodo…
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Today we speak with Lou Florez about his life as a diviner and metaphysical reader who facilitates spiritual connectivity and transformational empowerment throughout his myriad roles as a Priest, lecturer, author, medicine maker, and activist. We speak about afro-carribean diasporic magical traditions and the problems of their systemic exclusion in…
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In this episode we meet Krysti Keener, a student in the East-West Psychology/MFA Masters Program, and hear of how she came to cultivate a transformative and healing artistic practice through opening to the liminal power of found objects. We discuss the problem of how we conventionally frame artistic practice and identity in relation to the culture …
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights the first part of a five-part series titled Can Humanity Change? This series was recorded in 1978 at Brockwood Park, where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Buddhist scholars. J. Krishnamurti with Buddhist Scholars - Brockwood Park 1978 - Discussion 1: Are You Not Saying What the Buddha Said? Series: Can Humanity Change…
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In this podcast we meet Matt Segall, core faculty in the Philosophy, Cosmology and Consciousness Program at CIIS. We discuss the need for new methods of research beyond the limits of siloed disciplines producing interdisciplinary knowledge. In research, Matt speaks of the importance of disclosing one’s own metaphysical groundings and epistemologica…
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Today we speak to East-West Psychology adjunct faculty Susana Bustos, about growing up in Chile and how her roots in music and psychology lead her to study music therapy. We then discuss how South American Indigenous healing practices can be considered as a forms of earth-bound spirituality, and how that gives rise to alternative notions of relatio…
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In this podcast we meet CIIS student Lucian Dante Lazar to discuss his research at the intersections of spirituality and the arts, aiming towards the cultivation of a holistic science of creative becoming inspired by Rudolf Steiner’s Anthroposophy. We discuss esoteric approaches towards a pedagogy of creative education based upon experimental metho…
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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from a talk titled “War and Peace” at the 2022 KFA May Gathering. Despite the persistent aspiration of every generation to achieve world peace and end war, violence, and terror, these conflicts continue unabated. Most people envision a peaceful world for their children, yet the cycle of v…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a the last part of a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visi…
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In this episode we meet Preston Vargas, the director of the Center for Black and Indigenous Praxis, and Deanna Jimenez, Assistant Professor in the Somatic Psychology Department and head of the Emerging Black Clinician Fellowship. We discuss strategies of navigating white academic space as a black scholar, the notion of bodies of culture, the import…
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In this episode we speak with EWP adjunct professor Dr. Butterfly, along with students, Tayina Fenelus and Cameron Rice, who both took his class on African Cosmologies last semester. We speak of intergenerational transfer of knowledge in African traditions, and other important ideas in African cosmologies such as consubstantiation, ritual, story an…
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In this episode, we speak to Cindy Shearer, head of the MFA, and Debashish Banerji, chair of East-West Psychology about how their ideas on the vision of interdisciplinary education and creative scholarship lead them to create joint EWP and MFA degrees, as well as creative pathway dissertation track. We speak about transdisciplinary methods of arts-…
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You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is part two of Stephen Smith's talk at the KFA’s 2020 Annual May Gathering. In this episode, Stephen is joined by Cory Fisher, the former Archives and Publishing Director of the KFA, and Jaap Sluitjer, the Executive Director of the KFA, in exploring the quiet mind. Stephen is a former educa…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk by Stephen Smith at the KFA’s 2020 Annual May Gathering. In this episode, Stephen explores the quiet mind. Stephen takes us on a journey through the intricate layers of consciousness, urging us to examine our fundamental perceptions and assumptions about reality. Through rigorous …
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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This episode is dedicated to introducing the South Asian Studies Association (SASA) and their annual academic conference being co-hosted by the Asian Contemplative and Transcultural Studies Concentration (ACTS) being held at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) on March 1st-3rd, 2024. We are joined by Chris Chapple, the president of …
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You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast and this episode is an exploration on education between Darcy Gray and Jaap Sluijter. Darcy Gray's interest in Krishnamurti's teachings began in his early twenties, leading him to join the Krishnamurti School in Ojai, California, shortly after its establishment in 1975. During his three-decade tenure at …
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Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode comes from discussions Krishnamurti had with teachers at Brockwood Park School, recorded in 1976. These dialogues were turned into a book called A Flame of Learning. In the previous episode, “Learning from Every Moment,” Leah and Pooja discuss similar themes. More specifically, they highlight how co…
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This episode we speak with Dr. Ananta Giri Kumar, a professor at the Madras Institute of Development Studies, who was recently a guest speaker at the conference hosted at CIIS called Sustainability and Contemplative Civilization: The Integral Vision of Sri Aurobindo. We will be joined by Hemalatha Swaminathan, an EWP Phd student, to discuss with An…
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You’re listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. Welcome to our new listeners and hello again to our returning subscribers. This is the second episode in which we explore education. In this episode, Leah Luong is joined by Pooja Dubey, who comes from Delhi and is a former student of Raj Ghat Beasent School, Varanasi. For the last few years, Pooja has …
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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This is a special podcast to introduce two upcoming sister conferences at California Institute of Integral Studies this September, to celebrate 150 Years of Sri Aurobindo, the pioneer of Integral Consciousness. The first conference is organized by the East-West Psychology Department (EWP) and the Asian Contemplative and Transcultural Studies concen…
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In this episode we speak with Philosophy, Cosmology and Consciousness core faculty, Jack Bagby about his engagement with the philosophy of music, from Socrates, to Schopenhauer, and Bergson. We discuss Jack’s recent PCC class called The Philosophy of Music and the Attunement of the Soul and dive into the complex ideas of these thinkers regarding th…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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In this episode we meet Joseph Loizzo, MD, PhD, who is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist and Columbia-trained Buddhist scholar with over forty years’ experience studying the beneficial effects of contemplative practices on healing, learning and development. Joe shares his story of founding the Nalanda Institute, in NYC, as an intersection between cont…
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This episode is a continuation of our conversation with ACTS student Devdip Ganguli. We discuss principals and politics of spiritual anarchy and Devdip speaks about Peter Heehs’ controversial book “The Lives of Sri Aurobindo”. Devdip discusses a new book he edited called “Reading Sri Aurobindo”, and also shares his academic projects related to Sri …
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In this episode, we meet ACTS student Devdip Ganguli and learn about his upbringing in the Sri Aurobindo Ashram. Devdip discusses his experiences growing up in an intentional yogic community and shares his perspectives on integral education, as both a student growing up in the ashram school, and as a teacher in the school for over a decade . This e…
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This episode is a continuation from our previous reading of Francesca Ferrando’s new text Existential Posthumanism: A Manifesto. We will take a deep dive into unpacking this text section by section, discussing it’s the main questions: When did existential posthumanism arise? What is existential posthumanism? How to enact existential posthumanism? W…
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Today’s podcast features a collective reading of Francesca Ferrando’s new text Existential Posthumanism: A Manifesto. It is set to a drone instrument called a sound bed, made up on a hundred strings, with live musical interludes played on the esraj by myself. The podcast ends with my own transcultural re-imagination of the jazz standard Nature Boy.…
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In episode 27, we met Dr. Sangeeta Sahi and discussed her innovative approaches to integrative health and wholeness, focusing on the individual. In this episode we extend the scope of the conversation to social, cultural and cosmic perspectives of integral evolution and spirituality. Sangeeta shares a visionary yogic experience by Mirra Alfassa, kn…
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In this episode we meet Swami Medhananda, ordained monk in the order of Sri Ramakrishna and Vivekananda. He is also an extremely well respected scholar working in the fields of cross-cultural philosophy and religious studies. Medhananda shares about his background as a cultural Indian born in the USA, and the journey which led him to become a monk …
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Understanding theories and notions of identity, self-making, personhood, transpersonal relationality between self and other, self and cosmos, are questions of central importance to the East-West Psychology department. Throughout history, cultures have come to define themselves through unique approaches to cultivating subjective knowledge as well as…
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In this episode we speak with East-West Psychology chair Debashish Banerji to discuss the foundations of a new concentration in the EWP department titled Asian Contemplative and Transcultural Studies (ACTS). Debashish shares his vision of a postcolonial pedagogy in which to ground this discourse, and we discuss how this concentration can situate ac…
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In this episode we meet Dr. Sangeeta Sahi, who during her medical training found that “scientifically unexplainable healing instances” lead her to formulate a framework called Integrative Medicine. Sangeeta shares how she arrived at the intersection of modern medicine and Sri Aurobindo’s Integral Yoga to formulate alternative and holistic healing m…
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In this episode we speak to Patrick Beldio, academic professor, sculptor, devotee of Mehar Baba and Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, about the intersection of theology and religious studies in his work. We discuss the nuances of the scholar-practitioner model of scholarship and how one can approach an integral pedagogy from this perspective. Stephen a…
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Today, the podcast starts with a prayer from our guest, Glenn Aparicio Parry, PhD (Humanities); East-West Psychology MA (both from CIIS), and now adjunct faculty at CIIS. Glenn speaks about his time as a student at CIIS in the 1980’s and shares ideas that have gone into his current EWP course Original Thinking: Land, Language, and Consciousness fro…
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The Immeasurable Podcast highlights a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for detai…
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This episode features a monologue by Jim Ryan, long time California Institute of Integral Studies faculty, about his journey to India which inspired him to do a PhD in Tamil Literature. He describes his cross-cultural journey into the heart of the Tamil culture and language, and shares the experiences which brought him to teach at CIIS. Jim reflect…
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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk titled “Facing a World in Crisis,” given by David Skitt at the Annual May Gathering in 2008. In his talk, David reflects on Krishnamurti’s statement “You are the world” as he discusses themes such as conflict, personal responsibility, and interconnectedness. The second part of the epi…
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