Best Kevin Werbach Podcasts (2025)

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Uthman Ali: Responsible AI in a Safety Culture 32:44

2d ago32:44

32:44

Host Kevin Werbach interviews Uthman Ali, Global Responsible AI Officer at BP, to delve into the complexities of implementing responsible AI practices within a global energy company. Ali emphasizes how the culture of safety in the industry influences BP's willingness to engage in AI governance. He discusses the necessity of embedding ethical AI pri…

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Karen Hao: Is Imperial AI Inevitable? 35:26

9d ago35:26

35:26

Kevin Werbach interviews journalist and author Karen Hao about her new book Empire of AI, which chronicles the rise of OpenAI and the broader implications of generative artificial intelligence. Hao reflects on how the ethical challenges of AI have evolved, noting the shift from concerns like data privacy and algorithmic bias to more complex issues …

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Jaime Banks: How Users Perceive AI Companions 29:53

16d ago29:53

29:53

AI companion applications, which create interactive personas for one-on-one conversations, are incredibly popular. However, they raise a number of challenging ethical, legal, and psychological questions. In this episode, Kevin Werbach speaks with researcher Jaime Banks about how users view their conversations with AI companions, and the implication…

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Kelly Trindel: AI Governance Across the Enterprise? All in a Day’s Work 36:32

23d ago36:32

36:32

In this episode, Kevin Werbach interviews Kelly Trindel, Head of Responsible AI at Workday. Although Trindel's team is housed within Workday’s legal department, it operates as a multidisciplinary group, bringing together legal, policy, data science, and product expertise. This structure helps ensure that responsible AI practices are integrated not …

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David Weinberger: How AI Challenges Our Fundamental Ideas 35:53

1M ago35:53

35:53

Professor Werbach interviews David Weinberger, author of several books and a long-time deep thinker on internet trends, about the broader implications of AI on how we understand and interact with the world. They examine the idea that throughout history, dominant technologies—like the printing press, the clock, or the computer—have subtly but profou…

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Ashley Casovan: From Privacy Practice to AI Governance 38:29

1M ago38:29

38:29

Professor Werbach talks with Ashley Casavan, Managing Director of the AI Governance Center at the IAPP, the global association for privacy professional and related roles. Ashley shares how privacy, data protection, and AI governance are converging, and why professionals must combine technical, policy, and risk expertise. They discuss efforts to bui…

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Lauren Wagner: The Potential of Private AI Governance 40:15

2M ago40:15

40:15

Kevin Werbach interviews Lauren Wagner, a builder and advocate for market-driven approaches to AI governance. Lauren shares insights from her experiences at Google and Meta, emphasizing the critical intersection of technology, policy, and trust-building. She describes the private AI governance model, and the incentives for private-sector incentives…

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Medha Bankhwal and Michael Chui: Implementing AI Trust 38:45

2M ago38:45

38:45

Kevin Werbach speaks with Medha Bankhwal and Michael Chui from QuantumBlack, the AI division of the global consulting firm McKinsey. They discuss how McKinsey's AI work has evolved from strategy consulting to hands-on implementation, with AI trust now embedded throughout their client engagements. Chui highlights what makes the current AI moment tra…

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Eric Bradlow: AI Goes to Business School 38:24

2M ago38:24

38:24

Kevin Werbach speaks with Eric Bradlow, Vice Dean of AI & Analytics at Wharton. Bradlow highlights the transformative impacts of AI from his perspective as an applied statistician and quantitative marketing expert. He describes the distinctive approach of Wharton's analytics program, and its recent evolution with the rise of AI. The conversation hi…

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Wendy Gonzalez: Managing the Humans in the AI Loop 35:22

6M ago35:22

35:22

This week, Kevin Werbach is joined by Wendy Gonzalez of Sama, to discuss the intersection of human judgment and artificial intelligence. Sama provides data annotation, testing, model fine-tuning, and related services for computer vision and generative AI. Kevin and Wendy review Sama's history and evolution, and then consider the challenges of maint…

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Jessica Lennard: AI Regulation as Part of a Growth Agenda 34:33

6M ago34:33

34:33

The UK is in a unique position in the global AI landscape. It is home to important AI development labs and corporate AI adopters, but its regulatory regime is distinct from both the US and the European Union. In this episode, Kevin Werbach sits down with Jessica Leonard, the Chief Strategy and External Affairs Officer at the UK's Competition and Ma…

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Tim O'Reilly: The Values of AI Disclosure 27:08

6M ago27:08

27:08

In this episode, Kevin speaks with with the influential tech thinker Tim O’Reilly, founder and CEO of O’Reilly Media and popularizer of terms such as open source and Web 2.0. O'Reilly, who co-leads the AI Disclosures Project at the Social Science Research Council, offers an insightful and historically-informed take on AI governance. Tim and Kevin f…

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Alice Xiang: Connecting Research and Practice for Responsible AI 35:26

7M ago35:26

35:26

Join Professor Werbach in his conversation with Alice Xiang, Global Head of AI Ethics at Sony and Lead Research Scientist at Sony AI. With both a research and corporate background, Alice provides an inside look at how her team integrates AI ethics across Sony's diverse business units. She explains how the evolving landscape of AI ethics is both a c…

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Krishna Gade: Observing AI Explainability...and Explaining AI Observability 38:05

7M ago38:05

38:05

Kevin Werbach speaks with Krishna Gade, founder and CEO of Fiddler AI, on the the state of explainability for AI models. One of the big challenges of contemporary AI is understanding just why a system generated a certain output. Fiddler is one of the startups offering tools that help developers and deployers of AI understand what exactly is going o…

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Angela Zhang: What’s Really Happening with AI (and AI Governance) in China 36:37

7M ago36:37

36:37

This week, Professor Werbach is joined by USC Law School professor Angela Zhang, an expert on China's approach to the technology sector. China is both one of the world's largest markets and home to some of the world's leading tech firms, as well as an active ecosystem of AI developers. Yet its relationship to the United States has become increasing…

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Shae Brown: AI Auditing Gets Real 35:09

7M ago35:09

35:09

Professor Werbach speaks with Shea Brown, founder of AI auditing firm BABL AI. Brown discusses how his work as an astrophysicist led him to and machine learning, and then to the challenge of evaluating AI systems. He explains the skills needed for effective AI auditing and what makes a robust AI audit. Kevin and Shae talk about the growing landscap…

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Kevin Bankston: The Value of Open AI Models 39:10

8M ago39:10

39:10

This week, Professor Werbach is joined by Kevin Bankston, Senior Advisor on AI Governance for the Center for Democracy & Technology, to discuss the benefits and risks of open weight frontier AI models. They discuss the meaning of open foundation models, how they relate to open source software, how such models could accelerate technological advancem…

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Lara Abrash: How Organizations Can Meet the AI Challenge 36:46

8M ago36:46

36:46

In this episode, Professor Kevin Werbach sits with Lara Abrash, Chair of Deloitte US. Lara and Kevin discuss the complexities of integrating generative AI systems into companies and aligning stakeholders in making AI trustworthy. They discuss how to address bias, and the ways Deloitte promotes trust throughout its organization. Lara explains the ro…

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Adam Thierer: Where AI Regulation Can Go Wrong 39:49

8M ago39:49

39:49

Professor Werbach speaks with Adam Thierer, senior fellow for Technology and Innovation at R Street Institute. Adam and Kevin highligh developments in AI regulation on the state, federal, and international scale, and discuss both the benefits and dangers of regulatory engagement in the area. They consider the notion of AI as a “field-of-fields,” an…

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Reggie Townsend: The Deliberate and Intentional Path to Trustworthy AI 37:15

8M ago37:15

37:15

In this episode, Kevin Werbach is joined by Reggie Townsend, VP of Data Ethics at SAS, an analytics software for business platform. Together they discuss SAS’s nearly 50-year long history of supporting business’s technology and the recent implementation of responsible AI initiatives. Reggie introduces model cards and the importance of variety in AI…

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Helen Toner: AI Safety in a World of Uncertainty 41:15

9M ago41:15

41:15

Join Professor Kevin Werbach in his discussion with Helen Toner, Director of Strategy and Foundational Research Grants at Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology. In this episode, Werbach and Toner discuss how the public views AI safety and ethics and both the positive and negative outcomes of advancements in AI. We discuss Toner’s…

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Nuala O'Connor: Frontline Human-Machine Interface at Walmart 34:16

11M ago34:16

34:16

Join Kevin and Nuala as they discuss Walmart's approach to AI governance, emphasizing the application of existing corporate principles to new technologies. She explains the Walmart Responsible AI Pledge, its collaborative creation process, and the importance of continuous monitoring to ensure AI tools align with corporate values. Nuala reveals her …

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Suresh Venkatasubramanian: Blueprints and Redesign: Academia to the White House and Back 35:22

11M ago35:22

35:22

Join Kevin and Suresh as they discuss the latest tools and frameworks that companies can use to effectively combat algorithmic bias, all while navigating the complexities of integrating AI into organizational strategies. Suresh describes his experiences at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and the creation of the Blueprint for…

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Diya Wynn: People-Centric Technology 32:40

11M ago32:40

32:40

Kevin Werbach speaks with Diya Wynn, the responsible AI lead at Amazon Web Services (AWS). Diya shares how she pioneered a formal practice for ethical AI at AWS, and explains AWS’s “Well-Architected” framework to assist customers in responsibly deploying AI. Kevin and Diya also discuss the significance of diversity and human bias in AI systems, rev…

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Paula Goldman: Putting Humans at the Helm 31:58

12M ago31:58

31:58

Kevin Werbach is joined by Paula Goldman, Chief Ethical and Humane Use Officer at Salesforce, to discuss the pioneering efforts of her team in building a culture of ethical technology use. Paula shares insights on aligning risk assessments and technical mitigations with business goals to bring stakeholders on board. She explains how AI governance f…

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Navrina Singh: AI Alignment in Practice 37:11

12M ago37:11

37:11

Kevin Werbach speaks with Navrina Singh of Credo AI, which automates AI oversight and regulatory compliance. Singh addresses the increasing importance of trust and governance in the AI space. She discusses the need to standardize and scale oversight mechanisms by helping companies align and translate their systems to include all stakeholders and co…

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Scott Zoldi: Using the Best AI Tools for the Job 31:12

12M ago31:12

31:12

Kevin Werbach speaks with Scott Zoldi of FICO, which pioneered consumer credit scoring in the 1950s and now offers a suite of analytics and fraud detection tools. Zoldi explains the importance of transparency and interpretability in AI models, emphasizing a “simpler is better” approach to creating clear and understandable algorithms. He discusses F…

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Olivia Gambelin: Ethical AI as Good Business Practice 34:07

1y ago34:07

34:07

Professor Kevin Werbach and AI ethicist Olivia Gambelin discuss the moral responsibilities surrounding Artificial Intelligence, and the practical steps companies should take to address tehm. Olivia explains how companies can begin their responsible AI journey, starting with taking inventory of their systems and using Olivia's Value Canvas to map th…

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Beth Noveck: Effective and Accountable AI in the Public Sector 37:08

1y ago37:08

37:08

Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Beth Noveck, New Jersey's first Chief AI Strategist, as they explore AI's transformative power in public governance. Beth reveals how AI is revolutionizing government operations, from rewriting complex unemployment insurance letters in plain English to analyzing call data for faster responses. They discuss New Jerse…

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Jean-Enno Charton: Operationalizing AI Ethics 35:13

1y ago35:13

35:13

Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Jean-Enno Charton, Director of Digital Ethics and Bioethics at Merck KGAA, as they explore the ethical challenges of AI in healthcare and life sciences. Charton delves into the evolution of Merck's AI ethics program, which stemmed from their bioethics advisory panel addressing complex ethical dilemmas in areas like …

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Dominique Shelton Leipzig: Building Trust When Every Company is an AI Company 34:44

1y ago34:44

34:44

Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Dominique Shelton Leipzig, an expert in data privacy and technology law, as they share practical insights on AI's transformative potential and regulatory challenges in this episode on The Road to Accountable AI. They dissect the ripple effects of recent legislation, and why setting industry standards and codifying t…

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Dragos Tudorache: Next Steps for the World's First Comprehensive AI Law 31:15

1y ago31:15

31:15

Join Professor Werbach and Dragos Tudorache, co-rapporteur of the EU AI Act and one of the most essential AI policymakers in the world, to discuss the world's urgent need for AI regulation and collaboration. They discuss the nuances of the Act's attempt to balance mitigating risk and fostering innovation and dissect the legislation's approach to en…

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Richard Benjamins: A Multi-Year Journey Toward Responsible Enterprise AI 37:57

1y ago37:57

37:57

In this episode, Professor Kevin Werbach and Dr. Richard Benjamins, former Chief Responsible AI Officer at Telefónica, discuss Telefónica's journey towards responsible AI, corporate strategies to address these challenges, and Benjamins' views on generative AI and the European AI Act. They explore the role of the Responsible AI Champion in embedding…

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Elham Tabassi: Framing and Taming AI Risks 30:54

1y ago30:54

30:54

Join Professor Kevin Werbach and Elham Tabassi, Associate Director for Emerging Technologies at NIST, as they explore the nuances of the NIST AI Risk Management Framework (RMF). Their discussion illuminates the science of measurement, the challenges of operationalizing legal and governance requirements for AI, and the pursuit of standards for trust…

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Reid Blackman: Aligning AI with Ethics in the Real World 38:44

1y ago38:44

38:44

Join Professor Werbach and Reid Blackman, the founder of Virtue and author of ‘Ethical Machines,’ to unravel the fabric of ethical responsibilities in AI development. They navigate the transition from 'AI ethics' to 'responsible AI,' debunking the myth that ethics is just a matter of opinion and showcasing how it can be both objective and actionabl…

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Azeem Azhar: Exponential Challenges of Exponential Technologies 39:38

1y ago39:38

39:38

Professor Werbach is joined by Azeem Azhar, a leading expert in exponential technologies, for a riveting conversation on the trajectory of AI, regulation, and the larger challenges of concentration in the tech sector. They traverse Azeem’s professional journey, highlighting the pivotal moments in AI development, such as the rise of deep learning, a…

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Kevin Werbach: Why You Should Care About AI Accountability 27:52

1y ago27:52

27:52

Welcome to the Road to Accountable AI. Explore the crucial intersection of technology, law, and business ethics with Wharton professor Kevin Werbach, as he and his guests examine efforts to implement responsible, safe and trustworthy artificial intelligence. In this initial episode, Professor Werbach describes the concept he calls Accountable AI. H…

3+ y ago28:43

28:43

In this episode of the IEEE Blockchain Podcast Series, we speak with Michael Zargham, founder and CEO of BlockScience. Dr. Zargham holds a Ph.D. in systems engineering from the University of Pennsylvania where he studied optimization and control of decentralized networks. His earliest work on peer-to-peer effects in business decision making was dev…

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