Kevin is a disciple of the Christian faith through and through. Jackson, not so much--he is plagued by doubt. Listen in as the two discuss--and sometimes debate--the existence of God, the problem of evil, the meaning of Christ’s resurrection, and a host of other matters pertaining to Christianity. Follow us on Medium as well if you're interested in keeping up with the dialogue in written form: https://medium.com/a-disciple-and-a-doubter.
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YOUR true crime book club podcast.Jill tells the true crime book stories in 3 parts. Dive deep into the criminal psyche, updates, and outcomes with the greatest respect for accuracy, victims and families!
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Episode 137 Part 1- “World Filled with Nuts” – A Tangled Web: A True Story by Leslie Rule
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1:13:06Part 1: After discussing CrimeCon 2025, the Ellen Greenberg case, and the upcoming Wildlife CSI, Jill dives into one of the most twisted and convoluted true crime stories ever told! Dave Kroupa, recently single, joins an online dating platform where he meets Liz and then Cari. Not seeking a serious relationship, he finds amazing chemistry with Cari…
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Special Ep 136: Shadow of the Bridge by Aine Cain and Kevin Greenlee of the Murder Sheet Podcast
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56:40In a lively conversation, Jill discussed the new true crime book by the hosts of the Murder Sheet podcast, Áine Cain and Kevin Greenlee, titled Shadow of the Bridge: The Delphi Murders and the Dark Side of the American Heartland. Áine Cain, the investigative journalist, and Kevin Greenlee, the renowned attorney, explore the tragic Delphi 2017 murde…
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Episode 20: An agnostic joins the show!
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1:35:18By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Special Ep 134: Depraved Obsession- A Gripping True Story of Law Enforcement’s Hunt for a Sadistic Serial Killer by Rod Sadler
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57:17Retired law enforcement supervisor and accomplished author Rod Sadler joins Jill for an engaging discussion about his latest book, Depraved Obsession. Their conversation delves into the shocking murders of teenagers Kenny Myers and Shawn Moore, shedding light on the sadistic serial killer who terrorized the community and shattered countless lives. …
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Episode 19: Job, Jesus, and the Problem of Evil
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54:02In this episode, the disciple and the doubter discuss one of the Bible's more challenging books--the Book of Job. They seek to understand why God allows Job to suffer in the first place, and also try to make sense out of the answer God gives to Job at the end of the book, which supposedly explains why Job suffers.…
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson reply to a commenter on a recent videos of theirs, who laid out twelve reasons why they (they being the commenter) do not believe in God, nor see a reason to.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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On August 27, 2025, at 8:30 AM, Minneapolis, Minnesota, faced a tragic incident at the Annunciation Church and Catholic School in Minneapolis, with 2 killed and 17 injured as per the latest news report. As we grapple with the pain and sorrow, taking the time to understand the facts may offer solace and support to someone in need. In her trilogy, "A…
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Ep 133 2ndCast: Part 3 “Accentuate” on A Dark Night In Aurora by William H. Reid
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1:07:15Part 3: The trial of James Holmes unfolds with gripping tension as the jury deliberates whether he was insane during the tragic act that claimed 12 innocent lives and inflicted countless injuries. Should they find him sane, a critical question looms: Is the death penalty warranted? The atmosphere in the courtroom is charged with emotion as courageo…
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Ep 132: Part 2 “Ultraception” - A Dark In Aurora: Inside James Holmes and the Colorado Mass Shooting by William H. Reid, MD.
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1:28:37Part 2: Neuroscience graduate student James Holmes is in therapy with psychiatrists Dr. Lynne Fenton and Dr. Robert Feinstein. He struggles with anxiety and intrusive, violent thoughts, but withholds crucial information from his psychiatrists, including his purchase of weapons. His lack of transparency leaves the psychiatrists concerned but unable …
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson once more revisit non-literal readings of the Old Testament, and how these readings can reveal a meaning far deeper than if we were to merely take the text literally. Their discussion centers around the theme of Order versus Chaos in Exodus, and how that theme manifests in the very depths of our psyche.…
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Special Ep 131: The Crack City Strangler- The Homicides of Serial Killer Benjamin Atkins with BR Bates
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56:29YAY! One of our favorite true crime authors, BR Bates, is back to discuss her new book with you, The Crack City Strangler- The Homicides of Serial Killer Benjamin Atkins. Jill and BR dive into the case, deconstructing Benjamin ‘Tony’ Atkins’s childhood, its impact on his life, which devolved into serial murder. Possibly one of the fastest serial ki…
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Episode 16: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GOD? Jordan Peterson and Biblical (non)-Literalism
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48:02In this latest edition of the podcast, Kevin and Jackson discuss Biblical literalism and non-literalism; they focus particularly on Dr. Jordan Peterson's religious thinking, and how it might inform on the tension between literalism versus non-literalism. Questions tackled include: What do we even mean when we use the word 'God'? Can anybody really …
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Ep 130: Part 1 “Just Wanted To Keep It Private”- A Dark Night in Aurora: Inside James Holmes & the Colorado Mass Shooting by Dr. William H. Reid, MD.
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1:12:14Part 1: Just in time for Crimecon Denver 2025~ July 20, 2012: The Century 16 Theater in Aurora, Colorado, transformed into a scene of unimaginable horror when a man donned in a gas mask and body armor unleashed gunfire upon the 400 men, women, and children immersed in the thrill of the new Batman movie. In mere moments, the aisles turned into river…
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Episode 15: THE EUCHARIST: What does it mean to eat God?
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1:08:37Have you ever wondered why you feel very little, if anything at all, upon receiving the sacrament of the Eucharist, despite the fact that it is said to be the literal body of Christ? Tune in to the thirteenth edition of the podcast to hear Kevin and Jackson's thoughts on both this question and others pertaining to the Eucharist, such as whether or …
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Episode 14: Why doesn't the Bible condemn slavery?
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1:02:36One might expect that the Holy Bible, a text which is supposedly true for all of time, would explicitly condemn one of the worst evils known to man, that being slavery. And yet, not only does the Bible fail to condemn slavery, there are multiple instances in which God even provides instruction for how to properly own slaves. What are we to do with …
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Episode 13: Arguments against the Christian God
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47:39In this episode, Jackson presents two ideas which seemingly call into question the Christian understanding of God. Kevin responds. Is this existence of God upheld, or does it fall apart? Listen and let us know your thoughts.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Welcome back! In this latest edition of the show, Kevin and Jackson discuss the significance of the First Commandment; namely, how we as modern people fail to live up to it, and how to correct our course.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Episode 129 2ndCast Part 3- “A Rip in Time” on The Five by Hallie Rubenhold AND Naming Jack the Ripper – the Final Reveal by Russell Edwards
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1:11:44Part 3: History tells us that Mary Jane Kelly, a victim of Jack the Ripper, was a prostitute. Now, discover the details of her life and her loves. In 2ndcast, Jill examines several suspects and provides an analysis of the DNA testing conducted in 2014 on the shawl found at the crime scene of Catherine Eddowes. Does this evidence confirm the identit…
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Special Episode 128: Moonshine Over Georgia by Chris Skates
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1:07:41Western Georgia, 1946. Years after Prohibition ended, illegal stills are still in operation, fueled by vast amounts of money and corruption, far removed from the portrayal of good old boy exploits seen on TV and in movies. In this era of moonshine and deceit, it is the responsibility of the Georgia Revenue Agents to identify and shut down these ill…
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Ep 127: Part 2 ‘Women With No Voice’ – The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold
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1:08:01Part 2: The exploration of the lives of Elizabeth Stride and Catherine 'Kate' Eddowes, who were murdered by Jack the Ripper in 1888, begins in earnest. The Ripper mythos labels them as 'unfortunates,' which tramples on their true stories. These women were beloved daughters, sisters, students, wives, mothers, and business owners, all struggling to n…
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Special Episode 126: Wildlife CSI with Sheryl 'Mac' McCollum
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47:44WILDLIFE CSI is an exciting new initiative! I had an incredible opportunity to spend time with majestic giraffes, striking zebras, powerful rhinos, elegant roan antelopes, graceful impalas, rare addaxes, sturdy bison, and even adorable puppies, all while joining forces with Sheryl ‘Mac’ McCollum, Dr. Laura Pettler, and the esteemed forensic patholo…
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Special Episode 125: Things Aren’t Right- The Disappearance of the Yuba County Five by Tony Wright!
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56:59In this exclusive interview, Jill speaks with author Tony Wright about the perplexing case of the Yuba County Five: Ted Weiher, Jack Madruga, Bill Sterling, Jackie Huett, and Gary Mathias. These five men disappeared in February 1978 while attending a basketball game and later vanished into the Plumas National Forest in California. As the search beg…
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Episode 124 Part 8 - ‘Karma’- Russ Faria Update: Bone Deep UPDATE
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45:21Part 8: In 2022, Jill reported on the shocking miscarriage of justice in Betsy Faria's murder case, as detailed in Episodes 40-44, the August 2022 Update, and Episode 70 of "Bone Deep" by Charles Bosworth Jr. and Joel Schwartz. After finding Betsy’s body, her husband, Russ Faria, was arrested for murder and put on trial. Despite having an ironclad …
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Ep 123: Part 1 ‘Never just a Prostitute” on The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed By Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold
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1:17:06Part I: Step into Victorian London, 1888. In the wake of Queen Victoria’s Golden Jubilee, a shadow looms over Whitechapel as a series of gruesome murders unfolds. Jack the Ripper, a figure of unimaginable horror, terrifies the East End with his shocking brutality, leaving a trail of mutilated bodies that haunt us still! But who were the five tragic…
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Special Episode 122: Vacations Can Be Murder Vol 1 NEW ENGLAND by Dawn M. Barclay
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47:44Just in time for summer vacation, Jill is thrilled to introduce you to a a must-have true crime book, Vacations Can Be Murder! This book is the ultimate treasure trove for true crime enthusiasts who know that ‘seeing is believing’. Authored by the talented Dawn M. Barclay, it delves into gripping crime stories, intricate crime scenes, historic cour…
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Ep 121: “The Exclusive Interview with Arson Prosecutor Diane Marger Moore” Author of 16 MINUTES: Was the Death of Baby Matthew an Accident or Murder? By Diane Marger Moore Pt 4
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1:01:35Part 4: This exclusive interview with Diane Marger Moore, author of 16 Minutes, is a highlight of Jill's podcast! In this heartfelt and honest discussion, Jill and Diane explore the Wise trials and the many obstacles that almost derailed justice. Diane reflects on her 47-year career as a female lawyer in a male-dominated field, discussing her exper…
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Episode 11: Are all religions a pathway to God? (Part II)
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1:12:51In this continuation of last episode, Kevin and Jackson discuss whether or not the Catholic Church is God's one true church on earth. If it is, then why are billions of people--Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists alike--convinced otherwise? Listen in to find out.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Episode 10: Are all religions a pathway to God?
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57:42Last year, the late Pope Francis stated that "all religions are a pathway to God." In this first segment of a two part mini-series, Kevin and Jackson discuss whether or not there is any validity to the Pope's assertion. They focus particularly on the question of Catholicism and Protestantism. Spoiler alert: they do NOT agree. Listen in to find out …
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Ep 120 2ndCast: Part 3 “27 seconds” -16 MINUTES: Was the Death of Baby Matthew an Accident or Murder? By Diane Marger Moore
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59:15Part 3: The defense of William Wise begins by questioning all the known facts about the night Matthew died; the use of an accelerants and the 16-minute timeframe of the fire itself! Leading to a contentious back-and-forth filled with tension, Defense experts are challenged by the Prosecution. Ultimately, it will be up to the jurors to decide: Is th…
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In this thrilling ninth edition of A Disciple and a Doubter, Kevin and Jackson discuss hell---namely, what it might be like, whether or not it's empty, and if people willingly choose to go there.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson read and discuss the wedding at Cana (John 2); specifically, what the first of Christ's miracles has to tell us about the nature of God's love.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Ep 119: Part 2 “Justice Delayed is Justice Denied” - 16 MINUTES: Was the Death of Baby Matthew an Accident or Murder? By Diane Marger Moore
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1:14:56Part 2: Ready for trial in just three months, Marion County Arson Prosecutor Diane Marger Moore begins the case against William J. Wise for the murder of his 8-week-old son, Matthew Dean Wise. However, progress in the case is derailed by shocking twists and turns that hinder the pursuit of justice for the newborn. Tensions rise as the determination…
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson discuss the significance of Palm Sunday, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, and, last but not least, Easter Sunday.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Ep 118: Part 1 “Death of a Newborn” -16 MINUTES: Was the Death of Baby Matthew an Accident or Murder? By Diane Marger Moore
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1:10:48Part I: Tragically, 8-week-old Matthew Dean Wise perished in a house fire, which occurred when both parents were home. Prosecutor Diane Marger Moore takes on the case 2 years later, with her team hurrying to locate witnesses, conduct interviews, find documents, and plan a murder trial. Digging into the horrific death, Diane and Detective Leslie Van…
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson read Matthew Chapter 4: Jesus is Tested in the Wilderness (NIV), then discuss how each of us are called to follow in Christ's footsteps during the season of Lent, facing and defeating temptation so as to better appreciate the miracle of the resurrection.By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Episode 5: Christianity, Capitalism, and the Value of Dignified Work
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54:26In this episode, Kevin and Jackson discuss work v. leisure from the Christian perspective, and how that perspective can be lost--by Christians and non-Christians alike--in today's profit-driven world. The pair also discuss capitalism v. communism, and how a Christian should go about living in a society like America, that operates, economically-spea…
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Special Episode 117: A Conversation With Dr. Katherine Ramsland
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54:36In this special episode, Dr. Katherine Ramsland, a distinguished Professor of Forensic Psychology at DeSales University and a prolific author of 74 influential books in the fields of crime, forensic science, and investigative crime fiction, engages in a conversation with Jill about her remarkable career. Dr. Ramsland has investigated fascinating ca…
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Episode 116: Part 4 ‘The Journalist and the Commander Speak!” onThe Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides by BR Bates with Gerald Cliff, Ph.D
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58:57Part 4: The remarkable series takes an even more thrilling turn as Jill engages in a gripping conversation with acclaimed author and journalist B.R. Bates and Dr. Gerry Cliff, the esteemed commander of the Violent Crime Task Force. Together, they delve into their captivating book, The Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides. Step…
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Ep115 2ndCast: Part 3 ‘Unsafe Harbor on The Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides by BR Bates, with Gerald Cliff, Ph.D
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1:12:11Part 3: In various ports of call throughout the East, the NCIS and the FBI investigate the alleged murders of John Eric Armstrong. Meanwhile, concerns about a rising body count are growing in Michigan and North Carolina, even as Elizabeth Walker concludes her prosecution of Armstrong. Underway is a detailed inquiry into complex psychosocial questio…
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson discuss Genesis Chapters 2 and 3, pertaining to the creation of Adam and Eve, and their eventual fall from the Garden of Eden. The discussion centers around the question of whether the Fall was merely happenstance and tragedy, or if it was, rather, that "necessary sin of Adam which gained us so great a Redeemer." …
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In this episode, Kevin and Jackson discuss Exodus 11, which pertains to the tenth and final plague levied against the Egyptians by God, that being the death of the firstborn. It's an uncomfortable chapter for many, even the most devout of believers, because God's actions seem, on the surface, unjust, which calls into question His apparent omni-bene…
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Ep. 114: Part 2 ‘Savage Truths’ on The Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides by BR Bates, with Gerald Cliff, Ph.D Part 2
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1:11:01Episode 114: ‘Savage Truths’ – Pt. 2, The Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides by BR Bates, with Gerald Cliff, Ph.D Part 2 In Dearborn Heights, Michigan, a Good Samaritan reported the discovery of a body in the Rouge River. The victim, a prostitute, had been strangled to death. Who killed the woman in the river? Meanwhile, Det…
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Kevin and Jackson discuss what human dignity means, if such a concept can exist without the belief in God, and how modern technology -- social media in particular -- hinders our pursuit of flourishing. NOTE: mind the brief pause at 7:37 and the fluctuating audio quality. Our excuse is that we do not claim to be professional podcasters.…
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Episode 113: Part 1 ‘The Contortionist” onThe Baby Doll Serial Killer: The John Eric Armstrong Homicides by BR Bates, with Gerald Cliff, Ph.D
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59:41In January 2000, Detroit, Michigan, was known as the 'Murder Capital' of the USA. A calculating killer preyed on vulnerable women along infamous Michigan Avenue, where those struggling with addiction engaged in a perilous game of ‘Russian roulette’, going off alone with clients, eager to pay for sex. Eventually, the bodies of the murdered women wer…
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Episode 1: What does it mean to believe in God?
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1:05:39By Kevin Sadler and Jackson Lang
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Episode 112: “This is solvable” Silent Silhouette- Who Killed Deborah Sue? by George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz, Pt 4
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45:41Investigative journalist and CrimeCon presenter George Jared, co-author of the book Silent Silhouette, sits down for an exclusive interview with Jill. George shares behind-the-scenes insights into how he and Jennifer Bucholtz investigated the now 50-year-old cold case, the murder of Deborah Sue Williamson. Comparing theories, they also delve into t…
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Episode 111: “A Matter of Time!” Pt 3 2ndCast- Silent Silhouette Who Killed Deborah Sue? by George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz
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1:04:15In Part 3: George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz continue their investigation into the 1975 cold case of Deborah Sue Williamson. Deep into this investigation, new witness statements are examined, inconsistencies identified, and surprisingly, downright lies are told, as our authors ask why anyone would lie about the known facts? Now, straight out askin…
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Ep 110: Mini-Cast- DNA UPDATE- A Harvest of Innocence by Dan Stidham and Tom McCarthy Part 5
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11:17Ep 110: Mini-Cast- DNA UPDATE- A Harvest of Innocence by Dan Stidham and Tom McCarthy Part 5 In this mini-cast update on the West Memphis 3, Jill tells you the exciting news about the new, modern DNA testing, approved by the Arkansas Supreme Court in April 2024! Need an update on the West Memphis 3 case, who murdered 8-year old Stevie Branch, Micha…
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Episode 109: “Shower of Troubles” Silent Silhouette-Who Killed Deborah Sue? by George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz, Pt 2
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1:12:25In Part 2, our authors, George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz, head to the scene of the crime, the carport, where Deborah Sue Williamson was gruesomely murdered on Aug 24, 1975. There, they see the site through the eyes of the victim AND the killer. Armed with more questions, they continue interview subjects as well as possible suspects, building a ca…
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Episode 108: “Anger: More harmful than the Insult that caused it” Pt 1 - Silent Silhouette: Who Killed Deborah Sue? by George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz, Pt 1
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1:02:31Young newlywed Deborah Sue Williamson was living in Lubbock Texas in August 1975. While her husband was at work, Debbie was viciously murdered in the carport of their home. Many suspects were investigated- her husband, her brother, good family friends- but no one was arrested as the case went cold. Then came a break, serial killer Henry Lee Lucas c…
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