Once competitors and Olympic teammates, now friends and podcast partners, Des Linden and Kara Goucher share their hot takes about all things running with a little bit of life-stuff sprinkled in too. Come for the insights on running and stay for the inspiration from two legends in the sport. No filter needed. This podcast is presented by Brooks Running.
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Hosted by Maddie Alm, sports dietitian and elite runner, The Fueling Forward Podcast is the place to go for all things running and sports nutrition. Learn from other runners as they discuss their own experiences with nutrition and performance and learn from Maddie, a registered dietitian and runner. Through these conversations, we will bust common nutrition myths and misconceptions around fueling for performance, so you can find an approach to fueling that will allow you to feel and perform ...
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The Clean Sport Collective is a community of powerful voices comprised of athletes, brands, events, clubs, fans and the public to support the pursuit of clean sport and athletics through the absence of performance enhancing drugs. With this podcast, we will celebrate clean athletes, educate you on issues in the world of clean sport, and bring hope that we can all believe in the power of fair play across all sports.
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Travis McKenzie hosts inspiring athletes and innovators from across the endurance sports world to explore the mindset it takes to achieve their personal bests. Learn how you can develop your own winning formula and master your INNERVOICE.
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This episode is an interview with Kara Goucher. Kara lives in Boulder where she is a wife and mom, and a Track and Field analyst for NBC Sports. Kara grew up in Minnesota, finding the sport of running through her grandpa, then went on to run for the University of Colorado where she was a 3x NCAA champion. After college, Kara went on to run professi…
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Pulling up to this episode is like pulling up to your local library... it's got a little bit of everything in it, except for hopefully those pesky midwestern ticks. The episode opens with the usual intro banter, where Des characterizes Kara as being in "librarian mode." If Kara is the librarian, then that makes Des the person who is relentlessly tr…
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This week's episode is a Q&A with me, your host, Maddie Alm. I start the episode by giving a quick update on how I'm preparing to train for NYCM (spoiler alert, it's not much). Then, I'm answering questions that have been submitted by listeners. Today's questions I answer include: As a busy student athlete, I know some days I'm not getting enough i…
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Runners Who Read Podcast EP 12: Range by David Epstein
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54:18David Epstein is a highly awarded journalist, New York Times bestselling author, and fellow runner among numerous other things. Like many of the characters in his book Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Highly Specialized World, which we read over the last 7 weeks, he has benefitted from a winding career path. Having master’s degrees in both envir…
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This episode is an interview with professional runner representing Puma and mom of 4, Sara Vaughn. Sara was born and raise in a small town in Nebraska, and after finding running in high school she went on to become an All-American for CU. While at CU, she unexpectedly became pregnant her junior year and had her first daughter, Kiki, as a collegiate…
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3.13. Save the 10,000, the Cooldown Episode
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1:11:24They warmed you up with plenty of pre-race content, Des and Kara and the athletes delivered on exciting races, and now it's time for the cooldown! Des and Kara recap the Save the 10,000 with all of their reactions and lessons learned. They give you even more build-the-scenes details of the event and discuss whether or not there will be a year 2 for…
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Today's episode is a Q&A with me, Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former professional runner. I'm starting off today's episode with an exciting announcement, then I'm answering questions that have been submitted to me by listeners. Questions answered in this episode include: What are your thoughts on incomplete vs. complete proteins and leucin…
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This week's episode is the first of my May series, Mother Runners, where runners who are also moms share their experiences navigating this time in their life. Today's guest is Reilly Beatty, a registered dietitian, owner of Reilly Beatty Sports Nutrition, and new mom to her first daughter who was born just over a year ago. Reilly played D1 soccer a…
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To get you excited about Saturday night's Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara, this episode is all about Kara's history with the event. She talks about 10,000m legends Lynn Jennings and Billy Mills and how they inspired her to want to be an Olympian. She gives the story of how she WALKED in her very first 10,000 on the track, seemingly swearing off t…
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It's race week. Are you ready for this?!? Cue the 2 Unlimited music in your head! In this episode, Trevor Rhodes joins the show. He is the race director for the meet, and the event wouldn't have happened with him. Des, Kara, and Trevor take you behind the scenes on putting together the Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara. They talk about the budget, …
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"People say you should go out on top, and that's what I am doing - because getting to race my final professional marathon in Boston is indeed going out on top." - Des Linden Those are the words she shared via an ad in the Boston Globe placed and paid for by her and released on race morning. Then, she did indeed go out on top... running 2:26 (as she…
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Today's episode is a Q&A with me, your host, Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former professional runner. I start of the episode with some brief thoughts on Monday's Boston Marathon, then I'm answering questions submitted by listeners. Today's questions include: I went through a period of time where I was under fueling, and have worked on heali…
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Live from WBUR Cityspace, this is the 2025 version of Des and Kara from Boston. In this episode, you get all of the normal, fun banter plus a section-by-section rundown of the Boston course from their experiences. If you are racing on Monday, then this is a must-listen before you toe the line for plenty of inspiration and some great course intel. F…
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This week's episode is an interview with Bailey Ness. Bailey is a Minnesota native and alumni of the University of Minnesota Track/XC team. She moved to Colorado for grad school, finishing up her eligibility at CSU before moving to Denver and starting 2 different businesses. Bailey is the founder of Nessecity, a social media marketing agency, and t…
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Today's episode is a Q&A with me, your host, Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former professional runner. I answer questions that have been submitted to me by listeners, and today's questions include: I was told my cholesterol levels are high as a young high level runner and my doctor told me to remove several foods, what does this mean and wha…
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Spring time is here. The leaves are returning to the trees, and we are turning over new ones. Some new leaves in this episode: new Brooks foams and new track meets, plus massages (!), excursions (!), and a lot of breaking news for Save the 10,000. This episode starts with an update on Des's build to Boston and her plans for the upcoming taper. She …
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Today's episode is an interview with steeplechase legend, Emma Coburn. Emma grew up in Crested Butte, Colorado where she was an 8x Colorado State champion. She went on to run for the University of Colorado, earning 6x All-American honors and 3x NCAA titles. Emma has been a professional runner for New Balance ever since, and has been one of the grea…
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Today's episode is a Q&A with me, your host Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former professional runner. I answer 5 great questions submitted by listeners, including: What are some nutrition considerations for the aging athletes? Should I be getting regular blood work, and should I be looking for different numbers as an athlete? What should I d…
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3.7. The Vibes Episode (aka the Chafing Episode)
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1:05:46This episode is a vibe all to its own, and you know it's is a good one when hilarious stuff comes up in the most random of ways. This episode isn’t about chafing, but you get plenty of hilarious (and perhaps a little disgusting) banter on it. Elite or not… every runner can relate to that. What else do we have in this one? Let’s see…lost toenails, d…
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This week's episode is an interview with Amber Schulz! Amber grew up in Florida and got into running at a young age, where she was the 2021 4A Florida State Champion in XC and the runner up in 2022. Amber battled an eating disorder her junior year of HS, and after recovering she went on to run collegiately at the D1 level at High Point, then ended …
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This week's episode is a Q&A with me, your host, Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former professional runner. In honor of it being National Nutrition Month and RD day, I start the episode by talking about the difference between a dietitian and a nutritionist, and my journey to becoming a dietitian. I also answer questions submitted by listeners…
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3.6. Save the 10,000 Launch Episode
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1:03:41Nobody asked Des and Kara to put on a 10,000 meter track race, but as is the theme for this podcast, here we are! It's officially official. The Save the 10,000 with Des and Kara is happening on Saturday, May 3rd at Mt. San Antonio College (aka Mt. SAC) in Walnut, CA. Listen to this episode for all of the details, and then head to http://savethe1000…
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Today's episode is an inspiring interview with professional runner and mental health advocate, Allie Ostrander! Allie grew up in Alaska, where she was a 10x state champion and U20 World Mountain Running champion. She went on to run for Boise State University, where she was a 3x NCAA champion and 13x All-American. After college, Allie signed a contr…
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Today's episode is a Q&A with me, your host, Maddie Alm, a registered dietitian and former professional runner. In honor of it being National Eating Disorder Awareness Week, I start today's episode by talking about some statistics around eating disorders in athletes, myths that perpetuate these issues, and sharing some resources for seeking support…
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It was Adam Goucher's birthday last week. He turned 50. Happy birthday Adam(!) and thank you for prompting the introspection that is a theme throughout the episode. It starts with the introspection of hitting age milestones as Kara and Des discuss how it felt hitting 30 and 40 and how they might feel hitting 50. Then, they talk about the introspect…
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This week's episode is an interview with my friend and former teammate, Katie Rainsberger. Katie grew up in Colorado Springs, Colorado where she was a 10x Colorado state champion and a 4:40 miler. She went on the run at the University of Oregon and ended up transferring to University of Washington. While in college, Katie was a 13 time NCAA All-Ame…
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This week's episode is a Q&A with me, Maddie Alm, registered dietitian and former elite runner. I answer questions submitted by listeners, and today I cover: How to handle pre-race nerves, both from a mental and fueling standpoint speaking from some of my personal experience What are some special fueling considerations for breastfeeding moms? Is vi…
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3.4. The Indoor World Record Episode
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1:17:03If you can't get excited about track from listening to these two talk, then you should have your head examined and your pulse checked! Their enthusiasm for the sport is contagious. In this episode, they start with life updates including recent travels for them both. Des updates us on her trip to Kona and on her Boston prep, and Kara shares about he…
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Today's episode is an interview with professional runner and Olympian, Cory McGee. She grew up in a small town in Mississippi, where she ended up becoming a multi-time state champion. Cory went on to run collegiately for the University of Florida, where she was a 2x NCAA runner up and 10x All-American. After graduating, Cory became a professional r…
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Today's episode is the first ever Q&A on The Fueling Forward Podcast! Get your questions answered by me, Maddie Alm, a registered dietitian and former elite runner. On today's episode, I answer questions about: How to structure your fueling, both consistency of eating throughout the day and composition of meals/snacks Should you be counting calorie…
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"I could be wrong, but I know I'm not." - Kara Goucher. You know it's a good episode when Kara drops that quote. In this episode, Des and Kara cover a topic that you DID ask for. They give you their hot takes on the return of Shelby Houlihan from her 4-year ban. As you might expect, it is complicated, so find some paper towels and put them under th…
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Today's episode is an interview with professional runner, Laura Thweatt, who is based in Boulder, CO. Laura ran collegiately at CU and went on to have a 10 year professional career running for Saucony (she is still with them today!). She's a 2:25 marathoner, a 5th place Olympic trials finisher in the 2016 10k and 2020 marathon, and a US Cross champ…
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3.2. Behind the Scenes of the 2012 Olympic Marathon Trials in Houston
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1:07:32What a race weekend in Houston! Des and Kara were so happy to be a part of it, including our largest live show yet with 500 people in attendance on Saturday. Thank you to everyone who came out for the show and to Brooks Running and the Houston Marathon team for the hospitality all weekend. In this episode, Des and Kara give you predictions for the …
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1. Welcome to The Fueling Forward Podcast!
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33:20Welcome to the very first episode of the Fueling Forward Podcast with me, Maddie Alm, an elite runner and registered dietitian. I'm so glad you're here! In this episode, I will introduce you to both the podcast and myself. You will learn: What the podcast is all about and how it's going to work The story of how I got into running and nutrition The …
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Welcome to Season 3 of Nobody Asked Us with Des and Kara presented by Brooks Running! This is a FUN and INFORMATIVE episode to kick off 2025. Des and Kara start with their usual catch-up banter, updating us on their holiday and New Year activities. Des shares her excitement about another Boston start line coming in April. Kara gives updates on her …
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2.40. The Sister Episode, Kara Edition
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1:13:36The most important link you need today is this one: https://performingartshouston.org/events/nobody-asked-us-with-des-kara-2025-01-18-400-pm/. Go get your tickets for the Houston live show coming up on Saturday, January 18th at 4 pm! Beyond that, listen to this feel-good episode with Kara and her sisters to round out 2024. Happy New Year everyone!…
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Any good Nobody Asked Us episode will make you laugh AND cry, and this one is no different. For this latest installment, Des and Kara cover a hodgepodge of topics, mostly by catching up on their personal lives, and you will learn something new about each of them along the way. Or, maybe you knew about Bougie Des and Homebody Kara already?! Kara tal…
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Runners Who Read EP 11: Run to the Finish by Amanda Brooks
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42:21Amanda Brooks is an entrepreneur, inspiring author, and fellow runner. In 2007, she created the website RunToTheFinish.com to connect with fellow runners. It has since blossomed into a space where people can find coaching, gear reviews, and highly researched articles on a variety of running-related topics. As the founder of the popular blog "Run to…
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2.38. The Sister Episode, Des Edition
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1:08:18We have a very special guest for this episode, and you won't want to miss it! In fact, this might be the episode to watch on YouTube if that isn't your normal routine. [Don't forget to hit subscribe while you are there.] Introducing... Natalie Steele, Des's older and taller and wiser(?) sister! She joins the show to spill all of the dirt on Des whi…
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Runners Who Read EP 10: Becoming a Sustainable Runner by Tina Muir and Zoë Rom
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53:23Tina Muir is a former elite marathoner who is now the Founder and CEO of Running For Real, host of an award-winning podcast of the same name, author of multiple books, and environmental activist. As an elite athlete, she ran a personal best of 2:36 in the marathon and represented Great Britain and Northern Ireland at the 2016 World Half Marathon Ch…
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Oh my... where do we start with this episode goodness?!? The highlight of this episode is the long-awaited podcast face-off between Des and her arch-nemesis Dakotah Popehn, nee Lindwurm. They trash talk with all of the intensity of two cats playing with a furry ball before licking each other clean. Combine that with Kara's Minnesota accent showing …
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Runners Who Read EP 9: The Longest Race by Kara Goucher
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57:24For the 9th installment of the Runners Who Read Podcast, Olivia sits down with Kara Goucher, the best-selling author of The Longest Race: Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team. In addition to being an author, she is also a 2x Olympian, analyst for NBC, and co-host on multiple podcasts. During her colle…
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Runners Who Read EP 8: Good for a Girl by Lauren Fleshman
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1:03:50For the 8th installment of the Runners Who Read Podcast, Olivia sat down with Lauren Fleshman, the NY Times bestselling author of Good for a Girl. In addition to being an author, Lauren is an entrepreneur and one of the most decorated American distance runners of all time. She won five NCAA championships at Stanford and two national titles as a pro…
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2.36: Freshy Fresh from the NYC Finish Line
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1:00:37First of all, we have to give a massive shout-out to TCS for hosting the Freshy Fresh in their space, right behind the NYC Marathon finish line. They were amazing hosts and also amazing title sponsors for the race, contributing to all of the vibes of the day. We also love how they are using technology to upgrade the runner, the spectator, and the a…
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Live from the Brooks Hyperion House in NYC... it's Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara! For those running on Sunday (tomorrow), we highly recommend you listen today or on your way to the start. This one is jammed with tips to get your mind and body ready for this NYC Marathon course. Plus, you get some bonus content on Halloween costumes vs. NYC fashio…
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2.34. Chicago Marathon Recap (or Rampage?)
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1:11:31We are posting this early because we know you need some fun and feisty content for your weekend long runs. This one is all about Chicago, and Kara promises that it could be a rampage discussing the new world record set by Ruth Chepngetich. Is it or is it not? You be the judge, but we can promise the discussion will be different than you think. This…
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[New album cover alert!] Another year, another live podcast from Chicago, and this one was even bigger with 250+ in attendance! This episode has everything you would want from a live podcast including a completely-unplanned, surprise guest, who turned Kara into a little bit of an awkward mess ;). The show starts with some life and travel updates. D…
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Wow, there were a lot of emotions and opinions coming out of last week's episode, and we appreciated them all, mostly. Some of the internet haters get a little too excited, but we know that comes with the territory. Well, today... we get to take a deep breath and enjoy this new episode. No controversies to be seen in this one *wink wink*. Des and K…
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This episode features a reluctant guest to talk about the recent changes to the Boston qualifying standards announced by the BAA last week. Yes, Kara dragged me (your editor who is also a running coach) kicking and screaming into this one! We start with some life updates from Kara and Des. Kara shares that she and Adam recently celebrated their 23r…
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2.30. Out with the Old, in with the New… MERCH!
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1:16:59This episode is a sneaky one. It seems like everything is business as usual… and then suddenly… BOOM… fireworks! Don’t worry though, everyone still has all their fingers. Listen carefully though because there are fun revelations sprinkled throughout. At the start, Kara gives us a Colt and house update, where she reveals the one item that she is lik…
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