Best Josh Bersin Podcasts (2025)

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How AI Architectures Are Different, And Why This Changes Everything 18:35

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In this episode I discuss our findings on AI systems architectures, and how they are going to completely change our HR Technology stack. As you’ll hear, I’m not predicting a quick disruption of $50+ billion in corporate software, but over the next decade we will see a quantum shift. (Quantum meaning “from A to B” not a gradual transformation.) List…

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Understanding The Middle East: Business, Culture, and Leadership 24:14

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This week we finished a series of events in Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai and met with more than 100 company HR leaders. In today’s podcast I discuss the business and HR issues these companies face and more significantly give perspectives on the management culture in these fast-growing companies. We discuss AI transformation in detail and I also exp…

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A Rise In Pessimism. Five Suggestions From Our Research And My Life. 18:43

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New research shows a level of pessimism we haven’t seen in a long time. While there are many reasons for this (politics, climate, economy, AI fears), we all need to do something about it. In this podcast I share the research and give you five important steps you can take to avoid, reduce, and eliminate pessimism at work. (Optimism, certainty, growt…

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Suzanne McGovern, CHRO of Ipsy 23:01

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Suzanne McGovern, CHRO of Ipsy, has many years of experience in consulting, HR, DEI, and business growth (PwC, IBM, Splunk) and now leads HR for a billion dollar beauty company. In this thought-proving interview, Suzanne explains how the CHRO role has now become an “outside-in” C-level role and how complex and “mission-centric” the CHRO role can be…

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Building An AI-Powered Superworker Company: Five Keys To Success 20:49

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This week I summarize my Irresistible Keynote and explain the five keys to building an AI-powered Superworker company. And as you’ll hear, they revolve around the value of people, not the value of technology. It’s funny how we think AI is “different” and we personify it. It’s basically a tech platform, and if you think about it that way you’ll be m…

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How Mastercard Uses AI to Rewire HR for Employee and Business Performance 19:47

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Anshul Sheopuri, Executive Vice President, People Operations & Insights, Mastercard, talks with Kathi Enderes about the company’s method for using AI in HR. From Build vs Buy decisions and approaches to govern the roll-out of AI to specific examples of use cases, he explains how to use AI strategically across a fast-growing, tech-first company at t…

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How WPP, The World's Leading Ad Agency, Is Transforming Itself With AI 40:47

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This is a fascinating conversation with Josh Newman, the Global Head of People Strategy & Experience, at WPP. WPP, the world’s leading advertising agency, has around 100,000 employees and a fascinating agency-specific organization around the world. Josh explains the business and operating model for WPP, and how it became an $8.1 Billion market cap …

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Why AI Is A Job Creator, Not A Job Destroyer 11:02

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Recent comments from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei claims that we’ll have a “white collar bloodbath” in jobs and 50% of jobs are going away, leading to 20% unemployment. I believe this is completely incorrect, and in this podcast I explain why. Tech leaders may have a distorted perspective because so much of their energies go into pure software develo…

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Cornerstone Galaxy. How To Think About Your Enterprise Learning Platform. 11:59

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This week I discuss Cornerstone Galaxy, the new, integrated version of Cornerstone, which includes Skyhive, Edcast, Grovo, Tailspin, and other technologies built in. As you’ll hear, Cornerstone is the largest enterprise learning platform company in the world and they’re getting very aggressive with bundling, pricing, and features. At the same time …

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Tanuj Kapilashrami, Chief Strategy Officer at Standard Chartered 35:20

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This is a fascinating and essential podcast about leadership, AI, HR, and business transformation, featuring Tanuj Kapilashrami, the CHRO and Chief Strategy Officer of Standard Chartered. In this conversation, Tanuj talks about the strategic direction of Standard Chartered Bank, her role as Chief Strategy and Talent Officer, and the importance of a…

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Introducing Galileo Learn™, A Bold New Platform for Corporate Learning 13:47

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Welcome to Galileo Learn, the world’s first AI-native platform for all areas of corporate learning and professional development. And yes, Galileo Learn is also the new, dynamic version of The Josh Bersin Academy, and also your personal professional development coach. As the world’s first AI native platform for learning, Galileo Learn delivers an ex…

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Digital Twins, The Curiosity Cycle, And Radical Changes In Corporate Learning 20:21

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This week I dig into digital twins and AI and why I believe the “pedagogical” approach to corporate learning is going away. While we will always have educational programs in business, the L&D world is going in a wild new, positive direction. This podcast explains the forgetting curve, spaced learning, and what I call “the curiosity cycle” in busine…

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Deborah Yates, Chief People Officer, Ex-Lendlease and Ex-KPMG 38:48

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Deborah Yates, former Global Chief People Officer at Lendlease and National Managing Partner at KPMG, joins Siobhan to unpack what really drives impactful cultural transformation in complex, global organizations. 👉 Where people and culture strategies directly drive business outcomes 👉 How to navigate change and transformation at the C-suite lev…

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Josh Bersin, Founder and CEO of The Josh Bersin Company 1:00:29

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Is your organization stuck in outdated structures? Are your people in the wrong roles—or worse, invisible? Is work happening inefficiently, with no real visibility or accountability? Do your leaders truly know who’s doing what—and where value is being created? If any of this feels familiar, this is the podcast for you. In this episode, Josh Bers…

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Jason Averbook, Senior Partner and Global Leader of Digital HR Strategy at Mercer 1:00:07

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This episode cuts through the hype of HR transformation. Jason Averbook, Senior Partner at Mercer, joins Siobhan to share what's actually moving the needle in digital HR. 👉 Where digital HR creates real business impact (and where it doesn't) 👉 The new playbook for employee experience in a tech-first world 👉 Smart moves to future-proof your workf…

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AI Creates High-Scale, High-Quality Recruitment Process at Foundever 19:18

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In this episode we hear from Irena Flego Maric, Global Talent Acquisition Leader and HR Technology Strategist at Foundever, one of the largest customer service companies in the world. She describes how the company is transforming its highly demanding recruitment process with next-gen AI. The company uses Maki People’s AI-powered solution to manage …

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LH #114 Learning Technologies 2025 Special with Josh Bersin, Daniel Hulme, David Kelly, etc. 3:01:17

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AI shockwaves and human resilience in L&D At the Learning Technologies Conference 2025, John Helmer speaks with leading voices in learning and AI—including Josh Bersin, Daniel Hulme, David Kelly, Jerome Pereira, Sophie Costin, Tadelayo Sodipe, and Donald H. Taylor—about disruption, ethics, innovation, and the changing role of L&D. 00:03:08 - Intro …

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The "Workflow-Ization" Of All HR Software - AI Changes Everything 15:28

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This week I discuss the total re-engineering of HR and business software and why the “functional application” approach is going to be destroyed by workflow-oriented systems. I apologize for the slightly awkward voice, I recorded this on a long walk this morning! I discuss ServiceNow, Maki People, Galileo, Hubspot, Salesforce, HiBob, Workday, SAP, P…

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Galileo Now Embedded Within ServiceNow and HiBob 6:24

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This week we announce the deep integration of Galileo, the world’s AI Assistant for HR, into ServiceNow (Now Assist) and the fast-growing HCM system HiBob. This means you can now access Galileo in the flow of work. Additional Information Announcement Details The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents Q&A: Get Galileo fo…

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Welcome To AI Agent World! (Everything you need to know about the AI Agent market.) 25:33

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This week, in advance of major announcements from us and other vendors, I give you a good overview of the AI Agent market, and discuss the new role of AI governance platforms, AI agent development tools, AI agent vendors, and how AI agents will actually manifest and redefine what we call an “application.” I discuss ServiceNow, Microsoft, SAP, Workd…

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Dara Engle, CHRO of ORIX, Describes Global HR Governance 19:20

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In this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Dara Engle, CHRO of ORIX USA, speaks with Kathi Enderes to explore the power of systemic HR in transforming a global organization. Discover how Dara navigates the complexities of leading HR in a multinational context, leveraging her extensive experience to drive strategic alignment and transformation. From …

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Amy Wilson, Product Strategy Advisor @ Reejig 38:39

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In this episode, Amy Wilson sits with Siobhan Savage to share what decades at the intersection of vision and execution have taught her about transforming enterprise platforms. ✨Enjoyed our Skills Connect episode with Amy? Explore our other resources ✨ Register to Skills Connect Series ➡️ https://tinyurl.com/registertoskillsc... Register to Skills M…

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Gareth Flynn, CEO of TQSolutions 51:08

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In this episode of Skills Connect, Gareth Flynn, CEO of TQSolutions, shares insights from global research on building skills-based organizations. With Siobhan, he unpacks the gap between strategy and execution, reveals trends in workforce design, and explains why companies keep missing the mark—and how to fix it. ✨Enjoyed our Skills Connect episode…

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Is The HR Profession As We Know It Doomed? In A Way The Answer is Yes. 32:03

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In this week’s podcast I discuss my meetings with many companies in Europe about “how to rapidly implement AI” to improve productivity and scale. And every single company is being asked to do this now, some with very mature and sophisticated plans. So the first question I ask is “how do we implement AI to improve the productivity of the company” an…

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What Does AI-Native Mean? How "AI-First" Apps Change HR. 20:50

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This week I discuss this massive shift toward “AI-Native” applications and systems which are radically different from traditional HR Tech, with a particular focus on L&D. I also explain how new AI architectures are so completely different from our traditional types of HR platforms, and how vendors have to be more expansive with their thinking. Vend…

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Transforming The Talent Acquisition Function at NHS, UK 18:37

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Alfredo Thompson, Chief People Officer at Royal United Hospitals Bath, NHS Foundation Trust, talks with Kathi Enderes about how he is leading an end-to-end transformation of talent acquisition and onboarding for the Trust. Built on principles of customer orientation and systemic HR®, the organization shifted recruitment from a compliance-oriented f…

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How AI Is Blowing Up The Corporate Learning Market: The Whole Story 36:24

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This week I detail the whole story: how the $360 billion corporate learning market is being blown up by AI. This tidal wave has now arrived, with every major company asking “how can I get rid of a third of my training department and deliver skills faster in the flow of work?” What happens to the Chief Learning Officer? What happens to the LMS? Is I…

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The Galileo™ Mercury Release: Reasoning, Talent Intelligence & More 12:13

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Introducing the Galileo Mercury Release: a new reasoning model, extensive new data and information from Lightcast, the Universal Competency Framework from SHL, and our first “consultant mode” feature, Intelligent Benchmarking. Galileo is now the essential AI tool for HR professionals around the world. Get Galileo Today!…

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Meg Bear, Board Director at Heidrick & Struggles 49:19

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For this episode, boardroom veteran Meg Bear (Board Director at Heidrick & Struggles, former President of SAP SuccessFactors) joins Siobhan for an insider's look at scaling businesses from startup to $2B. ✨Enjoyed our Skills Connect episode with Meg? Explore our other resources ✨ Register to Skills Connect Series ➡️ https://tinyurl.com/registertosk…

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The Impact Of "Tariff Liberation Day" on Human Resources 19:28

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This week the economic environment changed, with new US reciprocal tariffs launched on 180 countries. The net impact, which is hard to predict, is lots of strategy discussions about manufacturing, redeployment of resources, price increases, and possible economic slowdown. In today’s podcast I explain what this means to you, as an HR leader or HR pr…

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Are You An Innovative HR Officer? Hear From Jörg Dersch of XPAY 19:35

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Jörg Dersch, CHRO at XPAY, joins Kathi Enderes to discusses innovation in HR and how CHRO’s can stay ahead. He also shares advice to CEOs about their role in HR issues. He shares his journey into HR leadership and how HR leaders can become true strategic partners in their organizations. From navigating digital transformation to building business ac…

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LH #112: Learning Futures 3 with Kevin Oakes, Kim McMurdo and Terry Jones 1:15:31

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Leading Through Culture, Teams, and AI-driven Change John Helmer discusses organizational culture, collective leadership, and AI's impact on future workplaces with Kevin Oakes (CEO, i4cp), Kim McMurdo (Global Head of OD, Standard Chartered), and Terry Jones (International Head of Talent Development, ex-PaloAlto Networks). Key themes include culture…

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Does Kindness Matter In Business? Today, Yes, More Than Ever. 16:42

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What’s the solution to political, economic, and global conflict? It’s not more anger and competition, it’s kindness. In this podcast I try to convince you that Kindness, the act of listening, caring, and helping, is a real secret weapon. Additional Information The World Happiness Report (which proves that trust and social connections matter more th…

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Kason Morris, Global Director @ Merck 57:20

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In this episode, we're going behind the headlines. Kason Morris, Global Director at Merck, joins Siobhan to reveal how leading organizations are quietly transforming workforce strategy while others are still catching up to yesterday's trends. ✨Enjoyed our Skills Connect episode with Kason? Explore our other resources ✨ Register to Skills Connect Se…

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U.S. Tariffs Force CHROs to Rethink Talent Strategy—Are You Ready? 10:22

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Today I wanted to briefly discuss the impact of US Tariffs on manufacturing talent. As many of you know, decisions about where to locate manufacturing are very big and very important. As you’ll hear, much of your company’s response may come down to talent and skills issues, since manufacturing skills are in short supply. I hope this conversation he…

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How Draup Is Expanding The World Of Talent Intelligence 26:07

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Today I talk with Vijay Swaminathan, the CEO and co-founder of Draup, one of the most amazing data and insights providers in HR. Vijay and his partner Vamsee Tirukkala were the original founders of Talent Neuron, a pioneer in talent planning. Now, with Draup, they’ve gone an order of magnitude beyond to build a data platform that identifies skills,…

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Dennis Di Lorenzo, Director of Skilling Strategy @ Micron 1:00:51

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In this episode of Skills Connect, Siobhan Savage sits down with Dennis Di Lorenzo, Director of Skilling Strategy at Micron, to discuss the bold reinvention of work in the AI era. They dive deep into why job architectures are outdated, how businesses should rethink workforce design, and the intersection of AI, work, and human capability. ✨Enjoyed o…

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Trish Steed, Co-Founder of H3 HR Advisors 1:06:35

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In this episode of Skills Connect, Siobhan Savage sits down with Trish Steed, co-founder of H3HR Advisory, to discuss the evolving role of HR in a world reshaped by AI. From navigating uncertainty to aligning HR strategies with business priorities, Trish brings her deep industry insights and no-nonsense perspective on what HR leaders need to focus …

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Brian Hackett, Founder of The Learning Forum 34:54

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In this episode, Brian Hackett, founder of The Learning Forum, sits down with Siobhan to explore how the Work Design Collaborative - an initiative uniting 30 transformation leaders - is lighting the path forward through collective innovation. ✨Enjoyed our Skills Connect episode with Brian? Explore our other resources ✨ Register to Skills Connect Se…

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The Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins: Join The Crusade 19:12

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In this podcast I describe the massive AI-powered revolution starting in corporate L&D, and give you some history, context, and a mandate for the future. This is based on a massive research program we’ve been doing for the last year and I’m now convinced that this entire $360 Billion market is going to reinvent itself. Vendors mentioned include San…

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CodeSignal: Groundbreaking AI Skills Assessment Arrives 20:32

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Tigran Sloyan, CEO of CodeSignal, talks with Kathi Enderes about his company’s mission to transform skills assessment and development with AI. He shares insights from his experience at Google, where he recognized flaws in hiring practices that prioritize resumes over actual skills. Tigran explains how CodeSignal evolved from technical skills assess…

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LH #111 Is D.E.I. Now D.O.A.? with Amri B. Johnson 52:27

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The Battle To Keep Inclusion on the Organizational Agenda. Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (D.E.I.) under existential threat? With political shifts and corporate cutbacks, is this the end of D.E.I. as we know it—or just a moment of transformation? In this episode, John Helmer speaks with Amri B. Johnson, author of Reconstructing Inclusion and C…

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Tasks vs. Skills: Stories In AI-Based Job Transformation 19:44

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Everyone is talking about productivity, layoffs, and job redesign. In this week’s podcast I share much of what we’re learning in AI-based job design, all with a focus on productivity. I discuss the role of Reejig, Gloat, Draup and the shift from “skills-based organization” strategies to “task and activity” redesign. And I also share my experiences …

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How CHROs Shape The Workforce Of The Future: Caryn McGarry of ICF 18:06

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In this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Caryn McGarry, CHRO of ICF, describes her journey to CHRO how she manages HR in a highly competitive professional services company. Caryn shares insights on the detailed nature of the C-suite partnership and how her unique career path contributes to her C-level business role today. ICF is a large profession…

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Bonus Episode: What Happened To Our Sense Of Trust? 16:11

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After an intense week in Europe at an HR Technology conference, I want to share my deep perspectives on Trust, which is in very short supply these days. Not only do European leaders mistrust the US right now, the Edelman Trust Barometer shows that 2/3 of employees no longer trust the CEOs of their own companies. In an effort to help you think this …

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Don't Be Afraid: AI Is Your Friend 19:11

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After a long week of meetings about AI transformation with many companies, I want to highlight the big paradox we face. On one hand, AI is now seen as a proven, pragmatic solution to productivity, growth, and customer experience. So every company is pushing for AI transformations in every domain. But on the other hand, AI is also likely to eliminat…

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LH #110 Will AI Wipe Out L&D? with Robert Guidi 1:10:03

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In this episode, John Helmer engages with UK-based artificial intelligence expert Robert Guidi to explore the potential impact of AI on Learning and Development (L&D). With a background in data science and technology policy, Robert has worked across industries to help organizations navigate the opportunities and risks of AI adoption, translating co…

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AI Transformation From The Frontlines: Lessons Learned, Why Employees Are Worried 20:40

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This week I summarize some of the hard-hitting AI transformation and productivity stories we’re hearing from clients, and I explain the various ways to approach these topics. I also discuss the surprising pushback on DEI and how workforce fear and stress has risen in our companies. All this leads to a new and important new role for HR leaders: driv…

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The Death of Traditional Learning Models—What Comes Next with Kathleen Mattie 44:37

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In this episode, Siobhan Savage chats with Kathleen Mattie, Executive Director of Global Learning and Leadership Development at Estée Lauder. They dive into capability building, learning strategies, and transformational talent development programs that align with strategic goals, empower employees’ career growth, and future-proof the workforce. ✨En…

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AI Arrives In Corporate Learning: Welcome to Arist 18:06

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This week I interview CEO of Arist Michael Ioffe, one of the most innovative entrepreneurs I’ve met. Michael and his team have built an astounding message-based learning platform that uses AI to build content, distribute content, and even do needs analysis. For those of you who are L&D or learning geeks, you really need to listen to this podcast. A…