General Counsel and Chief Legal Officers hold some of the highest-ranking and most vital executive roles within any company or organization. These positions are both prestigious and deeply impactful, making them a pinnacle aspiration for many corporate lawyers. However, the journey to earning these titles is complex, demanding not only technical legal expertise but also exceptional leadership and strategic vision. Welcome to Becoming the GC, hosted by Joseph Schohl, a growth-focused General ...
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The Evolving Lawyer: Sterling Miller On Lessons From The Game Of Life
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53:42Sterling Miller has spent decades turning real-world experience into wisdom that every lawyer can use. From his early lessons in Nebraska to leading major legal teams and mastering AI for lawyers, Sterling’s journey shows how curiosity and courage shape lasting success. In this conversation with Joseph Schohl, he reflects on the pivotal moments tha…
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The Long-Term Impact Of Lifelong Learning With Carlos Lindo
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41:19When you land in the GC chair, you cannot sit back and relax. If you want to perform well in your role and inspire others to do the same, you must learn to embrace lifelong learning. Joseph Schohl sits down with Carlos Lindo, a newly minted general counsel at Lucet, to talk about the importance of being a constant learner who does not back down fro…
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Leading With Authenticity: C.E. Rhodes On Clarity, Service, And Solving Problems
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50:40Authentic leadership starts with knowing who you are and leading from that truth. C.E. Rhodes, General Counsel of Frost Bank, shares how purpose, empathy, and consistency have guided his journey from early influences to executive leadership. He reflects on the lessons learned from connecting the legal function to the business, mentoring others with…
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Beyond the Law: Chuck Kable on Bold Moves, Legal Innovation, and Leading with Heart
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40:39A general counsel’s work, even though not without its fair share of challenges, is truly a worthwhile one. Joseph Schohl is joined by Chuck Kable, Chief Legal Officer and Secretary at Innovative Renal Care, who shares his career path from litigation to in-house counsel. Looking back to his numerous GC positions, he discusses how this legal role has…
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From the Ballpark to the Boardroom: Bart Peach on Leadership, Legal Mastery, and Thriving In-House
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43:33Working as a lawyer in an in-house context is not a topic you would encounter in law school. Bart Peach, General Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Unio Health Partners, joins Joseph Schohl to share a glimpse of his legal career as an in-house counsel. He shares what every GC should know about this kind of job and how to prepare for it, from b…
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Navigating The GC Role: From Law Firm Partner To In-House Leader With David Katz
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42:55The GC role today demands more than legal expertise—it requires vision, adaptability, and business acumen. In this insightful discussion, David Katz, a seasoned legal professional, shares his unconventional journey from a long-standing law firm partner to a thriving General Counsel. Discover the pivotal moments that shaped his career, the challenge…
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Navigating The Complexities Of Healthcare Law & Leadership With Terri Cammarano
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33:54Blending legal expertise with strategic leadership is paramount in the complex realm of healthcare administration. In this episode, we're privileged to feature Terri Cammarano, Senior Vice President of Legal Affairs and General Counsel at Cedars-Sinai, a distinguished figure in California's healthcare landscape. Terri shares her extraordinary journ…
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Biotech Leadership: How Jean Liu Mastered The Shift From GC To Board Roles
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41:19Biotech leadership requires a unique blend of scientific acumen, legal expertise, and business savvy, a combination that our guest Jean Liu embodies perfectly. In this episode, we dive deep with Jean, a biotech executive and seasoned board member with a robust scientific background and over 20 years of experience as a chief legal officer, including…
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Expanding Globally: Hemang Shah Shares Expertise In Corporate Law And Cross-Border Transactions
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32:08Understanding the complexities of corporate law is crucial for businesses aiming for global expansion, and our guest, Hemang Shah, offers a unique perspective on both. In this episode, we dive deep with Hemang, a partner at Jones Day, who brings a wealth of experience from his time as one of the youngest general counsels of a major publicly traded …
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Lessons In Leadership For In-House Counsel with Christy Crase
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31:57Christy Crase shares her remarkable journey to becoming in-house counsel, transitioning from intense law firm work to leading legal teams at Professional Case Management and PCM Trials. In this episode, Christy opens up about what it takes to succeed as in-house counsel — from balancing legal risk with business growth to building a legal department…
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What It Takes To Embrace A Leadership Role With Stacy Bratcher
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31:33Embracing any leadership role requires not only the necessary skills or knowledge. It is also about taking initiative, building relationships, and driving actual results. Joseph Schohl welcomes Stacy Bratcher, Senior Vice President and Chief Legal Officer at Cottage Health, to discuss her journey from private practice to leading a legal team of a b…
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How Intuition Fuels Home Run Decisions: Tommy Haldorsen Of Galardi Group
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37:28Trust your intuition—it's the secret to hitting home runs in your career and personal life, according to Tommy Haldorsen, General Counsel at Galardi Group, Inc. Tommy dives deep into his career journey, sharing his experiences navigating tricky transitions, unique challenges, and triumphs of legal work. He also emphasizes the power of building stro…
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A Passion For Healthcare: Caren Weakley Of Sutter Health
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29:31Driven by a passion for healthcare, Caren Weakley, General Counsel of Sutter Health, shares her inspiring journey from law school to leading a major healthcare legal team. Discover how she prioritizes leadership over just legal expertise, building high-performing teams, fostering genuine relationships, and driving success. Caren highlights her care…
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Building A Powerful Network And Expanding Your Influence: Stephen Chu Of InStride
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39:28When it comes to building a powerful network and expanding your influence as a legal leader, few people embody that journey better than Stephen Chu. From his early days in big law to becoming Chief Legal and Administrative Officer at InStride, Stephen has navigated the legal world with an impressive mix of strategic thinking and adaptability. In th…
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