Decoding Taylor Swift will transform how you think about Swift’s songs. It will also teach you the storytelling tools Swift uses that make her a modern-day Shakespeare, but can make you a better communicator and help your content go viral, so you can drive your mission and build your tribe. Rolling Stone magazine put both Taylor and Joe on its list of “The 100 People Who Are Reinventing America.” On this podcast, Joe Romm and his daughter Toni will give you the life-changing tools to lead, c ...
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Why Eldest Daughter is NOT about Taylor Swift—and what it really means.
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Eldest Daughter may be the most controversial song on “The Life of a Showgirl.” Joe and Toni dive headfirst into the controversies about whether this song is too cringe, while raising the provocative question of whether this song is actually about Taylor Swift. And you won’t want to miss our fast-paced interview with an editor at The New Yorker who…
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Taylor’s genius trick in Father Figure will blow your mind and solve a big Swiftian mystery
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One of Swift's biggest mysteries is why she has so many songs with bad or missing father figures, including many tracks on “The Life of a Showgirl.” In this must-see episode, Joe and Toni fully decode Father Figure, solve the mystery, and reveal one of Taylor’s most ingenious musical devices. They also explain the many illuminating connections betw…
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Opalite’s real meaning reveals a hard truth about Taylor Swift's songs
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Opalite does NOT mean what you think it does—as you’ll learn in this eye-opening episode. The #2 song in America may seem like a simple bop, but in reality, it’s a complex lyrical gem that shines a whole new light on the album. PLUS, we have a must-see interview with the brilliant Charlie Harding, a songwriter who co-hosts the award-winning hit pod…
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EXCLUSIVE! An Elizabeth Taylor expert helps us decode the meaning of Swift’s hit song.
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Joe and Toni talk to Ben Mankiewicz, an expert on Liz Taylor and Cleopatra—who are both quintessential showgirls Swift is obsessed with. In the episode’s middle segment, the three discuss the many parallels between the two Taylors that Swift alludes to in the song. Ben is an amazing storyteller and host of the podcast The Plot Thickens whose latest…
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How Decoding The Fate of Ophelia’s REAL Meaning Unlocks the Whole Album’s Meaning
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This episode will change how you think about Taylor’s entire album! Joe and Toni explain the real meaning of The Fate Of Ophelia— the #1 song in America AND the world—and how it is the key to decoding what Taylor called the “perfect puzzle” of the entire album. You’ll learn the real meaning of the music video and the remarkable parallels between th…
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Taylor Swift’s ‘Life of a Showgirl’: Ironic, Raunchy Lyrics' REAL Meaning | Season 2 Premiere
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Taylor promised on Travis’s New Heights podcast that the 12 songs on ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ would ‘fit together like a perfect puzzle.’ But her critics’ hot takes mostly miss this point and misfire. So, in Season 2, Joe and Toni will help you solve this puzzle by decoding the REAL meaning of each episode—the irony and karmic twists beneath the li…
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What the Stunning Meaning of ‘Cardigan' and ‘Folklore’ Foreshadows for Her New Album | #13
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Taylor told Travis on his New Heights podcast that ‘The Life of a Showgirl’ will have the same kind of storytelling she used so movingly on Folklore. So, Joe and Toni decode her unforgettable hit song ‘Cardigan’—the heart of both the album and its teenage love triangle—to reveal Betty’s unexpectedly tragic fate. This episode will transform how you …
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The Karmic Secret to Decoding ‘Life of a Show Girl’ Starts with Decoding ‘Shake It Off' | #12
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If you want to fully decode Taylor’s new album dropping October 3, you’ll need to understand the 2 types of irony Taylor, Max Martin, and Shellback use in songs like “Shake It Off.” That #1 hit seems like a basic bop, but it’s not. Joe and Toni reveal how Taylor and her co-writers convey their true meaning by combining the first kind of irony—"when…
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EXCLUSIVE improv preview of all 12 tracks of ‘The Life of a Show Girl’ sung by Toni | #11
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A must-see episode that reveals all the pre-release secrets of “The Life of a Showgirl” you won’t hear anywhere else. Plus Toni sings (for the first time!) improvised previews of all 12 tracks. You’ll learn what Taylor and Ophelia have in common, plus everything we know about each song. Then Toni improvs her version of a verse, chorus or bridge for…
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The Stunning Twist of Taylor's Tortured Poets Department Everyone Misses | #10
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In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni reveal the unforgettable reason Taylor is a tortured poet, which she encodes in the title track of The Tortured Poets Department. They take a deep dive into the lyrics, unpacking Swift’s rich use of allusion, irony, and hyperbole. They also break down Taylor’s viral two-hour sit-down on New Hei…
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What Taylor's 'Cruel Summer' Can Teach You About How To Go Viral | #9
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In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni dive headfirst into “Cruel Summer,” one of Taylor’s most beloved songs—and one drenched in hyperbole. They decode the fever dreams, Shakespeare nods, and lyrical exaggerations that make it one of her most powerful storytelling feats. It’s part song breakdown, part storytelling workshop, and 100…
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Seeing 'Red': Why Metaphors Are the Most Important Viral Storyteller Trick You Must Master | #8
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Taylor Swift doesn’t just write songs. She writes modern-day allegories. In this episode, we crack open “Red,” one of Swift’s most metaphor-dense tracks, to uncover why metaphors aren’t just lyrical flourishes but memory tricks that make stories unforgettable. From Maseratis on dead-end streets to falling autumn leaves, Joe and Toni explore how Swi…
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The Word Wizadry That Explains Taylor's First #1 Hit | #7
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It’s the breakup heard ‘round the world and the lyric that won’t leave your head: We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together. But this isn’t just a catchy chorus. It’s a masterclass in how to make words unforgettable. In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni break down the viral storytelling trick behind Taylor’s first #1 pop hit, w…
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The Trick That Makes Taylor's Blank Space a Memorable Masterpiece | #6
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Taylor Swift’s “Blank Space” isn’t just a pop masterpiece. It’s a storytelling clinic. In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni dive into the art of antithesis—the rhetorical power of opposites that makes lines like 'Cause darling I’m a nightmare dressed like a daydream unforgettable. From invisible “buts” to Oscar Wilde to the timele…
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Taylor’s Top Storytelling Secret plus What But Daddy I Love You REALLY Means | #5
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If you master Taylor’s one-word storytelling secret, you'll be better at writing, speaking, and making your content go viral online. This week, Joe and Toni reveal that one game-changing word— the beautiful ”but”—and the simple “cool rule” that the greatest storytellers use to maximize its power. “But” is the word that introduces conflict and tensi…
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Why does Taylor start with “Once upon a time”? What does “scheming like a criminal” have to do with owning your power? And how can you use her approach to write and speak with precision, impact, and purpose? This week on Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni take on “Mastermind,” one of Taylor’s most lyrically complex and strategically structured son…
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What Taylor Swift’s “Anti-Hero” Can Teach You About Owning Your Story | #3
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What if your personal growth—and your power to inspire others—hinged on how well you tell your story? In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni Romm unpack the storytelling power of “Anti-Hero” through the lens of the Hero’s Journey. You'll learn how to position yourself as the protagonist of your own life, why building your narrative …
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What makes something unforgettable? In this episode of Decoding Taylor Swift, Joe and Toni dive into Taylor’s most emotionally gutting and lyrically layered masterpiece. Using “All Too Well” as the anchor, they break down the science and art of memory, why repetition works, and how metaphors make meaning stick. From Homer to The Hunger Games, Scarl…
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Welcome to the first episode of Decoding Taylor Swift! In this podcast, you’ll learn the storytelling tools Taylor Swift uses that make HER a modern-day Shakespeare, but can make YOU a better communicator, so you can drive your mission and build your tribe. This podcast will transform how you think about Swift’s songs and give you the life-changing…
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