Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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Social media, anti-social media, breaking news, faking news: this is the programme about a revolution in media.
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Play for Today relaunch, diversity in advertising, streaming consolidation, Bettany Hughes and Treasures of the World
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42:52Katie Razzall and guests discuss some of this week's media stories including:The relaunch of the drama series Play for Today by Channel 5 with actors Anita Dobson and Nigel Havers who star in one of the new productions and Graham Kibble-White Head of TV & Radio at The Telegraph.After Reform MP Sarah Pochin complained about adverts being "full" of b…
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693: Holy Post LIVE from Chicago 2025
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1:22:11This week is Halloween, and on this special episode recorded with a live audience, the Holy Post hosts discuss why our culture isn't afraid of monsters and demons anymore. How did all of our pop culture heroes and villains become morally ambiguous? Also, would communal living solve our loneliness epidemic? Kaitlyn is all for it, but Skye isn't so s…
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Reporting on the Prince Andrew scandal, 'slow journalism' and how AI is influencing how we consume news
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42:35Ros Atkins talks to Paul Salopek the journalist who’s walking around the world in search of stories. We catch up with him in Alaska. We’ll hear about new research on how AI is influencing how we consume news - and what impact that is having on the information we trust - with Luke Tryl, from the think tank More in Common, and Niamh Burns, senior ana…
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692: Vertical vs. Horizontal Morality & Rediscovering Confession with Jamin Goggin
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1:26:25A recent article tries to explain why so many politically active Christians behave unchristianly in the public square by differentiating "vertical" and "horizontal" sources of morality. The Holy Post crew examines the argument and finds it weak. Has MAGA ignited a revival in the U.S.? David French says we may be confusing a political revolution for…
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Reporting the Gaza ceasefire, Bari Weiss profile, Today in Parliament
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42:16Channel 4’s Krishnan Guru-Murthy and The Independent’s Bel Trew join us to discuss their reporting on the Gaza ceasefire. Professor Lee Edwards from the LSE analyses how the media has been framing recent events. Also on the programme, who is the new editor-in-chief of CBS News? Semafor’s Max Tani profiles Bari Weiss. Plus, the BBC’s Susan Hulme ref…
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691: The Antichrist, Illiberalism, & Why Gen Z Accepts Political Violence with Elizabeth Neumann
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1:26:37In a series of invitation-only, off-the-record lectures about Christianity, technology billionaire Peter Thiel said the antichrist is trying to regulate technology and billionaires. Which raises the question—Why do we always remake Christ in our image and the antichrist in our enemies'? Gen Z is making conservative Christianity more angry, intolera…
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Steve Rosenberg, Zanny Minton Beddoes, new Victoria Beckham documentary and the ethics of secret filming
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43:24Katie Razall on some of the week's biggest media stories: BBC Russia Editor, Steve Rosenberg, on winning the Charles Wheeler Award for outstanding contribution to broadcast journalism. Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor in Chief of the Economist on their new video podcast Insider which launches this week. What are the editorial and ethical issues around …
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690: Flying Bishops, Evangelical Ignorance, & Slow Theology with A.J. Swoboda & Nijay Gupta
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1:29:40For the first time ever, the U.K. has appointed a woman as the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the global Anglican Communion. Kaitlyn, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss the implications of appointment and how Anglicans use "flying bishops" to maintain unity over divisive theological issues. Are there lessons here for other divided Christian communities?…
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TV rights and the Boat Race, conspiracy theories in the media ecosystem, Larry Ellison, Newspaper legal challenge to Reform UK
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42:43Ros Atkins on some of the biggest media stories this week. As the BBC loses TV rights to the Boat Race – we talk to Siobhan Cassidy Chair of the Boat Race Company and Pete Andrews, Head of Sport at Channel 4 which will now broadcast the annual event. We profile the tech billionaire Larry Ellison – as he steps further into the media world - with Tel…
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689: The Rapture, Repentance, & Redefining the Good Life with Grace Hamman
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1:27:37After a South African pastor claimed that Christ would come for his church on September 23, TikTok became rapture obsessed. Mike Erre joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss our ongoing fixation with this bad theology, why people get caught up in rapture predictions, and how it damages the credibility of the faith. Kaitlyn talks to Medieval scholar, Grac…
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Reporting on migrant hotels, Jimmy Kimmel's return, The Hack
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43:01A new BBC investigation into the government's use of hotels to house migrants has led to the government ordering an urgent review into its findings. Journalist Sue Mitchell explains how she got access to record inside these hotels. As Jimmy Kimmel returns to the screen, Brian Stelter, CNN's chief media analyst, assesses what it means for relations …
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688: The MAGA Contradiction & Educational Injustice with Terence Lester
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1:25:51The memorial service for Charlie Kirk revealed a deep contradiction with the MAGA movement. Kirk's widow was cheered when she forgave his assassin and modeled Jesus' command to love your enemies. But the crowd also cheered when Stephen Miller and President Trump dehumanized their opponents and expressed hatred for their enemies. Esau McCaulley join…
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Guto Harri, James O Brien, Isabel Oakeshott on the Unite the Kingdom rally and the Charlie Kirk Shooting, Tim Davie
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42:39Katie Razzall speaks to the Director General of the BBC Tim Davie at the Royal Television Society Festival. Ros Atkins discusses the language used by the media to discuss the Unite the Kingdom rally and the shooting of Charlie Kirk with studio guests Guto Harri, James O Brien and Isabel Oakeshott. Producer: Lisa JenkinsonAssistant Producer: Lucy Wa…
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687: Charlie Kirk & the Conflict Entrepreneurs
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1:00:12Last week, a gunman in Utah killed Charlie Kirk on a college campus. Rather than uniting the country against political violence, Kirk's assassination has only made divisions wider. Some on the left celebrated his death, saying he reaped what he sowed, while some on the right, including the President, are calling for retribution against all leftists…
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Super Mario is 40, Russia Whatsapp ban, Murdoch succession, The media v The Judiciary?
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43:06Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall on Super Mario at 40 with the Guardian's Video Games Editor Keza MacDonald, State crackdowns on social media in Russia and Nepal with Eva Hartog from Politico and Dr Nayana Prakash from Chatham House. Also resolution in the Murdoch family succession battle with Claire Atkinson from The Media Mix and the impact of media …
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686: Shootings, Single Fathers, & the Shadow Side of Ambition with Miroslav Volf
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1:23:59Following the school shooting in Minneapolis, The Christian Post has offered a definitive answer for why these massacres keep happening and why gun restrictions won't work—people are evil. But why don't politically conservative Christians apply this logic to any other issues? Surprising new data show that more young men than women want to be parent…
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Reform UK media strategy, French Bloquons Tout protestors, new Vogue editor & the British journalist who interviewed Hitler.
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42:55The Media Show with Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins:The Nottingham Post and BBC-funded Local Democracy Reporters have been banned from speaking to Reform UK councillors. The dispute centres on a story about local government reorganisation. Nottinghamshire Live Senior Editor Natalie Fahy joins us to explain what happened, and Kitty Donaldson, Chief Pol…
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685: Finding Unity in a Divided Church with Beth Moore
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1:16:13Is unity in the church still possible when everyone is so divided? At the Legacy Conference in Chicago, Beth Moore joins Esau, Kaitlyn, and Skye to wrestle with what it means to remain in community with believers we deeply disagree with. Together they explore why purity tests are dividing Christians online, how cynicism masquerades as wisdom, and w…
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Noel Clarke libel case, AI articles, filming wildlife
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42:50Actor Noel Clarke has lost his libel case against The Guardian. The paper had run a series of stories containing allegations of sexual misconduct. The judgment found that the meaning of each of the newspaper’s articles was ‘substantially true’. We speak to The Guardian's Sirin Kale, one of the reporters behind the original reporting. Plus, legal co…
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684: Dobson Died, Cracker Barrel Cancelled, & Flipping Christian Politics with James Talarico
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1:36:02James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, died this week. Critics are saying Dobson was the "godfather of child abuse," while his fans are saying he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of evangelicalism. Who's right? Phil, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss Dobson's legacy and why the controversial conservative is secretly responsible for the creation o…
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Trading off the news, Edinburgh TV Festival, how the global media covered White House peace talks
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42:40Ros Atkins talks to Hollywood insider and founder of the digital media company Puck Matt Belloni and Camilla Lewis from Curve Media at the Edinburgh TV Festival. Sam Koppelman from Hunterbrook Media on his new business model to trade off the news and how has the global media covered the Ukraine peace talks at the White House. It was the first day i…
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683: The Meaning of the Scopes Monkey Trial 100yrs Later with Chris Staron
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1:29:16New data shows the nations with the highest standards of living are seeing the sharpest declines in wellbeing, while people in poorer countries are reporting more happiness. What's going on? David Brooks' recent article looked at data from 142 countries, and he concludes that spirituality and social connection, not just wealth, are critical to huma…
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Journalists in Gaza, AI Avatar, Housing Journalism, True Crime
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42:53After an Israeli attack in Gaza City killed four Al Jazeera journalists, including correspondent Anas al-Sharif, we examine the situation for journalists in Gaza with Jodie Ginsberg, CEO of the Committee to Protect Journalists. Oren Persico from Israeli news website Seventh Eye discusses how Israeli media is covering the war. A journalist's exchang…
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682: Why We Still Need the Institutional Church with Brad Edwards
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1:26:49The Holy Post crew is suspicious of a new study that finds MAGA supporters score higher in authoritarianism, social dominance, and malevolent personality traits, while liberals score higher in compassion and empathy. Church planter, Brad Edwards, says many of us hold beliefs, language, and values that sabotage our ability to benefit from participat…
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Return of MasterChef, No. 10's TikTok Strategy, Bluey on YouTube, Investigating Tesla
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42:44MasterChef has returned to our screens. We hear from the BBC journalist who first broke the story about allegations of misconduct and ask what the future holds for one of the BBC’s biggest brands. As Downing Street holds its first ever influencer reception, we speak to one of the TikTok creators who attended and the journalist who first reported on…
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681: Strategically Small Churches with Brandon O'Brien
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1:21:21A whites-only community has launched in Arkansas under the legal guise of a "private membership association." The founders claim it's about preserving culture, but Skye and Phil aren't buying it. Then, Brent Leatherwood, head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public policy arm, has resigned after years of pressure from hardline conservatives. Wh…
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Christiane Amanpour, Dead Internet Theory, Food journalism
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42:31What is the ‘dead internet theory’ and what does it tell us about our anxieties about AI? The Economist’s Alex Hern explains. We also hear from Newsguard’s Isis Blachez about a network of fake news sites built not for people – but to manipulate what answers we get from AI chat bots. Plus, Mark Graham from the Internet Archive discusses how the orga…
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680: Cancelling Colbert, Starving Gaza, & American Charisma with Molly Worthen
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1:23:52CBS has cancelled the top-rated late-night talk show. Was it really a financial decision, or was it done to get the Trump administration to approve a corporate merger? And will Stephen Colbert now come on the Holy Post? Horrific images of starvation are coming out of Gaza as pressure builds on the Israeli government to end the war, but when does pr…
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YouTube media coverage of Epping migrant hotel protests, Catholic influencers, Claims journalists in Gaza face starvation
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42:55Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss some of the biggest media stories this week, including how the protests at the migrant hotel in Epping are being covered by different media outlets. Videos by YouTube journalist Wesley Winter have been seen hundreds and thousands of times online. Cristina Nicolotti Squires, Ofcom’s Broadcasting and Media Group D…
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679: Individualism, Transhumanism, & Learning from Abolitionists with Daniel Lee Hill
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1:28:25Why is our society so fractured and angry? David Brooks' recent article draws from the work of moral philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre to explain how we got here, but what is the solution? With the growth of A.I., some Christians think technology may be how God redeems humanity and gives us eternal life. But is this still Christianity or a strange new…
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Afghan data breach superinjunction, Future of the BBC, Tour de France
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42:48This week a super-injunction was lifted that allowed the press to report on a story it’s known about for some time – the Ministry of Defence’s leaking of personal details of almost 19,000 Afghan people who had applied to move to the UK. The Times’s Larisa Brown tells us how she, alongside other journalists, fought the super-injunction. The BBC’s An…
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678: Is Gen Z Having a Religious Revival? with Ryan Burge
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1:30:18The IRS has decided churches are no longer prohibited from endorsing political candidates. Is this a win for free speech or a reason for some churches to become even more partisan? The Department of Homeland Security has released a creepy new promotional video that uses the Bible to frame border security as a mission from God. The Christian who gav…
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Gregg Wallace, The Salt Path, Oasis reunion tour, migrant small boats media coverage
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42:51Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins discuss some of the main media stories in the news this week including the latest allegations about TV presenter Gregg Wallace with Max Goldbart, International TV Editor at Deadline. French police have been filmed getting tough with migrants getting into dinghies to cross the Channel this week, but was it just for the c…
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677: Ending PEPFAR & Why the Self-Esteem Movement Failed with Sharon Hodde Miller
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1:25:48When George W. Bush created the PEPFAR program in 2003, it was celebrated by evangelical leaders and has saved more than 26 million lives in Africa from HIV/AIDS. So why weren't evangelicals outraged when Donald Trump killed PEPFAR, which has already resulted in over 75,000 deaths since January? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn unpack the arguments for and …
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Broadcasting Gaza: Doctors Under Attack, Tim Franks, F1’s media strategy
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42:53As Channel 4 airs the Gaza documentary that the BBC has shelved, we speak to Dorothy Byrne, former Head of News and Current Affairs at Channel 4; Rosamund Urwin from The Sunday Times; and Chris Banatvala, former Director of Standards at Ofcom, about why the broadcasters took contrasting decisions. They also analyse the BBC’s much criticised broadca…
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676: Classroom Culture Wars & the Spirituality of Secular America with Rachel Martin
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1:28:07With Phil on vacation, Kaitlyn and Esau join Skye to talk about the Supreme Court's ruling that public schools must allow students to opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict the religious beliefs of their families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools should hire chaplains to offer spiritual guidance to students. W…
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Jimmy Lai - media tycoon and political prisoner, the new Wargame podcast, Tattle Life gossip website
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43:10Katie Razzall on some of this week's biggest media stories including an interview with Sebastien Lai, the son of the the political prisoner and media tycoon Jimmy Lai.We talk to Minal Modha Head of Sport Media Rights at Ampere Analysis about why the streaming giant Netflix is embracing some traditional linear TV channels.After one couple win libel …
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675: Iran, End Times, & the Political God Gap with Senator Chris Coons
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1:09:08Nothing fires up the End Times industry faster than America dropping bombs in the Middle East. After President Trump decided to attack Iran's nuclear facilities this weekend, YouTube was flooded with convoluted and contradictory videos on the biblical implications of the war. But if this really is a prelude to Christ's return, as many online end ti…
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Reporting on the Israel Iran conflict, influencers on the radio, Reddit at 20, Grenfell Uncovered documentary
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42:46Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on some of the week's biggest media stories: How are journalists reporting on the Israel Iran conflict in the UK and around the world? We talk to Shaina Oppenheimer from BBC Monitoring and Shashank Joshi Defence Editor at the Economist. The traditional pipeline of journalists moving into radio and television presentatio…
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674: Parades, Protests, and Habeas Corpus with Michael Bird
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1:27:03It was a wild weekend. Donald Trump presided over a military parade on his birthday while an estimated 5 million Americans protested around the country. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the optics of both events and ask, with America's divided politics and media silos, is protesting still effective? They also unpack a new article by Abby McCloskey i…
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Sir Martin Sorrell on AI & Advertising, Dan Snow History Hit, the ethics of working with a convicted criminal to tell a story
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42:58Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins with some of the biggest media stories of the week including Sir Martin Sorrell's take on the growth of Artificial Intelligence in the advertising world and how the industry is managing the change with Alex Dalman from the Advertising Association. Dan Snow talks about his History Hit podcast which is about to celebrate …
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673: The L.A. Protests & Becoming a Priest and Podcaster with Esau McCaulley
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1:20:19Protests in Los Angeles against the Trump administration's immigration policies have turned violent, but will the images of vandalism and attacks on police actually help the President? And Phil asks if there is any way to prevent necessary mass protests from becoming violent. One of the most respected Bible scholars of the last century has passed a…
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Reporting from the Hajj at Mecca, Katherine Maher from National Public Radio in America takes on President Trump's funding cuts
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42:41Ros Atkins with some of the week's biggest media stories: Katherine Maher the CEO of National Public Radio in America on the attempts by President Trump to cut federal funding for the network.How does the global media cover the Hajj at Mecca, we talk to ITV reporter Shehab Khan who has visited as a journalist and a pilgirm.The journalist Patrick Mc…
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672: Gender Worship Wars & the Joy of Being Cultural Outsiders with Patrick Miller
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1:31:34In the past, debates over worship styles were often marked by generational differences; however, a new article suggests that this is changing. For Gen Z, worship preferences may be dividing along gender lines instead. For younger Christians, is CCM from Venus and liturgy from Mars? Drew Dyck joins Skye and Kaitlyn to discuss the evidence, the impli…
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Daytime TV crisis? Police media strategy shift after car ploughs into crowd at Liverpool FC parade, Simon Reeve
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42:53Katie Razzall presents some of the big stories in the media this week, including how the police in Merseyside changed their media strategy after a car ploughed into crowds attending a football victory parade in Liverpool. Rebecca Camber, who is security and crime editor at the Daily Mail and chair of the Crime Reporters Association, explains what i…
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671: Mailbag! God's Pronouns, Project 2025, & Asking Jesus Into Your Heart
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1:06:42Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye respond to questions from the listeners, including whether lay people should go to seminary, how important is attending a church after being hurt by one, and whether Christians should make violent video games. They also venture into theological topics like what pronouns are appropriate for God, what doctrines do we emphasize…
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Katie Razzall and Ros Atkins on some of this week's big media stories.As Gary Lineker leaves the BBC we talk to the former Grandstand presenter Steve Rider, and current sports commentator Henry Winter. The Sunday Times Media Editor Ros Urwin discusses her scoop on Huw Edwards as well as the persistance needed in investigative journalism with BBC co…
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670: The Nicene Creed is Cool Again & Reading the Bible like Dallas Willard with Dave Ripper
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1:28:51Why are more churches rediscovering and reciting the Nicene Creed? And what can the ancient articulation of Christian belief offer the church in these divided times? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the 1700th anniversary of the creed and its place in the modern church. The Bible is critical to our faith, but have we been taught to worship the Bible…
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The weather influencers taking social media by storm, Sir Peter Bazalgette, reporting the mushroom murder trial in Australia
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42:38Ros Atkins and Katie Razzall on the week's big media stories from around the world. What next for presenter Jo Coburn who leaves Politics Live next week after nearly thirty years with the BBC? She's covered the tumultuous years of the Scottish and EU referendums, Brexit, the pandemic, lockdown and shifting political landscape. We hear about her hig…
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669: From Common Good to Culture War—Lessons from the Q Conference with Katelyn Beaty
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1:28:18We have a pope and he's American! Cardinal Robert Prevost from Chicago is now Pope Leo XIV, and his connection to The Holy Post is closer than anyone imagined. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss reactions to the new Pope and the significance of his name. Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss the evolution of the Q Conference, led by Gabe and Rebekah Lyons.…
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