Many business owners think they have to wait until after they sell their company to do significant giving. Each week, listen as Jeff Thomas, Alan Barnhart, Jeff Rutt and their guests discuss practical ways to be more generous NOW. Whether your business does one million in revenue or one billion, this podcast is for you.
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Rusty Bland: Geeking Out About How Your Leaders Lead
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39:41What do you want to be known for? How can you create real experiences to build that? In this episode, Jeff and Rusty discuss: How God works on us in all areas of our lives. Allowing all of your experiences to work for you in any role. Owners and donors in your foundation. Embedding servant leadership into your culture. Key Takeaways: God’s kingdom …
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Kim King: Set Your Lifestyle Limit for a Life of Generosity
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35:30Have you set your lifestyle limit? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Kim discuss: Giving to God’s causes. Letting God lead you forward with faith. Why God wants us to join in His giving. Embracing and handling obstacles on your journey. Key Takeaways: There’s going to be risk - if you wait for 100% certainty, it won’t come. Move forward anyway in fa…
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Where do you feel the Lord’s call to give? In this episode, Jeff and Lamar discuss: Teaching your kids about debts, saving, and generosity. Shepherding your children’s hearts in what pulls on their hearts. How crises often lead to better things. Unique ways to bless people and organizations. Key Takeaways: Invite your children to make the giving de…
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Shawn Nelson: From Mistakes Come Lessons and Miracles
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40:09Are you building something that matters? In this episode, Jeff and Shawn discuss: Taking action when you run into roadblocks. Giving back at every stage of life. Finding a way through creative means to make it work. Creating a brand people believe in. Key Takeaways: Just do something. You can’t just have the idea; you have to take action. It is not…
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Sean Kouplen: Bringing Faith Into Business
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42:17How do you bring your faith into your business? In this episode, Jeff and Sean discuss: From the farm to the C-suite. Asking for help and leading from a place of humility. Turning your fears and troubles over to God. Acting on the promptings Jesus gives you, even if you aren’t sure how it is possible. Key Takeaways: When you don’t know the answer, …
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Jon Eisenberg: Creative Solutions to the Problems of Your Heart
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42:21Have you looked at ways, beyond the obvious, that you might be able to give to those problems weighing on your heart? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Jon discuss: Loving people in a hard place is like Jesus loved people in a hard place. Obeying the clear calls of God, even when you don’t know the reasons. Giving to the causes God places in your he…
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Leigh Ann Horton: Joy in the Journey of Giving
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35:34What are your core values? What are you passionate about? Where do those overlap and how can you give in that area? In this episode, Jeff, Alisa, and Leigh Ann discuss: Working with your spouse and growing in generosity together. Turning to the Lord in times of pruning. Learning in community and learning to listen to God. Spontaneous and purposeful…
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Who is coming alongside you on your journey? Do others know you’re on their journey with them? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Zac discuss: Finding God’s grace in the hard seasons of life. Connecting with your community. Fighting the shadows of anxiety and depression with God and others. We need PEOPLE in our lives. Key Takeaways: Journaling allow…
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Tommy Martin: Supporting the Real MVPs - Most Vulnerable People
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41:05Are your eyes open to see the needs that are all around you? In this episode, Jeff and Tommy discuss: Meeting Jesus in the midst of life. The power of good friends. Deeply caring for people through business. Asking “is it worth it” rather than “do I like it.” Key Takeaways: Having a friend group that can lift you up and won’t drag you down in high …
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Does your view of God help you to think big and learn to be a visionary? In this episode, Jeff and Kurt discuss: Making things happen against all odds. Following through on what you promise. Using your skills to teach skills. Allowing God to be big. Key Takeaways: See the God stories in your story. He will always be there in your success. Changing …
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How are you abiding in Christ and seeking God in business and life? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Randy discuss: Following through on what you start. Being intentional about your faith in business. Ministering to your employees and your clients. Let God show you your priorities. Key Takeaways: Discover how God has made you. The more you can coop…
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Niko Lorentzatos: Building Time for What Matters
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39:19What steps can you take now to start moving in the right direction of what matters most? In this episode, Jeff and Nick discuss: Trying new, difficult things and bringing value in all areas of business. The power of one-on-one conversations and asking “why”. Praying for guidance and strength in hard times. Picturing your perfect life and taking ste…
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Are you using prayer to build your relationship with God and surrender to Him in business and life? In this episode, Jeff and Gary discuss: Using prayer as personal time with your Father in Heaven. Surrendering your all to God. Seeking the mysteries of God’s will. Using business as a movement and a mission. Key Takeaways: When you don’t know what’s…
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Kingdom Estate Planning Part 3: What Do I Do With the Rest?
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45:01What is the wrong you are meant to right in the world? In this episode, Jeff and Cale discuss: Understanding the narrative, not just the numbers. Finding joy while giving before you’re gone and disinheriting the IRS. Putting your talents to work for the Kingdom. Living an abundant life. Key Takeaways: Take a look inside your family and what you’re …
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Kingdom Estate Planning Part 2: How Much Do We Leave Behind?
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44:45How do you turn your resources into a tailwind for your kids, not a headwind? In this episode, Jeff and Cale discuss: Customizing your children’s inheritance to what fits your family. Inheritance transfer that is led with purpose, not tax mitigation, in mind. Establishing a committed form of generosity to the Lord. The importance of communication a…
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Kingdom Estate Planning Part 1: How Much is Enough?
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47:43Have you and your spouse thought about and set your financial finish line? In this episode, Jeff and Cale discuss: When is enough enough? Being a steward and not an owner of God’s resources. Orienting your life for abundance today, but also for treasures in heaven. Taking inventory of what is yours to steward. Key Takeaways: Keeping up with the Jon…
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B Corp Webinar with Brent Dusing of TruPlay
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33:23If you had to write your one paragraph, what would your paragraph say? In this episode, Jeff and Brent discuss: The structure and benefits of having a B Corp. Why you may want to run a B Corp business. The legal requirement of filing and displaying your public benefit. Finding growth in the process of writing and identifying your purpose. Key Takea…
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Cale Dowell: Connecting Your Money with Your Purpose
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1:17:41Are you planning for the Kingdom or the world? In this episode, Jeff and Cale discuss: Thinking about your financial estate plan from a different angle. Planning your giving before you die. Generous giving as a family with a non-traditional framework of giving. The top five questions are frequently asked by generous business owners. Key Takeaways: …
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Matthew Hiltz: The Stages of the Journey of Generosity
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38:49How are you giving others the opportunity to participate in your journey of generosity? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Matt discuss: Desiring to do more and seeing God’s blessings in life’s challenges. Being willing to take risks and do anything necessary. Balancing life priorities with growing a business. Encouraging employees and family to enga…
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Terry Trayvick: Everywhere He Leads You Turns to Gold
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39:08Are you listening when God speaks? Are you going where He sends you? In this episode, Jeff and Terry discuss: Keeping in touch and maintaining lifetime friends. Seeing God’s hand in the paths of our lives. Hearing God’s voice and acting on our promises with Him. Business as a platform for faith. Key Takeaways: If you listen and obey, everything God…
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Marty Ozinga: Living In Relationship with the Creator of the Universe
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42:00Are you spending quiet time every day in conversation with God? In this episode, Jeff and Marty discuss: Working as a cohesive leadership team. Prayer is a secret sauce for success. Stewarding what God has entrusted to us. Living life to honor your parents and prior generations. Key Takeaways: You cannot have enough communication. Communication is …
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Michele Dudley: Engaging and Connecting - The Power of Social Capital
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42:59Where can you leverage your social capital to serve and grow in a community of God’s love? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Michele discuss: Bringing the mountain top experiences back to your everyday life. Finding the moments of connection with all of God’s children. Investing wisely and stewarding God’s resources takes time and practice. Sharing …
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Pat and Janel Hord: Planting Your Roots in God’s Kingdom
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37:23What need is calling to your soul? Where are you hungering to serve in God’s Kingdom? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, Pat, and Janel discuss: Surrendering to God’s will and releasing our control. Keeping your word even when it isn’t easy. Serving God and His kingdom no matter what industry you are in. Talking with your family about what is important t…
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Phil Goad: God is the Author of Redemption and the Founder of Families
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42:18How can you support the kids and families in need around you? In this episode, Jeff and Phil discuss: Building a business with spiritually aligned partners. Utilizing a leveraged buyout with your employees so everyone has ownership. Being drawn into foster and orphan care with a Godly heart. Orphan care domestically and internationally. How God ble…
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Kate Gardner: Empowering Agency in Next-Generation Generosity
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42:55How do I give my kids a leg up, but not two legs up on the couch? In this episode, Jeff and Kate discuss: Being all-in for the Kingdom, even when in secular spaces. Creating positive investing and generosity experiences from a young age. Avoiding Sudden Wealth Syndrome. Believing in your children and giving them agency. Fostering healthy money comm…
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How can you start being a better listener within your home and family? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Bill discuss: Finding independence at the age of 12. Careful listening - the key to success. Attention and listening as a form of generosity. Seek first the Kingdom. Key Takeaways: True listening is not waiting for your turn to speak. It is tryin…
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How are you taking care of your people at all levels? In this episode, Jeff and Dan discuss: No act of generosity is too small. Taking care of your people, no matter what their job is. Ensuring a people-first culture. The 7 Cs of good culture. Key Takeaways: Enjoy your job, enjoy the product, but most importantly, enjoy the people. In your organiza…
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Have you and your family set your compass - vision, mission, values - for future family success? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Bill discuss: Trusting God’s plan and seeing others’ generosity in those plans. The breaks and acceleration of our money and our generosity. Successful succession planning in business and family. Making a world view shif…
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Bill and Dana Wichterman: God-Shaped Investments, God-Shaped Returns
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43:59How are you aligning your money to bring glory to God? In this episode, Jeff, Bill, and Dana discuss: Start your marriage on the same financial page, and let God lead it. Nothing in life has a sacred and secular divide. Stories of successful stewards. Understanding your finish line and approaching it with joy. Key Takeaways: If you want to be a goo…
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Kelly Merryman Hoogstraten: Opening Hearts Through Courageous Storytelling
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51:52How are you helping to crack open hearts and mend the frayed community we live in? In this episode, Jeff and Kelly discuss: Kelly’s transformational experience in South Africa in her early 20s. The beauty of meeting new people and learning from them. Identifying your superpower. The need for engaging, values-based entertainment and programming. Key…
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What small things can you do to enrich the lives of those around you? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Thomas discuss: Learning to save and give generously from a young age. Encouraging generosity in our children. Giving back to our abundant God. Understanding different giving models. Key Takeaways: Involve your kids in your giving, from small gift…
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Are you spending time every day with God? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Jay discuss: Learning the perils of debt early. Succeeding in real estate without debt leverage. Living intentionally. Pray first, do second. Key Takeaways: Grow slowly, invest in portfolios, and work with partners - these are some ways you can continue to grow your business…
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Bob Wright: Letting God Be the Captain of Your Life
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49:43Where do you need to let your faith trump your fear? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Bob discuss: Growing up with an attitude of abundance and risk-taking. Trusting where the Lord is leading you. Intersecting faith and business. The value of mentorship in business, ministry, and marriage. Listening when the Holy Spirit speaks. Key Takeaways: God h…
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Jeanna Roach: God’s Ministry, Formerly Known as Your Business
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44:31What is your one right next step? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Jeanna discuss: Lessons on humility and overcoming pride. Meeting the Lord through business. Transitioning from soaking in the Spirit to seeking the Lord. Building a unified team even among diverse people. Living intentionally and honoring legacy. Key Takeaways: People need to have …
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Mike Thakur: Do Business God’s Way and Change the World
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44:55How are you using your business as a vehicle for Kingdom impact? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Mike discuss: Successfully bridging the worlds between tech, business, and faith. Building the Kingdom and a burned-down mansion. Having a faith walk that includes God in your business. Returning to the true and important messages in the world of the w…
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Steve Woodworth: Key Transition Truths for Business and Ministry
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35:40Have you started thinking about your business or ministry transition? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Steve discuss: How Steve found Jesus with his wife at 21, turning his life around in the process. Losing focus in college and then finding success with a business career in marketing, which has become his ministry career. Building a cushion of wea…
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Are you looking for a greater purpose that will allow your assets to live on beyond you? In this episode, Jeff, Tim, and Pete discuss: What a purpose trust is and how it may benefit your generosity beyond your lifetime. How Farmer’s Organic Market and Patagonia are leading the way with purpose trusts. Comparing a traditional trust with a perpetual …
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Scott Pomeroy: Intentionality in Generosity
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45:42What is God leading you to do? In this episode, Jeff and Scott discuss: Obedience over outcome. Generosity doesn’t happen organically. Blessings of Christian education. Creating a personal board of directors. Key Takeaways: God’s plan is different than yours. Ultimately, it is better than you could know. God calls us to show up, no matter the outco…
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Josh Kwan: Generational Giving and Successful Stewardship
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40:20What are you willing to sacrifice or concede for the goal of healthy family dynamics? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Josh discuss: Your kids are watching what you say, what you do, what you proclaim, and how those align. Learning from our peers while in community. Encouraging vulnerability. Finding a shared common passion. Key Takeaways: The Gath…
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Jamie Levy: Driven by the Joy of Generosity
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43:22Do you understand your relationship with God, with money, and with generosity? In this episode, Jeff and Jamie discuss: Understanding what it means to have a true relationship with Jesus Christ at every level of life. Recognizing God’s gift within to serve and bless others. Solving a problem for somebody versus having an impact on their change stor…
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Jenny Watson: Balancing the Tension of Split Attention
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38:14How are you balancing your attention to the callings God has given you? In this episode, Jeff and Jenny discuss: Finding what lights you up and lets you serve others. Serving your children to serve others. Scaling and growth with a seasonal product. Empowering mothers to help their families. Key Takeaways: Everyone has different paths in life. Pare…
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Becca Spradlin: Avoiding Mission Drift in Our Families and Organizations
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38:47Have you written down the guidelines and guardrails for your family or organization’s mission? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Becca discuss: Learning from her father how a tax preparation business can be part of a Christian mission from a young age. Entrepreneurship in the mission space. Engaging your children in your family’s mission. Discerning…
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John Maxwell: Living a Life of Significance, not Success
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39:21Are you building a culture of generosity and significance in your life and business? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and John discuss: Three things to do every day to be a great leader. Making a difference and living a significant life. Add value to people every day, believe in them, and love them. Understanding your personal, financial finish line. T…
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Brad Layland: Dear Donor, From Donor Services
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42:42Do you know the influence your donations are having? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Brad discuss: Lessons learned from growing up with four dads. Reaching communities through fundraising. The meeting of non-profit organizations and for-profit organizations. Developing a system that shows appreciation for your donors. Filtering the organizations y…
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Don Golden: Redeeming Business for God’s Mission and Kingdom
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38:31Are you willing to take an honest reevaluation of your life and business? In this episode, Jeff and Don discuss: Having mission at the heart of all of God’s people. Taking care of the Kingdom on Earth, not only in heaven. Changing your mindset to move beyond charity. Rewiring the household (economy) to distribute wealth to more people. Key Takeaway…
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Rev. Dr. Joseph Boot: Aligning Your Financial Priorities with God’s Purposes
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42:36Where is your treasure? Where are your priorities? Are there any changes that need made to measure up to God’s priority? In this episode, Jeff and Joe discuss: Learning from a young age to organize life around the Kingdom of God. Helping Christians to think Christianly around work, wealth, and capital. Introducing God’s rest and peace into existenc…
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Ed Herr: Love God, Love People, Love Hard Work
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41:38How are you giving back to your community in a way that matters and has purpose? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Ed discuss: The top 3 lessons Ed learned from his parents. Standing out with a world-class point of difference. The 5 Cs of running a successful, people-focused organization. Benefits and challenges of running a family business. Buildin…
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Barry Rowan: From Pain in Confusion to Peace in Christ
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44:01Who are you surrendering to? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Barry discuss: The gift of having a marriage of partnership. Changing the paradigm of how you think about work and life. Living a life of significance and a life that matters. The three things to invest in as you live your life in unity under God. The process and art of surrendering to G…
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Kip Miller: Glorifying God with Your Work and Purpose
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48:31What can you do to wear Christ on your sleeve a little bit more in your life and business? In this episode, Jeff and Kip discuss: Ministry in business. Learning the lessons of perseverance and trust in God. Living by values to sustain your life and your business with a strong foundation. Building your brand as a brand that cares at its core - carin…
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Bob Caldwell Jr.: Leading Your Business with a Pastoral Heart and Mind
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43:45What are you doing with God’s whispers? In this episode, Jeff, Jeff, and Bob discuss: Growing up in the family business from greenhouses to fragrance. Willing to try, willing to fail. Integrating business, family, and faith. Building your business with a pastor’s heart. Key Takeaways: Growth never occurs in a straight line. It is easy to write a ch…
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