The Vocal Lab Collective is dedicated to elevating the music industry by empowering and developing top-tier artists and industry professionals with first-class conversations, cutting-edge techniques, and transformative insights into music, leadership, and personal growth. To inspire and empower the elite 10% of the music industry through mentorship, collaboration, and innovation, fostering a community where high achievers can thrive, innovate, and lead the next wave of musical excellence. Th ...
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Jason Catron Podcasts
The Conversation Podcast is just that— lighthearted yet honest conversations between Adam and his guests as they talk about how to make a difference with your life (while still having a life). Whether you're walking through an un-pretty part of being human, striving to become a better leader, or you're trying to figure out what it looks like to follow Jesus everyday, you'll know that you're not alone! Adam Weber is the founder and lead pastor of Embrace, a church based out of Sioux Falls, So ...
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From Billy B to Dolly Parton, the art of painting faces with Charlie Boehm
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51:55This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Nashville-based makeup artist and creative force Charlie Boehm. Charlie shares how his journey surprisingly began in music, a path that shaped his eye for performance, presence, and storytelling long before he ever held a makeup brush. He opens up about the pivotal moment when legendary art…
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The Loneliness of Leadership with Carey Nieuwhof
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1:12:43Leadership, especially in ministry, can be lonely. In this conversation, I got to sit down in person with pastor, bestselling author, and leadership expert, Carey Nieuwhof. We were surrounded by a room full of pastors and ministry leaders to talk about what it really looks like to lead well without losing your soul. We talk about the difference bet…
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his week, Jason and Shelby drop in for a quick checkup episode! Jason shares how watching the new Luther Vandross documentary sent him down a soulful rabbit hole — and somehow led to a real-life run-in with John Tesh. Hear how that unexpected meeting went, plus a little catch-up between the hosts you know and love. It’s light, fun, and full of thos…
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Use What's in Your Hands with Jessica Honegger (Faith and Justice Series Pt. 4)
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36:14This week wraps up our Faith & Justice series… and it's good! I sat down with Jessica Honegger, the founder of Noonday Collection, a fair-trade fashion brand that's changing lives around the world. Jessica shares how her faith led her to step out in courage. Starting a business that empowers artisans while also partnering with IJM to fight injustic…
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Taylor Swift slid into Shelby's DMs and Southwest ruins our lives!
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36:34The Vocal Lab Podcast — This week, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos get a little salty about Southwest’s so-called “customer experience upgrades.” From luggage limits to seat shuffles, we’re not exactly buying the “friendly skies” vibe. Then we lighten it up (kind of) with Taylor and Travis’s engagement — and how Taylor’s once again proving she’s running …
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When the Next News Story Breaks with Sharon Hodde Miller
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43:27In this episode, I sit down with Christ-follower, author, pastor, and teacher, Sharon Hodde Miller, to talk about what it looks like to find real freedom. Not the kind the world talks about, but the kind that comes when we stop trying to control everything and let God be in charge. We talk about everything from how to respond to the next big news s…
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Take it from the top with Michelle Garramone!
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54:09This week, Jason and Shelby sit down with Michelle Garramone, classically trained vocalist turned artist development strategist, label founder, and mindset coach. Michelle shares her journey from performance to the business side—how she balanced artistry and strategy, building Mishi Records to empower indie artists with release planning, wellness, …
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Mark Herzlich on the NFL, Cancer and Perseverance (Faith and Justice Series Pt. 3)
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55:09Welcome to part 3 of a very special podcast series we are calling Faith & Justice. In this series, we're diving into what it looks like to follow Jesus in a world that is deeply in need of hope, healing, and justice. We have been partnering with the International Justice Mission, an incredible organization working to end violence, exploitation, and…
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From physics to country music with Holdyn Barder
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59:18This week, Jason and Shelby welcome rising country artist Holdyn Barder—the Newtown, PA native whose Eagles anthem “Go Birds” went viral and put Philly pride on the country map. Holdyn shares his journey from physics major to Nashville stages, opening for superstars like Luke Bryan and Darius Rucker, and the heart behind his upcoming debut album. T…
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Leadership Gold from Texas Rangers Executive Nick Hundley (Faith and Justice Series Pt. 2)
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35:49Welcome to part 2 of a very special podcast series we are calling Faith & Justice. In this series, we're diving into what it looks like to follow Jesus in a world that is deeply in need of hope, healing, and justice. Over these four episodes, we're honored to be partnering with International Justice Mission, an incredible organization working to en…
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If you can breathe, you can dance! Charity Baroni
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51:18This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Charity Baroni, a seasoned performer and movement coach whose career has spanned the worlds of music videos, live tours, and artist development. From dancing with Taylor Swift and Beyoncé to empowering artists through movement coaching, Charity shares her journey and insights into the transformative power o…
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Ellie Holcomb on Being Diagnosed with ADHD at age 42 (Faith and Justice Series Pt. 1)
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37:08Hey friends, Welcome to a very special podcast series called Faith & Justice. In this series, we're diving into what it looks like to follow Jesus in a world that is deeply in need of hope, healing, and justice. Over the next four episodes, we're honored to be partnering with International Justice Mission, or IJM - an incredible organization workin…
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AI's newest star, KION! Is this for real?
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47:42🎙️ The Vocal Lab Podcast This week, Jason, Shelby, and even Carlos dive into one of the biggest headlines in music: Higgsfield Records has officially signed its first AI artist, KION. What does this mean for singers, songwriters, and the industry at large? Is AI a threat, a tool, or the future of collaboration? We unpack the possibilities, the risk…
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How to Read the Bible & Find Healing from Church Hurt with Amanda Bible Williams
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40:46Last year, the Wall Street Journal reported that Bible sales are up by 22% from the year before (how cool is that?!). So in today's episode, we're hanging out with Amanda Bible Williams, the amazing co-founder of She Reads Truth. If you've never checked it out, it is an incredible community that helps women engage with the Bible every single day. A…
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Adam Levine’s new album Love Is Like has fans talking — his voice sounds noticeably different. In this episode, Jason and Shelby unpack why singers choose to change their voices, whether it’s a natural evolution or a risky experiment, and what it means for both artistry and audience expectations. Is changing your sound a smart move, or can it cost …
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Healing Together Through Hard Seasons: Justin & Trisha Davis (Marriage Series Pt. 4)
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46:38Today is part 4 of our marriage series and we're wrapping things up with an incredible couple: Justin & Trisha Davis. Their story? It's real. It's raw. In 2002 after planting their first church, Justin had an affair with a staff member (who was also Trisha's best friend). They walked through four years of deep pain, grief, counseling and by God's g…
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Traveling to OZ with Wicked's Glinda Allison Bailey!
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1:02:52This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Broadway’s own Allison Bailey, best known for her sparkling turn as Glinda in Wicked. She shares her journey from Florida stages to national tours, life on Broadway, and what it takes to bring such an iconic role to life night after night. Plus—her newest projects beyond Oz. Don’t miss this inspiring conver…
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The Little Things That Keep Love Alive: Nicky & Sila Lee (Marriage Series Pt. 3)
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48:27Today is part 3 of our marriage series and I had the privilege of sitting down with Nicky and Sila Lee, a well-known couple from England who developed The Marriage Course - a program that's impacted couples around the world. They've been married 49 years (yes, 49 years!) and they share the small but powerful habits that have kept their love strong:…
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First 48! Pavarotti, Italian mud baths, and more!
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50:59On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos dive into Pavarotti’s famous claim that singers need 48 hours to recover after a performance. Was he exaggerating, or is there real science behind the millions of vocal fold collisions in a two-hour show? Join us as we explore the artistry, physiology, and recovery rituals that sha…
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How to Keep the Fun (and Sex!) Alive in Marriage: Gary & Lisa Thomas (Marriage Series Pt. 2)
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44:27For part 2 of this marriage series, I get to sit down with my friend, pastor and author Gary Thomas and his lovely wife, Lisa, about having a marriage that is built to last. They've been married 41 years (yes, you read that right!) and they share about the ups and downs they faced early on as parents, and the habits that have helped them keep growi…
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This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Blake Proehl—former Minnesota Viking, American Idol contestant, and breakout singer-songwriter. We dive into the heartwarming story of how a song for his nana went viral, the unexpected journey from football fields to recording studios, and his brand-new release Miss Carolina. Don’t miss th…
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Living on Mission Together: Jason & Jodi VanRuler (Marriage Series Pt. 1)
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34:53Today's episode is part 1 of 4 in a series on marriage and to kick things off, I sit down with my friends Jason and Jodi VanRuler. They have been married for 18 years, and they are the real deal. They share their journey through the ups and downs of married life, discussing how they support each other's dreams, and how they have stayed connected al…
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Shaboozey breaks the record while we eat cupcakes!
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28:47On this episode of The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby dig into Shaboozey’s historic feat—'A Bar Song (Tipsy)' just hit 27 weeks at No. 1 on Billboard’s Radio Songs chart, breaking the all-time record previously held by The Weeknd’s Blinding Lights. What does a run like that say about the state of radio, genre-bending hits, and the future of chart domi…
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We're back with another "Ask Adam Anything" episode and today's topic is something culture often overlooks: rest. While busyness is celebrated and productivity is praised, Emily and I talk about how true renewal comes when we step back and embrace rhythms of rest. On the flip side, many people think they're overworked and burned out - when it turns…
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Bringing back the heartbeat to Country Music with Conor Clemmons!
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59:17This week, Jason and Shelby welcome Nashville country artist Conor Clemmons to the studio! From his Carolina roots to climbing the iTunes Country charts with his debut EP Left of Center, Conor has been carving out a sound full of heart, energy, and real storytelling. He’s opened for artists like Hunter Hayes, Gavin DeGraw, and Parmalee, and his lat…
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In today's episode, Emily and I dive into the importance of living a magnetic life - one that attracts others to us (and ultimately to Jesus). This can be especially difficult when so many Christians are perceived as judgmental and hypocritical (especially because of what we say and post online) which often repels people from wanting to know Jesus …
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Jason and Shelby are kicking off a new chapter — a fresh studio, a fresh vibe, and... some very questionable ASMR experiments. Is it soothing? Is it terrifying? Or is it both? Join us as we celebrate new beginnings, spill behind-the-scenes stories, and tiptoe into the whispery world of audio that might just give you chills — for better or worse.…
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Carlos Whittaker on Grief, Growth & Staying Young at Heart
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53:44In today's episode I got to sit down with my friend, Carlos Whittaker, and a live audience! Carlos is one of the most life-giving people I know. He is honest, hilarious and always full of hope. We chat about ways we can reconnect with God, what he's learned about welcoming grief into his life since losing his dad to dementia almost 6 months ago and…
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Jason and Shelby sit down with rising Nashville artist Garrett Adair, whose journey from college entrepreneur to viral singer-songwriter is anything but ordinary. Garrett opens up about his early love for music, the unexpected start of a gummy vitamin business in college, and how the pandemic reignited his passion for songwriting and performing. No…
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Today I'm sitting down with the insightful Jess Connolly… plus one of my amazing team members, Kylee Breems (who just might be Jess' biggest fan) and a live audience! Jess beautifully shares from her heart about the importance of surrendering control in everything (especially our callings and in parenting). We talk about the challenges and joys of …
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Join your hosts Jason and Shelby as they dish out the weirdest, wildest, and most deliciously dramatic meals from music legends. From Elvis’s peanut butter bacon bonanza to Taylor Swift’s cottagecore chicken tender and cinnamon rolls—it's music, munchies, and mayhem. Because behind every icon... is a very questionable snack. 😏🎶…
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In today's episode, I'm joined by my amazing assistant Emily, and we're having an honest conversation about something so many of us wrestle with - how to hear God's voice in our everyday lives. I open up about some of my own experiences and what it's looked like to try and tell the difference between God's nudges and my own thoughts. We talk about …
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Jason and Shelby are joined by Micah Otano—multi-platinum producer, songwriter, and musician whose credits include Frank Ocean, Solange, Fantasia, and more. From touring with Solange to crafting Grammy-winning records, Micah shares insider stories, creative insights, and the journey behind his powerhouse career in music.…
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Mayor Paul Ten Haken on Being a Good Citizen & Going Against Party Lines
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38:51In this episode, I chat with my good friend and the Mayor of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Paul TenHaken. This interview will sound a little different, as we recorded on one of the busiest streets in our city, Philips Avenue (shoutout to downtown SF, a must-visit if you're in the area)! As Paul approaches the end of his term, he shares what he's learn…
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This week, Jason and Shelby welcome their first-ever international guest – rising Canadian singer-songwriter Alex Coles! 🌎✨ Join us as we dive into Alex’s journey from Toronto to the global stage, unpack his creative process behind hits like Bored Games and Act Natural, and explore how he’s connecting with a rapidly growing fanbase around the world…
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This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby sit down with Nashville-based singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Parker Mathews — one half of the rising alt-pop duo Nox Holloway. With a background in audio engineering and a knack for blending genres, Parker’s fingerprints are all over the band’s sound — from songwriting and product…
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Today on the podcast, I sat down with Brian Slipka. Brian is the founder of True North, a group of businesses that together bring in over a quarter billion dollars a year. But this isn't just a business story. While visiting his dad in hospice, Brian was asked a question that completely shifted how he viewed success. It moved him from chasing profi…
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You can't sing where?!?! Crazy singing laws in the U.S.
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30:20This week, Jason and Shelby uncover the wildest and weirdest singing laws across the U.S.—from humming in weird places to full-on bans in public spots. Why were these laws made? Are they real? And could you be breaking one without even knowing it? Tune in for laughs, legal oddities, and a whole lot of vocal disbelief. 🗣️ Hit play. You might be an o…
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Marriage, Parenting & Walking in the Spirit with Sandy & Annette Millar
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31:26Today, I'm joined by my good friend, Sandy Millar, and his wife, Annette. Sandy was the former vicar (pastor) of HTB Church in England. With 84 years of life experience, Sandy and Annette share some pearls of wisdom about marriage, parenting and walking in the spirit. Anytime I have the opportunity to meet with someone older and wiser than me, I ta…
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Make Room: Bekah Williams on Music, Surrender, and the Local Church
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1:08:33This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by worship leader and songwriter Bekah (White) Williams, the voice behind powerful worship anthems like "Rest On Us" and "Make Room." From touring with Green Day and opening for Fergie, to laying it all down and finding her place in the local church, Bekah shares her raw, redemptive journey of faith. She opens…
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NBA Star Jonathan Isaac on Going to Onsite & Standing Tall Under Pressure
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37:05Today I sit down with Jonathan Isaac, starting forward for the Orlando Magic. From overcoming injuries to working through the anxieties that come with being in the NBA, Jonathan talks about recenting going to Onsite, the significance of accountability and how pivotal moments have shaped his life. Jonathan talks about being vocal about his faith bei…
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Coachella Chaos & Shelby Learns About Fyre Fest
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35:19This week, Jason and Shelby dive into the wildest stories from Coachella 2025 — think 12-hour waits just to enter, surprise twisters hitting the campgrounds at night, and fireworks gone very wrong. But the real moment? When Shelby learns what really happened at Fyre Festival… and what Andy almost did to get those water bottles through customs 😳💧…
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Faith, Fatherhood, and Sobriety with Kristian Stanfill
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39:48In today's episode, I sit down with my friend and worship leader, Kristian Stanfill. We talk about staying in ministry for the long haul, following Jesus and the emotional rollercoaster of fatherhood (specifically since we both had sons graduate from high school this year)! He also shares about the power of community, showing up as your real self, …
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Fluffy hair at baseball camp with Ari!
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1:10:44In this episode, Jason and Shelby are joined by the radiant Ari (@arianevr)—celebrity makeup artist, hair stylist, and Nashville creative force. Ariane takes us behind the scenes of her journey from small-town beginnings to becoming a go-to glam expert for artists, brides, and red carpet regulars. But just as things start to get real… Jason’s stoma…
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Opportunities are all around us. We just need the eyes to see them and have the guts to say yes! In this episode, we explore how to recognize the skills you already have, lean into the people already around you, and stop waiting for the "perfect" moment to do something meaningful. Whether you're a business leader, pastor, or stay at home parent, op…
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Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they celebrate one incredible year of The Vocal Lab Podcast! In this special anniversary episode, they reflect on the joys, challenges, and behind-the-scenes moments that shaped their first season. From unforgettable guests to inspiring vocal breakthroughs, Jason and Shelby share their favorite highligh…
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300th Episode Celebration: A Candid Q&A with Adam
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39:25Today, we are celebrating an exciting milestone - 300 episodes! Join us for a special Q&A episode where my assistant, Emily, asks me questions submitted by YOU, the listener! We talk about leadership, growth and all the things I've learned along the way. This episode is a reminder that growth is a journey and sharing it with others makes it all the…
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Legacy Media: Dying Breed or Evolution in Progress
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33:34Join hosts Jason and Shelby as they dig into the uncertain future of legacy media. From cable news to print journalism, is the old guard fading into obscurity—or just gearing up for a reinvention? Expect bold takes, sharp insights, and a few sparks as they challenge the myths, dissect the trends, and ask the big question: Can legacy media still lea…
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Gabe & Rebekah Lyons on How to Fight Well in Marriage
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39:36Conflict is inevitable in every relationship but how we handle it can make or break our marriage. In today's episode, I'm joined by Gabe & Rebekah Lyons as we dive into what it means to fight well. Not married? They also share some advice for those who are dating and include their "red flags" for when to seek counseling (yes, it's a good idea to do…
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What if you could invite any legendary artist to dinner? This week, Jason and Shelby go head-to-head in a fantasy dinner party draft—each curating their dream guest list of musical icons. Who will they pick? What surprising combos will sit side by side? And what kind of chaos would unfold at the table? Tune in for laughs, friendly competition, and …
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