The Vocal Lab Collective is dedicated to elevating the music industry by empowering and developing top-tier artists and industry professionals with first-class conversations, cutting-edge techniques, and transformative insights into music, leadership, and personal growth. To inspire and empower the elite 10% of the music industry through mentorship, collaboration, and innovation, fostering a community where high achievers can thrive, innovate, and lead the next wave of musical excellence. Th ...
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If you can breathe, you can dance! Charity Baroni
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51:18This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Charity Baroni, a seasoned performer and movement coach whose career has spanned the worlds of music videos, live tours, and artist development. From dancing with Taylor Swift and Beyoncé to empowering artists through movement coaching, Charity shares her journey and insights into the transformative power o…
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AI's newest star, KION! Is this for real?
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47:42🎙️ The Vocal Lab Podcast This week, Jason, Shelby, and even Carlos dive into one of the biggest headlines in music: Higgsfield Records has officially signed its first AI artist, KION. What does this mean for singers, songwriters, and the industry at large? Is AI a threat, a tool, or the future of collaboration? We unpack the possibilities, the risk…
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Adam Levine’s new album Love Is Like has fans talking — his voice sounds noticeably different. In this episode, Jason and Shelby unpack why singers choose to change their voices, whether it’s a natural evolution or a risky experiment, and what it means for both artistry and audience expectations. Is changing your sound a smart move, or can it cost …
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Traveling to OZ with Wicked's Glinda Allison Bailey!
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1:02:52This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Broadway’s own Allison Bailey, best known for her sparkling turn as Glinda in Wicked. She shares her journey from Florida stages to national tours, life on Broadway, and what it takes to bring such an iconic role to life night after night. Plus—her newest projects beyond Oz. Don’t miss this inspiring conver…
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First 48! Pavarotti, Italian mud baths, and more!
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50:59On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos dive into Pavarotti’s famous claim that singers need 48 hours to recover after a performance. Was he exaggerating, or is there real science behind the millions of vocal fold collisions in a two-hour show? Join us as we explore the artistry, physiology, and recovery rituals that sha…
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This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Blake Proehl—former Minnesota Viking, American Idol contestant, and breakout singer-songwriter. We dive into the heartwarming story of how a song for his nana went viral, the unexpected journey from football fields to recording studios, and his brand-new release Miss Carolina. Don’t miss th…
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Shaboozey breaks the record while we eat cupcakes!
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28:47On this episode of The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby dig into Shaboozey’s historic feat—'A Bar Song (Tipsy)' just hit 27 weeks at No. 1 on Billboard’s Radio Songs chart, breaking the all-time record previously held by The Weeknd’s Blinding Lights. What does a run like that say about the state of radio, genre-bending hits, and the future of chart domi…
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Bringing back the heartbeat to Country Music with Conor Clemmons!
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59:17This week, Jason and Shelby welcome Nashville country artist Conor Clemmons to the studio! From his Carolina roots to climbing the iTunes Country charts with his debut EP Left of Center, Conor has been carving out a sound full of heart, energy, and real storytelling. He’s opened for artists like Hunter Hayes, Gavin DeGraw, and Parmalee, and his lat…
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Jason and Shelby are kicking off a new chapter — a fresh studio, a fresh vibe, and... some very questionable ASMR experiments. Is it soothing? Is it terrifying? Or is it both? Join us as we celebrate new beginnings, spill behind-the-scenes stories, and tiptoe into the whispery world of audio that might just give you chills — for better or worse.…
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Jason and Shelby sit down with rising Nashville artist Garrett Adair, whose journey from college entrepreneur to viral singer-songwriter is anything but ordinary. Garrett opens up about his early love for music, the unexpected start of a gummy vitamin business in college, and how the pandemic reignited his passion for songwriting and performing. No…
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Join your hosts Jason and Shelby as they dish out the weirdest, wildest, and most deliciously dramatic meals from music legends. From Elvis’s peanut butter bacon bonanza to Taylor Swift’s cottagecore chicken tender and cinnamon rolls—it's music, munchies, and mayhem. Because behind every icon... is a very questionable snack. 😏🎶…
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Jason and Shelby are joined by Micah Otano—multi-platinum producer, songwriter, and musician whose credits include Frank Ocean, Solange, Fantasia, and more. From touring with Solange to crafting Grammy-winning records, Micah shares insider stories, creative insights, and the journey behind his powerhouse career in music.…
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This week, Jason and Shelby welcome their first-ever international guest – rising Canadian singer-songwriter Alex Coles! 🌎✨ Join us as we dive into Alex’s journey from Toronto to the global stage, unpack his creative process behind hits like Bored Games and Act Natural, and explore how he’s connecting with a rapidly growing fanbase around the world…
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This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby sit down with Nashville-based singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Parker Mathews — one half of the rising alt-pop duo Nox Holloway. With a background in audio engineering and a knack for blending genres, Parker’s fingerprints are all over the band’s sound — from songwriting and product…
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You can't sing where?!?! Crazy singing laws in the U.S.
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30:20This week, Jason and Shelby uncover the wildest and weirdest singing laws across the U.S.—from humming in weird places to full-on bans in public spots. Why were these laws made? Are they real? And could you be breaking one without even knowing it? Tune in for laughs, legal oddities, and a whole lot of vocal disbelief. 🗣️ Hit play. You might be an o…
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Make Room: Bekah Williams on Music, Surrender, and the Local Church
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1:08:33This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by worship leader and songwriter Bekah (White) Williams, the voice behind powerful worship anthems like "Rest On Us" and "Make Room." From touring with Green Day and opening for Fergie, to laying it all down and finding her place in the local church, Bekah shares her raw, redemptive journey of faith. She opens…
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Coachella Chaos & Shelby Learns About Fyre Fest
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35:19This week, Jason and Shelby dive into the wildest stories from Coachella 2025 — think 12-hour waits just to enter, surprise twisters hitting the campgrounds at night, and fireworks gone very wrong. But the real moment? When Shelby learns what really happened at Fyre Festival… and what Andy almost did to get those water bottles through customs 😳💧…
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Fluffy hair at baseball camp with Ari!
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1:10:44In this episode, Jason and Shelby are joined by the radiant Ari (@arianevr)—celebrity makeup artist, hair stylist, and Nashville creative force. Ariane takes us behind the scenes of her journey from small-town beginnings to becoming a go-to glam expert for artists, brides, and red carpet regulars. But just as things start to get real… Jason’s stoma…
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Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they celebrate one incredible year of The Vocal Lab Podcast! In this special anniversary episode, they reflect on the joys, challenges, and behind-the-scenes moments that shaped their first season. From unforgettable guests to inspiring vocal breakthroughs, Jason and Shelby share their favorite highligh…
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Legacy Media: Dying Breed or Evolution in Progress
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33:34Join hosts Jason and Shelby as they dig into the uncertain future of legacy media. From cable news to print journalism, is the old guard fading into obscurity—or just gearing up for a reinvention? Expect bold takes, sharp insights, and a few sparks as they challenge the myths, dissect the trends, and ask the big question: Can legacy media still lea…
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What if you could invite any legendary artist to dinner? This week, Jason and Shelby go head-to-head in a fantasy dinner party draft—each curating their dream guest list of musical icons. Who will they pick? What surprising combos will sit side by side? And what kind of chaos would unfold at the table? Tune in for laughs, friendly competition, and …
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This week, we’re pulling back the curtain on artist development. Is it just image, music, and marketing—or is there more beneath the surface? Jason and Shelby dive deep into what it really takes to grow as an artist, exploring not just the outer brand, but the inner man. Because great art doesn’t just sound good—it comes from someone solid on the i…
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Field of dreams! Derrick Southerland
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1:06:43This week, Jason and Shelby sit down with Grammy-nominated songwriter Derrick Southerland—the creative force behind hits like More Hearts Than Mine by Ingrid Andress, Like a Rodeo by Kane Brown, and Mexico by Carrie Underwood. From writing songs that break hearts (Yearbook) to ones that fill stadiums (Single Man), Derrick opens up about the realsto…
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This week, hosts Jason and Shelby sit down with Blake Thomson from STATUS10 to hear his incredible journey—from being broke in Hawaii, going door to door in search of work, to building a thriving business that helps entrepreneurs uncover and amplify their personal brands. It’s raw, inspiring, and packed with insight. Don’t miss this powerful conver…
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Episode Title: “Mic Drops & Mishaps: Our Most Embarrassing Live Performance Stories” In this episode of The Vocal Lab Collective, Jason and Shelby are getting real—and really vulnerable. They’re spilling the tea on their most embarrassing live performance moments, from confidence monitor malfunctions to tiny head gigs in the lower east side. But it…
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🎙️ New Episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast! This week, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins flip the script and bring Vocal Lab’s very own producer and editor Carlos out from behind the lens and into the spotlight! Carlos opens up about his unforgettable journey on The Voice — from the moment his dad told him about the callback, to the life-changing …
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On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by none other than Clark Beckham — artist, vocal powerhouse, and passionate teacher. In a candid and inspiring conversation, Clark opens up about the twists and turns of his musical journey, starting with his early days busking on Lower Broadway in Nashville,…
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🎙️ The Vocal Lab Podcast – Studio vs. Live Singing 🎶 In this episode, Jason and Shelby dive into the fascinating world of studio singing vs. live performance. What makes them so different? Which one demands more precision—or more emotion? Join us as we explore the unique challenges, unexpected perks, and behind-the-scenes realities of both settings…
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The Vocal Lab Podcast – where myths get busted, and voices get heard! 🎤✨ Join expert vocal coaches Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they break down the worst singing advice you’ve ever heard—like “Push more!”, “Don’t sing at all!”, and “Breathe this way… or else!” 🚫🎶 If you've ever been confused by vocal tips that just don’t work, this is the sho…
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Dani Rose is a country music singer-songwriter based in Nashville, Tennessee. She’s known for her work both as a solo artist and as a member of the country trio Honey County, which she co-founded in 2014. Her music blends contemporary country with elements of Nashville twang and soaring melodies, often reflecting her diverse roots from California, …
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🎙️ Vocal Lab Podcast: Cursive Singing – The Trend, The Truth, The Voice🎙️ Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they dive deep into the rising trend of Cursive Singing — a style that’s sweeping the charts and sparking debate. Why is everyone suddenly embracing this fluid, melismatic approach? Is it an authentic expression of vocal artistry,…
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Is It Harder for Artists to Learn to Sing Today, or Are They Just Lazy?
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25:22🎙️ Vocal Lab Podcast Hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins dive into the age-old debate: Do artists really face tougher challenges in improving their voices due to the pressures of today's music industry, or is it a matter of putting in the work? Join them for an insightful conversation as they unpack the evolving demands of the modern musical land…
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Should you pay to play in the music industry?
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17:39Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins for a lively discussion about the controversial world of "pay to play" in the music industry. Is it morally right, wrong, or somewhere in between? They'll dive deep into the pros, cons, and gray areas of this practice. Plus, Jason shares a hilarious and slightly painful story about his first voice teacher—…
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Welcome to The Vocal Lab Podcast, where vocal coach Jason Catron and expert Shelby Rollins dive deep into the world of vocal coaching! In today’s episode, they break down what makes a great coach, what doesn’t, and all the unspoken rules of the industry. Plus, Shelby gets a crash course in internet history as Jason introduces her to the legendary (…
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The 5 pillars of artist management with Dillon Goldberg!
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45:18On this episode of the Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by artist manager Dillon Goldberg. Dillon takes us on a journey from his roots in Virginia Beach to his five years in LA, and how his recent move to Nashville has shaped his approach to artist management. He dives into the key lessons he's learned and reveals…
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On this episode of The Vocal Lab Collective, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins explore the controversy that erupted at the 2025 Grammys, sparked by Beyoncé’s emotional reaction to her win. Was it a moment of pure authenticity, or was it tainted by the shady processes behind the Grammy voting system? With questionable voting methods and accusati…
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If I can't feel it, I wont' fight it! Alisa Turner
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58:31This week on The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins sit down with the incredibly talented artist, Alisa Turner. With a voice that resonates deeply and a story that inspires, Alisa takes us on a journey through her remarkable life and career. From her comical yet bold departure from Liberty University—where she literally packed…
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Dreams and Destiny: Vanessa Campagna on the Song Celine Dion Made Her Own
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1:01:32On this episode of the Vocal Lab Collective Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins sit down with talented singer-songwriter Vanessa Campagna. Originally from Pennsylvania and now based in Nashville, Vanessa is known for her powerful vocals and emotional depth. She co-wrote the heartfelt ballad "Who I Am" with Wyn Starks for the Celine Dion:…
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Rolling & singing your way to 3.7 million followers with Jeremiah Miller!
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40:28On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by Jeremiah Miller, the TikTok sensation known for his spontaneous flashmob-style performances. Jeremiah rides his electric one wheeled skateboard while singing in public places, often getting kicked out by security in the process, all while delivering unique…
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Should you move to a major city to pursue your career as an artist? Shelby VS Jason!!!
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24:42In this episode, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins go head-to-head on a heated debate: Should you move to a major city to pursue your career as an artist? Shelby argues for the move, highlighting the opportunities, connections, and inspiration that come with big city life. Meanwhile, Jason makes a strong case against it, pointing out the challe…
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How Heather Vassar Helped Break Shaboozey & Revolutionize the Music Industry
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1:03:26In this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by Heather Vassar, Senior Vice President at EMPIRE. With over a decade of experience in the music industry, Heather has been instrumental in establishing EMPIRE’s Nashville division, achieving remarkable milestones like the fastest #1 record for an independen…
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Don't be so precious and hustle! Rick Seibold
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44:22This week, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by Rick Seibold, a powerhouse songwriter, recording artist, and composer based just outside of Nashville, TN. With two GMA Dove Awards, multiple Billboard #1 hits, and nearly a billion streams/views, Rick has made his mark across genres and platforms. In this episode, Rick shares his journ…
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Sony Recording Artist Madison Watkins Talks Faith, Media and the Power of Never Giving Up on Your Dream
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1:01:49The Vocal Lab Podcast: Madison Watkins - From LA to Nashville In this week's episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins sit down with Madison Watkins, a rising star who first caught the spotlight on American Idol and has since made waves as a singer-songwriter in Nashville. Madison shares her journey from her early days…
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The reactionsphere!!! Demystifying the world of reaction videos
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38:19Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they dive into the dynamic world of YouTube’s reaction space. In this episode, they explore how the explosion of reaction videos has transformed the music landscape—giving rise to a new wave of artist discovery, propelling vocal coaches into the spotlight, and creating a vibrant community of music lover…
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Broadwayyyyy!!! Special guest Mark Kurian
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56:45Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they welcome The Broadway Besties' very own, Mark Kurian, for a fun and insightful chat about all things Broadway! From the magic of musical theater to the power of a well-timed showstopper, they dive into what makes Broadway so electrifying. Whether you're a theater nerd or just love a good story, this…
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Join hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins as they dive into the magic of holiday music in the latest episode of The Vocal Lab Collective. In this special holiday edition, they explore what makes the season’s tunes so unforgettable, from the timeless classics of Michael Bublé to the legendary vocals of Mariah Carey. Together, Jason and Shelby unpac…
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Fluid vs. Crystallized intelligence with Producer Carlos
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37:39In this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins are joined by producer Carlos Santiago for a deep dive into the fascinating world of intelligence. Together, they explore the difference between fluid and crystallized intelligence, and how these concepts shape our creativity at different stages of life. From the sponta…
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I'm taking French!!! Coach profile of Shelby Rollins
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46:39This week on *The Vocal Lab Podcast*, host Jason Catron flips the script and interviews his very own co-host, Shelby Rollins! Get an inside look at Shelby's journey into music and coaching, her most embarrassing moment (you won't believe it!), and the surprising answer to who her favorite child is. Tune in for laughter, candid stories, and some une…
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Welcome to The Vocal Lab Podcast! Join host Shelby Rollins as she dives deep with co-host Jason Catron in this exciting episode. Together, they explore Jason's journey through life, faith, and artistry, unraveling the inspirations that shape his creative vision. Plus, get ready for a lighthearted discussion on the quirky origins of the term "tooty …
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The rhythm of rest within increased productivity with Allison Morris!
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41:22Welcome to The Vocal Lab Podcast! Join hosts Jason and Shelby as they explore "The Rhythm of Rest within Increased Productivity" with special guest Allison Morris. This episode delves into the essential balance between work and rest in a songwriting career. Discover how taking regular breaks and allowing time for recovery can enhance focus, creativ…
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