Clinicians have trained in the art and science of medicine, and yet feel powerless to make a meaningful impact on the healthcare system. Clinical Changemakers is the podcast looking to bridge this gap by exploring inspiring stories of leadership, innovation and so much more. To learn more and join the conversation, visit: www.clinicalchangemakers.com www.clinicalchangemakers.com
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Purpose‑driven leaders share candid stories and practical frameworks for resilience, values‑based leadership, and impact. Hosted by veteran Michelle Dutro. The Game Changer Podcast spotlights the leaders, founders, creators, and clinicians who turn adversity into impact. Each episode is a genuine conversation—no canned pitches—designed to give listeners both the why and the how: the mindsets, models, and micro‑actions that create meaningful change at work and in life. Your host, Michelle Dut ...
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In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro explores the profound impact of the spoken word on relationships and society. She emphasizes the importance of being impeccable with our words, drawing from various philosophical and religious teachings. The conversation delves into the challenges of truthfulness in communication, the nece…
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The Ethics of AI in Healthcare: Beyond the Stochastic Parrot | Dr. Jessica Morley (Yale Digital Ethics Centre)
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1:03:14"AI has the potential to re-ontologize healthcare—to completely redesign what we consider to be a disease, what we consider to be a disability, and how we organise care. But we need to decide what good healthcare actually means before we AI-ify everything." — Dr Jessica Morley In this episode of Clinical Changemakers, Dr Jessica Morley, an AI ethic…
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145: Your Brain on Breaking News: Everyday Hypnosis & How to Choose Intention with Garrett Wood
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39:39In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, host Michelle Dutro engages with Garrett Wood, a hypnotherapist and founder of Gnosis Therapy, to explore the psychological impacts of divisiveness in today's world. They discuss the role of hypnosis in addressing subconscious beliefs related to money and health, the influence of media and social media o…
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In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro discusses the impact of constant news consumption and social media on our mental health, and emphasizes the importance of taking personal responsibility for our reactions. Michelle encourages listeners to find proactive ways to maintain calm and mental well-being amidst the chaos. Chapters…
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143: Unlocking Resilience: A Conversation with Michael Ostrolenk
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43:19In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro engages in a profound conversation with Michael Ostrilenk about resilience, particularly in the context of recent tragic events. They explore the definition of resilience, its emotional, interpersonal, and physical pillars, and the importance of understanding and managing emotions. Michael…
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142: The Power of Perception in Shaping Reality
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5:46In this episode of the Game Changer Podcast, Michelle Dutro explores the profound impact of perception and beliefs on our reality. She discusses the Rosenhan experiment, which highlights how judgments can be flawed and how our minds tend to reinforce our beliefs. Through various studies, she illustrates the self-fulfilling prophecy effect, emphasiz…
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How Systems Thinking Can Fix Healthcare's Organizational Chaos | Dr Sharen Paine
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1:11:55"We want a two-way flow of communication so that we have a better understanding through the levels of an organisation up through those levels of what's actually happening and we can make decisions closer to the ground." — Dr. Sharen Paine In this episode of Clinical Changemakers, Dr. Sharen Paine, a systems thinking expert with a doctorate in busin…
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141: David Trotter: Why Your Story Matters
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33:30In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro interviews David Trotter, exploring his journey from a pastor in Kentucky to a successful entrepreneur and creator of Awaken Magazine. David shares his experiences with burnout, mental health, and the importance of self-acceptance. He emphasizes the shift from performance to service and th…
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140: My Internal Struggle With Authenticity
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10:04In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro discusses the significance of mastermind meetings and the importance of authenticity in self-identity. She shares her personal experiences from a recent mastermind event, where she was encouraged to embrace her true self, despite societal pressures to conform. The conversation emphasizes t…
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139: The Moment I Discovered My Inner North Star | Featured in Awakened Magazine
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1:01:46Explore the remarkable journey of Michelle Dutro, an Air Force veteran and former firefighter, as she shares her path to founding the Inner North Star Retreat Center. In this episode, Michelle discusses her transition from crisis response to preventative healing, revealing the pivotal moments that led her to embrace a life of spiritual guidance and…
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138: Taking An Uber To Catch An Amazon Delivery Van
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12:23Join Michelle Dutro on a whirlwind adventure through San Diego as she chases down an Amazon delivery, only to discover the power of enthusiasm and positive language. From near tears to triumphant cheers, this episode of the Game Changer Podcast is a testament to how our words and attitudes can transform everyday experiences. Don't miss the inspirin…
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137: The Game Changer Podcast Relaunch: Mental Health Insights with Kathy Gruver, PhD
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45:01In this episode of the Game Changer podcast, Michelle Dutro relaunches the show with guest Kathy Gruver, PhD, who shares her extensive background in natural health and wellness. They discuss the ongoing stress levels in the world, effective tools for managing anxiety, the importance of language and affirmations, and navigating social obligations wi…
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AI's Jagged Frontier and Why Human Judgement Still Matters | Dr Graham Walker (Kaiser Permanente)
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54:47"I think judgment, I've been honing in on that word more frequently recently because I feel like the judgment piece is the piece that feels particularly like human in this decision." — Dr Graham Walker In this episode of Clinical Changemakers, Dr Graham Walker, an ER doctor and AI healthcare leader, discusses his role at Kaiser Permanente and the c…
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The Rise, Fall, and AI-Powered Rebirth of Evidence-Based Medicine | Dr. Richard Lehman & Dr. Raj Mehta
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1:02:47“You know, what if they were to actually put it’s [AI] mind to a science of practical compassion for everybody?… if the right machines were to come along and help us do it, that's going to be a fabulous thing.” Dr Richard Lehman is a retired GP from Oxfordshire who had a "ringside seat" to the birth of evidence-based medicine, previously held acade…
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Scaling Evidence-Based Medicine Across 630,000 sq Miles | Dr Raj Srivastava (Chief Clinical Programs Officer, Intermountain Health)
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43:48"When the frontline feels we're actually offering, 'what do you need? What are the resources we can help?' We'll co-create. Of course, they don't have the control of the resources or some decisions, but that's what executives can do." Dr. Raj Srivastava is a pediatrician, health system leader, and implementation science researcher, serving as Chief…
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How One Doctor's Career Pivot Inspired 25,000 Others to Rethink Medicine | Dr. Amandeep Hansra (Founder, Investor & Chief Clinical Adviser)
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48:57"At the end of the day, we don't really invest as much into products as we do into people. It's the people behind the products that are going to make the product successful" Dr. Amandeep Hansra is a general practitioner turned health tech entrepreneur, advisor, and investor, founder of the Creative Careers in Medicine community (with over 25,000 me…
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A Philosopher-Physician's Fight To Reclaim Medicine's Soul | Dr. Vikas Saini (President of Lown Institute)
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49:26"The enterprise of medicine has both scientific and moral dimensions, and they're inextricably balanced" Dr Vikas Saini is a Cardiologist and President of the Lown Institute, where he leads a non-partisan think tank advocating bold ideas for a just and caring system for health. With a unique background combining philosophy and medicine, Dr. Saini h…
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Goal-Oriented Healthcare: Breaking Free from the Problem-Focused Paradigm | Dr. James Mold (University of Oklahoma)
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44:25"The way to prevent cascades is to keep your eye on the goal, to understand what you're trying to accomplish and not to go down rabbit holes chasing abnormalities, but rather to be focused on the outcome that you're looking for." Dr James W. Mold is a family medicine physician, geriatrician, researcher and academic with a Master of Public Health de…
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Networks, Culture & Safety: How to Build Effective Healthcare Organizations | Prof. Ingrid Nembhard (Wharton School)
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45:48"We need to pay more attention to the networks that operate between people and the networks that operate between organisations.” Professor Ingrid Nembhard is an Organisational Behaviour expert in healthcare systems, based at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Her research focuses on how characteristics of health care organisation…
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Liberate Health Data and Escape the EHR Trap | Dr Sidharth Ramesh (Medblocks Founder)
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45:20"Epic charges researchers to access the data that the same Institute has spent thousands of hours storing. They're not a good custodian of data... they're literally locking your data away and holding it for ransom." — Dr. Sidharth Ramesh Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Sidharth Ramesh is a medical doctor,…
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From Evidence to Exit: Building Credible Health Tech | Dr Saira Ghafur (Co-Founder of Provea Health & Lead for Digital Health at Imperial College)
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40:56“The market was flooded with all these new tools and technologies that people were using, but no real evidence base behind them. Now we’re in this space where we need evidence. — Dr Saira Ghafur Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Saira Ghafur is a medical doctor specialising in respiratory medicine, an acade…
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Customer Obsession in Healthcare: Primary Care Redefined | Dr Raj Behal (Amazon One Medical)
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47:40"I think of quality as what is the patient's ‘job to be done’. What are they trying to get out of this encounter or from their help? What are they trying to achieve? Making quality about that." — Dr Raj Behal. Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr. Raj Behal is a medical doctor and Chief Quality Officer at Amaz…
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The Economic Imperative: Why Health Equity Matters for Everyone | Prof. Bola Owolabi (NHS England Director)
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48:34"The greatest legacy we can leave as this generation of leaders is to make meaningful progress in narrowing those health inequalities between communities." — Prof Bola Owolabi. Episode Overview In this episode, Professor Bola Owolabi, GP and National Director for Healthcare Inequalities at NHS England, shares her insights on health inequalities in …
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Money, Power, Health: How Corporations Shape Our Health | Dr. Nason Maani (Commercial Determinants Researcher)
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50:01"The health impact of corporate power isn't just about products—it's about how commercial interests shape the entire landscape of health policy and research." — Dr Nason Maani Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Nason Maani, lecturer in Inequalities and Global Health Policy at the University of Edinburgh, aut…
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Science Communication: Why the Basics Matter in an Age of Sound Bites | Dr Aaron Carroll (CEO of Academy Health)
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45:15"I'd rather have people understand why they should believe something, not just that they should." — Dr Aaron Carroll Listen now on Apple, Spotify, YouTube and or wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Aaron Carroll, pediatrician, professor, president and CEO of Academy Health, and renowned science communicator, discusses the art and science of effectiv…
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Leading New York State & Bridging the Private Sector | Dr Nirav R. Shah (Senior Scholar at Stanford)
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47:19"There is a lot of mistrust between the two, the private sector thinks about government bureaucrats who've done the same way for 20 years...the public sector talks about the private sector... who just want to make money at any cost... and they're both wrong." - Dr Nirav Shah, Senior Scholar at Stanford. In this episode, Dr Nirav Shah reflects on hi…
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The Intersection of Invention, Innovation & Business | Dr Josh Makower (Serial Entrepreneur, Investor, Leader of Bio-design)
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37:13“You can be successful as an innovator, even as a physician or any other background you have, as long as you follow the process and really focus on the needs. That's the key.” — Dr Josh Makower, Director and Co-Founder of the Stanford Byers Center for Biodesign. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Dr Joshua…
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Moral Injury & the Musical Chairs of Housing | Dr Margot Kushel (Director of the UCSF Benioff Homelessness and Housing Initiative)
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43:51"There is a very evidence-based way to house people for people who are experiencing homelessness, it has been around a long time, it's been testing empirically, it's called housing first" — Dr Margot Kushel, Director of the UCSF Benioff Homelessness and Housing Initiative. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode…
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Exploring AI, ChatGPT and Clinical Informatics | Professor Nigam Shah (Founder, Chief Data Scientist for Stanford Health Care)
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40:38"Even though you trained them for something silly, like to predict the new word, new capabilities emerged, as in, now they can answer, which is something they weren't trained for" — Professor Nigam Shah, Chief Data Scientist for Stanford Health Care. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Professor Nigam Shah …
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Leading a Nation through a Global Pandemic | Sir Ashley Bloomfield (Former Director General Of Health)
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43:47"One of the conclusions I've drawn from COVID...in a sense, was that our communications approach was our most important public health intervention" — Sir Ashley Bloomfield, Former Director General Of Health, New Zealand. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Sir Ashley Bloomfield reflects on his humble upbrin…
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Power, Managers & the Science of Teams | Professor Sara Singer (Director of the HELIO Labs at Stanford Medicine)
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38:40"You have to be somewhat more strategic, you have to identify your sources of power and use those sources of power to influence the people you want to enact whatever it is you are asking of them" — Professor Sara Singer, Director of the HELIO Labs at Stanford Medicine. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Pr…
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Venture Capital in Silicon Valley - From Clinician to Investor | Dr Oliver Keown (Director at Intuitive Ventures)
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43:39"In times of hesitancy in the market, leaders lean in, they assert themselves, they flex and they find an opportunity” — Dr Oliver Keown, managing director of Intuitive Ventures. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Dr. Oliver Keown discusses his career journey from a doctor in the UK's National Health Servi…
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Trust, Strategy and Resilience & Moving Healthcare Forward | Dr Thomas H. Lee (Harvard Professor, Chief Medical Officer at Press Ganey)
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41:43"There's good news, we're actually seeing signs of a virtuous cycle, we're seeing [workforce] pride in organizations and that leads to people working together better, making the care better, which means the patients are more grateful, which makes people feel even more pride". — Dr. Thomas H. Lee, Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School and …
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Upstream Doctors & Social Interventions Research | Dr Laura Gottlieb (Director of Social Interventions Research & Evaluation Network)
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39:51"We think as healthcare institutions as just healthcare institutions...actually healthcare institutions are just big businesses that happen to do healthcare, this idea is that there is a whole array of other activities besides healthcare, that have an enormous impact on our local communities" — Dr. Laura Gottlieb, Family Physician and Director of S…
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Digital Health and Career Reflections at Microsoft | Dr. Simon Kos (Former Chief Medical Officer)
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50:29"If we had a multitiered, multilayered approach to clinical leadership where we don't just provide about patient care, but we think about improving the processes and tools...and leave a legacy over time then I think we'd have greater success in driving digital change in health" — Dr Simon Kos, Healthcare Executive at Microsoft. In this episode, Dr …
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Journey to Zero - How to Lead the Climate Revolution in Healthcare | Dr Nick Watts (Chief Sustainability Officer, NHS)
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48:12"Don't let the fact that you don't know the last step, stop you from acting today.” — Dr Nick Watts, Chief Sustainability Officer, NHS. Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. In this episode, Dr Nick Watts discusses what it takes to be part of a world-leading race to zero carbon emissions in healthcare. Dr Watt reflects on his…
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Leadership by Design at the Mayo Clinic | Dr. Stephen Swensen (Former Director for Leadership and Organization Development)
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44:28“Culture is absolutely the mortar between the bricks and the primary value of Mayo Clinic that everyone knows. From the environmental services folks to the accountants, to the nurses and doctors and social workers, the needs of the patient come first.” — Dr. Stephen Swensen, Former Director for Leadership and Organization Development at Mayo Clinic…
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Demystifying Organizational Behavior in Healthcare | Professor Amy Edmondson (Harvard Professor of Leadership and Management)
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46:37"Psychological safety is at the very heart of this discussion... a belief that it is safe for interpersonal risk...in my research I have found this not to be the norm, but it is a very powerful thing when it's there." — Professor Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School. In this episode, Novartis Pro…
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Complex Systems & the Quality Improvement Toolbox | Dr Kedar Mate (President & CEO of the Institute for Healthcare Improvement)
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50:30"When you face those problems, you have a couple of choices, right? You can say, these problems are too big for me and I can't solve them. Or you can say, these problems are going to persist unless I do something about them" — Dr Kedar Mate, President and CEO of the Institue for Healthcare Improvement Listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get y…
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Introduction Episode - A Call To Action For Transforming Healthcare
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5:23Listen now on Substack, Apple, Spotify, or where ever you get your podcasts. So it sounds to me like we have 21st-century problems with 20th-century approaches. So what do we do? Well, I believe that clinicians given the right skills and opportunity can be at the heart of solving many of these very complex issues. — Dr Jono Hoogebrug, Family Medici…
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136: It’s time to get rid of the “clutter” that is holding you back.
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4:44Well, here we are at the start of the first full week of the new year! How are the new resolutions, the new ways of thinking, and the new habits going? If you are still dabbling your toes in the pool of change, and unsure if carrot juice, a yoga class, or a 5K will make the biggest difference… consider this: Anything you would like to see improveme…
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133: What is your “4 minute mile” goal for 2020?
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10:40Happy New Year! Before you commit to your 2020 goals, make sure that you aren't limiting yourself by what you think is impossible. In this episode, I discuss the impact of Roger Bannister who on May 6th, 1954 was the first person in history to break the 4-minute mile barrier. While this was certainly history-making, what followed changed the way we…
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Hello and almost Happy New Year! I thought long and hard about how I wanted this kick-off show to go. Better said, how I want this next decade and chapter to go. One thing that's certain, is that I will be transparent about the good and bad, and do everything in my power to help you to believe that anything is possible. For that to happen we need t…
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131: What Happens When You Realize The Coolest Person In The Room Is… Your Mom!?!?
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18:23Happy Mother’s Day! I am blessed to have an amazing mom, and I am the mom of two incredible daughters. And as much as I look forward to this day each year, there has not been a time where I really had to reevaluate what it means to be a “great mom” as I have this week. In this episode I have the opportunity to read an article from a newspaper writt…
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130: After Being On The Road Again, I’m Back!
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10:45After a three month hiatus, I am so happy to be back! Lots of new and exciting things coming up. I hope you tune in to the next few upcoming episodes where I will be letting you know about everything headed your way. Some of the exciting events coming up include: a new podcast, a new location for me (yes again), and retreats I will be hosting. So m…
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129: When Mindfulness Meets A Self-Serving Fork In The Road…
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13:38Mindfulness. There are magazines, blogs, books, and hundreds of courses available on this topic. I have also recorded several podcasts about this, as well. Yet while I was in London at a conference, I had the opportunity to view mindfulness in a whole new light. I believe most people have the ability to be kind and considerate when things are going…
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128: Perspectives On Meditation, Consciousness, And Your Next Social Media Post
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40:42I think most people when faced with a situation that feels much larger than us, have felt, “What impact can I truly have?” So we go through life believing that our thoughts, our words, or our actions, have no consequence in the big picture. If that’s the case, then what is, collective consciousness? Here’s one definition, so that we are all on the …
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127: What Does It Mean To Be Truly Present?
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17:54I think it’s fair to say that most people would consider themselves being “present” whenever they are in a conversation with someone. They were there, they heard that the other person was talking, so they can check that box. However, there is a big difference between hearing someone and truly listening. In this episode “being present” is highlighte…
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126: Live From India, Please Join Me On The Journey
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16:45If you have EVER considered traveling to a location that is far away, a place you know little about, and is different from every aspect of your current life… make 2017 the year you do just that. There is such tremendous value when you can gain perspective and insight on your own life, when you make the effort to become an observer of your life. The…
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