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Be The Serpent

Alexandra Rowland, Freya Marske, Jennifer Mace

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A podcast by three red-headed fantasy authors talking about everything from academic mythology to dick jokes (and sometimes, both at once), as well as the role of fanfiction as an integral yet oft-overlooked part of the literary conversation and in the broader cultural context. It is, obviously, a podcast of extremely deep literary merit.
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Mind the Tags

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Welcome to Mind the Tags, where we talk about the history and evolution of fanfiction. Join Emily and Vee as they dive into a new fanfiction topic each episode and interview authors, researchers, journalists, and fans.
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Tor Publishing Group, in partnership with Literary Hub, presents Voyage Into Genre! Every other Wednesday, join host Drew Broussard for conversations with Tor authors discussing their new books, the future, and the future of genre. Oh, and maybe there'll be some surprises along the way... Tor Presents: Voyage Into Genre is a Lit Hub Radio podcast.
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Welcome to It’s Lit! [Unabridged], the sister podcast to the popular YouTube series It’s Lit!. Hosted by Princess Weekes, this 10-episode podcast spinoff will feature lively conversations with noted authors about their work, discussions about influential novels, and issues related to books and literature. It’s Lit! [Unabridged] delivers the conversations you want to have during your book club, but without having to actually sign up for one. Credits: Host, Writer + Producer - Princess Weekes ...
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview author Freya Marske. We chat with Freya about her history of writing fanfiction, the fandoms that shaped her, and the emerging popularity of sapphic romance and fantasy. Sources from this episode: Freya's Ao3A Marvellous Light by Freya Marske (first in the Last Binding trilogy) Gaywyck by Vi…
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Join Emily and Vee as they dive into the world of fanon and the ways in which fans interpret and transform the stories they love. Vee describes their three categories of fanon, and Emily climbs up on her perennial soapbox about her OTP. Both hosts challenge JJ Abrams to join the pod and DEFEND HIS HONOR. Topics include: Fanon, Star Wars, Star Trek,…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Marc Greenberg, Esq., a practicing attorney with an expertise in intellectual property and entertainment law. We discuss Marc's experience representing creators and researching the legal implications of fanworks in the United States, the ongoing challenge of AI in the creative space, and his…
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Join Emily and Vee as they explore the fascinating world of the omegaverse, including its common tropes and origin in Supernatural real person fanfiction (RPF). Emily discusses some of the motivations authors have shared for writing omegaverse fics, and both Emily and Vee wax poetic about the magical time that was 2010. Topics include: Omegaverse, …
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In this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Tara, a novelist and fanfiction writer. In this interview, we discuss similarities and differences between writing for traditional publication and for fandom. We also chat with Tara about their fandom journey, including their entree into fanfic-writing through Our Flag Means Death. Fics ment…
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Join Emily and Vee as they tackle how Harry Potter fic writers have responded to J.K. Rowling's public shift to transphobia in recent years. Vee shares their own experiences as a Harry Potter fic writer, and Emily adds some unasked-for attacks on long-dead composer Richard Wagner. Topics include: Orphaning fics, the relationship between creators an…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Dr. Naomi Jacobs, Lecturer in Design Policy and Futures Thinking at Lancaster University. In this interview, we discuss the printing and binding fanfiction ("fanbinding") and the ways in which creating physical copies of fanfiction is another type of transformative fanwork. We also chat with…
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Join Emily and Vee as they discuss the similarities and differences between fanfiction and original fiction, including worldbuilding, copyright, filing off the serial numbers and fanfic that becomes published, and the ever-evolving journey of the Mary Sue. Topics include: Publishing, legality of fanfiction, creative writing, Philip Roth shade If yo…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Dr. Alexis Lothian, Associate Professor at The Harriet Tubman Department of Women, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at the University of Maryland. We chat with Dr. Lothian about her foray into fanfiction in the early 2000s, as well as her scholarly work around speculative fiction, feminism and …
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Join Emily and Vee as they chat about the long and intricate relationship between fanart and fanfiction, the different legal and financial considerations between them, fanart commissions, and Vee's new venture as a lego artiste. Philadelphia vernacular warning to listeners: Emily uses the word "jawn" at least twice in this episode. Topics include: …
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Elizabeth Minkel, fandom journalist, co-host/editor of Fansplaining, and co-curator of The Rec Center. We talk about Elizabeth's travels through Buffy GeoCities of yore, what she loves and has learned about fanfiction over the years, and the trends she's observed in AI in fandom spaces. Chec…
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Join Emily and Vee as they discuss how participating in fanfiction can support writers and readers during times of uncertainty, and how the fanfic community can respond to political developments that threaten our communities. Topics include: Pleasure activism, anti-capitalism, gift culture, LGBTQIA+ representation, fan activism Sources from today's…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Lindie and boy, two incredible podficcers from the Our Flag Means Death fandom. Lindie and boy share what got them into podficcing, tricks of the trade, and some of their favorite things about recording fanworks. We've included some of the fics discussed in this episode below. You can find L…
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Join Emily and Vee as they discuss "femmeslash" and some of the ships that paved the way for fanfiction centered around romantic relationships between female characters. Topics include: Women in media, gender, the trend of burying your (sapphic) gays, and the lasting influence of Xena: Warrior Princess Sources from today's ep: Blorbo From My Shows …
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Lani and Jo, co-hosts of The Fanfic Writers' Craft, a podcast that discusses all things fanfiction with a focus on the art and science of writing for the enjoyment of fan communities. We talk about Jo's fandom beginnings in American procedurals, Lani's journey through the RENT fandom communi…
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For the final episode of this season, it's a Tor Nightfire spooky-season double-header! Kemi Ashing-Giwa (This World is Not Yours) and CJ Leede (American Rapture) drop in to talk about being scared, scaring others, and the power of horror to—just maybe—change the world. ** Tor Presents: Voyage into Genre is a co-production with Lit Hub Radio Hosted…
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Join Emily and Vee as they discuss why some fanfic writers create stories centered around M/M (or "slash") romance. Topics include: Gender expression, queer representation in media and fanfiction, and late breaking news about the patriarchy Sources from today's ep: Queerbaiting on Wikipedia How Do We Solve A Problem Like “Queerbaiting”?: On TV’s No…
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Just in time for spooky season, it's a Tor Teen episode of Voyage into Genre with two thrilling authors: Terry J. Benton-Walker and Sarah Henning! They chat with host Drew Broussard about writing scary stories for young people, modeling grief for their readers, and the joys of loving world-building. Terry J. Benton-Walker: The White Guy Dies First …
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Vee and Emily interview Diana, a writer and editor interested in queer theory, feminist theory, and media studies. We talk about some of Diana's favorite fandoms (including Inuyasha and Star Wars) and discuss the importance of fandom community when writing fanfiction. Thank you to Erik Potteiger for producing our s…
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This week: Zen Cho (The Friend Zone Experiment) and Freya Marske (Swordcrossed) talk with host Drew Broussard about the romance/romantasy boom, what 'low stakes' really means, and writing well-communicated stories about miscommunication. ** Tor Presents: Voyage into Genre is a co-production with Lit Hub Radio Hosted by Drew Broussard Audio engineer…
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Join Emily and new co-host Vee as they discuss alternate universes (AUs), including their own experiences reading and writing AUs. Topics include: Canon and cannons, Gulliver's most...interesting travels, and the limitless possibilities of expanding universes to infinity and beyond. Sources from today's ep: Alternate Universe on Fanlore In Favor wi…
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This week: O.O. Sangoyomi (Masquerade) and Rita Woods (The Last Dreamwalker) talk with host Drew Broussard about unearthing histories and making them reverberate, blurring genre distinctions, and the relationships between mothers and children in both life and fiction. ** Tor Presents: Voyage into Genre is a co-production with Lit Hub Radio Hosted b…
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This week: Suyi Davies Okungbowa (Lost Ark Dreaming) and Brenda Peynado (Time's Agent) talk with host Drew Broussard about bleak futures, grounding stories in the present, and what it means to have hope in strange times. ** Tor Presents: Voyage into Genre is a co-production with Lit Hub Radio Hosted by Drew Broussard Audio engineering + production …
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Join Emily and Jay Castello as they discuss Jay’s 2022 article on The Verge: Archive of Our Own’s 15-year journey from blog post to fanfiction powerhouse. Emily and Jay dive into their own fanfiction experiences and share their perspectives on Ao3's important history and future. Topics include: The mysterious business of tag wrangling, what makes A…
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The voyage continues! Another season of Voyage into Genre kicks off with a refreshed format—so make a little more room on the ship, as we welcome two authors at once! Ananda Lima (Craft: Stories I Wrote For the Devil) and L.M. Sagas (Cascade Failure + Gravity Lost) talk with host Drew Broussard about embracing genre, the political importance of gen…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily interview Elf Herself, a fandom archivist who supports the Organization of Transformative Works (OTW), where she works on the Fanlore and Open Doors projects. We talk about Elf's own fandom journey, her involvement with the OTW at its launch, and her ongoing work for the organization. Follow Elf o…
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Join Kristin and Emily as they talk about a quirky invention called the World Wide Web, and how the internet changed the landscape of fanfiction. We talk about Usenet groups, Fanfiction.net, and The Great Purge of 2002. Sources from today's ep: A Brief History of Modern Fanfiction: the Migration of Online Communities by Katherine alt.tv.x-files (AT…
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The first-ever Voyage into Genre live tour is in the books—and what a tour it was! Intrepid authors Andrea Hairston, Veronica Roth, Rebecca Thorne, and Nghi Vo spent a whirlwind week traveling from Seattle to New York with stops every night along the way. We're pleased to share excerpts from their tour kick-off at Third Place Books (with TJ Klune m…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily interview Jay Castello, a freelance writer who covers fandom among other topics. We talk about Jay's own fandom journey, some of her journalistic work, the importance of fanfic preservation, and the future of fanfic. Follow Jay on Bluesky here and on X here. Thank you to Erik Potteiger for produci…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily discuss the history of fanzines, their rise in popularity, and the changing landscape of zines during the age of the internet. Today's word of the day is "tropes!" Sources from today's ep: Trope definition on Fanlore History of Media Fanzines on Fanlore Zines and the Internet on Fanlore Star Trek …
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily interview Killabeez, creator of the K/S Fanfiction Archive. We talk about Killa's fanfiction journey and her love of Star Trek. Follow Killabeez on Bluesky here and on Dreamwidth here. Thank you to Erik Potteiger for producing our song and Haflacky for our logo design.…
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Fandom. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship fanfiction. Its continuing mission: to explore the love fans have for their favorite characters in media; to connect with other people who are also feral for their ships of choice; to boldly go where no fan has gone before! Join Kristin and Emily as they talk about the legacy of Star…
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On this episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily interview Alexandra Edwards, author of Before Fanfiction: Recovering the Literary History of American Media Fandom. We talk about Alexanda's fanfiction research and her own experience as a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan on The Bronze. Check out Alexandra's book here! Follow Alexandra on X here. Than…
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On the first full-length episode of Mind the Tags, Kristin and Emily dive into the origins and early history of fanfiction and showcase their first word of the day: "fandom!" Sources from today's ep: Fanlore.org pages: Fandom Fanfiction The Three Generations of Fanfic Before Fanfiction by Alexandra Edwards "Fan Fiction Was Just as Sexual in the 170…
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Tor Publishing Group and Lit Hub are thrilled to present an evening of fantasy at a LIVE version of our popular Voyage Into Genre podcast. Join Andrea Hairston, Nghi Vo, Rebecca Thorne, and Veronica Roth on an epic road trip across the US beginning May 13! For tour stops, ticket information, and more, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. V…
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It's the last week of the season and we're getting into the big Fs: feelings, fear, friendship, family. Fun! ITINERARY: Kristen Simmons (Find Him Where You Left Him Dead) discusses the difference between Eastern and Western ghosts, why teenagers deserve real fiction, and inventing a terrifying game for her characters to play. Johnny Compton (The Sp…
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This week, we travel to the Big Smoke! It's London across time and relative dimensions in space, with magic and monsters and the mystery of antiquarian book-selling. ITINERARY: V.E. Schwab (The Fragile Threads of Power) talks about the joy of revisiting old friends on the page, the complicated ethics of power, and why it is that London calls to her…
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It's time to break out your best 1960s-Batman graphics -- because it's an action-packed episode about ACTION! ITINERARY: S. L. Huang (The Water Outlaws) explains the historical roots of Water Margin, muses on what being a stunt performer brings to writing, interrogates the ethical questions humanity has grappled with for centuries, and lets us all …
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This week, we're getting our hands dirty -- it's a nature ep! Sort of! Featuring eldritch coming-of-age stories, first contact tales, and how we might re-envision ourselves as a part of this planet's ecosystem instead of somehow outside of it. ITINERARY: S.L. Coney (Wild Spaces) talks about the present-tense of their novella, the power of writing a…
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Our voyage this week takes us into the waters of fundamentalism, from a space station with the last(?) vestiges of humanity to a city in a world much like ours except for the cults and the anti-gods floating around before coming back around to our world and the mystery cult around a guy called Jesus. ITINERARY: Emily Tesh (Some Desperate Glory) on …
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Looks like Team Genre is blasting off again! This season kicks off with an examination of hope, from a magical circus between the World Wars to a conversion camp in Montana to a globe-trotting optimist. No matter how down you might feel about the world these days, this episode will give you a little more pep in your step. ITINERARY: J.R. Dawson (Th…
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What's that sound back there, in the back of your mind? Could it be... YES!Voyage into Genre is back for another trip! Episodes air every other week beginning Weds Aug 9 -- and this season's line-up is better than ever. Maybe you can even hear a couple of guests in the static... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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For the last episode of this season, it's time to think about collections -- story collections! Even more specifically, multi-author anthologies of new (or new-to-the-readership) work! So let's take a trip to China, to Africa, and to Pasedena, CA for some thoughts on collection and curation. ITINERARY: Regina Kanyu Wang (The Way Spring Arrives and …
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It's time to go long and think about epics! But actually, we're thinking about the people who make up those epics. It's the best of both worlds really: you get the big space battles and also the interpersonal conflicts, the questions of morality and justice alongside mistakes and goofs. How like life! ITINERARY: Neon Yang (The Genesis of Misery) ta…
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It's time to go back to school, which means we're reading to figure out who we are! Let's get thinking about the books -- and the people -- that shape us and teach us and define us. ITINERARY: Sunyi Dean (The Book Eaters) talks about whether its possible to be a good person, letting go of perfection, and her book-devouring vampires. (Recorded live …
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Today is a true journey into the unknown, for me anyway: romance fiction. In the space of two books, I go from not thinking it was for me to absolutely adoring what Alexandra Rowland dubs “fealty and feelings” novels — so let’s go, let’s get into it, let’s get our hearts messy! And we’ll think a bit about the politics of romance, too… CW: some disc…
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Strap on your shiny sunglasses: we’re headed to near-future Delhi, an upscale apartment block where no one touches one another, and then right back here to this most pivotal moment for humanity. ITINERARY: Samit Basu (The City Inside) talks about being told your book is a dystopia when you didn’t write it that way and what it means to be on social …
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It's haunted house day on our voyage -- hope you packed your flashlights... ITINERARY: Sarah Gailey (Just Like Home) explains why under the bed is the scariest place in the house, defying the pull of easy narrative, and why you should have empathy for haunted houses. T. Kingfisher (What Moves the Dead) talks about the fascinating world of fungi, hi…
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Voyage into Genre is back for season two! Host Drew Broussard welcomes a new batch of Tor authors with new books, new locations, and new surprise guests! Have your tickets ready and step right this way. New episodes every other Wednesday, starting July 27th. if you're enjoying the show, give us a review! tell your friends! and please stand clear of…
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