The power of the outdoors can be transformative. Connecting with new experiences and like-minded people through walking, climbing and mountaineering creates powerful communities and lifelong memories. We want to diversify the people we normally hear talking about the outdoors, celebrate their stories, shine a light on their insights, and create a place for discussion, inclusion and practical advice. So welcome to Finding Our Way, a podcast that aims to be thought-provoking, upbeat and entert ...
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Here on Equine Assisted World. We look at the cutting edge and the best practices currently being developed and, established in the equine assisted field. This can be psychological, this can be neuropsych, this can be physical, this can be all of the conditions that human beings have that these lovely equines, these beautiful horses that we work with, help us with. Your Host is New York Times bestselling author Rupert Isaacson. Long time human rights activist, Rupert helped a group of Bushme ...
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Autistic Voices in Equine Therapy: Dr. Rebecca Evanko on Female Autism & Wilder Wood | Ep 37
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1:56:42From a childhood marked by abandonment in Australia to building a groundbreaking equine-assisted program in New Mexico, Dr. Rebecca Evanko’s story is one of resilience, survival, and transformation. Joined by her husband, physician Dr. Marc Evanko, the two share how their own neurodivergence—autism and ADHD—shaped Wilder Wood Equine Therapy, a prog…
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Resilience, Mules & Pediatric Wisdom: Dr. Mark Uranga on Community, Horses & Healing | EP 36
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1:58:06Episode Title: Guest Introduction: (If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome) “Being attuned to hesitation is what allows for finding the next step.” – Dr. Mark Uranga In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson is joined by Dr. Mark Uranga, a pediatrician from Boise, Idaho, with …
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Healing Horses, Healing Humans: Dr. Janet Varhus on Ulcers, Posture & Equine Well-Being | EP 35
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2:03:57In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Janet Varhus, DVM—a veterinarian whose decades of practice bridge old-school horsemanship, holistic care, and cutting-edge therapies like acupuncture, fascia release, and low-level laser treatment. From endurance riding roots to working alongside Linda Tellington-Jones, Dr…
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Let Them Work: Temple Grandin on Real Healing for Autism & Anxiety | Ep 34 Equine Assisted World
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1:44:55In this essential episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Temple Grandin, one of the world’s most influential voices on autism, sensory processing, and practical approaches to learning and healing. Together, they explore how therapeutic riding centers can do more than just offer horse time—they can create whole environm…
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Building a Culture of Equine Well-Being – With Melissa Connor of Renew TRC | Ep 33 Equine Assisted World
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1:48:32In this inspiring episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Melissa Connor, Executive Director of Renew Therapeutic Riding Center in Holland, Michigan. Recorded just weeks after Rupert visited the center, this conversation highlights what it takes to create a truly horse-centered therapeutic program—where equine well-being is…
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Misery Is Optional – Redefining Softness, Structure & Anxiety with Mark Rashid & Crissi McDonald | Ep 32 Equine Assisted World
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2:00:27In this thought-provoking follow-up episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson reunites with legendary horseman Mark Rashid and clinician-author Crissi McDonald. This time, the conversation shifts deeper into the internal landscapes of both horse and human, exploring what it really means to be soft—without losing structure. From navigating l…
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Softness, Safety, and the Horse-Human Connection with Mark Rashid & Crissi McDonald | Ep 31
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2:06:08In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson welcomes renowned horseman Mark Rashid and equine clinician and author Crissi McDonald. Broadcasting from their home in Estes Park, Colorado, this inspiring duo shares how softness, internal awareness, and individual connection form the core of their horsemanship and life philosophy. From Ai…
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One Acre Wonders – Outdoor Schooling, Autism Support, and Equine Wisdom with Catherine Ward & Nicole Jones | Ep 30 Equine Assisted World
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2:04:51In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Catherine Ward and her daughter Nicole Jones of One Acre Farm in Texas. Together, they’ve built a thriving outdoor farm school and equine-assisted program on just a single acre—proving that miracles don’t require massive land, just massive heart. From backyard chickens to neurodi…
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Healing in the Herd – Military Recovery, Youth Empowerment, and Equine Wisdom with HorseBack UK | Ep 29 Equine Assisted World
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2:07:06In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Emma Hutchinson and Jay Hare of HorseBack UK, a groundbreaking charity based in the Scottish Highlands. Originally developed to support military veterans recovering from physical and emotional trauma, HorseBack UK now works across diverse populations including at-risk youth and r…
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Your Brain, Your Way: Curiosity, Neurodiversity, and Healing with Dr. Chantel Prat | EP 28 Equine Assisted World
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1:39:14In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Chantel Prat—a neuroscientist, psychologist, linguist, and horsewoman. Dr. Prat teaches at the University of Washington and is the author of The Neuroscience of You, a groundbreaking book that examines how every brain is different and what that means for our lives, relatio…
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Beyond Crime: Healing Trauma, Restoring Humanity with Leana Tank | Ep 27 Equine Assisted World
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2:21:04In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Leana Tank, an occupational therapist from Grand Rapids, Michigan, and an accomplished horsewoman specializing in equine-assisted services and behavioral health. Leana works with individuals at the extreme end of the mental health continuum—people coming from psychiatric hospi…
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Healing Hidden Wounds and Trauma in Northern Ireland through Equine Assisted Services with Dr. Helen Sharp | EP 26 Equine Assisted World
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1:44:18In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Dr. Helen Sharp, an equine journalist, academic, and co-founder of Groundwork EAS—an equine-assisted charity on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. A leading voice in both equine media and trauma-informed equine work, Dr. Sharp brings a unique blen…
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Dr. Megan McGavern on Reclaiming Hope, Creating Saving Her Son, and Changing Medicine from Within | Ep 25
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2:02:28In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson speaks with Dr. Megan McGavern, a board-certified physician in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. Megan shares the powerful story behind the founding of C.H.A.T.S.—Creative, Holistic, Adaptive, Therapeutic Solutions—and how it was born out of both professional insight and personal necessi…
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Warwick Schiller on Attunement, Connection, and Trust in Horsemanship | EP 24 Equine Assisted World
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1:56:48In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Warwick Schiller, renowned horseman and creator of Attuned Horsemanship. Warwick is widely recognized for his transformative approach to horse training, which focuses on attunement, connection, and creating a sense of safety for the horse. Through his Journey On Podcast and ex…
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Mary Wanless on Rider Biomechanics, Flow, and Feel | Equine Assisted World EP 23
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2:00:30In this episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with Mary Wanless, a pioneer in the field of rider biomechanics. For decades, Mary has been at the forefront of reshaping how we understand equestrian training by focusing on the physics and physiology of riding. With a background in physics and a deep curiosity about what truly ma…
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Exploring TTouch with Robyn Hood: Connection, Communication, and Equine Well-being | Ep 22 Equine Assisted World
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2:08:08Robyn Hood, sister of Linda Tellington-Jones and a leading figure in the development of the Tellington TTouch Method, joins Rupert Isaacson in this insightful episode. Robyn has dedicated her life to refining and teaching TTouch, a revolutionary approach to working with horses, dogs, and other animals that fosters trust, connection, and healing. In…
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Exploring Equine Balance with Shea Stewart: Mitochondria, Quantum Biology, and Equine Well-being | Ep 21 Equine Assisted World
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2:21:52Shea Stewart, renowned craniosacral therapist and founder of Equine Balance (https://www.equinebalance.net), joins Rupert Isaacson in this enlightening episode to explore the intersections of quantum biology, mitochondrial health, and equine-assisted practices. With a wealth of knowledge in human and equine well-being, Shea unpacks the impact of na…
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Healing Through Horses and Nature with Norunn Kogstad: Psychotherapy, Equine Welfare, and the Joy of Belonging | Ep 20 Equine Assisted World
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1:43:36Norunn Kogstad, a Norwegian psychotherapist and psychiatrist, is the visionary behind Lundehagen, a therapeutic center that blends psychotherapy, equine-assisted therapy, and exceptional horse welfare practices. With decades of experience and a deep passion for human and equine well-being, Norunn has created a sanctuary where healing, connection, a…
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Ep 19: Kim Barthel - Relationship Matters
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2:12:39Healing Through Connection with Kim Barthel: Neuroscience, Safety, and the Power of Relationships Kim Barthel is an award-winning occupational therapist, international speaker, and bestselling author whose work integrates neuroscience, trauma therapy, and relational healing. With over 40 years of experience, she specializes in supporting individual…
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Ep 18: Linda Tellington Jones - Tellington TTouch
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2:03:36Linda Tellington-Jones, a pioneer in equine welfare and therapeutic riding, is best known for the Tellington TTouch Method. A globally celebrated horsewoman, author, and teacher, Linda has spent decades redefining equine care, integrating holistic techniques that enhance horse and rider communication. Her unique methods, which blend science, compas…
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Ep 17: Alex Northover - Making Momentum
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1:45:14Empowering Education and Healing Through Horses with Alex Northover Alex Northover is the director of Making Momentum CIC, a community interest company in Cheshire, UK, that provides alternative education and therapeutic services for children and young people. With a background as a science teacher and extensive experience in equine-assisted method…
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EAW 16 Christine Dickson - On The Path Coaching
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2:15:48Transforming Lives with Christine Dickson: Trauma, Trust, and the Wisdom of Horses Christine Dickson is an international speaker, mentor, clinical hypnotherapist, IEMT Advanced Practitioner, and Equine Coach who helps people let go of negative past memories and build a creative and connected life of purpose and abundance. Her clients describe the w…
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Ep 15: Sheryl Barto - Smiling Goat Ranch
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1:39:29From PR to Horses: The Story of Smiling Goat Ranch with Sheryl Barto In this transformative episode of Equine Assisted World, Rupert Isaacson sits down with the remarkable Sheryl Barto, founder of Smiling Goat Ranch in Carbondale, Colorado. Sheryl shares her deeply personal and inspiring journey, shaped by her son James, who is on the autism spectr…
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Ep14 Ellie Williams Equi Team PA, USA
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1:39:35Many of us are familiar with the term "trauma informed' but Ellie Williams - a British therapist and horsewoman whose Equiteam practice is based in York, Pennsylvania, has accrued more than two decades experience of work in the field. With her tight knit team, she has been pioneering the field of equine assisted psychotherapy since before most of u…
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Ep 13: Jane Faulkner - Equine Assisted Therapy Australia
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2:06:45Jane Faulkner is a household name, at least in Equine Assisted circles, down in Australia. And with good reason. Like many people who have come to the Equine Assisted world from an originally non horsy background, she has brought a therapist's perspective to our often overly horse-focussed field. Equine Assisted Therapy, Australia - Jane's organiza…
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Ep 12: Warwick Schiller - Attuned Horsemanship & Journey On Podcast Summit
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1:44:02The Journey On Podcast and Summits have become something of a legend in conscious equestrian circles - and rightly so. Anyone who has tuned in to the vast array of talent that Warwick features in his in depth interviews ends up walking away with insights into themselves as well as into horses and how they interact with and assist humans, both in th…
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Ep 11: Dr. Ann Hemingway & Kezia Sullivan - Bournemouth University
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2:13:44Most of us in the equine assisted field are familiar with encountering skepticism - the inevitable "aren't you just giving kids pony rides?" attitude that can sometimes stand in the way of the field and its practitioners getting the recognition and therefore funding they deserve. Fortunately, in recent years there has been a massive uptick in the p…
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Ep 10: Nina Ekholm Fry - Denver University
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1:33:45If you are in the Equine Assisted World and you have not yet hear of the Institute for Human and Animal Connection at Denver University, then you should. The institute - one of the first to really get academics behind the work we all do with horses and people (and not just horses) paved the way for real careers in the field, and through its researc…
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Linda Kohanov is a legend. A household name in the horse world and also for many of those interested in shamanism and myth, her bestselling books The Tao of Equus Riding Between The Worlds, Way of the Horse, The Power of the Herd and The Five Roles of a Master Herder have established her as a go to as a reference for the spiritual side of the horse…
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Ep 8: Lynn Thomas - Arenas of Change & Horses for Mental Health
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2:58:05Anyone in the Equine Assisted World had heard of the legendary EAGALA program - perhaps the first organization to really bring the field out of the realm of purely therapeutic or adaptive raiding and into the realm of the neuro-psychiatric, at least on a level outside certain isolated mental health institutions. What many in the Equine Assisted fie…
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EAW 7: Carola Beekman - Maheo Equine Assisted Learning
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1:49:38That the Netherlands is a forward thinking country we can all agree – especially when it comes to matters of social welfare. Given that the country also helped give the world things that give great pleasure - like coffee, tulips, the Stock Exchange, New Amsterdam (New York City), not to mention liquorice, gouda cheese and gin (alright, there might …
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Ep 6: Shea Stewart - Equine Craniosacral, TX
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2:13:55In our world of Equine Assisted best practices, the subject of horse wellness and horse welfare is paramount. It stands to reason that for a horse to be able to transmit wellbeing to a human, then that horse must have wellbeing itself both in its body and in its mind. Too often we have seen old, often injured horses donated to therapeutic programs …
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Ep5: Dr. Stephen Peters, Psy.D., ABN, Equine Neuroscientist - CO, USA
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2:15:39It’s not often that you get to chat with a neuroscientist. Still less often to chat with a neuroscientist that is also a doctor. Still less often to chat with a neuroscientist that is a doctor and also autistic. And less often still to chat with a neuroscientist who is also a doctor and also autistic and also a horseman. Finally, it’s about a chanc…
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Ep4: Dr. Rebecca Bailey - Equine Polyvagal Institute - CA, USA
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2:05:52Many of you have probably heard of Polyvagal Theory; it’s a bit of a buzzword these days in the mental health community. But what is it exactly? And how does it relate to equine work? Well, who better to explain it to us than Dr Rebecca Bailey, co-founder of the Equine Polyvagal Institute in California. Dr Bailey, a longtime family therapist and al…
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EP3: Terri Brosnan - Childvision - Dublin, IRE
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1:51:23Equine Assisted World was partly inspired by the work of an (until now) unsung heroine Terri Brosnan, of ChildVision in Dublin, Ireland. Coming into the field of therapeutic horsemanship later in life, after a three-pronged parallel career in sport horses, construction, and IT, Terri quickly noted the factionalism and rivalry within the world of Eq…
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EP2: Joy O'Neal - The Red Barn - AL, USA
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1:31:40Sometimes the cutting edge is not where you expect to find it. Way down in Birmingham, Alabama Joy O’Neal’s Red Barn has quietly been creating technology to address the potent mix of neuro-psychiatric, emotional and physical challenges faced by children and families caught up in the foster care system. We use the word technology deliberately here –…
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Ep1: Joell Dunlap - Square Peg Foundation - CA, USA
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2:18:50Joell Dunlap runs Square Peg Foundation one of the most successful and pioneering equine assisted programs in North America. Starting with a simple idea: how could the quirky kids find a place in the world of riding as a sport when the world of dressage and hunter jumper barns can be so judgemental and unforgiving. She fell into creating programs f…
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Pilot Podcast - Equine Assisted World with Rupert Isaacson
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15:56In this the Pilot Episode of Equine Assisted World, our host Rupert Isaacson - known for Horse Boy Method, Movement Method and ATHENA - takes us through how the world of equine therapies has transformed itself in the last two decades from something aimed primarily at physical disability and adaptive riding, to the current mosaic of approaches for n…
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S2 Ep6: Finding Our Way with Every Body Outdoors - Big bodies, good kit and community
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1:14:34In this one we sit down with Steph Wetherell, co-founder of Every Body Outdoors, a group campaigning for better representation, clothing and gear for larger and plus-sized bodies in the UK outdoors. We talk about sizest attitudes, why seeing plus size people represented by brands and media is so important, and how clothes and kit can be more inclus…
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S2 Ep5: Finding Our Way with Anoushé Husain – Paraclimbing, pain and the possible
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1:04:10In this one we sit down with international paraclimber Anoushé Husain. She co-founded the group Paraclimbing London, competes internationally for the Luxembourg team, and recently became a Guinness World Record holder for the furthest distance climbed one-handed in one hour. She’s also a celebrated public speaker, an ambassador for Ehlers-Danlos Su…
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S2 Ep4: Finding Our Way with Richard Chapman - Grief and healing through climbing
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50:27Content information: In this episode, Richard talks about his young son dying from cancer, and the impact of that traumatic experience on his mental health. He also describes how climbing has helped him recover and manage PTSD. Child Bereavement UK provides support for children, parents and families dealing with bereavement. They have a helpline 08…
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S2 Ep3: Finding Our Way with United We Climb (ft Marie Uri and Yasmin Lazarus) – Climbing Walls and Checking Privilege
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1:02:38In this one we sit down with climbers Marie Uri and Yasmin Lazarus from United We Climb. Their group is committed to creating new opportunities and experiences designed specifically for – and with – people who are currently underserved and underrepresented in climbing and the outdoors. This includes paraclimbers, neurodiverse people and people of c…
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S2 Ep2: Finding Our Way with Dwayne Fields - Young People, Urban Britain and Nature Connection
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56:23In this one we sit down with National Geographic explorer Dwayne Fields to talk about giving young people chance to shine, helping urban communities connect with the wild, advice for allies and how to respect the outdoors. Growing up in Jamaica and the traumatic transition to life in London How Scouts gave him freedom to be himself Training in UK m…
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S2 Ep1: Leo Houlding and Ed Jackson: Quadriplegia, Alps and Ambition
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55:57In this one we sit down with legendary adventure climber Leo Houlding and adaptive adventurer Ed Jackson – both Berghaus ambassadors - to talk wild places and wild people, rebuilding your life after spinal cord injury and the wonderstuff of climbing with new friends. The impact of Ed’s spinal cord injuries and how he got into climbing mountains Mot…
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S1 Ep6: Finding Our Way with Stu Skinner – Deserts, jungles and mental health training
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47:46In this one we explore the stigma of mental illness, what exactly Mental Health First Aid is, and the importance of expedition leaders who can support mental health as well as deal with broken legs and snake bites. Stu Skinner is an experienced expedition leader, mental health first aid provider and the founder of the charity Changing Horizons. He …
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S1 Ep5: Finding Our Way with Cherelle Harding – Urban community, reggae and rolling down hills
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37:35In this one we get some good views and good vibes with founder of outdoor network Steppers UK, Cherelle Harding. We hear how the music of Bob Marley brought her a new appreciation of nature, why outdoor upskilling is key to making change stick, and what needs to be done to improve nature connection in urban areas. Cherelle is the founder of Stepper…
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S1 Ep4: Finding Our Way with Rob Mitchell – Cake, maps, and gay, bi- & trans lads outdoors
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40:53In this one we talk about how to make clubs more inclusive, the joy of maps, getting qualified as an outdoor leader and how a supportive community with common interests can build confidence, skills and a lifetime of outdoor connection. Rob Mitchell is a mountain leader for Outdoor Lads, a UK-wide community who run a range of sociable outdoor activi…
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S1 Ep3: Finding Our Way with Bonita Norris – Everest, ethics and disordered eating
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50:23In this one we head to the high mountains to discuss the Death Zone, climbing – and falling – on Everest, attempting K2, inspiring non-climbers, and the pressure and dangers of dropping weight to climb harder. Bonita Norris has summited three of the world's 8000m peaks and retains the record as the youngest British woman to climb both Everest and r…
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S1 Ep1: Finding Our Way with Rehna Yaseen – Free kit, ‘BAME’ and inspiring young South Asians
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40:00In this one we talk about the importance of decent kit, being paid to do cool stuff, the problem with the term ‘BAME’ and why building relationships with the whole community matters with outdoor instructor and community mentor Rehna Yaseen. She discovered a passion for outdoor activities in her teens and now helps other young people find their own …
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S1 Ep2: Finding Our Way with Euan Ryan – Making films, climbing and hidden disabilities
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53:49In this one we sit down with Glasgow-based photographer and filmmaker Euan Ryan to talk getting hit by rocks, why climbing is a strange sport full of brilliant people, mental health journeys, chronic illness, hidden disabilities and the taboo of ‘poo issues’. Euan has documented para-climbers on the Eiger, climbing with autism, and the mental heali…
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