Leading people in any capacity is hard, but it can be even more difficult when you lead with your heart. Whether you’re growing a business, managing your home, or leading the Church, how do you achieve success without losing yourself in the process? It seems many leaders get hard-hearted and lose a sense of empathy while others don’t make it for the long haul because their hearts get crushed. Is there a way to be strong as a leader but do it with heart? Kevin Herrin shows us how on Leading t ...
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A quest to find a more authentic and loving expression of the Christian faith Christianity is known for a lot of things these days. Labeled as intolerant or hateful, the true heart of the Christian faith has been buried underneath an onslaught of bad attention and bad press. We’ve failed our brand.In John 13, Jesus gave us the brand—radical love. In The Rebranding Christianity Podcast, Pastor Jeff Jones and professional marketer Mike Hogan combine their experience to provide a fresh new pers ...
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Are you listening on your phone right now? Same here. Tech and screens are everywhere, and we all know that they have impacted our ability to connect with the people right in front of us. In this episode, we talk with Joey Odom about how to detox from tech in a way that actually makes our lives more fun and fulfilling, the spiritual side of screens…
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It’s been said that you don’t really have a relationship or a team until you can have the difficult conversations in the proper spirit and then continue to walk together. Join Kevin as he digs into the book, Crucial Conversations.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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CONVICTED! The Importance of Having Conviction in Leadership and How to Get It!
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32:32We make mistakes as leaders. But they do not disqualify us from our calling. The Holy Spirit was sent to help us recover and walk strong as heart leaders.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Making Church Irresistible – With Justin Elam
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51:13Why do so many churches share the same mission—to make disciples—but approach it in ways that often fail to connect with those outside their walls? In this episode, we talk with Justin Elam, Director of the Irresistible Church Network, about what it means to design churches with outsiders in mind. He shares how the Network equips churches to create…
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Many leaders are afraid of the word “meek.” They fear it equates to being weak. Why is a meek leader the strongest kind? Join Kevin as he talks with US Marine and Pastor, Bo Kilgore, about true strength in heart leadership.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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What is a Christian Anyway?– with Glenn Packiam
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34:05The core of Christianity is surprisingly simple. Or is it? Glenn Packiam helps us think about what is core to the faith by exploring ancient creeds. On this episode, we talk about how disorienting faith in this culture can feel, and the ancient tools that can help us get oriented towards Jesus again.…
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Does Christ call us to be serpents or doves? Why would He pair those paradoxical figures together and call us to embrace both leadership styles? Join Kevin as he digs into Christ’s paradoxical power.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Leaving The Church, Looking For Christ – with Scot McKnight + Tommy Preston Phillips
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53:31Deconstruction has increased in recent years. But what does that actually mean? Scot McKnight and Tommy Preston Phillips help us think about deconstruction and how to navigate it in our own lives, circles, and communities.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Awkward. What do we do with the taboo questions and situations that surround us? Ignore them and hope they go away, right? Okay, maybe not. We’re talking to Mike Novotny about the most taboo topics Christians need to think about and wrestle with to love people well. Today, we’re talking about gender dysphoria, the gay community and church, and our …
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A locus is a strong center. The locus of the Church is the Gospel but the locus of leadership must be the Church. Join Kevin as he stresses how heart leaders are the hope of society.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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2024 Presidential Election - with Abby McCloskey
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38:34Ahhh. Post election peace. Just kidding! Today, we're talking to Abby McCloskey, a writer and thinker about American politics. We talk about before and after the election, double listening, and how politics isn't like Vegas (but how Christians often treat it like it is).By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Friendship in an Age of Unfriending - With Bryan Loritts
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31:29Christianity is inherently relational. So it's important we get this part of life right. We're talking to Dr. Bryan Loritts about deep friendship, why your calendaring habits matter so much, and the bigget friendship killers we all face. For more information visit: https://bryanloritts.com/By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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It seemed like there was a new headline every week about the latest high-profile church leaders' moral failings. A lot of these were centered in DFW, which happens to be the same area where the Rebranding Christianity team lives and works. In this podcast, we talk about what we can learn from pastoral failings and abuse, celebrity church culture, a…
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Ep.29 Politics and Christians Behaving Badly Publish Date: October 8, 2024 Rebranding Christianity was in part written because of the Evangelical Christian response to the 2020 election. Fast forward 4 years and in a new election season, what's changed and what's still the same? How can we all reflect the heart of Jesus a little better in a content…
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Safe Churches, Grace, and the End Times - with Max Lucado
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34:01Ep.28 Safe Churches, Grace, and the End Times Guest: Max Lucado Publish Date: September 17, 2024 https://maxlucado.com/ Max Lucado knows a thing or two about Jesus-style love. In this episode of Rebranding Christianity, we sit down with Max Lucado to talk about risky messages in safe churches, the Christian brand of grace, and how thinking about th…
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How to Find Happiness in Leadership [Part 2]
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55:03We strive for success in leadership. We push hard to reach goals and develop people along the way. But can we really expect to be happy as well? Jesus said, “Yes!” Join Kevin as he interviews best-selling author, Mike Hayes, in this Part 2 episode about happiness in leadership.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Who Are the 40 Million Dechurched? - with Michael Graham
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58:34Ep.27 Who Are the 40 Million Dechurched? Guest: Michael Graham Publish Date: August 20, 2024 https://dechurching.com/ You may have heard the stats. 40 million have "dechurched" in the last few decades. This isn't a small problem, and it's not abstract- many of those 40 million are our own friends and family. Today, we're hearing from Michael Graham…
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Cultivating Welcoming Churches - with Shane Stanford
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43:12Ep.26 Cultivating Welcoming Churches - with Shane Stanford Guest: Shane Stanford Publish Date: August 20, 2024 https://shanestanford.com/ When Shane Stanford was told he had HIV due to a contaminated blood tranfusion, his mom told him the last people he could share that with were his friends at church. We're learning from his journey of church plan…
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Know The Truth, Make It Beautiful - with Carmen Laberge
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42:50Ep. 25 Know The Truth, Make It Beautiful - with Carmen Laberge Guest: Carmen Laberge Publish Date: August 6, 2024 https://carmenlaberge.com/ The love and truth of Jesus continues to surprise us, 2000 years later. What can we learn from that suprising, refreshing reality and how does that change the way we interact with culture? Today, we're talking…
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Ep.24: Faith in Silicon Valley - with Rusty Rueff
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54:50Ep. 25 Faith in Silicon Valley - with Rusty Rueff Guest: Rusty Rueff Publish Date: July 16 Hosts: Mike Hogan, Jeff Jones, Eric Torrence, Darby DeBusk https://thefaithcode.com/ What does it look like to have vibrant faith in a tech-forward environment? It might be different than what you think. Rusty Rueff, the host of the Faith Driven Entrepreneur …
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Ep.23: Neighborliness, Bias, and Disparity – with David Docusen
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55:25Ep. 23 Neighborliness, Bias, and Disparity – With David Docusen Guest: David Docusen Publish date: July 2 Hosts: Jeff Jones, Mike Hogan, Eric Torrence, Darby DeBusk https://daviddocusen.com/ Bias, reconciliation, and inclusion may be trigger words for some, but they are key gospel concepts that are important to getting back to the heart of Jesus’ m…
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How to Find Happiness in Leadership
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1:07:30We strive for success in leadership. We push hard to reach goals and develop people along the way. But can we really expect to be happy along the way? Jesus said, “Yes!” Join Kevin as he interviews best-selling author, Dr. Jeffrey Garner, about happiness in leadership.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Ep. 22: Jesus Doesn’t Need a Lawyer – with Bob Goff
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43:04Ep. 23 Jesus Doesn’t Need a Lawyer – With Bob Goff Guest: Bob Goff Publish date: June 19, 2024 Hosts: Jeff Jones, Eric Torrence, Darby DeBusk https://www.bobgoff.com Is the American church distracted? We think yes. If you’ve listened to Rebranding Christianity before, you know that we think the church is distracted towards a brand of faith that is …
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Ep.21: The Peace of God in the World We Live In – with Brant Hansen
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19:35Ep. 21 The Peace of God in the World We Live In – with Brant Hansen Publish date: May 21, 2024 Host: Greg Holmes Guest: Brant Hansen Maybe the reason Evangelical Christians appear angry is because we ARE angry. Maybe The reason we come across as controlling or combative culture warriors is because we are anxious and fearful of what we see happening…
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Ep.20: Restore the Table – with Ryan Rush
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23:25Ep. 20: Restore the Table – with Ryan Rush Publish date: May 7, 2024 Host: Greg Holmes Guest: Ryan Rush What if way to strengthen bonds and bridge divides is something we are already doing every day? Today, we’re talking with Ryan Rush, author of “Restore the Table: Discover the Powerful Connections of Meaningful Mealtimes” about the power of a sha…
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Ep. 19: Thinking Deeply About the Cross with Brian Zahnd
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32:22Ep. 19: Thinking Deeply About the Cross With Brian Zahnd Publish date: April 16, 2024 Host: Greg Holmes Guest: Brian Zahndhttps://brianzahnd.com Theology can be dry and academic, but it can also be mysterious and deeply moving. The way we as Christians think about the cross can affect how we interact with the world and love the people around us. In…
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Ep. 18: Gracious Orthodoxy With Bruce Miller
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41:17Ep. 18: Gracious Orthodoxy With Bruce Miller Publish Date: April 3, 2024 Hosts: Jeff Jones, Greg Holmes, and Mike Hogan Guest: Bruce Miller https://www.brucebmiller.com/ “But what about TRUTH?” Is it true that when we focus on the radical love of Jesus, truth goes by the wayside? Join us as we hear from Bruce Miller, a theologian and pastor who has…
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The only way to successfully put together a 2000-piece jigsaw puzzle is to dig into the little pieces and begin to study them. But the only way to know how to put them together is to continue to look at the big picture. As important as the little pieces are, their reason for existing is to create a big picture. Join Kevin this month as he digs into…
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Ep. 17: Is the word “Evangelical” even helpful anymore? – with Brad Smith
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35:16Ep. 17: Is the word “Evangelical” even helpful anymore? – with Brad Smith Publish date: March 19, 2024 Hosts: Jeff Jones, Greg Holmes, Cindy Park, Mike Hogan Guest: Brad Smith https://bgu.edu/people/brad-smith What does the word “Evangelical” mean? That is a difficult question to answer. Officially, “Evangelical” has a rich and profound theological…
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Ep. 16: A New Testament Scholar Considers the Future – with Dr. Darrel Bock
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29:32Ep. 16: A New Testament Scholar Considers the Future – with Dr. Darrel Bock Publish Date: March 5, 2024 Hosts: Jeff Jones, Greg Holmes, Cindy Park, Mike Hogan Guest: Dr. Darrel Bock https://www.dts.edu/employee/darrell-bock/ What does the Bible have to say about current attempts by Christians to change culture through legislation? If the church has…
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Leadership in a diverse community necessitates a push beyond boundaries of understanding. It takes the heart of Christ be a heart leader in this environment. Join Kevin as he interviews Alvin Richardson about this amazing, variegated family of God.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Ep. 15: A New Testament Scholar Weighs In With Dr. Darrel Bock
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39:23Ep. 15: A New Testament Scholar Weighs In With Dr. Darrel Bock Publish Date: February 20, 2024 Hosts: Jeff Jones and Greg Holmes Guest: Dr. Darrel Bock https://www.dts.edu/employee/darrell-bock/ How does a New Testament scholar feel about the current state of Christianity in America? Join us as hear from Dr. Darrel Bock, one of the most well-respec…
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Ep. 14: How Are They Right? With Dwight Jewson
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39:48Ep. 14 How Are They Right? With Dwight Jewson Publish Date: February 6, 2024 Host: Jeff Jones Guest: Dwight Jewson https://www.act3holdings.com/dwight-jewson This is the second half of a conversation with branding and marketing expert, Dwight Jewson. Along with helping some of the largest brands in the world, Dwight has also worked on numerous high…
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An IED is an improvised explosive device so named because no two are alike. In leadership, members of our teams are NOT the same and we must lead on a sliding scale. It can be difficult. Here are some principles of building a team that keep it more consistent. Join Kevin for the IED’s of Leadership.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Ep 13: The Secret Sauce With Dwight Jewson
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36:49Ep 13: The Secret Sauce With Dwight Jewson Publish Date: January 16, 2024 Host: Jeff Jones Co-Host: Greg Holmes, Cindy Park, and Mike Hogan Guest: Dwight Jewson https://www.act3holdings.com/dwight-jewson This is part one of a two-part conversation with Dwight Jewson. As one of the top branding and marketing experts in the country the list of compan…
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Divine Disruptions: Learning to Trust God When Things Seem to Go Wrong
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29:13We make plans. Many of them get disrupted. Some are minor while others are major and painful. While Joseph, the earthly father of Christ, had more than his share, they were not random, but actually a fulfillment of prophecy. What may seem like a haphazard inconvenience to you could be God getting you back on track to receive your next breakthrough.…
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Publish Date: December 12, 2023 A lot happened in 2023 and there are some exciting things to come with Rebranding Christianity. But as we approach Christmas and a brand new year, lets pause and consider how a fresh perspective on who Jesus is, what he came to bring, and who he calls us to be might affect how we celebrate the holiday season.…
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Everyone has an attitude. Might as well pick a good one! To lead with Christ’s heart means to lead with His attitude. In the face of every negative situation, Jesus found a way to infuse Heaven’s outlook. Join Kevin to explore a powerful leader’s proper attitude.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Divinely Aligned - Bringing Heaven into Your Leadership
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24:53Many leaders don’t believe in or talk to God. The few who do pray and petition only to walk away speaking negatively about their situations thereby moving in misalignment with the prayer they just prayed. Whether you’re talking wheels, plumbing, or words we speak, alignment is everything.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Publish Date: October 24, 2023 Didn’t Jesus himself say that we would be hated and that we shouldn’t feel surprised when the world hates us? If so, then why should we care how we are perceived? Jesus himself dealt with this issue and so did the early church. We can learn a lot from their examples.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Publish Date: October 17, 2023 What is a brand ambassador and what does it look like to be a good brand ambassador for a “Jesus brand” of Christianity? Sometimes it involves what we say. It always involves how we say it. Tone matter. A lot.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Publish Date: October 10, 2023 As Christian communities work to move the needle back toward a more “Jesus brand” of loving and gracious Christianity, what are some practical steps we can take? A couple of obvious answers might be “do good in the community” and “be welcoming to all”. But these are not obvious answers, and they can be quite tricky to…
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Publish Date: October 23, 2023 The work of Jesus breaks down the barriers between us and God and also between us and each other. These natural barriers of race, ethnicity, gender, and socio-economic factors work to keep us divided. One of the most compelling arguments for Christianity is the development of an inclusive and diverse community that de…
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Finding Peace in the Storms of Leadership
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17:58Many have given up on the notion of peace, treating it as an unachievable reality. But not only does God want you to have it, you cannot lead like Jesus unless you possess it within your own soul. Join Kevin for the secrets to this inner peace in leadership.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Publish Date: September 26, 2023 As America transitions into a post-Christian era, the church increasingly finds itself on the outside looking in. Younger generations who will lead our culture in the future have made it quite clear how they feel about current American Christianity. How should Christians respond when culture moves away from traditio…
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Publish Date: September 19, 2023 Public perceptions of Christianity were trending in the wrong direction well before COVID-19, but there was something about the pandemic years that caused a rapid decline. What was it? Did COVID change Christianity in America, or did it reveal unattractive qualities that were already there, but hidden?…
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Publish Date: September 12, 2023 As we have discussed already in the Rebranding Christianity podcast, brands provide a short-hand understanding of what a product or person or movement is all about. When we think of a certain brand what we are actually thinking about are the products, promises, and values that we associate with that brand. So, when …
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Publish Date: September 5, 2023 When we think about what the “brand” of Christianity is supposed to be, the good news is, we don’t have to guess. Jesus gave us the brand. He was quite clear about it too. He said, I want for your reputation to be.. this. When people think of you, he said, they should think of.. this. We will talk about what “this” i…
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To be a heart leader, there must be character. To get character, there must be process. We process into character. Join Kevin this episode as he helps us see the beautiful side of painful process.By Dunham+Company Podcast Network
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Publish Date: August 29, 2023 Is it okay to call Christianity a brand? Is that helpful or disrespectful? Are concepts such as “brand promise” and “net promoter score” useful as we seek to understand the perceptions people have toward Christianity in America? We interact with brands every day. The more we can understand the psychology behind our rel…
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