Are you a therapist or helper that likes to think deeply and creatively about ways to build trust with our bodies in and out of the therapy office? Do you want to overcome disordered relationships to food so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk – your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapist podcast where we talk ...
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Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore for Therapists and Helpers (Season 5 Finale)
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33:57Episode 151: Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore for Therapists and Helpers (Season 5 Finale) ✨ Free Resource: Uncover Your Zone of Genius Feeling stuck or burned out? Consider this your permission slip to come alive again. Grab my free Zone of Genius guide here: https://pages.drshawnhondorp.com/zone What if your burnout is actually a signal that…
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Finding Community, Healing Together, and Living in Alignment
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35:09Episode 150: Finding Community, Healing Together, and Living in Alignment with Randi Rubenstein What does it mean to find real community in a world that often feels disconnected? In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I sat down with Randi Rubenstein for the final conversation in our three-part series on Creativity, Entrepreneurship, …
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Creative Writing as Healing, Play, and Power with Michelle Ringle and Alyssa Jewell
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32:40Episode 150: Writing, Play, and the Power of Creative Connection with Michelle Ringle & Alyssa Jewell Have you ever felt the quiet nudge to write something down, even if just for yourself? In this heartwarming and deeply thoughtful episode, I sit down with two gifted educators and writers, Michelle Ringle and Alyssa Jewell, to explore the transform…
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Recipes That Heal—Creativity, Courage, & Community Care with Elisa Pérez-Arellano, LMSW
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56:16Episode 148: Recipes That Heal—Creativity, Courage, & Community Care with Elisa Pérez-Arellano, LMSW What does it take to turn pain into purpose—and how can creativity, food, and cultural traditions transform how we approach mental health? In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of talking with Elisa Pérez-A…
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Redefining Success, Healing Through Business, and Sustainable Online Growth with Melvin Varghese, PhD
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51:19Episode 147: Redefining Success, Healing Through Business, and Sustainable Online Growth with Melvin Varghese, PhD What if your business could be a source of healing—not just hustle? In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the joy of talking with Dr. Melvin Varghese—licensed psychologist, host of the Selling the Couch podcast, an…
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From Actor to Therapist—Reclaiming Identity & Embracing Self-Energy with Adeshola Nnamdi, LMFT
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1:04:46Episode 146: From Actor to Therapist—Reclaiming Identity & Embracing Self-Energy with Adeshola Nnamdi, LMFT What does it look like to live with deep intention—and how can our past lives, creativity, and cultural roots shape the therapists we become? In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of talking with Ade…
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Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore—for Therapists, Helpers, and Healers
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38:21Episode 145: Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore—for Therapists, Helpers, and Healers Have you ever felt stuck in your work? Like you’re helping others but losing connection with yourself? You’re not alone. Many therapists, psychologists, and helpers reach a point where something feels off. You love helping people. But deep down, you want somethi…
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Finding Your Zone of Genius Through Culturally Immersive Travel with Kelsey Wilson & Amanda Cisneros
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26:01Episode 144: Finding Your Zone of Genius Through Culturally Immersive Travel with Kelsey Wilson & Amanda Cisneros Have you ever dreamed of experiencing travel in a way that fully immerses you in another culture—where you’re not just a visitor, but an active participant in the local community? That’s exactly what Kelsey Wilson and Amanda Cisneros ha…
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Embodiment, Healing, and Community with Jen Bullen
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57:14Episode 143: Embodiment, Healing, and Community with Jen Bullen Introduction Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Jen Bullen, an embodiment and somatic healing coach, body image whisperer, and diet culture rebel. Jen and I met in a truly serendipitous way—at my first retreat in October, when I n…
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Empowering Your Financial Future: A Conversation with Laura Corbiani
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34:45Episode 142. Empowering Your Financial Future: A Conversation with Laura Corbiani Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! Today, we’re diving into part two of my conversation with financial expert Laura Corbiani. If you missed part one, be sure to check it out, as we covered essential topics like money, power, and common mindset blocks ar…
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Money, Power & The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Laura Corbiani
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32:59Episode 141: Money, Power & The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Laura CorbianiMoney. Power. Self-worth.For so many of us—especially women—these words feel loaded. We’ve absorbed messages about money from a young age, often without realizing it. Some of us were taught that talking about money is rude or greedy. Others internalized the belief that wan…
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Leadership, Self Energy, & the Internal Family Systems Model with Rachel Bentley
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1:15:12Episode 140: Leadership, Self Energy, & the Internal Family Systems Model with Rachel BentleyAs therapists, business owners, and leaders, we often feel pressure to have all the answers. But what if the most impactful leadership doesn’t come from perfection—but from embracing our humanity and ongoing growth?That’s exactly what I explored in my conve…
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Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You Want
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1:11:31Episode 139: Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You WantIn this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, Randi Rubenstein returns to dive deeper into the concept of Pack Leadership while exploring how creativity and play can transform our lives. We discuss the importance of leaning into your Zone of Genius, fostering meaningful connecti…
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Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive Eating
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37:57Episode 138: Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive EatingAs women, as leaders, as humans striving for connection and authenticity, we often find ourselves navigating the delicate balance of strength and vulnerability. Our energy is fierce yet compassionate, loving yet boundaried. We do things differently, and …
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Creativity, Entrepreneurship, & Living an Aligned Life (Season 5)
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27:59Episode 137: Creativity, Entrepreneurship, & Living an Aligned Life (Season 5)Welcome to Season 5!I’m so excited to kick off this season of The Innovative Therapist Podcast with a fresh approach: a seasonal model. In Episode 137, I share why I made this shift and how this season’s theme, Creativity, Entrepreneurship, & Living an Aligned Life, will …
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Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius (Innovative Therapist Update)
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30:48Episode 136: Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of GeniusWelcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! This episode marks a small milestone for the show—I've officially upgraded my mic setup! After 137 episodes of recording with a free noise-canceling headset (and occasionally in my car on my phone), I finally invested in a proper mic and p…
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What I did with my Halloween Candy How this Relates to Food Addiction
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11:26Episode 136. I'm feeling more called to share things about the food relationship again lately, which has been kind of fun. I talk about this stuff all day every day with many of my 1 on 1 clients, and sometimes I forget that it isn't second nature to people, since I've spent many a year focusing on improving my relationship to food and body for mys…
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Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 2)
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1:01:14Episode 134. Today's episode is Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with Becca Gibson. Please make sure to go back and listen to Part 1 first.In this part of the conversation we dive into the good stuff. The ways that therapists and other helpers accidentally cause harm, how to avoid this, and some of the things Becca really wishes people knew about peo…
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Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 1)
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56:20Episode 133. I am so incredibly grateful for this conversation. I'm especially grateful for Becca's knowledge and openness about their personal and professional experiences in this realm. I'm also so glad I live in a time when therapists can come on a podcast and be open about their personal experiences. What a freaking gift.Becca is a therapist wh…
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How to Fall In Love With Yourself with Elise Kutt of ModBettie Photography
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1:12:08Episode 132: Creativity, Healing & Building Empowering Communities with Elise Kutt of Mod Bettie“I knew I wanted to do something creative every day for the rest of my life.” – Elise KuttSome conversations hit you right in the heart—and this one with Elise Kutt is exactly that kind of conversation. I’ve been looking forward to this interview for a w…
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The Story of the Inaugural Innovative Therapist Retreat!
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15:58Episode 131. The 1st Annual Innovative Therapist Retreat is in the books! It's been almost 3 weeks, and it's time to share how it went. This episode is more about my experience hosting and some early reflections.More later on the healing power of community, and other's experiences. If you are thinking of creating something innovative, this episode …
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Episode 130. This episode is the first I've talked about my relationship to food in a while, but I woke up feeling compelled to share on this topic, so I went with it. I cover how our relationship with food can have parallels to our relationship to money and how all of this can impact our ability to trust ourselves and pursue work that feels aligne…
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Episode 129. I have loved this quote from Howard Thurman for years:"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive."The concept of Zone of Genius was introduced to me 2 years ago and I find it so incredibly helpful. So today, I'll be sharing…
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Episode 128. I've never been more convinced of the power of creativity in creating amazing things in the world, in our bodies, and in our businesses. Today's episode is a solo episode where I dive into my thoughts on this based on my conversation last episode with Marlys Woods, LMFT.Check out that conversation here.Without further ado, let’s dive i…
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Episode 127. Saddle up and get ready listeners! We are talking about music and healing today. Yes! I hope you are as excited as I am. I've been searching for the perfect guest to come on and talk about this, and let me tell you, I found her.How Music Can Heal Us (But Also Can Cause Harm)Marlys Woods of Get In Tune Music Therapy is a board certified…
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How to Create Something Truly Aligned That Helps People (My Personal Experience Building a Retreat)
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18:58Episode 126. Welcome to the first solo episode of an experiment I'm really excited about! I've done around 60 podcast interviews now (!!) and I LOVE it. So freaking much. I want them to last forever and I have so much to say, but also I learn so much during and after the interviews. So my new experiment, starting now is I will do a solo episode whe…
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How to Thrive as a Therapist (and maybe host a Retreat!) with Megan Gunnell, LMSW
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33:29Episode 125. This week's podcast episode was so good.I had been following Megan Gunnell's work for a while.And then unexpectedly, she reached out to me. (!!)This sort of feels like what it might feel like for a celeb to reach out and ask to hang out.She asked if I might want to meet up and talk about the potential for collaboration.Umm... yes ple…
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Episode 124. I get a lot of podcast pitches. Many of them, it's clear they've never listened to my podcast and have zero idea about my audience. Others are pitching people that have truly nothing to do with what a do (men's hair removal expert, anyone? Just why?). Someone reached out to me to introduce Ann though and I was intrigued (I mean, read t…
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Harnessing the Power of Creativity In and Out of the Therapy Room
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26:30Episode 123. Today's solo episode is all about my thoughts about Creativity. I've been thinking about this topic a LOT lately. And it's been incredibly fun.I read this book recently and already am re-listening to it. It's Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth Gilbert and I've found it really inspiring. I have really been slowing down …
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ENCORE: How To Develop Unconditional Self-Worth with Dr. Adia Gooden, PhD
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50:09Episode 122. In deciding which episodes were worth replaying for you this summer, this one immediately came to mind for a few reasons.First of all, I've referenced this conversation many times since I had it in July 2021 (3 years ago!!). I've talked about it on the podcast, and I've referenced it in my head.To share how it's impacted me, we have to…
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Episode 121. One of the questions I get most often from people when they learn that I'm aligned with the Health at Every Size® movement is some version of this:"But I've worked for many years in XX setting and I've seen how people suffer when they have excess weight on their bodies. How can we really say that people can be healthy at every size?"To…
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Episode 120. I’ve said it before and I will say it again, I am often profoundly changed by the impact of the conversations I have on this podcast. I still remember quotes and concepts from people I interviewed a year ago, and I still sometimes re-listen to the conversations to remind myself of the lessons I learned from them.This conversation with …
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How To Stop Overworking (Or Doing Other Things You You Wish You Didn’t Do)
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38:19Episode 119. In today's solo episode, I'm going to share some of what I've learned about IFS and how it works based on both my personal and professional experiences thus far.I'm also going to talk about learning to slow down, how it's a journey I'm still on, and how IFS helps me actually do it, specifically focusing on my example of my Overworking …
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Writing a Children’s Book While Working Full Time as a Psychologist with Dr. Amy Neeren
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57:17Episode 118. Today's episode is a special conversation with Dr. Amy Neeren who has shown amazing resilience in terms of finding a career in psychology that felt right for her, and a big piece of that has been pursuing a career outside of her full-time work as a psychologist in writing fiction. She has published two children's books in the tradition…
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3 Truths That Shifted Everything When it Comes to Binge Eating (and How Internal Family Systems Helped Me)
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31:36Episode 117. In today's solo episode, I'm going to share some of my healing journey and a bit of an update about where I'm a today. This will include reflecting back on what really helped me heal from binge eating disorder and the chronic dieting cycle, as well as what continues to help me build trust with myself today as I work to build a life tha…
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Sex therapy, Neurodivergence, & Innovative Trauma Therapy with Sharon Depcinski, LMSW, CST
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1:00:53Episode 116. Today’s episode was a super interesting conversation with Sharon Depcinski, LMSW. Sharon is a Certified Sex Therapist and wonderful human being (that I actually got to meet in person a few hours after our conversation at a local therapist meetup!).Sharon reached out to me to share a newer therapy modality she was learning called TRIP, …
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Thoughts on The Weight Loss Revolution Oprah Special with Dr. Kim Daniels
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39:41Episode 115. Today's episode was another "this sounds like a fun idea" that quickly came to fruition. I logged into the YouTube TV app on my phone and saw that the Oprah Special on the weight loss GLP-1 meds was being recorded.The show was titled: An Oprah Special: Shame, Blame and the Weight Loss RevolutionI watched a little bit of it, but then de…
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My Story of Becoming an Innovative Therapist (Interview with Randi Rubenstein!)
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51:30Episode 114. This week's episode is special. I was on the Mastermind Parenting podcast with Randi Rubenstein, my beloved parent coach recently. And the convo was so good, that we are replaying it here.So if you want to learn a little more about my story and how I got here, and hear me chat about it with one of the people who have been most influent…
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What is an Internal Family Systems Level 1 Training Like? My personal experience of the first 4 days
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23:09Episode 113. This week's episode is all about my first 4 days of my Internal Family Systems Level 1 training! So if you're curious about what this IFS thing is, what the training is like, if it's worth the wait and the money, and what I'm learning, this episode is for you!What to Expect in this episode:My process with finding IFS and the long proce…
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Introducing the Innovative Therapist Podcast!
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30:26Episode 112. It's official. It is here. This week's episode is all about the new podcast, The Innovative Therapist Podcast. This name and shifting of the podcast reflects my internal shifts, and who I am becoming and permission for all of us to think more creatively with regards to how we think about healing. In this episode, I will tell you what t…
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How to Use Meditation and Movement to Connect with Parts of You with Natalie Deering, MS LPP
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1:19:48Episode 111. I just loved this conversation with Natalie Deering. Natalie is the host of the podcast That Wellness Podcast which is a podcast she started in February 2023 and she's already had some incredible guests including Dr. Richards Schwartz, Dr. Frank Anderson, and many others. We had a great conversation about many things, but Natalie reall…
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Emotional Freedom Technique and Other Alternative Healing Techniques with Pooja Arora
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59:12Episode 110. On this week's podcast, we talk to Pooja Arora who you are going to absolutely love. (Peyton, my intern who edits the podcast says it was one of her favorite episodes ever).Even though I feel really excited about this episode, a part of me is definitely anxious.Why?Because on the podcast, we talk about a variety of methods of healing t…
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Episode 109. Kate block is a gem. She's a therapeutic bodyworker, yoga teacher, and fellow science lover. She's also someone who walks the walk, meaning she listens to her body and what doesn't feel right for her, and makes uncomfortable changes when necessary.Today you get to hear her story, and a whole bunch of wisdom, and I am confident you will…
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From Control to Freedom: An Authentic Conversation about IFS With Dr. Allyn Richards
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44:23Episode 108. Hi all! This episode was a super fun one for me. Basically, you get to sit down and hear a conversation with my dear friend Dr. Allie Richards. In this conversation, our goal was to have an honest conversation about our career trajectories as psychologists and how we've both strayed fairly far from much of the training we got in how to…
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Episode 107. Hey everyone! I just did something kinda painful.I went back to this very large google document where I've been journaling and documenting my thoughts since I started my business in Jan 2021.In August 2021, my grandpa had just died. I was super lucky to know all 4 of my grandparents for many years, but my grandpa was the last of the 4.…
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Self-Deception, Love Addiction & Body Trust with Dr. Cortney Warren, PhD, ABPP
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1:14:28Episode 106. Hey everyone! In this interview with Dr. Cortney Warren we cover the gamut of topics. Dr. Warren has an incredible amount of personal and professional wisdom to share with us, and to be honest, I had a hard time containing my excitement and making sure I asked everything I wanted to. She shares such wisdom about various ways our cultur…
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Navigating Health and Empowerment: A Conversation with Dr. Dina Goldstein Silverman
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51:27Episode 105. Hey there, wonderful listeners! I'm so excited to be back with you today for this great conversation with Dr. Dina Goldstein Silverman. This episode is packed with insights that will leave you feeling inspired and ready to embrace positive shifts in your approach to health. And if you're anything like me, you'll feel optimistic that we…
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Listener Update: Reason for the Pause, Rest
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27:15Episode 104. Embracing The Power of Doing Nothing.Welcome back to the Motivation Made Easy podcast! I'm thrilled to have Taylor joining me once again on today's episode where we take a moment to address the reason behind our podcast's short pause. (See you very soon on November 27th!). This pause feels sort of like the end of a very long "season 2"…
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Why Inclusivity is Essential for Wellness and How to Infuse it Sustainably
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29:01Episode 103. Hey there, wonderful listeners! Dr. Shawn Hondorp here, and today, I am looking forward to sharing an important episode with you. In this episode, we're diving into the essential topics of inclusivity and emotional safety in the wellness space.Inclusivity and Emotional Safety: A Personal ReflectionAs a cis-gender white woman with vario…
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Embracing Authenticity and Inclusivity: A Journey of Inspiration with Coach Sammie B
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1:09:35Episode 102. In a world that is gradually becoming more open and accepting, there are still many areas where we have a long way to go when it comes to inclusivity and acceptance. In the world of running, Coach Sammie B stands out as a beacon of hope, focusing on inclusivity and creating safe spaces for the LGBTQIA+ community. Her dedication to spre…
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