Best Diane Lang Podcasts (2025)

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S5E04: Marcie Samayoa on NGSS and Explicit Science Instruction 44:21

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In this episode, I’m joined by Marcie Samayoa—science teacher, cognitive science enthusiast, and blogger of Scientists in the Making. Marcie shares the origin story behind her innovative classroom blog and explains how it grew out of a desire to make science learning more equitable, evidence-based, and joyful. We dive into some of the most persiste…

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James Janko and Diane Botnick on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with James Janko, whose remarkable novel is the Wire Walker, the story of a Palestinian Circus Girl, her friendship with a Jewish Israeli Juggler, and the realities of their lives in the current climate. Also featured is Diane Botnick with her novel Becoming Sarah, a human story that spans from a birth in Auschwitz in 1942 to the…

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S5E03: John Mighton on Building Math Confidence, One Problem at a Time 44:02

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In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. John Mighton — mathematician, playwright, best-selling author, and founder of JUMP Math. John shares his insights into one of the most misunderstood concepts in education today—the belief that only some students are “math people”—and explains why dismantling this idea is essential for equity and achievement. As we…

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How Progress Ends with Carl Benedikt Frey 28:37

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In How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations, Carl Benedikt Frey argues that progress, throughout history, has not just depended on technological innovations but also on the flexibility of our institutions. Frey is the associate professor of AI & Work at the University of Oxford, where he directs the Future of Work program.…

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S5E02: Linda Diamond & Paige Pullen on Connecting Learning, Literacy, and Instruction 39:29

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In this powerful episode, I’m joined by two of the most influential voices in literacy education today—Linda Diamond and Paige Pullen. With decades of experience in education, Linda and Paige bring clarity to the evidence-based education movement and the science of reading in particular. Together, we dive into their framework of three interrelated …

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Shelley Blanton-Stroud and Marilyn J. Zimmerman on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with author Shelley Blanton-Stroud on the craft of writing and her latest novel, An Unlikely Prospect, set in the San Francisco publishing world near the close of WWII. Also featured is Suzanne’s conversation with Marilyn J. Zimmerman on her legal thriller, In Defense of Good Women, centered on the issue of infanticide. It’s A No…

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S5E01: Greg Ashman on Explicit Teaching and Inquiry Learning 55:29

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Welcome to Season 5 of Progressively Incorrect! In this special premiere episode, I’m joined by Greg Ashman, a leading advocate for explicit instruction and one of the most important voices in education today. We begin by analyzing a new video from Jo Boaler, where she casts “step-by-step instruction” as the villain in favor of an … Continue readin…

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Anointed with Toby Stuart 31:58

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In Anointed: The Extraordinary Effects of Social Status in A Winner-Take-Most World, Toby Stuart dives deeply into the power that social status holds over us. Stuart is the Leo Helzel Chair in Entrepreneurship and Innovation at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. In his new book, he explores how social status shapes everything—from who we trust …

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Laurel Munson Boyers and Stanley A. Rice on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with Laurel Munson Boyers on her book Across Yosemite’s Wilderness, a Trailblazing Woman’s Career Protecting the Park’s Backcountry. Also featured is Stanley A. Rice about Forgotten Landscapes, How Native Americans Created Pre-Columbian North America and What we Can Learn From It. A Novel Idea, every first, third, and fifth Sunda…

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Reshuffle with Sangeet Paul Choudary 30:29

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In Reshuffle: Who Wins When AI Restacks the Knowledge Economy, Sangeet Paul Choudary explores common misconceptions about how AI will change work, organizations, and business ecosystems. Choudary is the founder and CEO of Platformation Labs and a senior fellow at UC Berkeley’s Haas School of Business. An expert on AI, platforms, and the economics o…

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Stephen P. Huyler and Olive Senior on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with artist Stephen P. Huyler, who has traveled India for just about half a century and through photographs and capturing material objects, he highlights the culture of the subcontinent; his memoir is India, a Life. Suzanne also talks with Poet Laureate emerita Olive Senior on her recent novel Paradise Once, set in 1513 on the is…

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The Eurasian Century with Hal Brands 23:00

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In The Eurasian Century: Hot Wars, Cold Wars, and the Making of the Modern World, Hal Brands illuminates the historical patterns we must understand in order to better navigate the geopolitical rivalries of the present. Hal Brands is the Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced Internationa…

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S4E39: Shawn Datchuk on Teaching Sentence Construction with Precision 43:12

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Dr. Shawn Datchuk, a leading researcher who’s helped shape how we think about sentence construction for struggling learners. Drawing from the literature on Precision Teaching and Direct Instruction, Shawn shares how timed practice and explicit strategies can accelerate mastery in writing, es…

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S4E38: Nathan Lang-Raad on Learning Science and Artificial Intelligence 28:52

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Nathan Lang-Raad for a wide-ranging conversation that threads together two hot-button topics: artificial intelligence and the science of learning. There’s excitement everywhere—some even say AI will revolutionize teaching and learning. But are we getting ahead of ourselves? Nathan and I expl…

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Tik Maynard and Rossana D’Antonio on A Novel Idea

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At midlife, equestrian Tik Maynard embarks on a life journey when he prepares to compete in “Road to the Horse”, a competition to start an untamed horse over three days. Tik joins Suzanne Lang on this experience and his memoir Starting in the Middle, How Horses, Those Who Study Them, and 265 Minutes with One Colt Helped Me find Myself at Midlife. A…

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S4E37: John Tanner on Tests, College, and Cheating Scandals 47:41

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I sat down with a personal friend whose work I deeply respect: John Tanner. His leadership in education has weathered storms—most notably, false accusations of cheating after huge gains in achievement were obtained at his school. But what shines through is his steadfast belief in the life-changing power o…

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S4E36: Bonnie Grossen and Kurt Engelmann on Full Immersion Direct Instruction 56:53

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In this episode of The Direct Instruction Podcast – cross-posted on Progressively Incorrect – I’m joined by Bonnie Grossen and Kurt Engelmann, two long-time advocates and practitioners whose work has shaped the real-world application of schoolwide Direct Instruction. After engaging conversations with both of them—on everything from implementation a…

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Honorée Fanonne Jeffers and L. Annette Binder on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with Honorée Fanonne Jeffers, author of Oprah Book Club read The Love Songs of W.E.B. DuBois, on her latest book of family, legacy, and being who you are, Misbehaving at the Crossroads, Essays & Writings. Child of Earth and Starry Heaven is L. Annette Binder’s meditation on her mother’s passage to death through the labyrinth of A…

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Emely Rumble and Susan Church-Downer on A Novel Idea

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Literature and reading as healers. Suzanne Lang talks with Bibliotherapist Emely Rumble, LCSW, about this practice and her book Bibliotherapy In The Bronx. Books are a way into who we are. Also featured is Susan Church-Downer, former owner of the Santa Rosa restaurant, Gaia’s Garden, who shares her memoir All You Care To Eat, A Novice Buys A Restau…

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S4E35: Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein on MTSS and Direct Instruction 52:02

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In this episode of The Direct Instruction Podcast - cross-posted on Progressively Incorrect - I’m joined by Stephanie Stollar, Diane Kinder, and Marcy Stein—three educators and researchers whose work intersects at the heart of effective instruction and systems-level change. After engaging conversations with each of them around Multi-Tiered Systems …

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Mark B. Perry and Beth Hahn on A Novel Idea

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Mid Century LA with Suzanne Lang as she talks with Emmy winning writer & producer Mark B. Perry on his novel depicting the squelching of authenticity and sexual identity by the ever powerful studio system, and Introducing Dexter Gaines, a Novel of Old Hollywood. Also featured is Beth Hahn with her novel set literally in the underground of 1947 LA. …

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S4E34: Jonah Davids on the Debates Over Restorative Justice and SEL 34:47

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m joined by Jonah Davids. Jonah and I met while participating in a panel discussion around declining behavior in schools (listen here), which led me to invite him to discuss the evidence base behind Restorative Justice and Social-Emotional approaches in education. Are we on track or has there been … Con…

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Gerald Warburg and Larry Tye on A Novel Idea

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The Point Reyes National Seashore remains in the forefront of preservation and controversy. Suzanne Lang talks with Gerald Warburg on his book Saving Point Reyes, How an Epic Conservation Victory Became a Tipping Point for Environmental Policy Action. Also featured is a new conversation with Larry Tye to mark the paperback release of his book, The …

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S4E33: Peps Mccrea on Great Teaching and Human Flourishing 46:57

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Peps Mccrea, the Director of Education at Steplab and the mind behind the must-read online newsletter, Evidence Snacks. Peps has dedicated his career to improving education through evidence-based practices. His latest project includes Great Teaching, Unpacked, a Netflix-style docume…

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Lizzie Wade and Manjula Martin on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang traverses history with journalist Lizzie Wade on her book Apocalypse, How Catastrophe Transformed Our World and Can Forge New Futures, a comprehensive and optimistic look at where we’ve been and where we may be going. Also featured is Suzanne’s conversation with Manjula Martin on her book The Last Fire Season, A Personal and Pyronatura…

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Maria Foscarinis and Chris Cabral on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang is joined by trailblazing housing advocate Maria Foscarinis in conversation on her book And Housing for All: The Fight to End Homelessness In America. Adding to the conversation is Chris Cabral, CEO of Petaluma’s COTS (Committee on the Shelterless). It’s A Novel Idea, Sunday, May 18th at 10:00 am PDT. Streaming and podcasting at krcb.o…

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S4E32: Rachel Ball on Scaffolded Instruction and Adaptive Teaching 50:08

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Rachel Ball, Coaching Development Lead at Steplab and a passionate advocate for effective teaching based on the science of learning. Rachel will explore her new book, The Scaffolding Effect, and the Explicit Instruction Conference we are both keynoting in New Mexico (sign up here!).…

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The Measure of Progress with Diane Coyle 22:31

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In The Measure of Progress: Counting What Really Matters, Dame Diane Coyle argues that traditional measures like GDP no longer capture economic realities. Coyle is the Bennett Professor of Public Policy at the University of Cambridge. She is also the director of the Productivity Institute, a fellow of the Office for National Statistics, and a membe…

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Ian leslie and Arnold Levine on A Novel Idea

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John and Paul, a Love Story in Songs is Leslie's remarkable book on the creative and personal friendship of John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Join Suzanne Lang in conversation with Ian Leslie on this insightful and moving book. Also featured is Arnold Levine with his book Banned by the BBC, How I became a Radio Pirate, a Memoir of 1970’s London. A No…

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S4E31: Laura Stam on Integrating Explicit Teaching Practices into Elementary Classrooms 34:27

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m delighted to host Laura Stam, a dedicated advocate for the Science of Reading and Direct Instruction. Laura will share her expertise on designing and curating resources to integrate content and vocabulary into literacy, discuss new shifts in her thinking and teaching, and offer insights into how struc…

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Chokepoints with Eddie Fishman 34:40

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In Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare, Edward Fishman argues that the nature of international power has fundamentally shifted from military might to economic statecraft. Fishman is a senior research scholar at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy and an adjunct professor of International and Public Affairs at…

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S4E30: Ronak Bhatt on Accelerated Learning and Homogeneous Grouping 47:24

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I’m honored to host Ronak Bhatt, the accomplished founder and school leader of TELRA Institute. Ronak will discuss how acceleration can open doors for learners, share his thoughts on the benefits and challenges of homogeneous grouping, and provide insights into experimental educational models that offer b…

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S4E29: Rachel Sewell on the Ingredients of Effective Professional Development 57:25

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am delighted to host Rachel Sewell, Coaching Development Lead at Steplab and a passionate advocate for effective professional development. Rachel will explore the 14 mechanisms of effective professional development, including how they build knowledge, motivate educators, develop teaching techniques, and…

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There's Nothing Like This with Kevin Evers 24:43

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In There's Nothing Like This: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift, Kevin Evers examines the singer-songwriter's remarkable career success from a business strategy perspective. Evers is a senior editor at Harvard Business Review, where he has edited bestselling and award-winning books on high performance, creativity, innovation, digital disruption,…

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S4E28: Jonathan Regino on Curriculum Evaluation and Math Coaching 44:18

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In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, I am thrilled to host Jonathan Regino, an innovative educator and instructional leader known for his expertise in curriculum adoption and math coaching. Jonathan is passionate about enhancing teaching practices and fostering impactful math learning experiences. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorr…

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Jean Shinoda Bolen, plus Bremond Berry MacDougall and Lisa Cooper on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne M Lang talks with Jean Shinoda Bolen, an internationally renowned Jungian analyst, speaker, activist for women’s empowerment, and prolific author. Her latest book is Ever Widening Circles and Mystical Moments, a deeply personal memoir of her nearly ninety years of living. Also featured is Bremond Berry MacDougall and Lisa Cooper, founders o…

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S4E27: Richard Mayer on the Cognitive Theory of Multimedia Learning 54:34

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Today, I am thrilled to host Richard Mayer on Progressively Incorrect, a distinguished educational psychologist and researcher known worldwide for his groundbreaking contributions to understanding how we learn. Rich brings a wealth of knowledge and a sharp focus on multimedia learning, generative learning, and evidence-based critiques of discovery …

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Terri Lewis and Janet Constantino on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with author Terri Lewis on her historical novel set in the early 13th century in England, when King John abducts and marries the eleven year old Isabelle d’Angoulême to be his queen. The story, featuring a love triangle, is based on facts: Behold the Bird in Flight, a Novel of an Abducted Queen. Also featured is Janet Constantino…

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S4E26: Lynn Gaffney on Bridging Leadership and the Science of Learning 34:07

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Today, I am thrilled to host Lynn Gaffney on Progressively Incorrect, a passionate educator and leader known for her deep commitment to bridging research and practice in schools. Lynn brings a wealth of experience and a sharp focus on the science of learning, using evidence-informed strategies to drive meaningful outcomes for students and teachers …

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Samantha Rose and Remembering Susan Swartz on A Novel Idea

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Suzanne Lang talks with best-selling author Samantha Rose on her memoir Giving Up the Ghost, a Daughter’s Memoir. Samantha is the daughter of author and syndicated columnist Susan Swartz, who died by suicide in early 2020. Also featured is a conversation Suzanne had with Swartz on her first novel, Laughing in the Dark, which had just been released …

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S4E25: Daisy Christodoulou on Assessment Practices and Challenges 53:45

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Today, I am thrilled to host Daisy Christodoulou, an esteemed author and education expert renowned for her groundbreaking work on curriculum and assessment. Daisy's thought-provoking insights have reshaped the way educators approach teaching, and her books, including "Seven Myths About Education," have become essential reads in the field. In this e…

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S4E24: Randi Saulter and Ann Baum on DI in Special Education Settings 48:54

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Today I am excited to be bringing you an episode of the DI podcast with Randi Saulter and Ann Baum. Randi and Ann are two passionate special education teachers who will take us through what Zig Engelmann called the “picky, picky” details of implementing DI in special education classrooms. This episode is chock full of … Continue reading S4E24: Rand…

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Space to Grow with Matthew Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau 30:46

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In Space to Grow: Unlocking the Final Economic Frontier, Matthew C. Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau discuss the discuss the history, the present, and the future of the space economy. Weinzierl is the Joseph and Jacqueline Elbling professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School and founder of the Economics of Space project at HBS. Ross…