The Back 9 is a podcast hosted by Dennis Williams and Josh Mora, targeting individuals in or approaching mid-life who seek more fulfillment in various aspects of their lives. The hosts discuss topics such as starting over in careers or dating, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, openness to change, and learning from experiences. The podcast aims to create a safe space for introspection, covering challenges like living alone, dating fears, and making mistakes. They invite guests, inclu ...
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100 Conversations That Matter — Making the Turn, TB9, S10
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51:27Ninety-nine episodes ago, the Back 9 started with two men in midlife, a couple of microphones, and a resolve to ask better, more pointed questions about the second half of life, with the belief that people out there needed the same kind of conversation. Turns out, a lot of you did. To mark the milestone of our 100th episode, our producer, Janine St…
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The 19th Hole — Agree to Disagree TB9, S9, E19
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33:58It's toastin' time on The Back 9 with this season's 19th hole. We revisit the conversations that stuck with us most — the very best thoughts from the season about professional reinvention, leadership and how to gracefully come to grips with the end of things. But the biggest takeaway from Season 9 is about the importance going straight to the sourc…
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Podcasters Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean: Friends Without Benefits TB9, S9, E18
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39:17We kick off fall with a little friendly South Florida smack talk, as we welcome the hilarious Rachel Sobel and Dale McLean from the Friends Without Benefits Podcast. Dale, the in-arena host for the Miami Heat, humorously shares his challenges finding steady relationships in his demographic, while Rachel, a much-published writer, offers all kinds of…
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MLB All-Star Dan Plesac: Setting Aside Ego to Evolve in Your Role TB9, S9, E17
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41:34On this episode of The Back 9, Dennis and Josh catch up with three time All Star reliever and longtime MLB analyst Dan Plesac for a masterclass on how to fulfill your role — as a professional, a father and a man. Dan discusses his evolution from ninth inning hammer to matchup specialist, and the difficulty he had accepting his new role in the bullp…
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Top Realtor Ray Collins: Successful Reinvention in both Work and Romance TB9, S9, E16
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34:20In this episode of The Back 9 we catch up with Ray Collins, who spent his first career as a broadcaster before trading in the bright lights of morning TV for a second act in real estate and a richer personal life. Ray walks us through a career shaped by early mentors like Van Miller, the moment he realized it was time for him to leave the newsroom …
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Baseball Legend Jeff Manto: Exiting Gracefully TB9, S9, E15
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36:07On this episode of the Back 9, baseball lifer Jeff Manto joins Dennis and Josh. Jeff was a prodigious home run hitter who spent the front 9 of his career bouncing between the major leagues and the high minors, including championship runs in the Yankees and Indians organizations. He shares what he learned about team culture, and how good winning cul…
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Radio Host Chris "The Bulldog" Parker: What to Do When Your Kid's Dream Ends TB9, S9, E14
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44:59Chris "The Bulldog" Parker has been a colleague and friend of ours for over 30 years, and he joins the Back 9 for a conversation about how our perspective changes as we age. Chris reflects on three decades behind the mic and how, when we become husbands and fathers, our attitude can change towards our jobs and how we approach what matters in life. …
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Sports Director Jamie Seh — Allow Yourself to Surprise Yourself TB9, S9, E13
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38:57On this episode of The Back 9, Jamie Seh, Sports Director at the CBS affiliate in Orlando, reflects on her journey of breaking barriers as a woman in sports broadcasting. She discusses the challenges and triumphs of a decades-long career, and how, as she reaches the Back 9, she has started to search for what's next. Spoiler alert: Jamie has found h…
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Talk Show Host Brian Shactman — How to Write Your Own Ending TB9, S9, E12
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38:30This week on The Back 9, we sit down with our good friend Brian Shactman, the former MSNBC anchor, to talk about navigating the twists and turns of our career paths, the hard pivots that come when you don't get to choose your ending, and the lessons he learned along the way. From way too early mornings in radio to high-profile roles at ESPN, CNBC a…
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Entrepreneur Jeff Perera: Bagels, Business and Believing in Yourself TB9, S9, E11
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36:59Jeff Perera's story is a masterclass in reinvention. He's the founder of Jeff's Bagel Run, one of the fastest growing brands in the country. Jeff joins us to share how losing his corporate job at 42 led to a new passion, a thriving franchise, and a lesson in letting go of control. Jeff spreads his secret recipes for success that has led from a cott…
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Author/Speaker Ryan Minton — How to Uplift the People Around You TB9, S9, E10
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35:05This week on The Back 9, we kick off a new season with a powerful conversation about leadership, culture, and the ripple effect of kindness. Guest Ryan Minton—author, keynote speaker, and former hospitality exec—joins us to share how a single front desk employee changed the way he leads forever. Ryan reminds us that creating a positive work culture…
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Making the Turn: How To Be Every Kind of Rich
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17:01We kick off Season Nine by exploring what abundance really looks like at this stage of life. We unpack how ambition shifts, why "more" isn't always better, and how quieter wins can make us feel wealthier than chasing it all. Of course, it's not all serious—we swap stories about getting locked out walking the dog, and the strange comfort we find in …
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On this final stop in Season 8, we reflect on the real throughline of the entire season - self power. Whether it's setting boundaries, respecting the ones set for us, or knowing when to stop selling our perspective, this episode dives deep into the emotional shifts that come in our midlife relationships, including the one we have with ourselves. We…
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Round 8: Ep. 18 - Relationship Expert Owen Marcus: Feeling is Strength, Not Weakness
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40:03We close season 8 of The Back 9 with a powerful episode, as we sit down with Owen Marcus, the founder of MELD and a pioneer in men's emotional wellness. Owen helps us explore the connection between somatic awareness and emotional authenticity. Owen shares some of his own journey to help us dive deep into why most men have never been taught how to f…
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Round 8: Ep. 17 - Former NHL All-Star Brian Campbell -- Find Your One Thing
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43:06What do you get when you mix elite skating, red hair, and a thousand NHL games? A damn good conversation about life -- and hockey -- with former NHL All-Star Brian Campbell. In this episode of The Back 9, we welcome the Stanley Cup champion and individual Trophy winner to the mic for a refreshingly honest ride through his career, leadership lessons…
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Round 8: Ep. 16 - The Soggy Dollar's Leon Miller - Living in Paradise
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42:39No prescription needed this week on The Back 9, as we catch up with the one and only Leon Miller -- aka, "Dr. Painkiller". Leon is the magnetic force behind the legendary Soggy Dollar Bar on Jost Van Dyke in the British Virgin Islands. From beach kid to island icon, Leon shares how he has built a lifestyle brand rooted in rum, resilience, and real …
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Round 8 : Ep 15 -Vegas Bartender Kerry Wald -- Poet, Storyteller and World Class Listener
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38:12Kerry Wald is a well-known Las Vegas bartender, storyteller, poet and world-class listener. In this episode, Kerry shares how his journey behind the bar has allowed him a first-row seat to the pain people carry in silence, until they open up to him, a stranger. From those raw stories, Kerry learned the value of truly listening and of finding the jo…
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Round 8: Ep 14 - Kristen Griffin: Rewriting Your Old Story
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35:44Kristen Griffin faced unimaginable loss. She was a young wife, pregnant with her first child, when her husband was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. What followed was a two-decade journey of reframing her life story: from grieving young widow to successful executive, to full-time women's coach. In this powerful and inspirational conversation, K…
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Round 8: Ep 13 - Founder Pam Jordan: How to Build Wealth in Mid-Life and Help Our Kids Learn About the Power of Money
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35:18What happens when your million-dollar company crumbles and you're left with nothing but lessons and grit? Pam Jordan shares her unfiltered journey that led her to found the Pivot Business Group which helps entrepreneurs finally get real about their numbers. She's part business strategist, part money therapist, and full-blown truth-teller. In this e…
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Round 8: Ep 12 - Josh Gregory: Dead Man in the Mirror — One Man's Battle to Sobriety
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40:07A few years ago, Josh Gregory saw his reflection in the mirror, and found only darkness staring back. No love, no hate, just pure emptiness. In this raw and riveting episode, hear the powerful story of a boy who started drinking at age 11, then spent decades hiding in plain sight as a high-functioning alcoholic, before he finally hit the breaking p…
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Round 8: Ep 11 - Suzette Bravo — Stop Running, Start Leading
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39:13What happens when you stop running from the pain? For Suzette Bravo, it was the realization that she'd spent a lifetime avoiding the trauma underneath. In this episode, she shares what happened when she finally faced it head-on, and how that led her to a deeper understanding of masculine and feminine energy—not as stereotypes, but as powerful, comp…
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Round 8: Ep 10 - Broadcaster Glen Kuiper: Overcoming Cancel Culture
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39:03Glen Kuiper was the voice of the Oakland A's for over two decades—until one on-air slip changed everything. In this gripping episode of The Back Nine, Glen tells his side of the story : what really happened during that fateful pregame segment, how corporate pressure forced a rushed apology, and the painful aftermath of being publicly canceled for s…
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Round 8 : Making the Turn - Text Like Gen Xers, Party like Rock Stars
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17:05It's a little musical interlude on the Back 9 as we tee up season 8. From karaoke showdowns, subway serenades and memories of mixtapes, we hit every note about the role music plays in our lives. And we talk about how the kids just don't get it — yes, they occasionally listen to Sade, but they don't know how to pronounce her name. Plus, get a sneak …
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Round 7: The 19th Hole- The Most Important Thing You Can Do as a Parent
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22:49In this raw Season 7 finale, we take on one our most honest and emotional conversations to date, as we discuss how parents often wound their children by airing their own relationship grievances and personal traumas. It's a candid take on co-parenting, accountability, and the ripple effect of unresolved hurt. It's a tough but necessary topic for any…
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Round 7: Ep - 18 Psychologist/Author Dr. Janne Lomasky: To Stay or Not to Stay: Choosing Between Growth and Goodbye?
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41:42What does it really take to decide whether to stay or leave a relationship that no longer feels healthy—or safe? In this powerful conversation with clinical psychologist and author Dr. Janae Lomosky, we explore the emotional toll of staying too long, the real reason many people feel "stuck," and how to begin rebuilding self-worth and mental clarity…
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Round 7: Ep - 17 Former NFL Receiver Drew Haddad — How to Give Life to Your Dreams
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41:46Talent matters. Grit may matter more. On this Surprise Guest episode of The Back 9, we sit down with former NFL wide receiver Drew Haddad — a guy who needed to get every ounce out of his talent to make it in the NFL — for an unforgettable conversation about persistence, growth and the real meaning of success. Drew opens up about how he turned a tin…
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Round 7: Ep. 16 - NFL Network Host Scott Hanson — Red Zone Redemption
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48:47Scott Hanson is an iconic host at the helm of a one-of-a-kind job, and in this unique Surprise Guest episode, he bares all — sharing his story of how chasing his dream nearly cost him everything and how he walked away from his dream life in order to save it. From calling touchdowns to discovering a deeper calling, Scott reveals how his lowest momen…
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Round 7: Ep. 15 - Addiction Specialist Attorney Mark Astor: On Families Battling Addiction
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41:16While we battle the vagaries of middle age, some of our grown and nearly-grown children may struggle launching their own adult lives. When these struggles descend into addiction, every member of the family can be affected. In this intimate and riveting episode of The Back Nine, we are joined by Mark Astor, an attorney specializing in addiction and …
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Round 7: Ep. 14 - Matchmaker Shira Weitz: How to Find Your Next Person
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40:17On this episode of The Back 9, Dennis and Josh sail back into the world of modern romance with professional matchmaker Shira Weitz for a deep dive on how dating has evolved—especially for those re-entering the scene in middle age after divorce. Shira walks us through the entire process of the when and why one should consider a matchmaker, as well a…
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Round 7: Ep. 13 - Rich "The Bull" Gaenzler" — Do the Things that Make you Happy
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33:09Things happen to us on the Back 9. Our health might throw us a curve balls. Our dream career can vanish overnight. Our sense of purpose can become elusive. But in this deeply personal and unexpectedly uplifting episode, Rich "The Bull" Gaenzler opens up about his career loss, his health scares, his resulting identity crisis and how he's since rebui…
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Round 7: Ep. 12 - Hockey Coach Blaise MacDonald — The Evolution of Our Ambitions
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36:19Hockey Coach Blaise MacDonald set his sights high. He won a National Championship as a player. As a coach, he built a Division I program from the bottom up, took that program to the NCAA tournament, and then got hired to lead a team in one of the powerhouse conferences in college hockey. But somewhere along the way, his aspirations mellowed, and he…
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Round 7 : Episode 11 - Greg Schwem, A Second Act on Divorce, Dating & Deep-Dish Pizza
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43:03Ladies and Gentlemen, now taking the stage is Comedian Greg Schwem, a guy who is taking the tough lessons of life and spinning them into comedy gold. Greg shares how he has found humor in the unexpected, survived the bewilderment of dating and mid-life, and proved that starting over isn't just possible, but can also be amusing, hysterical and humbl…
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Round 7 : Episode 10 - Former Blockchain Association EVP Dave Grimaldi-A Primer on Crypto Currency
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37:07Did you know that you can now buy coffee at a cafe with crypto currency? Do you have a virtual wallet, and is it ready for the digital revolution? In this eye-opening, and season-opening episode of The Back 9, Dave Grimaldi, former EVP of the Blockchain Association, teaches us about Crypto from a 50-thousand foot level. He dissects terms, breaks do…
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Round 7: Making The Turn - Parenting, Openness, and a Back9 mascot? / A Sneak Peek at Season 7
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15:40On this episode of The Back 9, we weigh all the big questions of the future. How can we model for men to become more open and honest? How do we best parent our adult children? Should The Back 9 get a mascot? We know you are interested in all of these — especially the last one. But it's not just about mascots—this episode takes a heartfelt turn as w…
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Round 6: The 19th Hole - Planes, Trains and All of the Feels
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18:30As we wrap up Season 6 on The Back 9, we take you behind the scenes of the journey that made this season special. While we were landing new partners at Podfest, and performing live at Pod-a-pa-looza, we released a season full of memorable episodes that are worth revisiting. We went deep into love, dating and relationships with Brian Howie and Sweet…
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Round 6: Ep.18- Jewelry Designer/Cancer Survivor Julie Miles – Act Like You Want to Live
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40:08One minute, Julie Miles thought she had normal stomach pains. The next, she was fighting for her life. Julie is the unstoppable Australian jewelry stylist and fashionista who kicked a Stage 4 cancer diagnosis in the ass, transforming her life into one of passion, purpose, and high-end achievement. Julie shares the story of the pivotal advice that s…
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Round 6: Ep 17 - ESPN'S JAY HARRIS: The Significance of Sharing Stories
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36:45In the second half of our secret guest episodes, Josh taps ESPN's Jay Harris to surprise Dennis, and to share an insightful conversation about the evolution of the power of storytelling, both professional and personal. From his early days in news to becoming a staple behind the desk at ESPN, Jay shares the lessons he's learned, the impact of his me…
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Round 6: Ep 16 - PGA Tour Star Dudley Hart: Dudley Hart's Journey of Resilience and Redemption
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34:18It's the second season of surprise guests on the Back 9, and Dennis has dialed up a winner. A 2-time winner in fact. The guest is former PGA tour pro Dudley Hart, a guy who was sneaky good and steady for a long time before devastating injuries derailed his career. But Dudley has found joy in his second act as a coach – teaching the next generation …
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Round 6: Ep. 15 - Wealth Manager Matthew Nadeau: Mastering Your Financial Back Nine
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36:04It's a long-awaited resource episode of the Back 9, as we bring in Matthew Nadeau, wealth management expert and calculated risk-taker to help guide us through the financial decisions we may confront at this stage of life. Matthew will share his story of how he left corporate America to build his own firm, then offer practical advice on topics such …
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Round 6: Ep. 14 - Sweet, Spicy, and Single: Dating Truths You Won't Believe with Sweet and Spicy Podcasters Carolina Rush and Andrea Trout
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36:31You've likely never asked what man buns, backup quarterbacks and Back 9 dating life have in common, but if you have this is the episode for you. We welcome Carolina Rush and Andrea Trout from the Sweet and Spicy podcast onto the Back 9 for an unfiltered dive into the wild world of dating after 40. From online dating disasters and matchmaking myths …
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Round 6: Ep. 13 - How to Live Like a Lost Boy with Brand Creator Matt Atkinson
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28:16On this episode of the Back 9, we explore how to balance the grind of adulthood with the joy of living like a kid again. Our guest is Matthew Atkinson, a front 9er who founded the Lost Boys lifestyle brand, which explores the art of combining passion and responsibility, and celebrates the commitment to taking time off to recharge, even if we have t…
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Round 6: Ep. 12 - Performance Coach Keyen Lage: Living the Wild Adventurous Life
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40:30Friends, our first episode of the New Year features a guy who may be most comfortable on the edge. He's been on the edge of being an NFL player. He's been on stage as a professional stripper. And he was recently arrested in a remote region of Russia where he had been training with mixed-martial artists. If that doesn't pique your interest, then lis…
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Round 6: Ep - 11 Podcaster/Dating Expert Brian Howie: Dating and Love in the New Year
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36:56If you've been looking for love in all the wrong places, then join us for this special New Year's Eve episode of The Back 9, with Dating Expert Brian Howie. Brian is the prolific host of the highly acclaimed Great Love Debate podcast, and as we turn the calendar to 2025, he helps us dive deep into the modern world of dating, relationships, and navi…
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Round 6: Ep. 10 - Author Denene Millner: The Rules for Dating and Parenting
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40:04Sometimes our guests take us someplace unexpectedly wonderful, and we kick off Season 6 with a glorious episode with powerhouse Author Denene Millner. Denene is the author of the highly acclaimed novel, One Blood, as well as the The Sistah Rules, several books for young adults, and is the co-author of books with celebrities like Steve Harvey, Taraj…
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Round 6: Making the Turn: Late Nights and the Promise of Season Six
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17:23Friends, we recorded this episode the morning after our live anniversary bash, which brought back memories of Vegas benders, sleepless golf trips and other tales of debauchery from our wilder 20-something days. And those stories put into perspective our takes on relationships, personal growth and other reflections on meaningful middle age. Those pa…
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Round 5: The 19th Hole - Our First Anniversary Party Recorded LIVE
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1:00:36It's a party on The Back 9! Broadcasting live from Taco Tuesdays Taqueria in Delray Beach, Florida, as we invite several guests to celebrate our first anniversary, and close Season 5 in style. With our first ever live audience bringing the energy, this episode is packed with heartfelt reflections, hilarious moments, and inspiring stories. We update…
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Round 5: Ep. 18 - Award-Winning Podcaster Matt Gilhooly: Winning the Life-Altering Moments
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25:48In this powerful episode of The Back 9, Dennis and Josh wrap up Season 5 with an inspiring conversation featuring Matt Gilhooly, creator of the award-winning podcast The Life Shift. Matt takes us on an emotional journey, sharing how a life-altering moment in his childhood shaped his mission to uncover the pivotal moments that define all of us. From…
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Round 5: Ep. 17 – Community Builders Donna Taylor & Brittany Boo: Beating Burnout
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28:27In this very light episode, Dennis and Josh get to know Donna Taylor and Brittany Boo, hosts of the Talk Birdie to Me podcast, for a deep dive into the transformative power of community. Donna shares her story of growing up in a golfing family, burning out as a competitive player, and then deploying other passions – like yoga – to find a new approa…
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Round 5: Ep. 16 - Hockey legend Rob Ray: How to Set the Rules
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30:16In this special guest episode of The Back 9, Dennis surprises Josh with legendary tough guy and hockey leader Rob Ray. Razor reflects on his unique career, from scoring his first NHL goal to shaping a legacy that fits the blue-collar spirit of the fans that cheered him on. Beyond the fights and penalty minutes, Ray offers insight into his life afte…
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Round 5: Ep. 15 - Golf Legend Annika Sorenstam: Mentorship, Parenting and the Power of Passion
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31:31Ssssh! It's a surprise! It's the first of our secret guest episodes and we are starting with an ACE. It's a compelling conversation with the GOAT of Ladies Golf, Annika Sorenstam. Annika shares her transformation from childhood tennis prodigy to golfing superstar, as she reflects on her groundbreaking career, the importance of the mentors who guide…
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