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A podcast for creative entrepreneurs who want practical tips and strategies to build engaging brands and craft high converting websites. We’re your hosts Davey and Krista, cofounders of a brand + website design agency specializing in visual brand design and Showit + WordPress websites.
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It seems like much of the Western world is lost. The interesting trend over the last few years is that more and more people are working that out. More people have worked out that endless materialism and chasing things that never actually satisfy us aint it. So what’s the point of it all, anyway?
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Episode #43 - From Military to Faith, a Life of Service with Jeff Jones
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1:00:59A mutual contact on X reached out to me and recommended I get in touch with Jeff and I'm glad that I did. Jeff shares his journey from military service to civilian life, discussing the challenges and rewards of transitioning out of the military. He reflects on the connection between his faith and military values, the cultural shifts in attitudes to…
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Episode #42 - From Calvinist Pastor to Catholic Theologian: Dr. John Bergsma on the Church, the Kingdom, and the End of the World
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1:04:32🔥 Show Notes: In this powerhouse episode of What’s the Point Anyway, host Luke sits down with Dr. John Bergsma—renowned biblical scholar, convert, and senior fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology—for a theologically rich, deeply personal, and spiritually moving conversation. 🚨 You’ll hear: Dr. Bergsma’s journey from Dutch Calvinist pa…
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Episode #41 - Wading Through Christian Cults And Finding Peace with Catherine Gavin
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1:00:34Catherine is a fellow Aussie who I was connected to via our mutual friend and former guest, Rick Welch. Though we both have come to similar conclusions on our Biblical studies, we recorded this episode right after I'd converted to the Catholic Church and it was interesting to 'compare notes' given Catherine grew up Catholic but has arrived at a dif…
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Episode #40 - A walk through all the 'isms' with Ray Alex Williams
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1:23:07As I reach episode #40 in this series, I was fortunate enough to connect with Ray Alex Williams who may just be my most interesting guest yet. As the title suggests, this is an episode where we walk through just about every single 'ism' that you've ever heard of - and Ray has experienced all of them. Starting out in new atheism, then spending an de…
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Episode #39 - Finally Discussing the End Times with Todd from Naughty Vs Nice
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1:10:53Anyone who has listened to this show for a while would have heard me talk about how much I've wanted to bring a guest on who is a Christian that believes we're living in the end times. Well I finally got my wish, because Todd who hosts the Podcast Naughty Vs Nice reached out to me after we'd had some debate. he was a great guy and we had a really f…
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Episode 255 - How to Work Less, Make More, and Build a Scalable Service Based Business
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32:34In this episode of The Brands that Book Show, Davey sits down with Joe Sanok, author of Thursdays Are the New Friday and host of the Practice of the Practice podcast. Joe shares insights from his journey leaving a secure career in higher education to build a thriving counseling business, podcast, and consulting practice. As always, links and resour…
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Episode #38 - Davey Lloyd was a contestant on the Bachelor who died during a drug induced seizure, now he's rebuilding his life.
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1:42:02I heard Davey's story when he appeared on Behind the Smile with one of my former guests Ash Butterrs and was very keen to bring him on for a chat. I recognised Davey because I'd seen his face on TV - a 3 time contestant on the reality TV show The Bachelor, he'd spent his teens, 20's and early 30's partying hard as an archetypical modern male. Chasi…
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Episode #37 - The World of Gold & Silver with Eric Yeung
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1:00:27For as long as I can remember, I've always been interested in financial markets and it was actually in the process of studying this that I really started to get interested in broader things like history, philosophy and faith. Anyone who is a skeptic and studies finance ultimately ends up being very interested in gold - the shiny yellow rock that ha…
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Episode 254 - Maintaining a Successful YouTube Channel
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28:40In this episode of the Brands that Book Show, we sit down with content creator and educator LaShonda Brown for an honest, inspiring, and wildly practical conversation about what it really takes to maintain a successful YouTube channel. Known for her 20-hour workweek and her empowering approach to tech, LaShonda shares how she turned her years of co…
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Episode #36 - Politics, Patriotism, American Exceptionalism and Theology with Steve AKA the American Pirate
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1:38:45This conversation was a long time coming, with my guest someone who I had been told I had to get on the show quite some time ago and we've just struggled to line up schedules. Steve is someone who is the same as as me, but has lived a very full life - having spent time in prison in his early 20's after a long drug habit which became the turning poi…
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Episode #35 - Discussing Catholic Apologetics with Elijah Yasi
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1:07:33As guests who have been listening to recent episodes have noticed, I'm in the midst of a deep dive into Catholicism, so my guest today was a well renowned Catholic apologist Elijah Yasi. We started out by discussing how a Catholic faith impacts worldview and perspective on 'whats the point anyway' in a way which might be different to other Christia…
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Instagram is more than just pretty pictures—it's a powerful sales tool when used with intention. In this episode of the Brands that Book Show, Krista sits down with Abigail Peugh, a digital product expert and Instagram strategist, to talk about how she’s leveraged the platform not only to grow her business, but to create real revenue and community.…
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Episode #34 - Talking all things theology with my friend Chris Deguido
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1:28:02I became friends with Chris a couple of years ago and since that time, the two of us have constantly been bouncing ideas and questions off each other. Chris, like me, is a full preterist Christian so we are very aligned in our views but I'd like to think we both approach things with a high level of curiosity which means we're always challenging our…
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Episode #33 - Greg Chacon's tumultuous journey from being a teenage gangster to speaking in tongues & casting out demons
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1:50:19A few months ago a friend said to me that I need to reach out to this guy Greg Chacon, because he was a true unicorn in his theology with a crazy backstory. Greg lived as a gangster in his teenage years, getting kicked out of multiple schools and spending prolonged periods of time incarcerated. Then at 17 he began a journey of discover which ultima…
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Episode #32 - Jenn Guskin on life as a CT survivor who experienced Epstein Island
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42:37Not that you'd hear about it in the mainstream news, but there's been lots of chatter over the past month about the release of the 'Epstein files' so I wanted to bring someone on to the show who could talk about that. Jenn is a prominent voice online as a survivor of child sex trafficking and she was all too willing to share her story with me. Like…
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Episode 252 - How to Craft Your Unique Teaching Style
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31:53In today's episode, I'm chatting with my friend Laylee, about becoming an educator, and how to actually build authority as an educator. Laylee shares her thoughts on the importance of what you choose to share with your audience, and how to ensure that your message actually resonates with them. As always, links and resources can be found in the show…
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Episode #31 - Craig Harper from The You Project on the ever evolving nature of 'The Point'
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1:03:11Craig Harper is somewhat of a local legend in my hometown of Melbourne and a man who hosts my mum's favourite podcast - The You Project. So as any good son would do, I reached out to him to get him on the show. Craig Harper is a successful businessman, speaker and podcaster - his current project has a whopping 1,830 episodes! He has spoken to all s…
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Episode 251 - Finding Your Signature Style
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31:01In today's episode, I'm chatting with Genna Blackburn about finding your signature style. Whether you're a designer, artist or any kind of creative, I think you're going to find a lot of wisdom with Genna. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Deliver the right message, t…
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Episode #30 - How Jessica Ella went from believing there is no point to finding her purpose
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1:00:27A couple of months back I was chatting with a good friend of mine who listens to the show about any guests that I should try to bring on, and her immediate answer was to reach out to Jessica Ella. I'd never heard about Jess before, despite the fact that she lives locally but after listening to her story I agreed that I needed to chat to her! She's …
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Episode #29 - Delving into the Conspiracy World and Battle for Control with Jim Ateoi
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1:08:18I reached out to Jim Ateoi (an alias) to come on the podcast after I had been following him on X for some time and found his perspectives quite novel and interesting. Jim is a quintessential 'truther' and he's very focused on how the world of geopolitics and culture comes together, and he has strong views on the power structure that are the 'apex p…
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Episode #28 - Sean McMahon on how an agnostic half-Jewish free spirited musician became Catholic
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1:15:26After interviewing Mesh Mesha on this podcast several weeks ago, I've been fascinated by how a Protestant Christian can become a Catholic. Catholicism gets a bad wrap in general, but as a 'Bible believing Christian' I've held a particular negative view towards the institution - having written about its deceptions and even spoken about them on this …
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Episode 250 - How to Start a Podcast in 2025
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49:31Today's interview is with podcast expert, Jacob Bozarth, and when I say podcast expert, I mean it. We're chatting about what makes a podcast successful in 2025 and we hope you enjoy this interview. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Deliver the right message, to the ri…
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Episode #27 - Learning about perspective the hard way with Ryan Leaf
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59:41In 1998 Ryan Leaf was in contention to be the #1 pick in the NFL draft. In the end, Peyton Manning went 1 and Ryan Leaf went 2. Manning went on to become one of the most celebrated players in the games history, whereas Leaf was out of the game within 4 years and just over a decade later he spent several years in Montana state penitentiary. That jou…
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What's The Point Anyway - Growing up in Egypt and Becoming Catholic with Mesh Mesha
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1:23:10Unlike most of us in the West who grow up in a predominately Christian society, Mesh grew up in the minority Coptic community in the majority Muslim country of Egypt. When she came to Australia as an adult, it was her husbands search for faith that led her to truly question what was ultimately a cultural belief system. She spent many years as a 'ch…
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Episode 249 - The Importance of Building Connections
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37:18In today's episode, I'm chatting with Dr Miriam Kirmayer about the importance of building connections. Miriam is a clinical psychologist, friendship expert and influential speaker on human connection and social support. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Deliver the ri…
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What's The Point Anyway - What Dying Can Teach Us About Living With Sarah Kerr
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40:35My background is broad, but around 5 years ago with no prior experience I did something which might seem very unusual and became involved in the death industry when I co-founded a funeral business. It's been one of the most rewarding businesses that I've been involved in and one of the great lessons has been that death can teach us so much about li…
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What's The Point Anyway - From Fearing the End to Embracing the Now with Steve Magua
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1:16:40I sat down with the very charismatic Steve Magua from St Louis Missouri to get his perspectives on what the point is anyway. Steve grew up in the faraway land of Kenya, before migrating to America as an adult and becoming Christian at the age of 33. For many years, until as recently as 2019, he was preparing his family and followers for the 'end of…
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Episode 248 - Working Well with Your Spouse
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24:01We originally posted a blog on this topic back in 2017, but since having kids, our rhythms look a lot different. Today we're chatting about tips for improving our communication, the most important part of working together and marriage in general. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for y…
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What's The Point Anyway - Hashing Out Differences Over a Glass of Scotch with Nigel Taylor
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1:37:48In this engaging conversation, I sit down with Nigel Taylor to explore the complexities of faith, doubt, and personal belief. Nigel and I agree on a lot, but we disagree on lots too and often debate vigorously with each other. We decided that the best way to hash out these differences was over a glass of scotch and some honest conversation. We disc…
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Episode 247 - How to Set up Your Business for Financial Success in 2025
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51:08If organizing your business finances is on your to do list for the year, today’s episode is for you. I’m chatting with money expert, Shanna Skidmore, about how to set your business up for success this year. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Deliver the right message, …
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What's The Point Anyway - Jen Fishburne's Transition from Christianity to Atheism
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1:11:47In this conversation, Jen Fishburne shares her journey from a Christian upbringing to her eventual deconversion and exploration of what Luke described as existentialism. Jen returned to the Church in her 30's, then as she studied the Bible more she came to a preterist understanding and eventually an 'Israel Only' position, which is the idea that th…
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Episode 246 - Bringing Your Spouse on Full-Time
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24:00Today's conversation was inspired by an Instagram Live we recently did with Sophie Amelia Designs to chat about working together as spouses. We're breaking down the practical ways we planned for and transitioned Davey, from full time high school teacher to master marketer. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent…
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What's The Point Anyway - Gnostic Christianity, Self-Righteousness and Clearing the Logs From Our Eyes With Ward Fenley
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1:18:01In this conversation, Luke McInnes interviews Ward Fenley, exploring his background, family dynamics, and theological perspectives, particularly around preterism and the afterlife. Ward shares his personal journey of faith, the impact of his father's struggles with substance abuse, and how these experiences shaped his views on Christianity. The dis…
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What's The Point Anyway - What is Demonic Possession with Kirsten Barton, Stephen Long & Mike Miano.
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1:16:07Is there such thing as demons, and is demonic possession real? A former addict, satanist and gang member all give their diverse perspectives on a difficult topic! In this engaging roundtable discussion, Luke McInnes brings together three friends and past guests to explore the complex topic of demonic possession. Stephen Long, Mike Miano and Kirsten…
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Episode 245 - How to Use Online Quizzes to Grow Your Business
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14:29Online quizzes are one of the most effective ways to generate leads on your website. I'm sure you've taken one or at least seen one, probably in the past week. Interact makes it easy to create your own and today we're interviewing Josh Haynam, the CEO. Today’s episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up t…
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What's The Point Anyway - Homeschooling, Giants, Flat Earth, Short Seasons, Mudfloods and an Earth that Never Ends with Shelly Sangrey
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1:09:41In this conversation, Luke McInnes interviews Shelly Sangrey, a homeschooling mother of 11 and host of There's No Place Like Home, who shares her journey from traditional Lutheran upbringing to a more personal faith, her experiences with homeschooling, and her love of digging deeply into conspiracy theories. The discussion delves into the education…
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What's The Point Anyway - Navigating the Perfect Storm of False Prophecy from Talmudic Judaism, Christian Zionism & Islam with Mike Sullivan
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1:13:57In this conversation, Mike Sullivan, a Christian apologist, discusses his theological journey which began as a dispensational Bible College graduate and ended in full preterism. He explains the implications of his beliefs on the understanding of the Kingdom of God, spirituality, and the role of an apologist. The discussion also delves into the poli…
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Episode 244 - How to Survive a Business Downturn
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26:28Today's guest is Susie Bulloch of Hey Grill Hey, my absolute favorite for grilling, BBQing, smoking website. This is an interview I recorded while at Kit's Craft and Commerce event this year. This episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Use the code DAVEYANDKRISTA to save 20% on…
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What's The Point Anyway - Three Lifelong Friends Discuss The Point of Life with Josh Kennedy & Tomi Johnston (Part Two)
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1:18:04In this conversation, host Luke McInnes engages with two of his oldest and best friends Josh Kennedy and Tomi Johnston to explore the the big question what's the point anyway in a live conversation recorded over a few glasses of wine. They discuss how cultural reflections shape their views, the importance of relationships, and the evolving nature o…
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What's The Point Anyway - Three Lifelong Friends Discuss The Point of Life with Josh Kennedy & Tomi Johnston
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1:10:46In this conversation, host Luke McInnes engages with two of his oldest and best friends Josh Kennedy and Tomi Johnston to explore the the big question what's the point anyway in a live conversation recorded over a few glasses of wine. They discuss how cultural reflections shape their views, the importance of relationships, and the evolving nature o…
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What's The Point Anyway - A discussion on opposing views of the Nation of Israel with Jacob Fronczak
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1:15:25A little bit of background for listeners - I’ve had some vigorous debates on X with Jacob’s colleague Aaron Rich. We take a completely different interpretation on what the Bible says about Israel, and that has profound implications not only for doctrine but I’d also say it’s perhaps the most significant issue in the world right now with the Israel-…
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What's The Point Anyway - A Focus on Healthy Soil with Tim Martin
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1:17:51In this conversation, Tim Martin discusses the importance of relationships in various aspects of life, including family, business, agriculture and theology. He emphasizes that the biblical narrative centers around covenant relationships and critiques mainstream interpretations of scripture. Tim also explores the intersection of faith and agricultur…
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Episode 243 - Don't Let these Non-Verbal Cues Prevent You from Booking
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14:43Are you communicating silent cues on your website that deter potential clients from hitting that ‘Inquire’ or ‘Purchase’ button? In this episode, we share five key takeaways from Vanessa Van Edwards’ book Cues that you can directly apply to your website. Today's episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up…
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What's The Point Anyway - Coming Home to Yourself with Ash Butterss
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1:10:51In this conversation, Ash Butterss shares her transformative journey from addiction to recovery, emphasising the importance of self-discovery and personal growth. She reflects on her past struggles with substance abuse, the impact of her upbringing, and the defining moments that led her to seek change. Ash discusses the significance of family commu…
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What's The Point Anyway - Living to Love One Another with Rick Welch
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1:24:14Luke McInnes speaks with Rick Welch fresh after his experience with Hurricane Helene and the profound impact on his life and community. They explore themes of love, faith, suffering, and the importance of human connection in times of crisis. Rick shares his journey from apathy to a deeper understanding of faith, the struggles he faced with doubt, a…
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Episode 242 - The Secret to Doubling Your Business
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17:15This is a conversation you won't want to miss, with Bonnie Christine, as we chat about what it looked like to double her business, and what she's focused on to continue to grow it. Today's episode is sponsored by BDOW!, formerly Sumo, the very best intelligent form and pop-up tool for your website. Use the code DAVEYANDKRISTA to save 20% on your su…
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What's The Point Anyway - Zach Davis on Influencing Society Through Reconciliation with God
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1:06:37In this conversation, Zach Davis, a pastor and host of a popular YouTube channel, puts forward the idea that reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ is the point of all mans existence. He emphasizes the importance of a consistent Christian worldview in addressing contemporary issues, using racism and abortion as two such examples. Zach critiqu…
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What's The Point Anyway - The Sacred Tension of Seeking Answers and Accepting Mystery with Stephen Broadford Long
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1:19:35In this conversation, Luke McInnes and Stephen Long explore the complexities of spirituality, identity, and belief. Stephen shares his journey from Christianity, to trying to be a gay Christian, to the Satanic Temple and now to a more agnostic and open-minded perspective. They discuss the nature of belief, the importance of awe in understanding the…
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Episode 241 - Launching an Online Course / Digital Product
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29:34In this episode I get to chat with Dolly DeLong. Our conversation navigates the heart of what you really need to launch a successful digital product and I think it’s an episode you guys are really going to enjoy. As always, links and resources can be found in the show notes. Check ’em out at https://daveyandkrista.com/launching-online-course-digita…
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What's The Point Anyway - Eric LeMarque on Finding Redemption After Loss
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1:06:46Summary Eric LeMarque shares his incredible journey from being a professional athlete to surviving a life-threatening snowboarding accident that led to the loss of both his legs. He discusses the challenges he faced with addiction, the importance of redemption, and how his faith transformed his life. Eric emphasizes the significance of relationship…
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