The Waiting List Podcast is hosted by three watch geeks: Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum and Lung Lung Thun. We can‘t say we are the most knowledgeable collectors but one thing we do have is a passion to grow the watch community and bring positive vibes! Chill out while we discuss trending topics within the watch industry, interview collectors and have a bit of fun! Reach out to us via email at [email protected] and also our Instagram page @thewaitinglistpodcast.
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Revolution Watch Podcast is a podcast hosted by the editors at Revolution magazine, where we discuss all things related to watchmaking, watch collecting and design with the people who shape the industry.
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Another World is still Possible. The old system was never fit for purpose and now it has gone- and it's never coming back. We have the power of gods to destroy our home. But we also have the chance to become something we cannot yet imagine, and by doing so, lay the foundations for a future we would be proud to leave to the generations yet unborn. What happens if we commit to a world based on generative values: compassion, courage, integrity? What happens if we let go of the race for meaningl ...
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ReWilding our Horses, Rewilding our Souls with Kelly Wendorf of the EQUUS
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1:12:00How do we heal ourselves from the 'lost-ness' that afflicts our culture? How do we move on from the strange—and wholly untrue— belief our culture holds that we are separate from the natural world, that our cycles of exploitation, extraction, destruction, pollution are the way the world is, that this is the natural order and there's nothing we can d…
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Building the roots of a world that will work - with Victoria Hurth, co-author of Beyond Profit
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1:30:09'Each of us was put on this earth at this time to personally determine the fate of humankind. Do you think you were put here for something less?' Chief Arvol Looking Horse. We exist in a world where the ultra-rich are getting richer, powered by a system we call 'the economy' which is serving to funnel power and value up to an ever-shrinking core of…
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Of Beetles' wings and Brittlestars: using Biomimicry to co-create a flourishing future with Michael Pawlyn
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Let the Wild Gods Rise! Bridging Between the Worlds with Jackie Morris and Tamsin Abbott
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1:20:00Let the Wild Gods Rise. Easy to say and harder to do - but if you were offered a portal, a way to step into the other-worlds, to reconnect with all that we have been and could be, would you take it? If you're listening to this, you are likely steeped in the mechanical world of our culture - but it doesn't have to be like this. The other worlds are …
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The Magic in the Tales we Tell: Living new Stories in Service to Life with Paddy Loughman
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1:10:47How do the stories we tell ourselves and each other about ourselves, each other and our place in the web of life shape our world? How can we craft narratives that can shift the way we see and experience the world? Is this even the best leverage point to start off with or is there a deeper/wider/more effective acupuncture point we could explore as w…
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A Dawning Mind: Exploring the science of spirituality with Dr James Cooke
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1:19:28Why are we here? How do we think? What is the nature of life? What are the boundaries between ourselves and the rest of the living web—between ourselves and the rest of the universe across space and through time…and in the timeless, formless place from which everything arises? These are the big, foundational questions of our existence, and how we a…
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Step by Radical Step: The Route to a Flourishing New Economy with Colleen Schneider
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1:15:02Our western (Trauma Culture) economies run on two falsehoods - we might go so far as to call them lies. The first is that economies have to grow to be 'successful'. The second is that government spending is limited by the tax take. That is, they need to take money in as taxes in order to spend it out into the economy. Both of these are untrue, and …
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The Crisis and the Call: Journeys through Species-Wide Soul Initiation with Sara McFarland
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1:11:21As the old system is splitting apart, a few brave souls are already working to hospice this old system, acting as Death Doulas to the Great Dying—as well as helping people to awaken the seeds of a new world within. One of these is our guest this week. Sara McFarland is a Soul Initiation and Wild Mind Mentor and Guide, Artist of Consciousness and a …
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Dreams as a Way of Life - Becoming a Good Relative with author Hilary Giovale
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1:08:41Our Trauma Culture has spread across the globe with terrifying speed and ghastly efficiency. But the tide is turning and people of good heart in many nations are beginning to understand that what we need now is a move towards a 21st Century Initiation Culture. The language is often different, but at heart, this is where we need to go. Our guest thi…
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PopShift: Changing the global Narrative on all our screens with Romain Vakilitabar of Pathos Labs
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1:18:08We are a storied species: Everything we do arises from the stories we tell ourselves and each other about ourselves and each other and our relationship with the web of life. Our current polycrisis: the accelerating annihilation of our cultures and our biosphere arises out of a particular set of stories that tell us we're isolated individuals caught…
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Co-Evolving Humanity: Outgrowing Modernity with Vanessa and Giovanna Andreotti - and Tim Logan
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1:52:37In this week's podcast I was honoured to join a four-way conversation between Giovanna and Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti and Tim Logan of Future Learning Design Podcast, to celebrate the publication of Vanessa's new book, Outgrowing Modernity. Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti is author of Hospicing Modernity: Facing Humanity's Wrongs and the Implicati…
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From Darkness to Radiance: Lights On Learning with Julia Black
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1:20:09In the midst of the Great Transformation, one of the most exciting changes taking place is in our capacity to find what makes our hearts sing - to find our flow, to find what it is that we can do best, that we can do with all our hearts and souls—that leaves us radiant; that lets us lead with our Heart Minds, letting our Head Minds relax into servi…
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Otterly Amazing! Common Sense Farming can feed us all with Charlie Bennett
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1:23:47“In a world where our wildlife is becoming extinct at a frightening rate, we are setting up an oasis where animals, wild flowers and even ancient fungi can thrive.” Charlie Bennett writing of Middleton North Farm. It's clear to most of us that the existing food and farming system is unsustainable. What's less clear is what to do about it, particula…
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Be like Water: Becoming Nature Again with the River Dôn Project and Jonny Douglas
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1:29:30Water is our lifeblood and Clean Water (along with Clean Air and Clean Soil) is one of our core Three Asks, the non-negotiable baselines that underpin a flourishing future for people and life on our planet. Getting there, means everyone beginning to care at a bone-deep level, way beneath our conscious minds and having a sense of how we might get th…
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People's Charter for People Power - with Katy Rubin and Oli Whittington of Our House
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1:18:13We know that our 'democracy' is, in fact, a kleptocracy that is not fit for purpose IF that purpose is the continuation of complex life on earth. The sociopaths who have stolen control show no signs of shifting to something that works, so it's way past time that ordinary people across all walks of life embraced the tools of participatory democracy …
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Dancing the Path of the Inner Warrior with Diarmuid Lyng of Wild Irish Retreats
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1:24:44We're on the edge of a cliff and the way out is through - through the obfuscations and extractive values and downright lies of predatory capitalism. Through to authenticity, and integrity and finding language for how we can be who we really are, what our souls yearn to be. And that language is not always English. This week's guest, Diarmuid Lyng, s…
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Still In the Eye of the Storm: Finding Calm and Stable Roots with Dan McTiernan of Being EarthBound
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1:20:10Our priority now is to find -and then embody - a sense of grounded stability, a sense of safety, a sense of embodied connection to the Web of Life... This is the single most important thing we can be doing to create a world we'd want to leave behind, and this week's guest, Dan McTiernan, is one of those who is leading courses, trainings and embodie…
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Sit with the River, Breathe Sacred Smoke, Love with the World: Building a Bioregional world with Joe Brewer
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1:21:01How can Bioregionalism supplant the nation state as the natural unit of civilisation? Joe Brewer is living, breathing and teaching the ways we can work together with each other and the natural flows of water and life. We know that the current paradigm is breaking apart in real time, but how do we become the light that shines through the cracks? How…
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Solstice Meditation 2025 - Sun Stands Still - by Manda Scott
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22:42Here is a meditation for the Solstice – the moment when the sun stands still. It is suitable for Summer and Winter solstice. You don't have to do this at the exact moment of stillness: it’s the connection that counts, the marking of the turning point from days lengthening to shortening (or vice versa if you’re in the southern hemisphere). This is a…
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Thoughts from the Solstice Edge: Turning the Page on a Dying System with Manda Scott
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27:00As we head into the solstice- that moment when the sun stands still—whether you're in the northern hemisphere where we have the longest day, or the southern, where it's the longest night—this solstice feels like a moment of transformation. The world is turning over, turning a page. The old system is visibly—palpably—breaking apart. A new system wil…
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Falling in Love with the Future - with author, musician, podcaster and futurenaut, Rob Hopkins
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1:18:42Our guest this week, Rob Hopkins, is a towering figure in the world of regenerative change. Co-founder of Transition Network and of Transition Town Totnes, he is host of the podcast 'From What if to What Next', stars in the groundbreaking French film 'Demain', speaks at TED Global and TEDx events and most recently, has created a collaborative music…
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ReWilding our Water: From Rain to River to Sewer and back with Tim Smedley, author of The Last Drop
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1:34:05If you listen to this podcast for any length of time, you'll know that I believe the way forward is predicated on our finding shared values—I'd go for integrity, compassion, courage and generosity of spirit as the baselines—and then a suite of clear asks in the outer world and needs in the inner world. In logistical terms, at an absolute baseline, …
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This is how we build the future: Teaching Regenerative Economics at all levels with Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann
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1:20:48How do we let go of the sense of scarcity, separation and powerlessness that defines the ways we live, care and do business together? How can we best equip our young people for the world that is coming - which is so, so different from the future we grew up believing was possible? This week's guest, Jennifer Brandsberg-Engelmann is an educator, rege…
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Brilliant Minds: BONUS podcast with Kate Raworth, Indy Johar & James Lock at the Festival of Debate
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1:53:10We are honoured to bring to Accidental Gods, a recording of three of our generation's leading thinkers in conversation at the Festival of Debate in Sheffield, hosted by Opus. This is an unflinching conversation, but it's absolutely at the cutting edge of imagineering: this lays out where we're at and what we need to do, but it also gives us roadmap…
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Farm as Church, Land as Lover: Community. farming and food with Abel Pearson of Glasbren
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1:16:50We all know the future rests upon us building heart-grounded, spirit-led communities that link humanity to the Web of Life. We know that the key to this is building reciprocal relationships with our food and the land from which it comes. Doing this is…harder. So this week, we're speaking with Abel Pearson of Glasbren. Abel is a friend of the podcas…
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Working from the Inside Out: Paths to Personal and Global Transformation with Renée Lertzman
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1:09:54We've known for decades that the 'Yell, Tell and Sell' strategy of belittling people, endeavouring to cajole—or shame—them into some kind of change doesn't work - in fact it can't work. It's not how we're wired. Cognitive neuroscience has been telling us this for decades but it's only recently that people have begun to listen. One of those who has …
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The Others Within Us: Meeting our Spirit Guides and other entities with Bob Falconer
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1:11:31Our world is more magical than we know - more than we can know. Increasing numbers of us are realising that the 'citadel theory of mind' where we see ourselves as isolated units within the boundaries of our own skulls is not how the world works. But if it isn't, then how do we make sense of the worlds beyond consensus reality? How do we engage with…
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Radical Change: Building a Parallel Economy with Peter Kemp of Citizen Coin
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1:20:14We are living through a time between stories—where the old economic narratives of scarcity, extraction, and separation are crumbling, and a new one is seeking to be born. At the heart of this transition is the question: What do we truly value, and how do we express that value in ways that nourish life? Imagine a society where every act of care, con…
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Beyond Zero Sum: Rehumanising our Conflicts with Carm Aufderheide of NorthStar Training Solutions
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1:35:41All flourishing is mutual, that's a given. And yet the schisms in our culture, the tribal divides and limbic hijack seem to grow deeper and more powerful by the day. It doesn't have to be like this. We do have the tools of connection, of genuine listening, of offering trust to gain trust and offering respect to gain respect, we just need to know ho…
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Red Pill/Blue Pill, Green Pill/True Pill – Creating a Media Commons with Debs Grayson of Opus Independents
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1:24:28Our legacy - or status quo - media is owned and run by billionaires for billionaires and the stories they promote are the ones that will keep us all in line. How do we shift the global narrative towards a future of mutual flourishing? It is axiomatic of this podcast that stories – the good and the bad – are what got us to where we are. We are a sto…
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How to Save the World - tipping points of social diffusion with Katie Patrick of Hello World Labs
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1:18:42'If you're not changing the numbers, you're not changing the world.' So says this week's guest, Katie Patrick. Katie Patrick is a Silicon Valley based environmental engineer, climate action designer, and author of How to Save the World: How to Make Changing the World the Greatest Game We've Ever Played, now taught in Harvard University’s graduate p…
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Bonus: Thoughts from the Edge - If the current system is not fit for purpose, what's our core response?
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35:02Suppose we accept that the current system is not broken - it is doing what it was always designed to do - which is to shovel wealth and power from the many to the few at a human scale and from the more-than-human world to the industrial/technical maw of predatory capitalism at an ecological scale. This is a death cult and it is in its death throes,…
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Wellbeing: It’s about wholeness, not happiness - with Dr Mark Fabian, author of Beyond Happy
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1:48:00We grow up thinking we want to be happy (or at least, not-sad). But happiness isn't enough. What we need is wellbeing, and as Dr Mark Fabian quotes in the dedication to his book, Beyond Happy, "Wellbeing is about wholeness, not happiness, and wholeness is so much more demanding than happiness.' So what is wholeness, and what does it demand of us? A…
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#232-Watches and Wonders 2025 - Jac, Dan, Lung
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56:49Watches and Wonders 2025!By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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A Longing for Belonging: Shifting the Cultural Paradigm with Looby Macnamara and Leona Johnson
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1:23:58If we are in the midst of the Great Derangement (thank you Amitav Ghosh), what tools do we have to help us shape a system that is actually fit for purpose? Who are our elders and what can they teach us? How do we learn to listen to our heart's (and hearts') desire and shape the communities of place, passion and purpose that will allow us to emerge …
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Now Then! Building networks of citizen power with James Lock of Opus in Sheffield
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1:14:32We all know the current system of predatory capitalism is not fit for purpose. We don't (yet) all agree on how to fix it, but for sure, no problem is solved from the mindset that created it. So how do we begin to compost the debris of the failing system to grow something constructive, generative, connected communities that can act as a bridge from …
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Be More Hawk! Being the courage to follow what's right with Rachel Musson of ThoughtBox Education
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1:13:58The old systems are no longer fit for purpose. What does an education system look like that's fit for the twenty-first century - where we put self care, people care, earth care at the heart of what we do? This week's guest, Rachel Musson, has made it her life's work to fashion ways of learning for all ages that put this Triple Wellbeing principle i…
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Miraculous Carbon: Celebrating the Book of Life, Death and Potential with author Paul Hawken
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1:22:37How do we step past the magical thinking of the elites that says we can either use AI to 'Solve for Climate' - or just ignore the entire climate and ecological emergency completely? This week's guest, Paul Hawken, has been at the forefront of intelligent responses to the entire meta-crisis for decades. He has been profiled or written in hundreds of…
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#231- Ep 2 The Waiting Room- Anxiety
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1:00:46In this episode, we talk about one of the most common mental disorders- anxiety.By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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Authentically human: celebrating the magic of life with Mark McCartney of the 'What is a Good Life' podcast
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1:19:37In these turbulent times, what values most strongly underpin our humanity and how can we nurture our relationships with all parts of ourselves, with ourselves and other people and with ourselves and the web of life? This week's guest is another podcaster. Mark McCartney is host of the 'What is a Good Life' podcast, which is now into well over 100 e…
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#230-"I tend to go to auctions because that is the place with the most rare watches" - Karen Hung, Watch Enthusiast/Writer
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1:08:13On this episode, we speak to Karen @watch_garden_kh about how she got into watches, how she became a writer, and how she learned about FP Journe before Rolex.By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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Seeing the Bigger Picture: psychedelics and sense-making with Alexander Beiner of Kainos
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58:41How do we shed the shackles of modernity and step into a new set of stories that could help us grow into the fullness of our potential? Alexander Beiner is one of a small band of people in our culture who is shaping the cutting edge of possibility, crafting new ideas of who we are, at the deepest levels of our Self and out into the widest view of o…
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On the first episode of our mini series on mental health, we introduce you to our resident co host "Uncle".By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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Becoming Spiritual Warriors: exploring a politics of radical Compassion with Jamie Bristow
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1:38:01In a world of turmoil where the only certainty is uncertainty, what happens if we who yearn for a future we'd be proud to leave behind began really to speak the quiet part out loud? What happens if we acknowledge the meaning crisis of our culture and state clearly that we need a world based on Love: on the raw, wild, wonder of life itself? And what…
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#228-"There is nobody more snobbish than Parisians"- Gautier Massonneau, Founder of Trilobe watches
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1:06:47On this episode we interview Gautier on the history of the brand, his inspiration, and his vision for the Company and why it is important to stick to the brand's core principles.By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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Kin-centric Rewilding 2 - Bonus - continuation of the conversation with Daniel Firth Griffith
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54:04Daniel remains one of the few people I know who is originally of the Trauma Culture but is living absolutely integral to his land - and we couldn't keep our conversation confined to 60 minutes. So we broke at an appropriate point and came back. This is the second part - please do listen to the first if you've only just found us - we literally pause…
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Kin-centric Rewilding - restoring relationship to the land and ourselves with Daniel Firth Griffith, author of StagTine
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1:42:15By now we know that we need to connect to the More than Human world. We know we need to grow into adulthood and elder hood. We know we need to move from a Trauma Culture to an Initiation Culture. But knowing these things is not the same as living them as a reality. To get here, we need waymakers, people of huge heart and raw courage to walk away fr…
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Find the Others! Beyond the Death of Democracy lies Citizen Power - with Jon Alexander of the Citizen Collective
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1:17:01Democracy is breaking around us in real time and a small percentage of those in power would like us to become - at best - obedient subjects in a world dedicated to the destruction of ecosystems and the annihilation of compassion, empathy and all that makes us thrive. Clearly, we are better than this. So how can we harness the astonishing wonder of …
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#227-Happy CNY! - Dan, Jac, Lung Lung
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1:03:19We're back! Happy CNY, Gong Xi Fa Cai everyone!By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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