The fashion of technology and the technology of fashion. Hosted by Dan Frommer and Lauren Sherman.
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Dan Frommer Podcasts
Talking about AI doesn’t have to feel like the end of the world. Join Rich Ziade, Paul Ford, and their guests as they discuss how AI is changing software development, business strategy—and everything else. New episodes every Tuesday.
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The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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In Creative Independents, your hosts Si Willmore and Jen Matichuk will speak to successful and passionate entrepreneurs, who have won in the creator economy. They’ll explore the philosophies of these business owners who enjoy the freedom to do what they love, and the fulfillment that comes from knowing others support their work. Are you seeking insights from experts who have created ethical and successful independent businesses? Then you’ll love Creative Independents, a podcast by Memberful.
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AI is transforming what we buy—and how we buy it. On the final podcast of the year, Paul and Rich are joined by Dan Frommer, founder of The New Consumer, to talk through his brand-new Consumer Trends Report for 2026. First, they discuss shifting consumer dynamics over the past few decades, from the rise of digital-native direct-to-consumer brands t…
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437: ‘A Naughty Citizen’, With Quinn Nelson
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2:28:52Special guest Quinn Nelson returns for a two-topic holiday spectacular: the iPad in the wake of iPadOS 26, and Apple's executive changes as Tim Cook seemingly nears the end of his time as CEO. Sponsored by: Notion: The AI workspace where teams and AI agents get more done together. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain…
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Is there space for everyone in LLM world? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich traverse the always-changing AI landscape from one end of the spectrum to the other. First, the Christian LLM company Gloo, currently headed by former Intel CEO Patrick Gelsinger, which is building technologies for the “faith ecosystem.” Then, Sam Altman’s recent announ…
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Max Read: Reporting on the Big, Bad Internet
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34:29AI is reshaping the media, the internet, and the culture at large—and Max Read is writing about it. On this week’s podcast, the longtime journalist and author of the popular “Read Max” newsletter comes into the studio to talk about the intersections of tech and culture in our current AI moment. Topics discussed include Max’s journey from a general-…
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436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes
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1:35:52Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations. Sponsored by: Clic for Sonos: No lag. No hassle. Just Clic. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code …
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435: ‘Lincoln Bio Services’, With Stephen Robles
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1:18:41Special guest Stephen Robles joins the show. Topics include indie media and YouTube, Shortcuts and automation, and the state of podcasting. Sponsored by: Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts, great for the holidays. Save 15% off your next purchase after following that link. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: Stephen goes ind…
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434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer
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1:54:02Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years of Dan’s site, The New Consumer. Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off your f…
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The AI industry teeters on the edge of the bubble, but AI tools are better than ever. What does this mean for the future of the technology? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich talk through Paul’s recent experiments with—you guessed it!—synths to illustrate just how good AI-assisted coding tools have gotten, especially for those with programming e…
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As people feed their whole lives into LLMs, how can they protect themselves? On this week’s Aboard Podcast, Paul and Rich are joined by Arushi Saxena, a trust and safety expert who’s worked everywhere from big tech to startups to the U.S. government. What does trust and safety mean in the AI age, both for individuals and for companies working with …
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Big tech doesn’t care about medium-sized businesses—but is AI really the solution? On this week’s podcast, Paul is fresh off the plane from Phoenix, Arizona, where he was speaking to business owners at the Inc. 5000 Conference. As he gives Rich a full report, they discuss the specific needs of the “SMB”—small-to-medium-sized business—and how little…
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433: ‘Meat Bags’, With Brian Mueller
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1:27:40Special guest Brian Mueller, developer of Carrot Weather, joins the show to commemorate the 10th anniversary of his utterly ridiculous but totally serious weather app. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Uncommon Goods: Out of the ordinary gifts. Get 15% off your next purchase. Tra…
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AI is making job hunting near-impossible on both sides of the hiring equation. Is there a way out of this automated mess? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich look at AI’s effect on an already unpredictable job market. Hirers are getting spammed with AI-generated applications, while sincere job seekers are getting swiftly rejected via AI hiring to…
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432: ‘You and Frank Sinatra’, With Dan Moren
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2:08:39Dan Moren returns to the show. Topics include Atlas, ChatGPT's new web browser (or anti-web browser) for the Mac; Apple's loss in a "landmark" regulatory lawsuit in the UK regarding App Store commission rates; multiple reports of poor sales for the iPhone Air; and Apple's M5 product announcements: MacBook Pro, iPads Pro, and Vision Pro. Sponsored b…
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Traffic to vibe-coding tools is plummeting. Financial analysts are invoking 1929. Is the big AI crash inevitable? On the latest Aboard Podcast, Paul and Rich assess our current moment in AI and its (over)valuation in the global economy. Will the bubble pop—and if it does, how big will that pop be? And as they evaluate the problems with our lopsided…
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AI videos from tools like OpenAI’s Sora and Meta’s Vibes are flooding our feeds. Is this the future? On the Aboard Podcast, Paul and Rich tackle a trio of AI topics. First: They look at a report from the Yale Budget Lab on which industries are adopting AI the fastest. (Spoiler: Only one is fully embracing it. Take a guess!) Then, they talk about sp…
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431: ‘Iconic Pig Lipstick’, With John Moltz
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1:13:04John Moltz returns to the show to talk about the iPhone 17 lineup: the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max, iPhone 17, and the no-number iPhone Air. Not one word about baseball, but some Star Wars talk may or may not have snuck in. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Sentry: A real-time erro…
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The big tech CEOs are openly embracing Trump—so what do we all do now? On this week’s Aboard Podcast, Paul and Rich dig into Steven Levy’s recent cover story for WIRED’s politics issue that breaks down the industry’s hard pivot towards Trumpism. What did these leaders think they were signing up, and what are they actually getting? Plus: By way of m…
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The Aboard Podcast is about software in the age of AI—but what non-AI things are happening in the world of software? Not much, Paul and Rich are sorry to report. In the first half of this week’s episode, they discuss how AI is sucking up all the tech oxygen in the room. Then, they pivot to talking about AI and kids: What should parents be teaching …
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Will AI put an end to management consulting? Maybe hold off on writing that McKinsey obituary for now. On the podcast, Paul and Rich break down the different kinds of consulting on a practical level, and assess what AI might mean for that work going forward. Can these companies really get away with charging the same rates if AI lets them reduce hea…
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Millions of people are using AI tools to search—so what does that mean for search engines? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich dive into (the questionably named) “GEO,” or Generative Engine Optimization. After an overview of Google’s classic model, they explore the ways AI is currently upending the search world, and speculate about what might eme…
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How should the business leaders of the future think about AI? On this week’s podcast, Paul and Rich are joined by Matt Seitz, the Director of the AI Hub for Business at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Business. Matt discusses his journey from years at Google to his current role at UW, and he gives on-the-ground insight into the AI struggles…
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430: ‘Ersatz PopSocket’, With Andru Edwards
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2:18:29Special guest Andru Edwards joins the show. Topics include Google’s Pixel 10 event and the Pixel 10 family of devices, AI’s effect on computational photography, foldable phones, and some speculation on Apple’s September 9 “Awe Dropping” event. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Se…
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Aboard uses AI to help build software, but in just a few years, AI will gain sentience and take over our work, personal lives, and even brains—just kidding! Yes, the fourth and final installment of “AI Summer School” is about AGI, or “Artificial Generalized Intelligence.” What does it mean? Can anyone agree on a definition? And if no one can define…
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429: ‘Weird Turtle Fake Out’, With Matthew Panzarino
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2:13:44Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include 007 logo creator Joe Caroff’s death at 103, Google’s weird “Made by Google” event hosted by Jimmy Fallon, the UK supposedly dropping its demand for an iCloud encryption backdoor, and Apple’s workaround for the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor patent stalemate. Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% …
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So now that you’ve set up your AI agents, what can you build with them? In the third lesson of AI Summer School, Paul and Rich are joined by CTO Adam Pash to spin up a sample app in Aboard. How do agents work together to simulate the development process—and what’s the difference between Aboard’s structured approach and a vibe-coding tool? Plus: Int…
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“Agents” are a big marketing term for AI companies right now—but how do they actually work? In the second installment of AI Summer School, Paul and Rich are joined by Aboard Director of Engineering Kevin Barrett, who breaks down what “agent” actually means, and how they function within the platform. Plus: In the process of demoing Aboard’s agent ca…
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AI Summer School #1: How LLMs (Don’t) Think
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30:57Feel a little lost when it comes to AI? It’s time to go back to school—Aboard’s AI Summer School! Over the month of August, Paul, Rich, and a few special guests will break down the basics of LLMs, agents, AGI, and a host of other AI-related topics. In the first installment, they discuss how LLMs think—or rather, don’t think—and compare the major pl…
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428: ‘Michigan-Starred Fine Dining’, With Louie Mantia
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3:05:39Special guest Louie Mantia joins the show to talk about Liquid Glass, the various OS 26 updates, and the worrisome state of Apple’s UI design overall. Also: sandwiches. Sponsored by: Quip: A supercharged clipboard manager and text expander for Mac, iPhone, and iPad. Notion: The best AI tool for work, with your notes, docs, and projects in one space…
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Mapping the history of the universe—and the limits of current AI programming tools. On this week’s podcast, Paul walks Rich through his recent experiments trying to build timeline software via vibe coding. Spoiler: There were issues. Halfway through 2025, where do the current tools excel, and where do they fall flat? And looking over the few years …
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