Two founders share an unedited look at what it's like to bootstrap a startup through weekly updates. Chris Spags is the founder of Jetboost, a suite of no-code plugins for Webflow. Corey Haines is the founder of Swipe Files, a membership site for marketers built with no-code tools. They chronicle their journeys getting to and staying "default alive": profitable, self-sustaining, with infinite runway.
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Chris Spags | JetBoost, Software Development, Webflow, Scaling and Selling a Business
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51:20Find out more about Chris → https://cspags.com/ Find out more about the podcast here → https://jackvaughan.com Today, I’m speaking with Chris Spags, a software developer and the founder of JetBoost. I was involved in a project with Chris a few years back and recently found out that he's just sold JetBoost, a very popular suite of tools in the Webf…
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Twisha Patni | Buck, Multidisciplinary Design, Process, Illustration Systems and Google Gemini
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1:03:13Learn more about Twisha at https://www.twishapatni.com Learn more about the podcast at https://jackvaughan.com Today, I’m speaking with Twisha Patni, an Art Director & Graphic Designer. She’s worked with brands such as Apple, Spotify, Netflix, NYTimes, The Economist, and is now at Buck. We spoke about — Being multidisciplinary — How she’s developed…
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Tom Parkes | Web & Brand, Design as Art, Communication, Sensitivity & Receptivity
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1:38:06Learn more about Tom at https://www.tparkes.com Learn more about the podcast at https://jackvaughan.com Today I’m speaking with Tom Parkes - a Web+Brand designer. Tom’s worked at both agencies such as Instrument, Justified Studio, MetaLab, and freelanced for companies such as Airbnb, Microsoft and he’s now at Glide - where I work - leading web & br…
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Chase Goulet | Product Design, Minecraft, Architecture, The Art of Learning, AI and Creativity
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1:17:17Today I'm speaking with Chase Goulet, a product designer and former professional Minecraft builder. Find out more about Chase → https://chasegoulet.com/ Find out more about the podcast here → https://jackvaughan.com We talked about: - Failure, mindset, and the art of learning - Minecraft, architecture, and his road to product design - His colle…
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Greg Stewart | Ordinary Folk, The Bible Project, Technical Animation, Motion Design, Art Direction, Cavalry
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2:02:08Find out more about Greg → https://www.jdgstewart.co/ Find out more about the podcast here → https://jackvaughan.com Today, I’m speaking with Greg Stewart—one of the founding members of Ordinary Folk and now Lead Animator at the Bible Project. I’ve known about Greg for a long time, as Ordinary Folk are without doubt my favourite motion design st…
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Abdoulaye Barry | LinkedIn, Dubai, Marketing, Motion Tools, Freelancing
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54:11Find out more about Abdoulaye → https://barrymotion.com/work Find out more about the podcast here → https://jackvaughan.com Today, I’m speaking with Abdoulaye Barry, a Motion Designer and Teacher. I've been aware of Abdoulaye’s work for a little while now and wanted to get him on to catch up about his work, his approach to marketing in the motion w…
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Coralie Delpha | Shopify, Freelance Development, Community, Mentors, and Learning to Code
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1:55:09Today I’m speaking with Coralie Delpha — a lead technical architect at Shopify. Coralie is a lovely, calm and curious individual. And very well regarded in her community — i’ve known her for a while and was really interested to catch up and dive deeper into her work, the Shopify ecosystem and more. We spoke about her journey in law, business school…
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Maria Cruz | 2D Motion, Art Direction, Experiments, Music & Motion, Cavalry, UI Animation
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1:54:49Today I'm speaking with Maria Cruz, an artist, animator & motion designer. Maria’s worked with big companies like Google, Netflix, Apple, Sony… as well as top studios like Hornet, Odd Fellows, Buck, and now Hook. We spoke about many things: Early creativity and childhood ways of seeing Art direction, connection, inspiration, curiosity, and breaking…
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Adam Plouff | Battleaxe, Overlord, Motion Development and After Effects Tools
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1:52:36Find out more about Adam‘s work at https://battleaxe.co/
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Arie Stavchansky | Dataclay, Data Driven Video, Automation, Adobe, and AI Video
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1:35:23Today, I’m speaking with Arie Stavchansky, CEO and Founder of Dataclay. Dataclay is a company that develops software for motion designers and video professionals focused on data-driven video. Although this concept has existed for a while, it's not that widely known, but understanding data driven video and it’s interaction with AI is going to become…
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Matt Perry | Framer, Motion, and the Future of Web Animation
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1:14:30Today I'm speaking with Matt Perry, creator of some of the most used web motion libraries in the world. His work has transformed how developers bring interactivity and smooth animations to the web. For the last 6 years he’s been at Framer, building Framer Motion — and he’s just taken that independent as a new project — Motion. I've been wanting to …
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Hayley Akins | Motion Hatch & Marketing for Creatives
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29:55Hayley Akins is the founder of Motion Hatch, a school that helps motion designers and creatives grow their business. Hayley is one of the originals in this space. She's been active since 2017 and has helped many people in the industry. I wanted to bring her on to discuss marketing, how it's evolving for creatives, and how to effectively connect wit…
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Imsety Taylor | Creativity, Motion, Tech, Set Angle, and Being Multidisciplinary
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1:19:16Imsety Taylor is a creator, motion designer, and founder of Set Angle — a web and motion agency. He’s worked with brands like Ford and Keller Williams and collaborated with studios like Ravie. I identify a lot with Imsety — although I'm probably not as talented. He’s got a deep love of being creative in four mediums that we share: animation, techno…
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Ian Waters | Cavalry, Conceptual Design, and Building Motion Tools
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1:26:40Today I’m speaking with Ian Waters - CTO of Cavalry. This is a really fascinating and quite technical conversation about designing motion tools. Cavalry is a relatively young Motion Design tool with a really talented team. And to be building a new motion design tool at this time is really interesting… Motion design is still young and it’s a paradig…
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Oscar Brooks — CEO at V88: Glide, No-Code, AI Component, & a New Breed of Software Developer
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1:10:47Today I’m speaking with Oscar Brooks, co-founder and CEO of V88. V88 is one of the leading Glide agencies. They've built hundreds of applications and scaled incredibly quickly in the last year, mostly due to their talent and personality, but also because it’s just a really interesting time at Glide right now. So I wanted to get Oscar on to help exp…
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Wes Cockx - Creative Director and 3D Artist: Microsoft, Deep Mind, Rendering, and Creative Experiments.
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1:08:58Today on the podcast, I’m speaking with Wes Cockx (@wes_cream), creative director and 3D designer. Wes is one of my favorite 3D artists and has worked for Microsoft, Deepmind, Apple, Meta, Google, Github and more. We spoke about his early experiences in 3D, rendering, his creative process, experiments, working with different clients and much much m…
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Today on the podcast, I’m speaking with Isaac Gili (@isaacgili), CEO and co-founder of Shuffll — an AI Studio for Video Creators. We talked a lot about Shuffll, the tech behind it and the future vision for making video marketing & production more accessible and scaleable. Please reach out if you have comments, guest-suggestions, or feedback. @jackm…
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Evan Abrams | Motion Designer & Educator
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1:44:26Today on the podcast, I’m bringing you Evan Abrams (@ECAbrams), motion designer and educator, renowned for his expertise in After Effects. We discussed communication skills, the process of idea render, design concepts, tools, the art of learning AI's future role in the industry and much, much more. Please reach out if you have comments, guest-sugge…
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Yann-Edern Gillet | Software Designer at Linear
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59:31Learn more at → https://jackvaughan.com Yann’s Website → https://yannglt.com Yann-Edern is a software designer and maker based in Paris, focused on developer experience. He’s currently working at Linear and most recently contributed to the new UI of the desktop app. He previously worked at Specify, where he contributed to creating a Design API …
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Today I’m bringing you Tristan L’Abbé, a product designer and head of design at Glide. We talk about design tools, paradigms, the evolution of web & native, Tristan’s background in design & engineering, the role of constraint in creativity, the way your tools impact your work and thinking process, and a look at the process and craft of product desi…
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In this episode I speak with Andy Claremont, who's head of community and ecosystem at Glide. We talk about the early days of discovering online communities in our youth and his journey from community member to community professional. We also talk about the state of no code, its relation to AI and where the space is going.…
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#008 Kyle Hamrick | Motion Designer
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1:18:00Kyle Hamrick is a creative and technical director, motion designer, video editor, and Adobe Certified educator. Despite its youth, motion design is a vast and continually expanding field. I was eager to restart this podcast with an overview of it from Kyle's perspective. Show notes at: https://jackvaughan.com/posts/008-kyle-hamrick…
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Corey and Chris are bringing the podcast to an end. They discuss why, where things are at today, and what to look out for in the future. Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags
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Corey shares some learnings on startup taxes. Chris shares how the recent growth of the Jetboost team is going and what he’s learning from that. They also discuss SaaS team account architecture, user onboarding email sequences, churn trends in 2023, and of course, they have to talk about ChatGPT. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Andrew from Fl…
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Corey and Chris talk about their goals, themes, and big projects for the new year. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: SwipeWell Product Hunt launch More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spags…
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Corey and Chris look back on the past year’s highlights, lowlights, and learnings. Ask us a question → Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags
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Corey is working on co-marketing campaigns for SwipeWell. Chris is back from Webflow Conf and shares everything that happened at the event! They also discuss some of the unique aspects of the Calm Fund SEAL agreement. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Webflow Conf Announcements Webflow Apps Reilly Chase’s tweet Tyler Tringas’s tweet More podcas…
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Corey recaps the SaaS Marketing Summit and State of SaaS Marketing report. Chris is wrapping up his final prep before Webflow Conf next week. They also talk about AI, newsletter sponsorships, and SwipeWell mobile apps. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Webflow Conf Agenda Corey’s AI generated profile pictures SaaS Marketing Summit recording Sta…
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Corey hits a big newsletter subscriber milestone. Chris gets back from vacation and officially launches the Jetboost blog. They also talk about playing the waiting game with SEO, Webflow Conf, and SwipeWell’s public roadmap. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: SwipeWell Public Roadmap SaaS Marketing Summit on October 12th Jetboost Blog More podca…
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76 | 2-year anniversary listener Q&A
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1:25:04Corey and Chris answer listener questions live on the podcast to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of publishing. They cover how they spend their time, favorite tools, what success looks like, the highs and lows of the journey, and more. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Grain Mailman ZipMessage Manifest Destiny blog post More podcasts for boots…
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Corey integrates a new newsletter growth tool for Swipe Files and ships a new landing page for SwipeWell. Chris is still celebrating recent wins while pondering the future of Jetboost. They also talk about Chrome web store SEO, “Two Way Write Ups,” and product evolution. Next week is a Q&A episode to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of the podcast.…
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Corey prepares to roll out waitlist invites for SwipeWell. Chris shares what he learned while setting Jetboost up to hire full-time employees instead of contractors. They also discuss Google’s upcoming search update, programmatic SEO, and useful SEO tools. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Above Board podcast Startup to Last podcast PageFactory…
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Corey launches a programmatic content experiment on Product Hunt and starts planning the Swipe Files Summit. Chris moved to Chicago and made two new hires! They also talk about a new SaaS project and Webflow Conf. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Retext More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures S…
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Corey builds a mobile app MVP using the no-code tool Adalo. Chris is continuing to push out small UX updates for Jetboost while preparing for his big move across the country. They also talk about new onboarding flows for SwipeWell and Swipe Files. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Adalo Crash Course YouTube Video More podcasts for bootstrappers…
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71 | Achievement unlocked: First MRR
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1:02:02Corey celebrates getting the first SwipeWell customers. Chris ships a helpful update to Jetboost and brainstorms some content ideas. They also discuss product analytics and being a power user of your own app. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: PostHog More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe…
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Corey launches CopywritingPrompts.com and experiments with programmatic SEO for SwipeWell. Chris is getting back in the groove, talking to customers, exploring partnerships, and working on new features for Jetboost. They also provide an update on Default Alive Ventures and discuss the opportunity cost of buying a SaaS. Ask us a question → Notable m…
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Corey works on a new side project as marketing for SwipeWell. Chris ships an important update to handle subscription changes and works on turning content briefs into articles. They also introduce Default Alive Ventures and talk about SaaS acquisition multiples based on ARR vs SDE. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Default Alive Ventures Tweet H…
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68 | Emergency Pod: “I’m sorry, I sold the company.”
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1:07:51Corey and Chris were about to close on a deal to acquire a micro SaaS business together until it suddenly fell apart. Listen in to hear what happened and what they’d do differently next time. Know a SaaS business we might want to acquire? → Notable mentions: MicroAcquisitions course Boopos More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their busi…
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Corey experiments with a $500 MRR Challenge to gain new members. Chris has had to put work on the backburner for a bit while overcoming some challenges at home. They also talk about Elon buying Twitter, NFT launches, and meetups. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Milk Road City Clash More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their busine…
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Corey onboards the first SwipeWell users on calls and publishes some new blog posts. Chris is only working half-time right now but managed to ship a key stability update for Jetboost. They also how sleep affects productivity and a new indie hacker podcast, Framework Friends. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Framework Friends More podcasts for …
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65 | Do founders get parental leave?
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1:04:29Corey builds a waitlist for SwipeWell and shares the outline for Founding Marketing. Chris gives a short update on how paternity leave is going. They also talk about the woes of tax season, meeting online friends in person, and the discipline to focus on what you work on. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing Table of Contents Je…
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Corey announces a new SaaS project. Chris makes a marketing hire and shares some product updates. They also talk about platform risk, outcome oriented communities, and hiring outside of your area of expertise. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Bootstrapping an outcome oriented community The Elephant in the room: The myth of exponential hypergro…
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Corey is focused on newsletter content and gives an update on the Swipe Files Job Board. Thanks to a situation with a competitor, Chris’ fire has been re-lit. They also talk about competition and celebrating customer wins. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing Swipe Files Job Board More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about…
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Corey explores a new cohort-based course partnership and reveals a book concept. Chris is working on major product improvements for Jetboost and a brand new booster. They also talk about community engagement and pricing dynamics. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their business…
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Corey reacquires Hey Marketers and rebrands it to the Swipe Files Job Board. Chris shares his current struggles with productivity and setting direction for Jetboost. They also talk about burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and Alexis Ohanian’s approach to customer support. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Corey’s tweet announcing Hey Marketers…
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Corey finishes Marketing Like A Media Company and prepares for launch. Chris is getting ready to roll out the Jetboost affiliate program in January. They also talk about goal-setting, 2022 plans, and recording biweekly moving forward. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Corey’s holiday side project: How To Beat Your Friends At Poker Ruben Gamez t…
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Corey and Chris chat about the last year — highlights, wins, losses, learnings, and everything in between. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Swipe Files Jetboost Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags
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58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel
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1:25:56Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: @CasJam on Twitter ZipMessage Bootstrapped Web More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Swipe Files Jetboost…
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57 | “Code without tests is bad code”
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1:06:39Corey gets another premium sponsor commitment and shares Black Friday results. Chris recaps No-Code Conf and has an epiphany when it comes to testing software. They also discuss code rewrites, throwing away your MVP, and of course, end with Corey's Crypto Corner. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Working Effectively With Legacy Code Constitutio…
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Corey records the first module for Marketing Like A Media Company and gets airdropped free crypto. Chris contemplates expanding the customer support team. They also talk about the new Calm Fund scout program, Black Friday / Cyber Monday preparation, and free competitors. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: ENS Report "@swipefiles" for impersonati…
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