“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.
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Chris Gleason Podcasts
The Deal podcast network brings The Deal’s award winning coverage in M&A, activist investing, private equity and restructuring to your airwaves. With a suite of offerings, including Activist Investing Today (hosted by Senior Editor Ronald Orol), Drinks With The Deal (hosted by Senior Writer David Marcus and Senior Reporter Bill Meagher), Behind The Buyouts (hosted by Senior Reporters Steve Gelsi, Nikitha Sattiraju and Senior Writer Chris Nolter) and Fresh Start (hosted by Senior Reporter Ste ...
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Drinks With The Deal: UIowa's Lie on Unmasking Corporate Fraud
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24:03University of Iowa finance professor Erik Lie discussed his pioneering research into options backdating, his new book Hatching Cheats, and how forensic finance can detect hidden misconduct.By The Deal
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Behind The Buyouts: JPMorgan's Berkus on Consumer M&A Rebound
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27:34Bob Berkus, managing director on JPMorgan's investment banking team, discussed the firm's growing mid-cap unit and a strong pipeline of consumer and retail deals for 2026.By The Deal
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Send us a text The losing battle for interesting banter continues this week. Phil’s most interesting question is about fish fry. Chris inches closer to a podcast sponsorship. Peter details the finer points of Bismarck nightlife. Kristen Kirch saves our hosts from themselves to talk about a life in music education and restaurant ownership. Now direc…
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Activist Investing Today: Latham's Drewry, Dubofsky on Rising M&A Activism, Exxon Robo-Voting
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27:31Latham & Watkins partners Christopher Drewry and Josh Dubofsky, global co-chairs of the firm’s shareholder activism and takeover defense practice, discussed the latest trends in investor insurgencies on the Activist Investing Today podcast with The Deal’s Ronald Orol.By The Deal
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Send us a text This week on Beyond Artless, we welcome the dynamic and delightfully down-to-earth Alli Mottaz, an instrumental music educator, percussionist, and all-around creative powerhouse from Waconia, Minnesota. Alli shares her journey from dreaming of playing for the WNBA to becoming an award-winning band director (with a soft spot for the J…
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Drinks With The Deal: Proskauer's Ahn on the Lessons of a Stint In-House
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20:24Proskauer Rose partner Chris Ahn discusses how his time as general counsel at James Perse made him appreciate what clients want out of their lawyers and what he loved about being at a law firm.By The Deal
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Send us a text With over 300 compositions to his credit, Willie Owens is a common name in music education. We sit down with Willie to chat about his 30 years of teaching band in Texas, his approach to honor bands, influential mentors, his recent honorary doctorate from VanderCook, presidential history, and corvettes. Peter brought not one but two b…
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Activist Investing Today: Barclay's Rossman on Exxon Retail Program, Rising Campaigns
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23:20Jim Rossman, global head of shareholder advisory at Barclays, analyzes the effect of an Exxon retail investor voting program as well as record levels of activism.By The Deal
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Behind the Buyouts: True Beauty's Gersten, Nuñez on Scaling Emerging Brands
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50:58True Beauty Ventures co-founders Rich Gersten and Cristina Nuñez discuss building a sector-focused venture firm, their portfolio strategy and the state of beauty M&A.By The Deal
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Send us a text Commuter – nearly every one of you has either conducted or played a chart written by the great Dean Sorenson. We get a chance to chat with Dean about subpar bus driving, almost missing a gig with Rosemary Clooney (George’s mom) and more. Phil was prepared (but you would never know it), Chris sets the bar low with his first question a…
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Drinks With The Deal: Thoma Bravo's Schwab on In-House Roles
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23:17Thoma Bravo general counsel Steven Schwab discusses the appeal of being an in-house lawyer, the differences between working at a trading firm and a PE sponsor and the issues he's thinking about now.By The Deal
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Activist Investing Today: Lazard's Couvelier on Retail 'Robo-Voting,' M&A Trends
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24:51Lazard Managing Director Chris Couvelier discusses shareholder activism trends, Exxon's robo-voting program, and M&A-driven campaigns with The Deal’s Ron Orol.By The Deal
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Send us a text In this heartfelt episode of Beyond Artless, we shine a spotlight on Jennifer Rogholt — a dedicated band mom whose tireless support and advocacy for music education has made a lasting impact on students, directors, and entire school communities. Jennifer shares her perspective on what it means to be a parent, volunteer, and champion …
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Behind the Buyouts: Arenova's Li Balances Creative, Financial Roles in VFX
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38:32On the latest episode of Behind the Buyouts, Arenova Capital founder and managing partner David Li discusses applyinga private equity principles to the creative business of visual effects for Hollywood and beyond.By The Deal
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Send us a text We all know John McCallister for the incredible free resources he shares on his website—but there’s so much more to this remarkable human. Join us for an enlightening and joyful conversation with John, whose heart is even bigger than the treasure trove of materials he offers online. John McCallister AMAZING Website: https://www.johnm…
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Drinks With The Deal: Moelis' Lee on Special Committee Work, Building a Career
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35:05Managing director Dan Lee discusses his work advising special committees on conflicted transactions and building a career experience by experience.By The Deal
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Send us a text In mid-season stride, our guest Reid Wixson shares with us on arts advocacy, affording opportunities to all students and Mumbai, India. Peter shares chewing ice cubes, Chris still distracted by the Packer game and Phil continues his quest for an articulate question (or really any coherent question). See if you can guess Paul Kile's B…
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Send us a text In this episode of Beyond Artless, we welcome Jason Caslor, conductor, educator, and Director of Bands at Arizona State University. Known for his innovative programming and collaborative spirit, Jason brings a unique perspective to the world of wind band conducting and music-making. Jason opens up about the art of leading ensembles, …
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Drinks With The Deal: Baker & McKenzie's Broder Offers Corporate Version of LA Law
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22:34Jennifer Broder, an M&A partner at Baker & McKenzie in Los Angeles, discusses clerking for Leo Strine, working as an associate for Bob Denham and how presiding over a mock trial in third grade helped set her on a path to becoming a lawyer.By The Deal
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Send us a text What happens when a music teacher decides to meet students where they are and to develop new ways to engage all learners through music? You get Bob Habersat, owner and author of Shed The Music, who is part teacher, part tech wizard, and potentially a hand model. In this episode, Bob dives into: His relentless drive to find new ways t…
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Activist Investing Today: Brand Eyes Director Notice Compromises
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22:06White & Case's Richard Brand suggests that passive investors, other institutions and academics should develop best practices for corporate bylaws seeking information about an activist's director nominations, as the matter right now is left to the courts to decide.By The Deal
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Send us a text This day is a long time coming. After one year teaching, our guest Lauren Buss speaks more intelligently and inspirationally than our hosts combined. Lauren enlightens us on how to play a piano with a sledgehammer, the fine art of crochet and the puzzle of “jeans on” hot-tubbing. Peter, Phil and Chris are blessedly quiet in this epis…
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Drinks With The Deal: Simpson's Cooper on Refinitiv, Lehman, Team Building
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24:14Elizabeth Cooper, the head of private equity at Simpson Thacher, talks about transitioning from M&A to PE as a young partner and how advising Blackstone on the Refinitiv deal transformed her career.By The Deal
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Send us a text In this episode of Beyond Artless, Peter brings us the extraordinary saxophonist, composer, and educator Russell Peterson, professor of saxophone, bassoon, and jazz at Concordia College in Moorhead, Minnesota. Russell shares his journey as a multifaceted musician—spanning classical, jazz, and contemporary performance—while offering i…
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Drinks With The Deal: A&O Shearman's Litowitz Talks Paramount, Merger Integration
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17:03Dan Litowitz, the U.S. deputy co-head of M&A at A&O Shearman, discusses what he's learned from watching his clients integrate acquisitions that he's applied to the merger of Allen & Overy and Shearman & Sterling and work he's done for Paramount.By The Deal
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Send us a text Season 1 - "Hope" Season 2 - "Return of the Jackasses" Season 3 - "The FCC Strikes Back" Season 4 - "Still Unfunded, Still Unfunny" - Episode one drops Saturday, Aug 30. Support the showBy Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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Behind the Buyouts: Oak Hill's Baker on MetroNet Investment, Fiber's S-Curve
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31:01Oak Hill Capital's managing partner Scott Baker walks listeners through the firm's 11-year investment in Metronet Inc., an early mover in the push to spool fiber to homes throughout the country.By The Deal
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Drinks With The Deal: Bok on How Wall Street Is Like 'Glengarry Glen Ross'
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44:36Scott Bok, the former chairman and CEO of M&A boutique Greenhill, discusses his career, his new memoir and the challenges of managing the highly ambitious people in finance.By The Deal
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Drinks With The Deal: Holland & Knight's August on Advising Growth Companies
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23:10Adam August, a corporate partner at Holland & Knight in Tysons, Va., discusses his work for companies that have the federal government as a significant customer and why he enjoys advising clients from formation to sale.By The Deal
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Activist Investing Today: Kobre's Kim on Samsung, Chaebols, Browder
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22:42Kobre & Kim co-founder Michael Kim explains why the environment for activist investing in South Korea is improving, despite structural restrictions, and he discusses his work advising Putin critic Bill Browder.By The Deal
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Behind The Buyouts: Houlihan's Abelow On PE Resilience in 2025
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24:50Justin Abelow, managing director in Houlihan Lokey's financial sponsors group, discusses PE's resilience in navigating a challenging M&A environment and the alternate structures firms are pursuing for liquidity.By The Deal
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