Welcome to the Stacking Slabs, a podcast for sports cards collectors. There's been a tremendous amount of change to our Hobby over the last few years and the one constant has been the passion from the collecting community. Stacking Slabs is built by the collector and lives to tell stories for the collector.
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Welcome to The Content Cocktail Hour, the show hosted by AudiencePlus' CEO, Jonathan Gandolf. Our mission is to shake out the deepest secrets of B2B marketing professionals and stir up fresh conversation. All to help you connect your brand with the right audience, at the right time. Let's raise a glass!
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Traditional advertising channels like newspaper ads, radio spots, billboards, and TV commercials are a great way to create demand, but lack what’s needed to capture it. We’re living in The Search Economy. Consumers have more access to information than ever before which puts them in complete control of their buying decisions. The problem? Most businesses aren’t doing enough to adapt to the changes to make it easy on their next customer to find them. On The Search Economy, David Riggs, Founder ...
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Centered on the Sports Card hobby/industry. "Sports Card Nation" Friday's a great conversation with a hobby person(s) Alternating Mondays: "Hobby Quick Hits"-one topic, weekly hobby news and new product releases. & "Card Mensches"-Co-Hosted w/Danny Black. Hobby, Sports & Gambling/DFS discussion with a little life mixed in. E-Mail: [email protected] Website: www.sportscardnationpodcast.co... Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sports-card-na ...
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We Went Fast's mission is to improve the sport of motocross through stories. Because better stories = a better sport. If you love history, data and details, you'll enjoy We Went Fast.
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Brett McGrath returns to the show again to chop up some hobby. Talking points on this episode may include: *Wrestling Hobby Community and Cards *Football Hobby and discussion *Going full time in the hobby *Balancing Hobby work and family time *NSCC talk Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardnationpo....com https://linktr.ee/Spor…
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Passion to Profession: How Mikey Turned His Career in Tech into a Career in the Hobby
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42:04In this episode of Passion to Profession, brought to you by eBay, I sit down with Mikey Osborn, Director of Growth Marketing and Technology at Collectors. Mikey shares how a love for Randy Moss and nostalgia-driven collecting eventually intersected with his career in technology, leading him to join one of the most important companies in the hobby. …
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The WNBA Card Podcast: The Cards and the Psychology of Collecting
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58:32It’s playoff time, and we’re bringing the heat on Season 2, Episode 10 of The WNBA Card Podcast. Katelyn and Brett dig into the psychology behind collecting WNBA cards—why we buy, what drives us, and how the passion in this niche hobby looks different from other categories. We cover: The perception gap between men’s and women’s sports cards The rol…
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The Football Card Podcast #12: I couldn't care less about the team strug-ga-ling
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1:01:54Football is back, and so is The Football Card Podcast. In Episode 12, Pack Nicholson and Brett break down week one without overreacting, but with plenty of collector energy. From Joe Namath’s cultural impact to Andrew Luck jerseys still popping up in Indy, they explore the legacy of the number 12. They share their thoughts on the Colts’ long-awaite…
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Cards in Hand: Drake’s 1998 SkyBox E-X2001 Peyton Manning Essential Credentials Future /7
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26:09Recorded live at The National and brought to you by eBay, this episode of Cards in Hand features my good friend Drake (@drakes_pc), one of the most passionate Peyton Manning collectors in the hobby. We talk about his 1998 SkyBox E-X2001 Essential Credentials Future /7—a true ghost card in the Manning catalog. Drake shares the story of landing this …
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What separates the long game collectors from everyone else in the hobby? In this episode, Brett breaks down the DNA of the long-term player: Passion over profit Deep understanding of a niche Patience and perspective Community and relationships A mindset that keeps collecting fun for decades This conversation was sparked by a student question during…
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Card Ladder Confidential #12 with Chris (@chris_hoj) and Josh (cardboard_chronicles) from Card Ladder
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1:00:01The market is red hot. Cards are moving at record speed, headlines are popping up every day, and collectors everywhere are feeling the pull of FOMO. In this episode of Card Ladder Confidential, I sit down with Chris and Josh from Card Ladder to talk about what it’s really like to navigate a raging market. We cover: The most annoying parts of a bull…
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Basketball Card Hall of Fame Opens: Convo w/ Ray Fonio and I make my picks. Hobby Quick Hits E211
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35:36The Basketball Card Hall of Fame is now open and voting has begun for its ignagural class. We speak to lRay Fonio and I disclose my votes. Vote here: https://sites.google.com/view/... Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardnationpo....com https://linktr.ee/Sportscardna... E-Mail us at: [email protected] Become a supporter …
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Passion to Profession: Building Tech for the Hobby with Scott Lock of InfernoRed Technology
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53:03On this episode of Passion to Profession sponsored by eBay, I’m joined by Scott Lock, CEO and Co-founder of InfernoRed Technology. Scott shares how a side business selling cards with his son on eBay turned into a $250,000 operation, and how that same passion for collecting led to building technology solutions for some of the biggest companies in th…
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The WNBA Card Podcast: Exploring The Collectibility Equation Beyond Winning
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49:50With the playoff race heating up, Katelyn and Brett explore what really drives interest in WNBA cards. Is it all about winning, or are other forces shaping collector behavior? They break down: Why winning doesn’t always lead to hobby heat How moments, storylines, scarcity, and cultural impact influence card values Player-to-watch picks from all 9 p…
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Dustin of "Sports Card Dad" returns for part 2 of our great hobby conversation this week. Talking points on this episode may include: *The Beginnings *Approach to content creation and being transparent. *How you collect and sell *Sponsorship criticisms *Spending too much and advice *NSCC *Grading space thoughts Follow us on Social Media: Website: h…
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The Football Card Podcast #11: Jeff George Sucks, but at Least Football Cards Rule
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1:19:55Week 1 is here and so is Episode 11 of The Football Card Podcast with Pack Nicholson and Brett. This week we’re leaning into the season kickoff energy and tackling the topics you, the collectors, sent our way. We start by talking number 11s—Bad Jeff George memories, Larry Fitzgerald’s playoff run, and Julio’s touchdown paradox. Then we dive into li…
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Cards in Hand: Tony’s 1954 Topps Jackie Robinson Signed in Dodger Blue
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19:31Recorded live at The National and brought to you by eBay, this episode of Cards in Hand features Tony (@southerncollector14) sharing one of the most meaningful cards in his collection: a 1954 Topps Jackie Robinson signed in Dodger blue ballpoint pen, graded Auto 10 by PSA. Tony talks about what it means to hold a card Jackie himself once held, the …
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What makes a player a true hobby GOAT? And why do sets sometimes matter as much as the athletes on the cardboard? In this episode, Brett explores the recipe behind collecting greatness. He breaks down why only a select few players reach GOAT status, the role of cultural impact and iconic moments, and why certain sets, brands, and parallels hold lon…
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Passion to Profession: Going All-In with Chris McGill from Card Ladder
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52:54What does it really take to build a business in the hobby? On this episode of Passion to Profession, I sit down with my good friend Chris McGill, CEO and Co-Founder of Card Ladder. You’ve heard Chris on Stacking Slabs more than anyone else, but this time we go deeper into the business side of his story. We talk about: The decision to walk away from…
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The WNBA Card Podcast: When Demand Outpaces Supply
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1:03:13This week on The WNBA Card Podcast, Brett and Katelyn dig into the tension every collector is feeling right now. Demand for WNBA cards has never been stronger. Sales are surging, collectors are engaged, and stars like Paige Bueckers and Caitlin Clark are driving attention. But where are the new releases? We unpack the lack of communication from Pan…
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Dustin of Sports Card Dad chops up some hobby! E351
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31:51Dustin of "Sports Card Dad" is our guest this week. Talking points on this episode may include: *The Beginnings *Approach to content creation and being transparent. *How you collect and sell *Sponsorship criticisms *Spending too much and advice *NSCC *Grading space thoughts Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardnationpo....com h…
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The Football Card Podcast #10: Kurt Warner Actually Did Wear Number 10 On December 27, 1998
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1:17:27Pack and Brett hit a milestone with Episode 10 of The Football Card Podcast. This week is packed with optimism heading into football season and plenty of collecting talk. From Mitchell Trubisky nostalgia to Anthony Richardson’s Nebula, to debating Eli vs. Kurt Warner, the number 10s take center stage. We tackle listener questions on defensive playe…
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Cards in Hand: Josh Johnson’s 2014 Prizm Aaron Donald Black Finite 1/1
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25:27Recorded live at The National and brought to you by eBay, this episode of Cards in Hand features Josh Johnson, co-founder of Card Ladder, with one of the most dominant defensive cards of the modern era: the 2014 Prizm Aaron Donald Black Finite Rookie 1/1 PSA 9. Josh shares why he shifted from chasing LeBron grails to building a Black Finite collect…
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The Four Factors for Selling With Confidence in a Bull Market
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24:34We’re in the middle of a bull market. Prices are climbing, demand is high, and collectors are feeling it everywhere they look. That excitement brings opportunity, but it also brings tough decisions. In this episode, I break down the framework I use when thinking about selling without regret: Value Personal significance Rarity Scarcity I talk throug…
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The Staging Area #6: Rare Grails, Worst Sets, and Collecting in a Bull Market with Tory
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53:13Tory from dcsports87 is back for another episode of The Staging Area. We cover it all in this one—big hobby sales, grading shakeups, live selling, and why the bull market is pushing collectors to make quick decisions. We get into the Tim Duncan 2012-13 Prizm Gold sale, McDavid Young Guns High Gloss, and what these cards mean for the long-term value…
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Passion to Profession: Building Collecting’s Future at eBay with Jayne Peressini
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47:41Jayne Peressini has built a career on growth. From early days in gaming and fantasy sports to leadership roles at Reddit, DraftKings, and EA, she’s always taken risks and found new ways forward. Today, she’s applying that same mindset as Director of Product Management at eBay Collectibles. In this conversation, Jayne shares how her collecting roots…
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The WNBA Card Podcast: Preparing for College Hoops with Sarah Strong, JuJu, and the Next Wave of Stars
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54:08We’re back on the WNBA Card Podcast with a conversation collectors have been waiting for. Brett and Katelyn revisit women’s college basketball and explore what it means for collectors right now. From Sarah Strong’s rise at UConn to Juju Watkins’ recovery at USC and Azzi Fudd’s surprising absence in Bowman and Topps sets, the focus is on the next wa…
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Live from the NSCC Main Stage Part II w/Tony De Marzio & Tony Leebrick E350
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32:45This week's episode is Part II from "Sports Card Nation Live" on the 2025 NSCC Main Stage. I was joined by Tony De Marzio(TJ is online) and Tony Leebrick(SouthernCollector14). Conversation includes buying strategies, saving for the NSCC, buying with purpose and exit strategies and so much more! Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sports…
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The Football Card Podcast #9: Hut Hut, Omaha! Collector Q&A and Football Cards Heating Up
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1:07:31Pack Nicholson is back with Episode 9 of The Football Card Podcast on the Stacking Slabs Network. We’re keeping it all about the collector this week. We start with your questions—the ones that matter most to football card collectors right now. From there, we run through collecting updates, market observations, and the latest chatter around players …
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Cards in Hand: Katelyn’s 2014 Allen & Ginter Anthony Bourdain Red Ink Auto PSA 10
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31:01Recorded live at The National and brought to you by eBay, this episode of Cards in Hand features Katelyn (@coldlunchcards) sharing the centerpiece of her collection: the 2014 Allen & Ginter Anthony Bourdain Red Ink Autograph /10 PSA 10. Katelyn talks about her connection to Bourdain, how watching Parts Unknown with her dad as a teenager shaped her …
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Content is more than background noise in the hobby. It’s the heartbeat. In this episode, I’m reflecting on what content means in this current era of collecting. I’m talking about how it connects us, educates us, and helps shape the way we collect — whether we realize it or not. I spend my days creating content, but I consume just as much. That comb…
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Card Ladder Confidential #11 with Chris (@chris_hoj) and Josh (cardboard_chronicles) from Card Ladder
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58:00In this episode of Card Ladder Confidential, Brett kicks things off with a cold open that puts a $12,000 Jay Cutler card front and center—and opens a bigger discussion about what signals a set is becoming bigger than the player. From there, the conversation spans: Why 1/1s from the Panini era feel different than other iconic sets The psychology of …
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The search for deeper meaning in Penton’s 1959 record-breaking transcontinental ride. John Penton, the motorcycling pioneer and legend turned 100 years old on August 19, 2025. To celebrate this milestone, we're diving into a 52 hour period of his long life, to ask him about the time he raced across the country as fast as he could. For photos, chart…
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Are "Trade Nights" good for the National? Hobby Quick Hits E210
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21:59Trade Nights keep the transactions flowing after the show doors close, it extends the show in a sense but what do dealers think about it and is it good. We delve into these aspects and more in this episode. Also: *New Product Release Schedule *Hobby News Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardnationpo....com https://linktr.ee/Spo…
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Passion to Profession: Steve Sloan from Heystack on Innovation, Escape, and What the Hobby Needs Next
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56:19In this episode of Passion to Profession (sponsored by eBay), I’m joined by hobby veteran Steve Sloan, CEO of Haystack—a company quietly becoming the go-to infrastructure partner for hobby businesses. Steve’s career path includes stops at Upper Deck, PSA (where he was President), and now Heystack, where he's building tech to solve real pain points …
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The WNBA Card Podcast: Does PER Matter for Collectors? + The Rise of Gold Prizm Sales in 2025
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55:40Is it possible that PER (Player Efficiency Rating) might influence hobby behavior in the WNBA card space? In this episode, we explore that question—and a whole lot more. Brett and Katelyn break down: Why 6 of the top 20 PER players in WNBA history are still active What collectors might be missing in names like Aliyah Boston and Nneka Ogwumike The c…
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Live from the NSCC Main Stage w/Tony Leebrick and Tony De Marzio E349
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29:44This week's episode comes from "Sports Card Nation Live" on the 2025 NSCC Main Stage. I was joined by Tony De Marzio(TJ is online) and Tony Leebrick(SouthernCollector14). Conversation includes buying strategies, saving for the NSCC, buying with purpose and exit strategies and so much more. Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardn…
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The Football Card Podcast #8: Cutler, Community, and the State of Football Cards
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1:06:05Pack Nicholson brings the energy for Episode 8 of The Football Card Podcast. We start with your comments, hit the latest football talk, and dive into the market watch. The big headline? That Jay Cutler conversation that took over the internet. Pack breaks down what happened, why it matters, and what it signals for football card collectors. If you c…
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Cards in Hand: Rodman's (@rodmanpc) 2016 Select Lionel Messi Black Prizm 1/1
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27:05Recorded live at The National and brought to you by eBay, Episode 2 of Cards in Hand features Rodman (@rodmanpc), one of the premier Lionel Messi collectors in the world. We talk about his 2016 Select Messi Black Prizm 1/1 PSA 8—why it’s a cornerstone in his collection, what makes it stand out aesthetically, and the story behind his transition from…
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Launching Collecting For Keeps: Finding Meaning In A Hobby Built On Hype
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22:08This week’s flagship is different. I’m using this episode to officially launch my new book, Collecting For Keeps: Finding Meaning in a Hobby Built on Hype. This isn’t a blueprint. It’s a reflection. It’s about why we collect, the art of chasing, filtering out the noise, building with intention, letting go, finding community, and collecting in a way…
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The Staging Area #5: Post-National Lessons and Growth
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51:18The National is over, but the conversations keep going. In this post-show special, Tory from dcsports87 joins me to break down their biggest takeaways from Rosemont. We talk brand growth, why the corporate area felt different this year, the success of their same-day listing program, and the moments that stood out most on the show floor. If you’re a…
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How to Stop Guessing and Start Testing with Casey Hill, DoWhatWorks
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29:56“Most marketers are copying what their competitors are doing without realizing they might be copying the losing version,” says Casey Hill, CMO at DoWhatWorks. In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, Jonathan Gandolf welcomes back Casey Hill to explore why marketers need to question the default choices they make and how actual A/B test data is…
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Passion to Profession: From Collector to Working for One of the Industry's Biggest Brands with Ryan Greene
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46:04Ryan Greene grew up chasing Shaq rookies and riding his bike to the local card shop. Today, he leads athlete and artist partnerships at PSA. In this episode of Passion to Profession (sponsored by eBay), we go deep on Ryan’s transition from hobbyist to operator at one of the most important companies in the space. We talk about: What the 1998 SP Auth…
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The WNBA Card Podcast: Defining The Role and Importance of First Gen Collectors
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1:03:32This week on The WNBA Card Podcast, Katelyn and Brett explore a powerful question: Are we living in the first generation of true WNBA card collectors? Fresh off The National, they share what they saw, who they met, and the signals that this category is evolving fast. From the boom in W gear on the show floor to organic trades, meetups, and an onlin…
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Erik Myers knows the hobby and he knows life and he now navigates both terrains with a vast knowledge. He returns this week for the conclusion of last week's conversation. Talking points on this episode may include: *Hobby beginnings *The Hobby overseas *Navigating the Hobby safely *Wearing different hobby hats *Thinking Long term *His Redemption s…
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The Football Card Podcast #7: The National — The Year We Talk About Football Cards with our Football Friends from the Internet
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1:07:27We’re back from The National and fired up. Pack and Brett are recapping their experience—from overheated upstairs booths to some of the best in-hand moments of the entire weekend. This episode is packed with observations, hobby takeaways, and real collector stories. Topics covered: Why The National felt different this year Hobby businesses maturing…
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Cards in Hand: Chris McGill’s 1998-99 Upper Deck Michael Jordan Gold 1/1 #230a
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33:47We’re kicking off Cards in Hand, a brand-new Stacking Slabs miniseries brought to you by eBay, with Chris McGill from Card Ladder. Cards in Hand was recorded at The National where the energy around our hobby was at an all-time high. Chris shares the story of his 1998-99 Upper Deck Michael Jordan Gold 1/1 — a card with a look and feel that takes you…
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Why Connection Beats Conversion in Modern Marketing with Val Riley, Unbounce, Insightly, LeadsRX
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22:44“The best thing we can do as sellers is match the urgency of the person who is reaching out to us.” says Val Riley, VP of Marketing at Unbounce, Insightly, and LeadsRX. In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, host Jonathan Gandolf chats with Val about the shift from conversion to connection, both in your tech stack and your go-to-market strat…
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Here's My 3 Biggest Takeaways from The National 2025
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22:50This isn’t a booth-by-booth walk through. It’s not a play-by-play of what was in the showcases. This episode is about perspective. I break down my biggest takeaways from The National that you won’t hear in the typical recaps: The maturity of hobby businesses and why tech adoption is shaping the next era of collecting Why The National has evolved in…
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NSCC Recap: Thoughts, Observations and Deeds! Hobby Quick Hits E209
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28:49Let's wrap up the 2025 National with what I did, bought and saw. Follow us on Social Media: Website: https://www.sportscardnationpo....com https://linktr.ee/Sportscardna... E-Mail us at: [email protected] Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sports-card-nation-podcast--4761791/support.…
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Passion to Profession: Preserving the Hobby's Legacy with Integrity with Michael Osacky of Baseball in the Attic
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40:04In this episode of Passion to Profession, Brett sits down with Michael Osacky from Baseball in the Attic, one of the most trusted voices in sports memorabilia appraisal. Michael shares stories from the road, from emotional appraisals in small-town basements to unexpected discoveries in forgotten collections. They talk about the current state of the…
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The WNBA Card Podcast: Recording the Pod In Person...We're Live from The National
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32:08We’re live and in person from The National. For the first time ever, Brett and Katelyn (@coldlunchcards) sit down together—bags still packed—to talk WNBA cards at the biggest show of the year. You’ll hear the sounds of the floor, the latest updates on what’s showing up in showcases, early signs of how the WNBA market is shifting, and what it’s like…
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Rethinking Customer Education in the Age of AI with Cruz Daddario and Victoria Meyer, Customer Education Managers, Seamless.AI
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25:02“Buyers want fast answers and ROI, not a song and dance. But once they’re in, education builds the relationship,” says Cruz Daddario, Customer Education Manager at Seamless.AI. In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, Jonathan Gandolf chats with Cruz Daddario and fellow Customer Education Manager Victoria Meyer about how customer education can…
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Erik Myers..Navigating the Hobby and Life E347
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24:08Erik Myers knows the hobby and he knows life and he now navigates both terrains with a vast knowledge. He's on guest this week. Talking points on this episode may include: *Hobby beginnings *The Hobby overseas *Navigating the Hobby safely *Wearing different hobby hats *Thinking Long term *His Redemption story Follow us on Social Media: Website: htt…
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