Best Bits And Tokens Podcasts (2025)

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The Chopping Block: Arthur Hayes & Tom Lee; Hyperliquid vs Aster, DATs & ETH - Ep. 917 44:29

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Arthur Hayes & Tom Lee map the new crypto arms race—Hyperliquid vs Aster, Plasma’s stablecoin rails, and ETH’s DAT-fueled supercycle. Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. Live at Token2049 Singapore, we’re joined by Arthur Hayes (Ma…

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What’s the Better Bet? Stocks or Gold? - Ep. 916 59:21

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Is gold the ultimate hedge against inflation and sovereign risk? Or are stocks the better long-term wealth builder thanks to innovation and earnings growth? In this heated and highly entertaining episode, Ram Ahluwalia (Lumida Wealth) and Vinny Lingham (Praxos Capital) dive deep into the macro landscape to debate the relative merits of gold vs. the…

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CME Plans 24/7 Crypto Trading, Sweden Plans Bitcoin Reserve, New York Regulates Crypto Mining, Avalanche Treasury Secures Major Deal, and more... 10:56

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(0:10): CME Group to Launch 24/7 Crypto Trading by 2026, Aiming to Dominate Regulated Market (1:49): Sweden Eyes Strategic Bitcoin Reserve to Boost National Holdings Amid Global Financial Shifts (4:19): New York Bill Targets Crypto Mining's Environmental Impact with New Taxes and Regulations (6:03): Avalanche Treasury Co. Strikes $675M Deal to Acqu…

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How Hyperliquid Came to ‘Threaten the Very Existence’ of CEXs Like Binance - Ep. 915 1:14:25

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Perp DEXs are on fire, with volumes topping $1 trillion a month for the first time. Aster, backed by YZi Labs (formerly Binance Labs), has suddenly vaulted to the top of volume charts, but is its rise organic, or manufactured? But while everyone frames the battle as Aster vs. Hyperliquid, Syncracy’s Ryan Watkins and Sunny Shi argue the real fight i…

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Bitcoin Tax Breaks Boost, CoinShares Expands US Crypto, VisionSys AI Invests in Solana, Bank of England Regulates Stablecoins, and more... 11:35

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(0:10): Bitcoin Tax Break Boosts Strategy Shares, Sparks Industry Optimism (2:40): CoinShares Acquires Bastion Asset Management to Expand US Crypto Offerings, Stock Surges 15% (4:28): VisionSys AI to Stake $2 Billion in Solana, Partners with Marinade Finance for Strategic Blockchain Move (6:49): Bank of England Eyes Stablecoin Regulation: Aiming fo…

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How DoubleZero Built a Faster Internet for Crypto and Helped All DePIN - Ep. 914 36:07

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DoubleZero just launched its mainnet-beta, offering a new type of high-performance fiber network for blockchains, live across 5 continents and already adopted by 20%+ of Solana stake. Co-founder Austin Federa joins Unchained to walk through: How DoubleZero creates a dedicated internet for crypto Who contributes fiber and why they earn the 2Z token …

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SEC Recognizes State Trusts, Bitcoin Eyes Gold Status, Bit Digital Bets on Ethereum, Tether Amplifies Bitcoin Holdings, and more... 10:39

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(0:10): SEC Expands Crypto Custody Options, Recognizes State Trust Companies as 'Banks' (2:07): Bitcoin's Long-Term Potential: Could It Surpass Gold as a Leading Inflation Hedge? (4:17): Bit Digital Raises $100M for Ethereum Focus, Signals Shift from Bitcoin Mining (6:29): Tether Boosts Bitcoin Holdings by $1 Billion, Becomes 6th Largest Bitcoin Wa…

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Why Every Company Will Have a Stablecoin — and Why One L2 Isn’t Enough - Ep. 912 1:32:05

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This week on Unchained, we’ve got a double-header. First, Zach Abrams, CEO of Bridge (acquired by Stripe), unveils Open Issuance, a platform designed to let any company launch its own stablecoin. He explains why the stablecoin duopoly is ending, why fragmentation won’t slow adoption, and how stablecoins could pair with AI to reshape global money mo…

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Bits + Bips: Where Is the Most Wealth to Be Made in Crypto: DeFi or CeFi? - Ep. 913 1:05:49

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Crypto’s bull run may be far from over, but the battleground is shifting. On this week’s Bits + Bips, Bill Barhydt of Abra and Robert Leshner of Superstate join Ram Ahluwalia and Steven Ehrlich to debate: The current state of the markets with a looming government shutdown SWIFT’s move to build on Linea, an Ethereum layer 2 Hyperliquid vs Aster The …

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UK Seizes Largest Bitcoin, SWIFT Links Banks Blockchain, QNB Implements JPMorgan Blockchain, Cathie Wood Backs Hyperliquid, and more... 12:06

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(0:10): UK's Largest Bitcoin Seizure: Zhimin Qian Pleads Guilty in £5.5 Billion Laundering Case (2:40): SWIFT Partners with Banks to Revolutionize Cross-Border Payments Using Blockchain and Ethereum's Layer 2 (4:45): QNB Adopts JPMorgan's Blockchain for Instant USD Payments, Leading the Charge in Digital Banking Transformation (7:16): Cathie Wood E…

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Aster DEX Hits $17B Weekly, Mutuum Revolutionizes DeFi Lending, Quantum Solutions Secures Funding, Ethereum Faces Resistance, and more... 10:35

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(0:10): Aster DEX Soars with $1.7B Weekly Trading, Rivals in Perpetual DEX Market (2:39): Mutuum Poised to Disrupt DeFi Lending with Innovative Models and Secure Ecosystem (4:35): Quantum Solutions Raises $180M, Establishes Japan's First ETH Treasury with ARK Invest Backing (6:30): Ethereum Bounces Back: Can It Break Resistance and Spark a New Bull…

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Modern JavaScript Testing: Integration, Contract Testing & AI Tools - JSJ 692 1:06:28

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In this episode of JavaScript Jabber, I sit down with Dan Shapir and our special guest, Yoni Goldberg, to dive deep into the ever-evolving world of JavaScript testing. Yoni, a consultant who’s worked with over 40 organizations to refine developer workflows, shares valuable lessons learned from helping teams design efficient and reliable tests. We e…

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The Chopping Block: Perp Wars & Stablecoin Battles: Hyperliquid, Aster, Tether - Ep. 911 1:02:47

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Farooq Malik, co-founder and CEO of Rain, as two parallel wars erupt across crypto: the Perp DEX war between Hyperliquid and the CZ-backed Aster, and the deepening batt…

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European Banks Launch Stablecoin, Cloudflare Launches Stablecoin, Ohio Uses Bitcoin for Payments, M2 Capital Fuels UAE Crypto, and more... 12:50

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(0:10): Nine European Banks Unite to Launch Regulated Euro Stablecoin by 2026, Challenging US Dollar Dominance (2:20): Cloudflare Unveils NET Dollar Stablecoin to Revolutionize AI-Driven Payments and Challenge Traditional Finance (4:59): Ohio Embraces Bitcoin for State Payments, Pioneers Crypto Integration in Public Finance (7:37): M2 Capital Inves…

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Plasma's Successful Launch, Revenue Over TVL & the Future of Pump.fun - Ep. 910 1:27:54

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How do stablecoin-first blockchains win distribution? Does TVL actually map to value? And why speculation may become the default language of online culture. In this 3-part episode, we explore three different important stories. Segment 1: CoinFund’s Seth Ginns explains how newly launched stablecoin chain Plasma aims to compete, plus why the “stablec…

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Crypto Reshapes Global Wealth, Franklin Templeton Expands Benji, Coinbase CEO Predicts Bitcoin Boom, Jiuzi Holdings Bets on Crypto, and more... 12:54

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(0:10): 2025: Crypto's Global Surge Reshapes Wealth, Politics, and Finance (2:54): Franklin Templeton Expands Benji Platform to BNB Chain Amid Tokenized Asset Boom (5:44): Coinbase CEO Predicts Bitcoin's Skyrocketing Rise to $1 Million by 2030 Amid Institutional Surge (7:53): Jiuzi Holdings Dives into Crypto: $1 Billion Investment to Hedge Against …

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Why Hyperliquid Should Cut Its Total Token Supply Nearly in Half - Ep. 909 36:32

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Crypto investors love to throw around “FDV” as if it’s the ultimate measure of value. But what if that number is more misleading than helpful? In this episode, DBA’s Jon Charbonneau explains his proposal to cut Hyperliquid’s supply by nearly half, why he believes FDV overstates real valuations, and how outdated tokenomics are holding projects back.…

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CleanSpark Extends Bitcoin Credit, Fnality Raises 136M for Blockchain Expansion, Verse8 Integrates NFTs into Games, Strive and Semler Merge, and more... 11:53

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(0:10): CleanSpark Expands $100M Bitcoin Credit Line for Mining Growth Amid Market Volatility (2:00): Fnality Secures $136M to Expand Blockchain Settlement Network and Enhance Global Financial Infrastructure (4:30): Verse8 Partners with Blockchain Platform to Integrate Moonbirds, Azuki NFTs into AI-Driven Games (6:49): Strive and Semler Merge to Fo…

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Bits + Bips: How Wall Street Could Make a Killing off the Next Crypto Winter - Ep. 908 1:01:39

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Markets had a flood of liquidations on Monday, and traders lost over $1.5 billion in positions. So, why are liquidations spiking? Is this a warning or a blip? Also, could a flood of DAT issuance be setting the stage for not just a crypto winter, but a crypto “nuclear” winter? If so, hedge funds and market structure could accelerate the pain. This w…

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US Senators Back Bitcoin Investment, AgriFORCE Rebrands and Aims for Nasdaq, UKUS Launch Crypto Task Force, South Korea Launches Blockchain Platform, and more... 11:56

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(0:10): US Lawmakers Push for Bitcoin in 401(k)s; SEC Guidance Expected by 2025 (2:44): AgriFORCE Rebrands as AVAX One, Aiming for Nasdaq Listing and $550M Avalanche Blockchain Investment (5:12): UK-US Launch Joint Task Force to Harmonize Crypto Regulations, Boosting Market Confidence and Institutional Adoption (7:51): South Korea Launches First Bl…

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The Comeback of RPC: SolidJS, TanStack, and the Future of JavaScript Frameworks with Ryan Carniato & Tanner Linsley - JSJ 691 1:29:52

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In this episode of JavaScript Jabber, I sit down with Ryan Carniato, creator of SolidJS, and Tanner Linsley, the force behind TanStack, for a deep-dive conversation on the resurgence of Remote Procedure Calls (RPC) in modern web development. We explore why RPC is making a comeback, how frameworks like Solid, TanStack, and others are shaping the way…

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SpacePay Changes Crypto Payments, Recon Lists on LBank, APX Tokens Surge, Binance Co-Founder Starts Giggle Academy, and more... 11:50

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(0:10): SpacePay Revolutionizes Crypto Payments with Instant Fiat Conversion and Low Transaction Fees (1:57): Recon Revolutionizes Asset Access with Solana-Powered Tokenization, Now Listed on LBank Exchange (3:53): APX Tokens Skyrocket 8,000% After ASTER Rebranding, Surpassing Bitcoin's Monthly Growth (6:46): Binance Co-Founder Launches Giggle Acad…

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Stellar Tokenizes Assets in Latin America, Bitcoin Targets New Highs, Morpheus Launches v2 Upgrade, Bitcoin Predicted to Reach 1 Million, and more... 10:40

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(0:10): Stellar Expands in Latin America, Tokenizes $200M in Assets with Mercado Bitcoin (1:47): Bitcoin Set for New Highs: Analysts Predict Surge to $124,000 Amid Bullish Market Trends (3:50): Morpheus Unveils v2 Upgrade: Multi-Asset Staking with Aave, Earn MOR Tokens Seamlessly (6:09): Bitcoin Set to Skyrocket: Experts Predict $500K to $1M Amid I…

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Debate: Should Stablecoin Chains Have an Ethereum L2 or Their Own L1? - Ep. 907 1:25:35

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In this episode, Cyber Capital’s Justin Bons and Codex’s Haonan Li challenge the new orthodoxy: whether payments chains should be alt L1s or Ethereum L2s, how “neutrality” and finality matter for real-world transactions, and why fragmentation could make or break onchain dollars. We dig into Stripe’s Tempo (and its permissioned start), what it would…

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The Chopping Block: Stablecoin-as-a-Service: The Next Big Crypto Gold Rush? - Ep. 906 1:00:44

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Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Gordon Liao, Chief Economist at Circle, to dissect the Stablecoin Wars. From Circle’s Arc and Stripe + Paradigm’s Tempo, to Solana’s native stablecoin push and Hyperliq…

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Saudi Bank Partners with Chainlink, UK FCA Drafts Crypto Rules, Maestro Launches Bitcoin Yield, MoneyGram Launches Stablecoin App, and more... 11:31

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(0:10): Saudi Awwal Bank Joins Forces with Chainlink for Blockchain-Powered Financial Transformation (3:02): UK FCA Proposes New Crypto Rules to Balance Innovation and Consumer Protection (5:18): Maestro Institutional Unveils Bitcoin Yield Platform for Corporates and Asset Managers (6:41): MoneyGram Unveils App Integrating Stablecoins for Instant G…

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Openbank Launches Crypto, Swiss Banks Innovate with Blockchain, UN Launches Blockchain Academy, US and UK Align Crypto Rules, and more... 13:04

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(0:10): Santander's Openbank Launches Crypto Trading in Germany, Eyes Wider European Adoption (2:37): Swiss Banks Pioneer Blockchain-Based Payments with Groundbreaking Deposit Token Study (4:51): UN Launches 'Government Blockchain Academy' to Transform Public Service Transparency by 2026 (7:02): US-UK Forge Closer Ties on Crypto Regulations, Eye St…

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Bits + Bips: Could a Base Token Be Coinbase's Key to a Super App? - Ep. 905 1:04:31

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This week on Bits + Bips, hosts Steve Ehrlich and Ram Ahluwalia speak with Blockchain.com’s Nic Cary and Franklin Templeton’s Max Gokhman. We talk about how the potential Base token would alter the L2 landscape, and who should capture the value if Coinbase becomes the backbone for DeFi. Also, whether Web2 and TradFi giants will buy their way onchai…

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Base Will Likely Have a Token: Why Now, Who Wins, and How Big It Gets - Ep. 904 49:48

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Base just crossed its own Rubicon. After months of saying “no token,” Jesse Pollak now says Base must decentralize and is “exploring” a token. What changed? On this episode, Proof of Play’s ICO Beast and former Coinbase Ventures investor Ryan Yi unpack why “exploring” is the operative word, how policy (the Clarity Act) could shape the rollout, and …

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El Salvador Launches Bitcoin Banks, Public Companies Dive into Crypto, Crypto Markets Await Fed Decision, Ethereum Stablecoin Surge, and more... 12:48

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(0:10): El Salvador to Launch World’s First Bitcoin-Only Banks by 2025, Aiming for Digital Finance Leadership (1:45): Public Companies Embrace Crypto Investments Amid Regulatory Uncertainty and Institutional Interest (4:40): Crypto Markets Brace for Fed's Rate Decision and Inflation Data Impact (7:08): Ethereum Stablecoin Supply Hits Record $166B, …

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194 - The Italian Wars 11 - Medici pope to Medici pope - Battle of Pavia and Cognac 16:58

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After three episodes exploring the life of Leonardo da Vinci, we return to the turbulent stage of the Italian Wars. In this episode, we pick up in the early 1520s, a period shaped by papal politics, dynastic rivalries, and the shifting fortunes of France and Spain. Highlights include: The succession of popes after Leo X: Hadrian VI and Clement VII,…

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LSEG Launches Private Market Blockchain, Hyperscale Buys More Bitcoin, Kredete Secures 22M, Polkadot Limits Supply, and more... 12:48

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LSEG Unveils Blockchain Platform to Revolutionize Private Market Transactions, Boosts UK Blockchain Finance Growth Hyperscale Doubles Down on Bitcoin Treasury Strategy Amid AI Expansion Plans African Fintech Kredete Secures $22M to Transform Cross-Border Payments with Stablecoin Tech Polkadot Sets Hard Supply Cap, Aims for Bitcoin-Like Scarcity Ami…

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The Chopping Block: USDH Bake-off—Native Markets, Validators & the “Beauty Contest” Debate - Ep. 903 56:55

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Hyperliquid’s USDH ticker set off the most dramatic “RFP” in recent memory. The crew breaks down why Native Markets ran away with validator support, whether the process was theater or strategy, and how the Bake-off became a marketing masterstroke—and potential leverage on Circle. We dig into Polymarket odds, the last‑minute Paxos bribery allegation…

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Figure Technology's IPO Soars, Avalanche Foundation Raises Capital, Hong Kong Eases Crypto Rules, Hong Kong Launches Tokenized Fund, and more... 12:08

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(0:10): Figure Technology's IPO Soars, Redefining Lending with Blockchain and AI Innovations (2:31): Avalanche Foundation Seeks $1 Billion for Crypto Treasury Push Amid Rising AVAX Prices (5:08): Hong Kong Proposes Easing Crypto Capital Rules to Attract Banks and Boost Market (6:51): Hong Kong's Cyberport Launches Pioneering Tokenized Fund Automati…

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Exploring Vibe Coding and the Future of Product Management with Gunnar Berger - JSJ 690 1:13:13

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In this episode of JavaScript Jabber, I sit down with Amazon product leader Gunnar Berger to dive into the fast-evolving world of vibe coding and how it’s reshaping the relationship between developers and product managers. Gunnar brings a wealth of experience from his years in IT, Citrix, and now Amazon, and shares a unique perspective on how AI to…

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Why the War Over the USDH Ticker on Hyperliquid Is Bullish for Crypto - Ep. 902 32:11

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Stablecoins are supposed to be boring, but the fight for the USDH ticker on Hyperliquid has turned into one of the most dramatic battles in crypto. From Ethena suddenly pulling out, to Paxos revamping its bid, to whispers of favoritism, the contest has put protocol-native stablecoins in the spotlight. In this episode, MegaETH co-founder Shuyao Kong…

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Klarna Launches U S IPO, Binance and Franklin Templeton Collaborate, NVIDIA Upgrades GeForce Now, SEC Delays Crypto ETF Approval, and more... 14:53

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Klarna Raises $1.37 Billion in U.S. IPO, Eyes U.S. Market Amid Profit Challenges Binance and Franklin Templeton Forge Alliance to Drive Blockchain Integration in Institutional Finance NVIDIA Unveils GeForce Now Upgrades with RTX 5080 Cards, Boosting Cloud Gaming Performance and Visuals SEC Delays Crypto ETF Decisions, Market Awaits XRP Approval by …

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How Pump.fun Plans to Beat Social Media Giants and Win Beyond Crypto - Ep.901 1:07:09

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Pump.fun rocketed to revenue, ran a blockbuster token sale, and then hit turbulence: rivals took share, the token slid, bots spammed launches, and critics cried “casino.” Now the team is fighting back with a dynamic creator-fee model, a liquidity foundation for cult communities, and an unapologetic push into live streaming and mobile. In this episo…

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Cboe Launches 10Year Crypto Futures, Congress Moves on Bitcoin Reserve, Ant Group Tokenizes $8B Assets, Largest Fintech Fest Opens, and more... 13:04

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(0:10): Cboe to Launch 10-Year Crypto Futures, Expanding Regulated Market Offerings (2:34): Congress Considers Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Bill, Aims for Crypto Transparency and Security (5:21): Ant Group Tokenizes $8 Billion in Energy Assets on Blockchain, Eyes Offshore Markets (8:12): World's Largest Fintech Fest 2025 in Mumbai: A Global Platform f…

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Bits + Bips: Hyperliquid’s USDH Bidding War & Why the DAT Model Is Broken - Ep. 900 1:06:36

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The fight for Hyperliquid’s USDH stablecoin is more than a ticker battle—it’s a referendum on how crypto distribution, governance, and incentives will shape the next trillion-dollar market. In this episode of Bits + Bips, Steve Ehrlich sits down with Delta Blockchain Fund’s Kavita Gupta, Galaxy Digital’s Alex Thorn, and Frax founder Sam Kazemian to…

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Crypto Packages Steal Funds, Infleqtion Merges for IPO, Kazakhstan Advances Digital Revolution, Forward Industries Boosts Solana Assets, and more... 11:00

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(0:10): Crypto Heist: Malicious npm Packages Divert Funds, Exposing Open-Source Security Flaws (2:07): Quantum Startup Infleqtion to Go Public in $1.8 Billion Merger with Churchill Capital Corp X (4:02): Kazakhstan Powers Ahead with Digital Revolution: Crypto Reserve, AI Ministry, and New Digital Hub (6:47): Forward Industries Announces $1.65B Sola…

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The Competition Is On. Who’ll Win the USDH Ticker on Hyperliquid? - Ep. 899 48:43

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The battle for Hyperliquid’s USDH ticker is a referendum on what crypto wants to be: a community-first public good, or a globally scaled, institution-ready product. With the clock ticking toward the proposal and voting deadlines, Agora’s Nick van Eck and Paxos Labs’ Bhau Kotecha lay out their cases—100% revenue back to users vs. 95% with enterprise…

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Trump Family Buys Crypto, Tether Transfers Bitcoin, Libra Co-Creator Warns Stripe, France Leads Europe's Blockchain, and more... 11:53

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(0:10): Trump Family Amasses $1.7B in Crypto, Plans Real Estate Tokenization Amid Market Volatility (2:31): Tether Transfers 37,000 BTC to XXI, Reaffirms Commitment to Bitcoin Amid Sell-Off Rumors (5:05): Libra Co-Creator Warns Stripe's Tempo Risks Centralizing Crypto, Repeating Libra's Failures (6:59): France Emerges as Europe's Blockchain Leader …

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Why Pokémon Cards Are Better Onchain (and How to Trade Them) - Ep. 898 1:10:22

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Pokémon cards are no longer just collectibles stuffed in a binder. They’re becoming liquid, tradable assets onchain. In this episode, Collector Crypt CEO Tuom Holmberg and Bitwise’s Danny Nelson explain how the project is reimagining the $100 billion trading card industry. From slashing eBay’s 13% fees to near-zero, to solving decades-old authentic…

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Bits + Bips: The Case for Why DATs Are Superior to Crypto ETFs - Ep. 897 54:56

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DATs aren’t done. They may just be getting started. In this episode, CoinFund’s Chris Perkins and Upexi’s Brian Rudick join Ram Ahluwalia and Steven Ehrlich to dissect why some DATs could outcompete ETFs for certain investors, the bullish accretion math behind premiums, and what makes a winning vehicle. We also dig into whether this is altcoin seas…

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The Chopping Block: Trump’s $22B “Gold Paper” DeFi Launch, Buybacks & Garbage Coins - Ep. 896 1:01:43

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Altcoin froth meets political theater. The team dissects World Liberty Financial’s explosive debut: a $22B token backed by the Trump family, a disputed Aave partnership, insider buybacks, and a “gold paper” instead of a whitepaper. We break down Justin Sun’s role, why critics call it crypto’s “garbage moat,” and how WLFi could become the Thanksgivi…