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From Lori Vallow and Pam Hupp, to cannibals, serial killers and more, We Saw the Devil is a true crime podcast that deep-dives into fascinating criminal cases, both solved and unsolved. Past and present. We discuss both notorious and lesser-known cases, turning over every rock and exploring every nook and cranny of the case. On this show, you don't have to wait 30 minutes through our life story to get into the case. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw- ...
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The house is on fire, and too many people are still pretending it’s just a candle burning. This is the first episode of Red, White & Bruised, a weekly political analysis series. Every Sunday, I’ll discuss the headlines and give my two cents on this current hellscape that we are living through. For the debut, we’re walking step by step through Donal…
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The story continues! Chris Chan...once a niche internet personality and meme figure, has become one of the most infamous names in online history. In this episode, Robin continues the story and documents Chris Chan’s final descent/break from reality, his spiral into delusion, escalating conflicts, and the disturbing events that turned his story from…
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After a long hiatus, I’m back...and I’m not holding back. In this brutally honest return episode, I talk about why I walked away from the mic: burnout, grief, disillusionment with the true crime space, and a world that feels increasingly unrecognizable. From Charlie Kirk to Chris Chan...we're back. Let's talk about what you can expect from WSTD in …
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Robin and Iris unpack the guilty verdict in the Lori Vallow trial—covering our favorite bits of testimony, our true opinions, and how the case unfolded in court. This podcast has covered the murders of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, and the influence of Chad Daybell in the past. Let's talk about Lori's 2nd trial, and what we're looking forward to next. …
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It's been a fascinating week! For this episode, Robin covers some of the current true crime headlines headlines from the week: The trials of Karen Read, Lori Vallow, and Bryan Kohberger...as well as what's going on with the nightmare anesthesiologist husband out of Hawaii, and yesterday's shooting of the wife of Weezer's bassist. It's been quite a …
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Robin is back! For this episode, she gives a life update and then covers some of the current true crime headlines headlines, from the upcoming Karen Read trial (Part 2: Electric Boogaloo), where questions of justice and accountability are at the forefront, to the updates surrounding Bryan Kohberger and the case of the Moscow 4. She also touches on …
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⚠️ Warning: This episode gets dark. Real dark. Listen at your own risk. More than 15 women have now come forward saying that iconic fantasy writer Neil Gaiman (Coraline, The Sandman, Good Omens, American Gods) either blurred the line of consent, or directly and violently assaulted them. On Monday, New York Magazine and its website Vulture published…
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As 2025 unfolds, the world seems more unhinged than ever. We're only 12 days in and everything is on fire. It's fine. In this episode, Robin sits down with friend and author/cultural commentator Jeff X Martin to dive into the madness of the year so far. From the devastating New Orleans New Year's Day Attack to the shocking Tesla Trump Hotel bombing…
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In this episode, Robin discusses the heartbreaking story of Mia Zapata, the charismatic lead singer of the punk band The Gits, whose life was tragically cut short in 1993. Mia was a rising star in Seattle’s grunge and punk music scene, known for her raw, emotional vocals and undeniable stage presence. Her shocking and brutal murder not only devasta…
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In this episode, Robin talks about what she's been up to, seeing Chelsea Wolfe, and then dives into the latest developments from the UAP sightings around the country. Why are they being covered on NPR and CNN? Also discussed is the Congressional hearing on UAPs, the intriguing intersection of psychics and law enforcement, and channeler Darryl Anka.…
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Two young Mormon missionaries (Sophie Thatcher, Chloe East) become ensnared in a deadly game of cat and mouse when they knock on the door of the diabolical Mr. Reed (Hugh Grant). Trapped in his home, they must turn to their faith if they want to make it out alive. For this episode, Robin reviews and discusses the newly-released A24 thriller/horror …
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Robin discusses the Terrifier franchise, as well as what she's been watching during the month of October. Is it time to move on from documentaries that discuss possible identities of unknown killers? Can Ryan Murphy do anything right at all? Let's discuss. ***This episode is unedited. --------------------- Email us and share your personal story: in…
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In this episode, Robin explores the multifaceted role of artificial intelligence in shaping the worlds of entertainment, art, and crime prevention. --------------------- Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevil Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast Robin's Instag…
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July 27th, 1996. Atlanta, Georgia. During a free concert at Atlanta’s Centennial Olympic Park, security guard Richard Jewell spotted an abandoned backpack. Authorities soon discovered that it contained a live bomb. The bomb detonated minutes later, but Jewell’s actions saved countless lives. Days later, he became the main suspect in the bombing. Th…
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ONE MORE EPISODE LEFT! Super quick transition episode this week covering just a couple events between 2017-2020, setting the stage for the fallout to come from the leaked incest call with Isabella Janke. The final episode will be coming at the end of the week, and then we are moving forward from Chris Chan! -------------- Email us and share your pe…
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Canton, Massachusetts. January 29th, 2022. It was a blizzard-laden night, where the wind was howling, snow was coming down in sheets, and visibility dwindled to near nothingness. Karen Read and her boyfriend, police officer John O'Keefe, go out to a bar and meet up with fellow BPD-area officers. They decide to move the party to one of their homes. …
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Robin is alive! For this episode, a quick check-in on the Suzanne Morphew case, as well as what's coming up, including the Bryan Kohberger trial, Delphi Murders case, etc. ------------------------------- .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevil Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/…
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In this episode, Robin delves into the hazy details surrounding what transpired at a Los Angeles bungalow on October 21st, 2003, that resulted in Elliott Smith receiving two stab wounds to the heart and passing away shortly thereafter. She will examine the possibility of foul play, a theory that many of his friends, some family, and fans, still bel…
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In this episode, Robin delves into the complex life and untimely death of Elliott Smith, the revered singer-songwriter known for his haunting melodies and introspective lyrics. Part 1 is an overview of his early life and rise to fame. Part 2 will explore the circumstances surrounding his tragic demise, raising questions about the official ruling of…
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After an emaciated 12yo boy appears at a neighbor's front door with duct tape tied around his wrists and ankles, In this episode, Robin delves into the perplexing case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, two seemingly ordinary and highly successful women...one a Youtube influencer, and the other a well-respected therapist...who were directly respo…
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For Part 19 of the Chris Chan Saga, Robin covers the spiraling Finachu Crisis, Chris having the police called on him at a My Little Pony/Brony convention, as well as one of the most infamous moments of Christory...the "wound" that was self-inflicted and made because of Subliminal Frequency Hypnosis Wizard Binaural Beats. ---------------------------…
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For this episode, Robin covers The Alphabet Murders, an unsolved series of murders in 1970s Rochester, NY that are linked together by one very, very odd detail. Who killed these three young girls? ----------------------------------------- .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com Patreon: …
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For this episode, Robin discusses THAT INTERVIEW. Controversial Youtuber Keffals asked Chris some hard questions we have all been waiting on answers for. Let's talk about it. ------------------------------------------ .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.co…
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For this episode, Robin covers case updates in the Jennifer Dulos case, Gypsy Rose, Oscar Pistorius and Chad Daybell / Lori Vallow. ------------------------------------------ .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com WSTD Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast Robin's Ins…
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For Part 17, Robin provides an update on Chris Chan's current happenings, and then continues the story. We return to 2015 to discusses the burgeoning Finachu Crisis, Chris' attempts at breast englargment, and his attempt to prostitute himself. ------------------------------------------ .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected]
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Robin is back! For this episode, she and Iris cover the Lori Vallow (Arizona trial) and Chad Daybell (Idaho) trail updates! ------------------------------------------ .Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevil Discord: https://discord.gg/gDevRry…
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For episode 16 of The Chris Chan Saga, Robin covers Chris' newfound community, his change in stance on LGBT+ issues, as well as the final judgment from the Game Stop Pepperspray Saga. Does Chris finally face repercussions for his actions? Does he get off Scot-free once again? Don't forget to join us this Friday at 7pm CST for our live Discord chat!…
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In this episode, Robin tells the story of Lois Gibson, a forensic artist whose talent transcends the ordinary. After a brutal assault and attack that nearly left her dead, Lois' journey is a testament to the power of art in the pursuit of justice...and it will earn her the Guinness Book of World Records title of "Most Successful Forensic Artist of …
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48 Hours” correspondent Erin Moriarty takes you inside true-crime investigations like no one else, in her podcast “My Life of Crime”. In the new season, Erin delvesinto the labyrinth of crime within families and the secrets that kept them together or tore themapart. Here’s a preview of the “My Life of Crime” season premiere, “Twisted Twins: Who Kil…
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For this episode, Robin continues the Chris Chan Saga. In this episode, Chris attempts to become a sperm donor to lesbian couples, has some issues with his new piercing, loses a new sweetheart and manages to get arrest for a felony AGAIN. ------------------------------------------------------------ Email us and share your personal story: info@wesaw…
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Robin discusses major changes coming to the podcast. ------------------------------------------------------------ Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevil Discord: https://discord.gg/X2qYXdB4 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevil Become…
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For this episode, Robin covers September 2014 of Christory. Chris embraces their new identity as a "lesbian identified male," gets a...um...interesting piercing, and not only finds a new sweetheart, but also a new grift. ------------------------------------------------------------ Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Websi…
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***Warning: This episode is not for the faint of heart. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode, Robin and Iris take you on a chilling journey into the depths of extreme horror with the controversial (and still widely banned!) 1987 film, Nekromantik. We dissect the film's plot, visuals, cult status, and yes...those sex scenes. Join us as we…
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For this episode, Robin reacts to the video that Chris Chan just posted, where he denies having had sexual relations with Barbara, his own mother. Robin doesn't believe him, and here's why. ---------------------------------------------------------- Email us and share your personal story: [email protected] Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.com …
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For this episode, Robin & Iris discuss The Nun 2 and Conjuring 3, two films from The Conjuring universe. This Saturday, our necrophilia episode! We review the film Nekromantik and then discuss why mortuaries and funeral homes prefer female employees over male. (I think you probably know the answer). Also, Robin tells the story of David Fuller, the …
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For this episode, Iris joins Robin to talk about the insane breaking news-Chris Chan posted their first Youtube video in more than 2 years. Did Chris get the help he so desperately needed? Who is the new gal pal? Listen to find out. Link to Chris Chan's newest Youtube video, the first in 2 years:Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu Prime Resurrected and Retur…
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For this episode, Robin covers the next chapter in Christory-from a raging house fire that "took everything," and the suprirsing kindness of trolls, to penis-tucking and Chris' new outlook on his gender...a lesbian-identified male. ------------------------------------------------------------ Email us and share your personal story: info@wesawthedevi…
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In this episode, we delve into a rollercoaster of obsessions, legal troubles, and controversial encounters. From Chris's relentless quest for love, bemoaning his virginity, and a surprising foray into sex work, his life takes unexpected twists. We witness his bizarre mall ruse and how he sees vengeance in changing a voicemail greeting. Alongside th…
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Yesterday, Wednesday, September 28th, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) announced that remains belonging to Suzanne Morphew had been found and positively identified. What do we now know? What's going to happen to Barry Morphew? ----------------------------------------------------------- Email us and share your personal story: info@wesawthe…
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Welcome to another Countdown to Halloween episode! In this one, Robin and Iris delve into the world of supernatural horror with a focus on two films from the same universe: James Wan's "The Conjuring 2" and Corin Hardy's "The Nun." Join us as we unravel the dark secrets, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and the eerie real-life inspirations that make th…
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What if you were trafficked into a cult...or were mauled by a grizzly bear...or were stabbed 27 times by a serial killer - what would you do? This is Actually Happening brings you extraordinary true stories of life-changing events told by the people who lived them. In their newest season, you’ll hear from a man who watched as his wife developed 21 …
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Brazilian fart porn. Mini skirts. Sexual dances in a Wal-Mart dressing room. The loss of a legend. Chris Chan and Barb Chan are arrested and catch felonies. Welcome to The Chris Chan Saga, Part 11. Supplemental video on Youtube: Chris Chan Episode 11, supplemental videos. ***The audio is a little bit mechanical-sounding in this episode. It will be …
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The Generation Why Podcast released its first episode in 2012 and pioneered the true crime genre in the podcasting world. Two friends, Aaron & Justin, break down theories and give their opinions on unsolved murders, controversies, mysteries and conspiracies. Follow The Generation Why Podcast on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You…
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What did you do during the pandemic? I learned how to make sourdough bread and watched Tiger King. Justin Glanville, on the other hand, decided to get to the bottom of the brutal murders of his parents' close friends, Mary Petry and William Sproat. A 53-year-old cold case, it wouldn't be a small undertaking. Investigative journalist Justin Glanvill…
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For fifteen years you could call a private number in Manhattan and anonymously apologize for anything. It was called The Apology Line. This is the story of the phone line and the man at the other end who became consumed by his own creation. He was known as “Mr. Apology.” As thousands of callers flooded the line, confessing to everything from shopli…
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For this episode, Robin discusses early 2011 in the Chris Chan story. Chris finally thinks he's found an "in" with a trolling group online, yet says some of the most disturbing stuff to date. Jackie, his beloved gal pal and potential sweetheart, is in and out of his life due to her high-demand for videos and desire for Chris to better himself. But …
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In this episode, Robin and Iris dissect and compare two of the most notorious and gut-wrenching horror films ever made: "The Green Inferno" and "Cannibal Holocaust." First on the menu is "The Green Inferno" (2013), Eli Roth's homage and modern take on the cannibal horror genre Robin and Iris discuss the film's intense scenes, exploring its controve…
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We're finished with the Classic Chris Chan era and moving on to the Dark Ages. For this episode, Robin provides a recent Chris update and then continues the terrifying story. Is he really living back at home with this his alleged victim, his mother? ------------------------------------------ Email us and share your personal story: info@wesawthedevi…
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For this episode, Robin covers Chris' conflict with a troll known as Liquid Chris, who pretended to be the real Chris by claiming ownership of the Sonichu intellectual property. She also touches on Chris' disturbing behavior, which includes him pretending to be Liquid Chris to communicate with Liquid Chris' girlfriend, Kacey. Chris discovers the jo…
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For this episode, Robin is joined by Iris to discuss the Taylor Schabusiness murder case and trial. Schabusiness was charged and convicted of decapitating and dismembering her lover, and is awaiting sentencing. First, Robin covers the updates in the Dennis Rader/BTK case before she and Iris delve into the topic at hand. ----------------------------…
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