Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan on surviving the transition from dev to founder.
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Adam Wathan Podcasts
A podcast for developers interested in building great software products. Every episode, Adam Wathan is joined by a guest to talk about everything from product design and user experience to unit testing and system administration.
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Phillies Extra is your deep dive into all things Phillies on The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Gameday Central. Hosted by Inquirer Phillies reporter Scott Lauber, each episode brings you insider analysis, exclusive interviews with players and experts, and more to cover the hottest topics with the Phillies and across Major League Baseball. Don’t miss it — the conversation starts here!
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Interested in building your own SaaS company? Follow the journey of Transistor.fm as they bootstrap a podcast hosting startup.
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Ben Orenstein interviews great programmers about their craft.
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Developer Experience is a podcast brought to you by Algolia. We chat with guests who build products for developers about their developer experience strategy, what it means for them and why it’s important.
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The only engineering podcast with a 2 drink minimum! Full stack developers Jared Palmer and Ken Wheeler have peer-to-peer conversations with world-class engineers about software development.
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As the offseason begins and the Phillies sort through their roster, they will focus on trying to improve an offense that went cold again in the postseason. Hitting coach Kevin Long sat down with Phillies Extra to assess Bryce Harper's season and discuss his future, handicap Kyle Schwarber's chances of re-signing, the progress made by Bryson Stott a…
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Dusty Wathan just completed his 20th season in the Phillies' organization, the last seven as the third base coach and catching instructor on the major league coaching staff. Wathan joined Phillies Extra to discuss the controversial bunt play in Game 2 of the NLDS against the Dodgers, J.T. Realmuto's remarkable longevity behind the plate and upcomin…
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It's always a good time to sit down with former Phillies slugger Greg Luzinski. But it's particularly timely this week, as the team marks the 45th anniversary of its first World Series championship. The Bull discusses his starring role in the 1980 NL Championship Series, his career with the Phillies, the current team's struggle to get over the post…
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The Phillies' season is over. Larry Andersen is the perfect guest to help us make sense of what happened in the divisional round against the Dodgers because he has seen it all in 17 years as a major-league pitcher and 28 as a Phillies broadcaster. Andersen sits down with The Inquirer's Scott Lauber on the latest episode of "Phillies Extra" to discu…
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As the Phillies prepare to open the postseason, there's no better time to sit down with the greatest player in franchise history. Mike Schmidt joins "Phillies Extra" to share his thoughts on the team's quest to win the World Series, Kyle Schwarber's big season, Pete Rose's Hall of Fame chances, and more.…
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Adam Wainwright won 200 games over 18 seasons as a pitching mainstay with the St. Louis Cardinals and had some memorable duels with Zack Wheeler, Kyle Schwarber, Bryce Harper, and other Phillies players. Wainwright joins "Phillies Extra" to share his thoughts on the Phillies' chances for a long playoff run, his experience as Harrison Bader's teamma…
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The Phillies planned for Andrew Painter to make his major league debut this season. Instead, he posted a 5.40 ERA in triple-A. But after missing two seasons because of an elbow injury that required surgery, the 22-year-old top prospect stayed healthy for 26 starts and 118 innings, more than doubling his career total in the minors. Painter sat down …
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Justin and Jon reconnect after a two-year podcasting hiatus. What's happened since their last episode? Lots! They talk about big changes in their personal lives, and then move on to how they're thinking about Transistor as a business. These discuss burnout and motivation, the evolution of the podcasting industry, the pressure of being a leader, and…
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Nobody will forget Brad Lidge’s last pitch in the 2008 World Series. Seventeen years later, the Phillies have a closer with championship-clinching stuff. Lidge joined The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber to discuss Jhoan Duran, what it takes to close out playoff games, the remade Phillies bullpen, and more.
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It's September, the stretch run is upon us, and the Phillies are making some final touches to the roster as they try to sew up a playoff spot and repeat as NL East champs. General manager Preston Mattingly joins The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss the recent additions of pitchers Tim Mayza and Walker Buehler, a challenging season in triple A for…
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In 1996, David Cone was diagnosed with an aneurysm in his right arm — a condition that threatened more than just his baseball career. So when news broke that Zack Wheeler had a blood clot removed and is now set to undergo surgery for venous thoracic outlet syndrome, Cone could relate. Ahead of his call of the Phillies-Braves on ESPN’s Sunday Night …
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A first-round pick by the Phillies in 2024, Dante Nori is ranked as the No. 6 prospect in their system by MLB.com. He also happens to be an avid collector of his own baseball cards. The single-A outfielder joins The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber to talk about his development over his first full minor league season, his NBA coach father, the pursuit of hi…
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153: DHH – Omarchy and Designing Your Own OS on Arch Linux
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1:16:25I talk to DHH about Omarchy, the carefully curated distribution of Arch Linux he's been refining for the last few months. We talk about stuff like: How did he discover Arch + Hyprland in the first place? What even is Arch, what even is Hyprland, and how the fuck do you make the mouse show up in Linux? Should you really be afraid of trying to mainta…
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Since 2022, Matt Strahm has been one of baseball’s most reliable relievers — and a key anchor in the Phillies’ bullpen. Off the field, he’s a passionate baseball card collector. Strahm joins The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber to discuss the bullpen’s outlook with new closer Jhoan Duran, helping Bryce Harper build his own card collection, and more.…
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Gary Matthews on his friendship with Ryne Sandberg
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40:38The baseball world is mourning the loss of Hall of Fame second baseman Ryne Sandberg. Former Phillies outfielder Gary Matthews became close with Sandberg while playing alongside him on one of the most beloved teams in Cubs history in 1984. Matthews joins The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber to share stories and memories of a baseball icon.…
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Mike Lieberthal and breaking down the trade deadline
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37:49Mike Lieberthal spent 13 seasons with the Phillies and holds the franchise record for most games caught. Lieberthal joins The Inquirer's Scott Lauber on the Phillies' alumni weekend to discuss the induction of his former teammate, Jimmy Rollins, and former GM Ed Wade into the team's Wall of Fame. Plus, a full recap of the Phillies at the trade dead…
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At 40 years old and entering his 17th MLB season, David Robertson is chasing another World Series ring. He sat down with The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber to talk about why he’s still on the mound — and how he hopes to help the Phillies make another title run.
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Phillies owner John Middleton was 9 years old when Dick Allen burst onto the scene in 1964 as National League Rookie of the Year. With Allen set to be inducted into the Hall of Fame on July 27, Middleton joins The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss the late Phillies slugger's life and career.
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Ed Wade built major-league rosters for 12 seasons, including eight years with the Phillies. With baseball's trade deadline coming up on July 31, Wade joins The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss what the weeks leading up to the deadline are like for a general manager, his upcoming induction into the Phillies' Wall of Fame, and more.…
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It has been a life-changing month for Otto Kemp, who made his major league debut, collected his first hit and home run, and settled into a role with the Phillies. This week, he sits down with The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss his rise from playing for a Division II college program, going undrafted, and preparing for a career in finance if base…
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Orion Kerkering has had the look of a future closer since he made his major league debut late in the 2023 season, and last week, he picked up his first two career saves. He sits down with The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss the adrenaline rush of pitching the ninth inning, being coached by the late Roy Halladay, why former teammate Jeff Hoffman …
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Harris Kenny was a long-time listener of the podcast, and dreamed about building his own software product. After multiple attempts, over 5 years, he finally did it. How? He shares his experiences transitioning from a corporate job to entrepreneurship. He also discusses the challenges of user engagement, the exploration of various SaaS ideas, and th…
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Billy Wagner was among the most dominant closers in baseball history, and next month, he will be inducted to the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y. He sits down with The Inquirer's Scott Lauber to discuss his two dominant seasons with the Phillies, playing at the peak of the Phillies-Mets rivalry, coaching a Virginia high school to four state champi…
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Don Mattingly was a defining figure in baseball during his 14-year career with the Yankees. Now, his son Preston Mattingly is making his mark in his first season as the Phillies general manager, following three years leading the team’s minor league system. For a special Father’s Day weekend episode of Phillies Extra, the Mattinglys sit down with Th…
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Roy Halladay threw the second perfect game in Phillies history — and only the 20th ever in Major League Baseball — on May 29, 2010, in Miami. Tom McCarthy had the call on television, and even now, he considers it the No. 1 moment in his 18 years in the Phillies' broadcast booth. To mark the 15th anniversary of that unforgettable game, McCarthy sits…
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You’ve heard of Tom Brady’s “TB12 Method” — now Phillies superstar Bryce Harper is sharing his personal playbook. In an exclusive interview with The Inquirer’s Scott Lauber on the latest episode of Phillies Extra, Harper opens up about his all-natural approach to nutrition, why clean eating is crucial to his success, and how it’s helped him stay sh…
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2024 year in review and plans for 2025
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1:28:22In this episode, Adam and Ben sit down to reflect on how things went in 2024 in their business and personal lives and talk about their plans for 2025.By Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan
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Giuuunta! Motivating yourself when you're not in startup mode
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1:11:56Bootstrapping a business is like getting a plane to lift off the ground. But what do you do once the plane is in the air? Dave Giunta and Justin Jackson recorded a recent phone call about maintaining motivation after the initial startup phase. How does founder energy shift once you've achieved your early goals? Dave prods Justin to find new sources…
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Adam and Ben are back on the mics after nine months to give an update on their lives. Timestamps (00:00) - Catching up (00:18) - Fitness update (18:13) - House updates (24:53) - Ben update (35:11) - Tailwind Labs update Links Adam on X Ben on XBy Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan
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Adam Wathan, Creator of Tailwind CSS
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1:00:06Ben and Adam Wathan cover the development and reimagining of Tailwind CSS, focusing on the release of Tailwind 4.0. They delve into the motivation behind the rewrite, the challenges faced, and the approach to maintaining backward compatibility. The conversation covers topics related to software versioning, open-source maintenance, backward compatib…
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Adam Wathan: how small startups hire employees (Tailwind CSS)
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1:34:42How do founders of small bootstrapped companies hire new employees? Adam Wathan got over 1600 people who applied for two new roles at Tailwind Labs (a small team of six people). They ended up hiring two people, but neither of them actually applied. This wasn't how Adam expected (or hoped) this process would go. There were lots of surprising takeawa…
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Ben and Matt discuss the role of a product engineer and Matt's journey as a content creator. Matt shares his experience working at a consulting agency and how it shaped his perspective on engineering. They also discuss the benefits of working in-person and the importance of the quality of coworkers. Matt reflects on his motivation for content creat…
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Hiring for tiny teams with Justin Jackson
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1:39:02Adam just wrapped up a big hiring project at Tailwind Labs, adding both a new engineer and a new designer to the team. In this episode he talks through the process with Justin Jackson, founder of Transistor, to compare notes and record what worked, what didn't, and how he will approach hiring in the future after going through this process. Timestam…
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In this conversation, Ben and Derrick discuss the challenges of growing a business and the decision to target specific market segments. They explore the trade-offs between serving a broad audience and focusing on a niche market. They also discuss the technical choices and architectural decisions in building a product, with Derrick sharing his posit…
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Thorsten Ball, Software Engineer at Zed
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1:12:58In this episode, Ben chats with Thorsten Ball. This conversation fits neatly into two halves - in the first, Ben and Thorsten go deep on how to differentiate yourself, work in public, and make it easy for people to hire you. In the second part of the conversation, they talk more specifically about Zed, why it matters, and how it’s being built. Link…
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After almost six years, Ben has stepped away from day-to-day work on Tuple and moved to its board. Friend of the pod Aaron Francis interviews Ben about the whole beautiful, complicated, enriching experience. As a treat, the boys dive into what's next for Aaron as well.By Ben Orenstein and Aaron Francis
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Andreas Kling, Creator of SerenityOS and the Ladybird Browser
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1:11:20Ben interviews Andreas Kling, creator of SerenityOS and the Ladybird browser. They talk about the concept of lifestyle software and how it relates to the development of SerenityOS, Andreas’ vision of creating a Zen garden for developers, and the benefits of using a mono repo and a unified language in the development process. They also touch on the …
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Fable Tales, Staff Engineer at Stripe
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1:05:31In this conversation, Fable and Ben dig deep on building a technical career that balances programming and company leadership. Fable shares their experience working at Stripe and the different roles they have held, including being a technical advisor to the CTO. They also discuss Fable's career move from being a hands-on programmer to role where les…
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In this episode, Ben interviews Josh Pigford, founder of Maybe.co, about the company’s journey from VC-backed startup -> closed startup -> open source project -> funded open source project. They discuss JavaScript and Rails trade-offs, the challenges of building a personal finance software, and the operational difficulties of building a business ba…
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A panel discussion on 37signals' first ONCE product, the launch of Campfire ("pay for it once, install it, and run it on your own server"). Ian Landsman, Tyler Tringas, and Justin Jackson share what they expected to happen before the launch, what did happen, and what it means for indie hackers and bootstrappers who want to launch SaaS companies. Is…
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Caleb Porzio, Creator of AlpineJS and Laravel Livewire
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1:24:29In this conversation, Ben interviews Caleb Porzio, the creator of AlpineJS and Laravel Livewire. The discussion ranges from discussions about life in general to specific testing practices and which notebook Caleb uses. Links Tuple.app - The best app for pair programming AlpineJS Laravel Livewire Caleb's VSCode Course Takeaways Apply core truths to …
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How Ben and David bootstrapped the Acquired podcast
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1:07:50Fast Company called Acquired "the #1 tech podcast sensation." I've been a huge fan of the show for years. So, I was surprised when they contacted me and wanted to switch to Transistor for podcast hosting! Since switching, they've had a breakout year. Their clips started showing up everywhere on my social media feed; they had chart-topping episodes …
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In this conversation, Ben interviews Taylor Otwell, the creator of Laravel. They discuss everything from the age-old argument of tabs vs. spaces to the origins of Laravel and how Taylor has turned it into a thriving, sustainable business. Links: Laravel, the framework Taylor created Tuple, used by the Laravel team to collaborates Takeaways Coding p…
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Building the HEY Calendar with Jason Fried
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51:0037signals have talked a lot about how they build new features for existing products using Shape Up, where they carefully hammer the scope to avoid letting anything ever drag on for more than six weeks. But there's not a lot of information out there about how they approach new product development, where it can take over a year to actually get the fi…
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In this episode, Adam and Ben sit down to evaluate how things went in 2023 in their business and personal lives. The dudes share kind of a lot in this one! More personal flavor than usual. Lots about fitness, mental health, gathering, and rascally-ness. Timestamps (00:00) - Ben and Adam review 2023 (03:17) - Ben wants to be more of a rascal (07:58)…
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Revisiting the Tailwind Labs business model
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45:55In this episode, Adam and Ben talk through the Tailwind Labs business model. Is Tailwind UI the best way for the company to make money? Or is there a different model where incentives are better aligned with growing the Tailwind CSS community as a whole? One potential model is offering a marketplace for templates and UI kits. Timestamps (00:00) - Bl…
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In this episode, Adam and Ben catch up on recent events at Tailwind Labs and Tuple. Adam spoke at Rails World and the impromptu Tailwind CSS meetup in Amsterdam. Ben shares his learnings from some recent feature launches at Tuple. Timestamps (00:00) - Burpees (02:47) - Rails World + Tailwind CSS Amsterdam meetup (11:27) - Launching Tuple Triggers (…
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