Best Aaron Davison Podcasts (2025)

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New, Improved Jabari Smith? | Reed Sheppard vs. Steven Adams? | Aaron Holiday vs. JD Davison? 34:18

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5d ago34:18

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Rockets Analyst Cooper Klein (Co-Host of Upside Swings) about Jabari Smith improvement, team FT Shooting, the Reed Sheppard vs. Steven Adams battle & if he trust Aaron Holiday or JD Davison as a PG bench option. Today's Show Presented by FanDuel (:25) Impressive Rookies in Preseason? (2:47) Jabari's Aggression? (5:40) Im…

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Bonus Show: Seahawks Insider asks Host Robert Land about Texans MNF Matchup! 1:16:12

22h ago1:16:12

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Seahawks Insider & BLeav Colleague Brandon Cain turns the table on Host Robert Land during his 'The Hawk's Nest Podcast’ - as we preview the Texans-Seahawks Monday Night Game. Brandon asks Robert about the key matchups & Robert explains what the national people get wrong about the Texans. Today's Show is Presented by FanDuel! Subscribe on Youtube, …

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Matt Payne, Garth Tander, David Reynolds and Lee Holdsworth 59:57

14h ago59:57

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Fresh off their Bathurst win, Matt Payne and Garth Tander chat with former winners David Reynolds and Lee Holdsworth about the ins and outs of the race, how the wild weather played a part, and what the following days have been like. They reflect on the best performances of the day, the most memorable crashes of the day, and delve into how they’ve c…

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Can Stroud Get Revenge against Darnold? | Seahawks Insider on Key Texans Matchups on MNF! 35:19

1d ago35:19

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Seahawks Insider & The Hawk's Nest Podcast Host Brandon Cain abou key Texans-Seahawks matchups, the change to Sam Darnold from Geno Smith, Coach Mike MacDonald & where the Seahawks can take advantage of the Texans weaknesses. Today's Show Presented by FanDuel! (:30) Last Texans-Seahawks Matchup & only Texans win over Sea…

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Stroud Taking Underrated Jump? | Hated Texan Earns Respect? | Popovich Popping! 40:22

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Texans Analyst Garrett Williams (aka Texans Stressans) @TexansCommenter if he likes early Bye Week, how Popovich has improved O-Line, Stroud's under the radar improvement & if it's time to give Schultz respect. Plus, can they still win AFC South, biggest Texans weakness & positions or players to target at trade deadline.…

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Could Sengun Make All-NBA? | Reed Sheppard:5th Starter? | Is JD Davison Legit? 35:18

11d ago35:18

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Co-Host of the Bradeaux & Will Show, Rockets Analyst Bradeaux, about his preseason takes, Sengun's improvement, how Amen looks, what he's seeing from Sheppard, if the Rockets can beat the Over/Under Win Total and if Steven Adams is ahead of his time. Today's Show Presented by FanDuel! (1:16) Is Sengun Rockets PG? (2:25) …

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Astros Trade Targets? | Yanier Trade Potential? | Dana Brown, Espada are Back! 41:11

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Texans vs. Ravens Live Postgame! | Stroud's Best Performance? | Hutchinson 2 TD's! 52:42

15d ago52:42

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Bleav Host Robert Land, Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) & Houston radio legend Jayson Braddock break down the Texans-Ravens Game. Have the Texans figured out the offense or is it their competition? How great was Stroud? We hit on Xavier Hutchinson's 1st 2 TD's, a serious run game, the Texans revenge & an under…

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Texans vs. Titans Live Postgame! | Rookies Woody Marks, Jayden Higgins Break Out! 1:03:37

22d ago1:03:37

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) & Houston radio legend Jayson Braddock break down the Texans-Titans Game. What are the big storylines from the Texans 26-0 win? We talk Danielle Hunter, Woody Marks, Jayden Higgins, CJ Stroud, Nico Collins, Dalton Schultz, Nick Caley & much more. Today's…

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Can Texans Get 1st Win vs. Tennessee? | Titans Insider on Cam Ward, Coach Brian Callahan! 39:24

25d ago39:24

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Titans Insider & Bleav in Titans Host Chris Belcher if Cam Ward looks better than Will Levis early on, how Coach Brian Callahan looks, the key matchups & if the Titans or Texans pull off their 1st win. Today's Show is Presented by FanDuel! (1:00) How is early Cam Ward compare to Will Levis? (3:00) Does Titans O-Line simi…

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Will Davison, Craig Lowndes, Garth Tander, and Mark Winterbottom 1:08:30

25d ago1:08:30

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This episode of Drivers only is a big one as some of the ‘fine wines’ of Supercars, Will Davison, Craig Lowndes, Garth Tander, and Mark Winterbottom sat down for over an hour to talk the build-up to Bathurst. They reflect on the Supercars Enduro at The Bend and what could be done to drum up the drama next time around. Will did his part to try and s…

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Can Rockets Replace Fred VanVleet? | Is Amen or Sheppard ready? | Trade Options? 42:20

27d ago42:20

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Bryson AKA ⁨@RedNationBlogga⁩ about Fred VanVleet's injury and its effect on the Rockets. Who replaces VanVleet's production & value on the roster? Are there title hopes gone? What are a couple potential trade options? (:41) How Tough is it to replace VanVleet? (3:00) Is Depth an issue? (8:58) Was VanVleet injury avoidab…

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Texans vs. Jaguars Live Postgame Show! | Is this DeMeco's Last Season? | Time to Fire Caley? 59:56

29d ago59:56

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Bleav Host Robert Land, Battle Red Blog Contributor Clayton Anderson & Texans Probe Host Jacob Barzilla break down the Texans-Jaguars Game. It's CJ Stroud vs. Trevor Lawrence. We go thru the key moments & look at who stood out & who did not. Does DeMeco Need to Go? How soon can Caley be fired? Is Stroud S2 score more real than we thought? Why is To…

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Can CJ Stroud Keep Texans Road Jags Streak Alive? | Jags Insider Breaks Down Texans-Jags Matchups! 30:22

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Jags Insider Travis D. Holmes (Co-Host of ‘The Duval Dive') about new Head Coach Liam Coen, the new DC, Trevor Lawrence & all the key matchups. Presented by FanDuel! (:55) New Jags Head Coach Liam Coen impressing? (2:33) New Jags DC making a splash? (4:06) Trevor Lawrence improvements? (7:20) Breaking down Travis Hunter'…

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Texans vs. Buccaneers Live Postgame! | Texans Offense Still Stuck in Mud 1:01:52

1M ago1:01:52

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) break down the Texans-Buccaneers Monday Night Game. Is Stroud getting better? Who looked good & bad on the O-Line? We get hyped about Jaylin Noel, Woody Marks & Ersery. Plus, we hit on the key plays & missed opportunities the Texans offense had. Presente…

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Are DeMeco's Texans Low IQ Team? | Stroud Week 1: Good or Bad? | Replacing Cade Stover? 27:44

1M ago27:44

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Texans Analyst Jacob Barzilla (with Texans Probe) about the intelligence of a DeMeco Ryans' coached team, Nick Caserio poor roster construction, Laken Tomlinson's terrible performance, Pierce & Ogunbowale's value, the use of Jaylin Noel and CJ Stroud's recurring major issue. We're presented by FanDuel! (:34) How do you r…

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Texans vs. Rams Live Postgame! Ogunbowale & DeMeco Blow It? 56:07

1M ago56:07

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) break down the Texans-Rams Season Opener. Who looked good? Who struggled? Presented by FanDuel Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #texans #Rams Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about o…

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Will Stroud Upset Stafford? | Rams Insider on Stafford Injury, McVay vs. DeMeco! 28:55

2M ago28:55

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Derek Ciapala (Rams Talk podcast Host) about Stafford's injury, McVay vs. DeMeco, the Rams offseason, the Texans chances, the key matchups on both sides and where the Rams can attack the Texans. Presented by FanDuel (:27) Nick Caley Thoughts? (2:00) Sean McVay Frustration in LA? (3:59) Will Texans see real Stafford? Heal…

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Kevin Durant Film Room: How will KD Fit in Rockets Offense? 50:50

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Rockets Analyst Cooper Klein (Host of Upside Swings podcast) what Kevin Durant will look like in a Rockets offense. Klein breaks down all the different things KD can do and we look at the size of the Rockets front office after GM Rafael Stone latest comments. Presented by FanDuel! (2:00) Breaking Down Durant Film (15:46)…

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Texans Final Roster Breakdown! | Surviving without Joe Mixon | Surprise Cuts? 31:27

2M ago31:27

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) break down the Texans Final Roster & look at Joe Mixon's absence early after being put on IR. Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #texans Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our coll…

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Texans vs. Lions Live Postgame | Stock Up or Down on Final Few Roster Spots? 42:31

2M ago42:31

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Battle Red Blog Contributor Clayton Anderson break down the Texans-Lions Preseason Game. Who looked good? Who struggled? Texans Rookie Report? Presented by FanDuel Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #texans #Lions Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about ou…

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James Moffat, Lee Holdsworth, and Tony D’Alberto 52:49

2M ago52:49

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With co-driver season set to ramp up we thought it was only fair to get James Moffat, Lee Holdsworth, and Tony D’Alberto off the couch and into the studio for this episode of Drivers Only. They petition for a name change for the tyres to be called the fast tyre and the slow tyre, and chat through what they are doing to stay race fit with Lee’s wate…

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Astros Pitcher Stole Mascot Head for $1K? | Scipio Spinks on JR Richard, Cedeño, Dierker & Jose Cruz 43:39

2M ago43:39

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Astros Pitcher Scipio Spinks about Johnny Bench ending his career, stealing the Braves mascot head, impersonating Lou Brock, getting advice from Don Wilson & Bob Gibson - and his memories of Jose Cruz, JR Richard, Larry Dierker, Joe Torre & his famous stuff gorilla. Plus, Robert talks Astros disastrous decline and the Te…

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Texans vs. Panthers Live Postgame Show! | Chubb & OL Look Great! 39:25

2M ago39:25

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Contributor Thomas Chavarria @ThirdCoastTom (with The Bullpen podcast) break down the Texans-Panthers Preseason Game. Who looked good? Who struggled? Texans Rookie Report? We hit on Stroud, Chubb, OL & who's stock up & who was stock down. Presented by FanDuel Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #texa…

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Rockets New Schedule: Good or Bad? | OKC Opening Day! | Lakers Christmas Present? 33:21

2M ago33:21

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Rockets Analyst Bryson AKA ⁨@RedNationBlogga⁩ about the Rockets new schedule. Is it good or bad? What are his thoughts on OKC on Opening Day & the Lakers on Christmas? Can the Rockets win the Championship? Today's show is Presented by FanDuel! (:35) Rockets vs. Thunder Opening Day! (3:00) Amen vs. SGA (6:33) Can Rockets …

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Texans vs. Vikings Live Postgame Show! 46:49

2M ago46:49

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Bleav Host Robert Land & Battle Red Blog Contributor Clayton Anderson break down the Texans-Vikings 1st Preseason Game. We look at the standouts with the OL, the rookies who impressed & which Texans struggled. Presented by FanDuel Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #texans #vikings #cjstroud Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz…

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What Can Rockets Learn from OKC? (Thunder Insider Matt Tierney Joins Us) 39:27

2M ago39:27

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Thunder Insiders (Hosts of Bleav's Topic Thunder podcast) Matt Tierney & Dylan Huntzinger about the Rockets offseason, Durant's signing, what Rockets fans should know about KD, OKC's big offseason moves, a Thunder weakness, the Rockets-OKC matchup, Amen vs. SGA & what the Rockets can learn from OKC. We're presented by Fa…

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Playing The Long Game In Sync Licensing With Brit Fox 35:30

3M ago35:30

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Brit Fox is an award-winning producer, songwriter, vocalist, and audio engineer. Rooted heavily in alternative urban music, her sounds also draw influence from pop, Latin, and R&B. She is the owner and founder of Cleveland-based Brit Fox Studios. Her work has been featured in a wide range of high-profile placements, including ABC, MTV, BET, VH1, Ne…

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Did Durant Almost End Up in Minnesota? | Are Wolves Threat to Rockets? | T-Wolves Insider Joins Us! 38:57

3M ago38:57

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Timberwolves Insider, Bleav Colleague & 'Running with the Timberwolves' Host Gabe Anderson about the Durant trade that didn't happen, the Wolves-Rockets potential matchup & what he thought of Minnesota's offseason. Presented by FanDuel. (1:27) Was does Owner Glen Taylor leaving mean for Wolves? (4:59) Potential KD to Wol…

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Can Will Anderson Make JJ Watt-Like Leap? | Who Looks Good or Bad in Texans Camp? 32:54

3M ago32:54

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Texans Probe Host Jacob Barzilla about Will Anderson potential leap, standouts in the TE, RB, OL & WR Groups & if the old OL Coach is taking shots at Slowik. Plus, we hit on the FanDuel Super Bowl odds & where the Texans fit in. (1:03) Is Will Anderson about to make giant leap? (2:02) Is TE Group looking better? Is Dalto…

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Correa Trade: Good or Bad? | Breaking down Astros Trade Deadline: Sanchez, Urias & Whiff on Cease 40:40

3M ago40:40

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Astros Analyst & Crawfish Boxes Contributor Clayton Anderson what he thought about Correa's return to the Astros and the deals for Ramon Urias & Jesus Sanchez. Plus, we hit on the deals the Astros couldn't make & whiffing on a Starting Pitcher. Houston Sports Talk is Presented by Fanduel! (:28) Correa Trade Emotional Imp…

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Lakers Insider on Dorian Finney-Smith, Rockets Offseason & Skinny Luka 34:05

3M ago34:05

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Lakers Insider Stephen (Creator of LakersGround.net) about Dorian Finney-Smith's time with the Lakers, the Lakers view of the Rockets offseason, the Kevin Durant trade & Clint Capela. Plus, he hits on Skinny Luka, the Lakers offseason & where both teams fit in the Western Conference (1:11) Finney-Smith's time in LA (2:44…

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Astros 'Mansplaining' Meme Guy Joins Us | His Reality Competition Gives Away $100K! 18:31

3M ago18:31

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Houston Reality Show Creator Dustin Jones about giving away $100K on his Athletic 100 Show & he goes into the true story of how he became the iconic Astros 'Mansplaining' Meme. (:46) Full Story of Astros Mansplaining Meme (2:10) Favorite Meme (2:39) Story behind the Girl in Meme (3:07) Dustin's Reaction to Meme (4:39) Is…

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Did Astros Find Any Gems in '25 MLB Draft? (Astros Future Host Jimmy Price Breaks it Down) 27:27

3M ago27:27

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks fellow Bleav Host Jimmy Price (Astros Future Host) to break down the Astros '25 MLB Draft. Did the Astros have one of their best drafts in years? What does 1st rd pick Xavier Neyens bring? Who could be a steal in the later rounds? Jimmy looks at that, some key questions heading into the MLB Trade Deadline & what he enjoy…

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Billy Wagner's Road to Cooperstown! (with Astros Voices Bill Brown & Greg Lucas) 29:05

3M ago29:05

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Bleav Host Robert Land celebrates Astros Closer & new Hall of Fame Inductee Billy Wagner finally entering Cooperstown with Astros Hall of Fame Voice Bill Brown and his colleague Greg Lucas. They look at Wagner's storybook life, the frustration of his long wait and their favorite career moments. Plus, you'll learn about Wagner's connection to the cu…

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Josh Okogie: Good or Bad Rockets Signing? | Jalen Green Thanks Houston! 39:05

3M ago39:05

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Rockets Analyst Clayton Anderson about the Rockets signing Josh Okogie and what he made of the Jalen Green Players Tribune piece thanking Houston and the Rockets. Plus, NBC hires a couple ex Rockets as analysts & Rodney McCray on the missed 1986 Rockets Championship. (:34) Reaction to Okogie Signing (1:49) Was Okogie mis…

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Nick Percat, James Golding, and Bryce Fullwood 45:29

3M ago45:29

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Following a wild weekend at Townsville which saw James getting airborne, he joins the podcast today the right way up alongside Nick Percat and Bryce Fullwood. The guys talk some interesting tactics to spice up the races including letting bulls loose on the track, and permanently hosed down corners, and the mailbag has them keen to cut out practice …

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Stroud Changes Offseason Prep? | New 1st Team O-Line? | Injury Concerns? 31:22

3M ago31:22

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Texans Analyst Garrett Williams ⁨@HoustonStressans⁩ about the 1st day of Texans Camp, Stroud's change in offseason, good news for the Tight Ends, O-Line changes, concerns about Christian Harris & Denico Autry and honoring Jon Weeks. Plus, there's old school stories about classic Luv Ya Blue Oilers Camp from Chronicle leg…

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Rockets '86 Finalist Rodney McCray on Hakeem, Michael Jordan, Ralph Sampson & Larry Bird 41:13

3M ago41:13

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Rockets Forward Rodney McCray about playing with Hakeem, Michael Jordan, Darrell Griffith & Ralph Sampson, playing against Larry Bird, the John Lucas suspension & playing for Bill Fitch & Phil Jackson. He talks about the huge upset over Magic's Lakers & playing Phi Slama Jama in '83. (2:22) John Lucas Suspension (4:30) D…

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Insiders Break Down Texans '25 Free Agent Additions! How do Christian Kirk & Cam Robinson Help? 43:22

3M ago43:22

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Vikings Insider & Bleav in Vikings Host Mike Wobschall @Wobby about new Texans Offensive Tackle Cam Robinson & New Offensive Guard Ed Ingram and Jaguars Insider (Touchdown Jaguars Host) James Johnson the strengths & weaknesses of new Texans WR Christian Kirk. Plus, Robert's hot take on Lance McCullers future and Astros A…

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What do Durant, Finney-Smith Bring to Rockets? (Nets Insider Jed Katz) 30:42

3M ago30:42

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Bleav in Nets Host Jed Katz @JedKatzNBA to break down Kevin Durant & Dorian Finney-Smith's positives & negatives in Brooklyn. Plus, Katz looks at the Nets-Rockets pick swap, how the Nets look in their rebuild, what their draft looks like and how he sees the Rockets in the Western Conf hierarchy. (:58) Did Finney-Smith su…

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Expert Guide on Texans ’25 Draft Picks! 1:19:52

3M ago1:19:52

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks NFL Draft Guru & 'A to Z Sports Film Room' Host Joe DeLeone about Jayden Higgins, Aireontae Ersery, Jaylin Noel, Jaylin Smith, Woody Marks, Jaylen Reed, Graham Mertz, Luke Lachey & Kyonte Hamilton. Iowa State Insider Rob Gray (with the Cyclone Fanatic & the Cedar Rapids Gazette) talks about pluses & minuses of 2nd rd pic…

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Can Old Clint Capela Still Help Rockets? (Hawks Insider on Capela Decline & Atlanta's Big Offseason) 27:07

3M ago27:07

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Atlanta Hawks Insider David Lee (Host o the Atlanta Hawks Film Room podcast) what to expect from an older more injured Clint Capela. What will be bring to the table? Plus, Robert asks David about Trae Young, Jalen Johnson, Quin Snyder & the Hawks potential. (:51) How much has Capela slipped? (3:03) What's Capela still go…

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Astros: Championship Favorites? | Astros Almost Had Bryce Harper? | Was Brice Matthews Ready? 32:30

3M ago32:30

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Astros Analyst James Christopher & Host of Amazon Prime's ‘Ballpark Nation’ if the Astros are Championship favorites, if Brice Matthews should've been called up, if Chas McCormick's played his last game as an Astro, who the Astros should look for at the trade deadline & what would Jeff Luhnow's revelation about the Bryce…

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Reed Sheppard Shows Off in Summer League Opener vs. Clippers! 20:27

3M ago20:27

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Bleav Host Robert Land breaks down Reed Sheppard's big time 1st Summer League Game in '25 vs. the Clippers. What did you think? Get in the Comments! Subscribe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple & iHeart X @HSTPodcast #rockets #reedsheppard Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal…

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Making A Full Time Living Licensing Music With Bryn Evans 40:10

3M ago40:10

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In the latest episode of The Sync Lab, Aaron speaks with Australian based TV/Film composer, Bryn Evans. Bryn Evans is a songwriter and composer from Ngunnawal country in Australia. His music has found a home on over 100 television shows, including hit reality series MTV’s Catfish, RuPaul’s Drag Race, The Real Housewives franchise, and Keeping Up wi…

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Texans Training Camp Questions? | Potential Big Name Cuts? | DeMeco Vibes! (with Will Kunkel) 31:43

3M ago31:43

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks 'Kickin it with Kunkel' Host Will Kunkel @WillKunkelV about the CJ Stroud Injury Cloak & Dagger, the new Caley offense, impressive rookies, DeMeco Ryans secret sauce, offseason disappointments, lessons about the revamped O-Line & who is Jake Andrews & why does he matter? Plus, are there any potential big name cuts & how …

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Phil Garner talks Astros Career! (Roger Clemens, Nolan, Biggio, Bagwell, Dave Parker & '79 Pirates) 54:43

3M ago54:43

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Bleav Host Robert Land asks Astros longtime player & Manager Phil Garner about his fight with Cancer, playing with legendary A's, memories of Nolan Ryan & Mike Scott's no hitter, the '86 NLCS vs. the Mets, the Greatest Game Ever Played, the '05 18 inning classic, a miracle Ausmus HR, Chris Burke's Game Winning HR, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, memori…

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Did Cam Whitmore Trade Stink? | Red Host Astros: Are they Dodgers Daddy? 24:54

4M ago24:54

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Bleav Host Robert Land breaks down all the angles of the Cam Whitmore trade to the Wizards and looks at why the Astros are rolling. Plus, he jumps into the archives with Rockets great Robert Reid on guarding Larry Bird and stories about Vin Scully's legend. (:42) Whitmore Trade details & 2nd RD pick value (3:14) Who is new Rocket Mojave King? (3:55…

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Rockets add Finney-Smith, Capela! | Is Cam Whitmore Gone? | Tari Eason Extension Worries? 19:00

4M ago19:00

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Bleav Host Robert Land looks at the ramifications of the Rockets signing Dorian Finney-Smith & Clint Capela. Were these slam dunk great moves? What about Cam Whitmore rumors of a potential trade? Is that a good? Plus, Robert talks Tari Eason extension concerns, the Rockets biggest obstacles in the West outside of the Thunder & looking back at one o…