The ins and outs of vacation rental property management and how to grow your cohost/property management business.
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The Heads In Beds Show is your vacation rental & accommodations marketing podcast co-hosted by Conrad O'Connell and Paul Manzey. Learn how to double your direct bookings with search, social & email marketing strategies and tactics.
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Welcome to The Vacation Rental Show where we dive into the latest hot topics, technology and strategies, to help you take the vacation rental world by storm. Hosted by industry veteran, Lynell Gordon.
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With more than 35 years of combined experience in vacation rentals, Alex Husner and Annie Holcombe have teamed up to connect the dots between inspiration and opportunity, seeking to find the one story, idea, strategy or decision that led to their guests big A-HA moment. Join them, as they highlight the REAL stories behind the people and brands that have built vacation rentals into the 100 BILLION dollar industry it is today.
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The Short Term Rental Profits Show
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Navigate the rapid rise of short term real estate investment properties with the SHORT TERM RENTAL PROFITS podcast. Airbnb and VRBO have created new opportunities for savvy income property investors to increase cash flow and maximize ROI. Listen to SHORT TERM RENTAL PROFITS and learn how to identify the best markets to invest in as each city offers unique ratios of risk and profitability. Learn how property managers can simplify the experience for investors and how you can leverage dynamic p ...
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You’re a marketer in one of the most competitive industries. You may be tired of trying, over and over, to use the same marketing strategies that you read about online or learned about in school - but is that really going to move the needle? We all know the big brands - Booking.com, American Airlines, The Points Guy, Royal Caribbean, Marriott, VRBO, and Hertz... but what about the emerging brands that have found their path to scale? The Travel Marketing Podcast is about sitting down with suc ...
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Build an impressive short-term rental business from the ground up, with help from John and Jeanette. These successful AirBNB and VRBO hosts credit their fast rental success on their ability to showcase their property and to really stand out from the pack. The series begins BEFORE you even select your property, and progresses through your first guest -- all the way to your busiest seasons ahead. Stay tuned and join us weekly for new updates.
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What if your 401(k) came with a fire pit and a lake view? Hosted by hospitality veteran and short-term rental expert, Katie Cline, Second Home First is a brand new podcast that explores an unconventional path to homeownership. For Katie, living in New York City made buying a home feel impossible, so she decided to flip the script and buy her ‘second home’ first. With renting now more affordable than owning in all 50 of the largest U.S. metros, buying any home–let alone a ‘second’ one–has nev ...
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Welcome to Virtual GM, the ultimate podcast for anyone looking to elevate their game in the modern hospitality industry! Whether you're a boutique hotel owner, VRBO manager, Airbnb administrator, front desk staff, or just someone trying to navigate the ever-changing landscape of the hospitality world, this podcast is for you! Each episode is packed with valuable insights, expert advice, and real-life stories from industry leaders and innovators. We'll cover everything from how to effectively ...
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Welcome to the Real Estate Investing Podcast, your ultimate resource for actionable tips, strategies, and market insights tailored to investors seeking to build wealth and succeed in the real estate market. Whether you're just starting or you're an experienced investor refining your approach, this podcast covers everything you need to know to thrive in a competitive industry. Each episode delves into key investment strategies such as house hacking, midterm rentals, Airbnb, and long-term rent ...
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SmartStay Show - Short Term Rental Counsel + Coaching | Airbnb Hosting Tips
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Welcome to the SmartStay Show, your go-to podcast for mastering Short-Term Rentals on Airbnb, Vrbo, and beyond. For more Airbnb tips, visit smartstayshow.com and smartstaycoaching.com. Hosted by 30-time Airbnb Superhost Jason Muth and Real Estate Attorney Rory Gill, we equip you with the tools to launch, manage, and optimize your vacation rental like a pro. Unlike other shows, we specifically cater to owners of small-but-mighty portfolios who self-manage their properties. Each episode delive ...
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30-year financial insider, Frank Curzio, breaks down the mainstream media headlines, exposes the TRUTH about what's really moving the markets, and brings you exclusive intel and actionable investment ideas directly from Wall Street pros.
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The short term rental market is booming...should you be a part of it? How do you become a part of it? Everything you need to know about owning and setting up an Airbnb or VRBO
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An unfiltered look into the global hospitality and short-term rental industry with a focus on founder stories, current events, and culture. Co-Hosts Mateo Bradford and John Stokinger discuss current news and affairs surrounding the vacation rental, lodging, and accommodation industry. the no BS podcast brings the right people to the table at the right time giving their audience an inside view and real take like no other. https://thenoBSpodcast.co
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Save more and spend less is more than just a motto for money expert Clark Howard; it’s a way of life. Clark and his crew — Team Clark — are on a mission to empower people to take control of their personal finances by providing money-saving tips, consumer advice, hot deals and economic news to help everyone achieve financial freedom. Clark is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host and a consumer reporter for television stations around the country. His podcast, The Clark Howard Show, rec ...
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Booking Stack helps vacation rental property managers navigate the tech and tactics behind short-term rentals. Hosted by David Ciccarelli, CEO of Lake.com, each episode breaks down the systems and strategies that drive growth and simplify operations. From choosing your first property management system to mastering revenue metrics like Occupancy, ADR, and RevPAR, we’ll cover distribution across Lake.com, Airbnb, Vrbo, and Google Vacation Rentals, plus owner acquisition, direct bookings, and o ...
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Tim Hubbard, successful investor and CEO of a seven-figure short term rental management company shares it all. The insider tips you need to know to acquiring, operating and scaling a successful short term rental business.
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Discover the world through smarter, smoother, and more meaningful travel. Welcome to the Island Vacation Travel Podcast, hosted by Al Philogene—founder of Island Vacation Travel Agency LLC, business travel consultant, and proud Saint Lucian entrepreneur dedicated to connecting travelers between Central Florida and the Caribbean. For more than eight years, Al has helped travelers, professionals, event planners, and small businesses create stress-free, memorable journeys. From corporate travel ...
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Learn how to grow your airbnb or vacation rental business in just minutes a day with Coach John. Join John as he shares the latest insights, tools, and news about the rapidly growing short term rental industry. The episodes are short, sweet, and actionable. Whether you are an airbnb host or a seasoned vacation rental owner, this short term rental podcast is for you!
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Get passive income through short term rentals, and decide if you’re cut out for managing it yourself. If managing properties fills you up, you’ll learn how to build a management business. If it doesn’t, you’ll learn how to hire the right one. Airbnb, VRBO, STR, whatever name you know it by, you can make property management a good endeavor and be fulfilled while keeping the booking calendar filled as well. I’m Mark McDaniel. I’m not a real estate agent. I knew nothing about property managemen ...
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Listen and learn from a Florida independent, local insurance company about how to make the best choice for your insurance needs.
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Powering Travel is an audio platform brought to you by Expedia Group. You can expect to hear travel industry experts speaking about topics ranging from travel trends and research data to tools and solutions that will change the way you approach your business. Each episode shares actionable tips to help industry leaders stay current and ultimately benefit the entire travel ecosystem—from CEOs to everyday travelers. Powering Travel is produced by Expedia Group in association with Quill. Learn ...
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Get Paid For Your Pad | Airbnb Hosting | Vacation Rentals | STR Revenue Management
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Get Paid For Your Pad is the go-to podcast for Airbnb hosts, short-term rental operators, and vacation rental entrepreneurs who want to scale smarter, earn more, and stay ahead of industry shifts. Hosted by Jasper Ribbers, Eric Moeller, and Kaye Putnam from Freewyld Foundry, this podcast delivers actionable tips on Airbnb pricing strategies, revenue management, direct bookings, listing optimization, and guest experience. You'll hear from real hosts, property managers, and industry pros who s ...
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Welcome to the Guide to Short-Term Rental (STR) Management, a resource tailored for professional property managers. Unlike casual hosting, this role demands business expertise, profitability focus, and consistent value delivery to property owners. Laying the Foundation Start by establishing a strong legal and financial structure. Secure essential insurance policies like General Liability and Errors & Omissions (Professional Liability). Understand licensing and zoning rules by region, address ...
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Welcome to the Inspiring Lifestyle Podcast!! I am so excited to host this fun, fresh podcast with life giving value in the areas of faith, home, well-being and entrepreneurship. My name is Trudy Maples and I have been married to my high-school sweetheart for 32 years. We have two adult children and 2 precious grandsons and one on the way! My incredible husband was a student pastor for 28 years and the best at it, a legend in his field and I learned so much about leadership from him as I serv ...
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Ever feel lost and overwhelmed by the home buying or selling process? Are you a new agent looking for advice to build your company and community? Do you dream of owning investment property to build wealth and financial independence? Then hello! You’ve come to the right place! The Hello Real Estate Podcast is sparking relatable and authentic conversations about all things real estate, to help empower people to achieve the lives they’ve always dreamed of. Real estate can be daunting, but we’re ...
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This tiny disruptor is giving Airbnb and Vrbo a run for their money
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Savvy CEO Eric Goldreyer breaks down his remarkable track record (including 8- and 9-figure exits)... how Savvy's brilliant model is disrupting the vacation rental market… the company's explosive early growth… and his 3–5-year vision. In this episode: One-on-one with hospitality pioneer, Savvy CEO Eric Goldreyer [00:15] Eric's remarkable track reco…
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🎄 Episode 21: Holiday Hospitality & Christmas Movie Showdown
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In this Christmas-morning episode, Cody & Meagan dive into what makes a stay truly special at the holidays — from guest expectations to festive touches — and wrap things up with their own Christmas movie showdown 🎬. 🎁 What’s Inside: 🔹 Segment 1: What Guests Want for Christmas A warm welcome, cozy ambiance, and thoughtful touches that turn a stay in…
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ALL The Ways You Can Run Promotions For Your Vacation Rental Business
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In this episode Conrad and Paul talk about all of the different ways you can run promos that are not just "cutting rates lower" to drive more bookings. Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Paul Manzey Conrad O'Connell Conrad's Book: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing Conrad's Course: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing 101 🔗 Connect With BuildUp Bookings …
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Sarah Bradford Unfiltered: Fix These Vacation Rental Mistakes Before 2026
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Send us a message! In this unfiltered conversation, Sarah Bradford joins us once again to break down the most common and costly mistakes she sees vacation rental operators still making today. Drawing from more than two decades in the industry and her experience building, scaling, and ultimately selling two successful vacation rental companies, Sara…
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The Cohost coach - Episode #65: Merry Christmas!
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It has been an amazing year here at the Cohost Coach. We want to thank you all for watching and we wish you an amazing Holiday season. Tune in next time for a special message and we will see you again in 2026!By Joe Rohne
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89: Unlock Tax-Free Wealth: Mastering the Self-Directed Roth IRA Like Peter Thiel with Adam Bergman
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Jason welcomes Adam Bergman, founder of IRA Financial, talks about the history and current state of self-directed IRAs, highlighting their potential for significant investment returns and explaining the differences between traditional and Roth IRAs. He covered the benefits and tax implications of using a self-directed IRA for investments, including…
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319. How to Cancel Airbnb Reservations Without Getting Penalized
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Canceling a guest's reservation on Airbnb isn't just awkward—it can be costly if you do it the wrong way. In this episode, we break down a proven playbook for canceling bookings penalty-free without tanking your visibility or getting fined. If you're hosting on Airbnb, these strategies could save your listing. Key Takeaways: • Discover the exact sc…
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What It Really Takes to Merge Two STR Companies | Evan Davison + Evan Montgomery
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Is going solo really the best way to scale a short-term rental business—or can the right partnership take you further, faster? In this episode, we sit down with Evan Davison and Evan Montgomery to unpack what actually happens when two ambitious operators decide to merge their short-term rental businesses. We talk openly about dividing roles using t…
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The Secret to Affordable Healthcare & Will Mortgage Rates Go to 5% Soon?Wes Moss reveals a critical, little-known healthcare secret that can save early retirees, job-leavers, and other Americans thousands of dollars a month on medical coverage before age 65. Hear the incredible story of Rebecca, who thought she was stuck paying $2,500/month for COB…
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Building a Vacation Rental Business From Zero to 57 Properties with Nomadic Vacays
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In this episode of The Vacation Rental Show, host Lynell Gordon speaks with brother-sister duo Taylor Moore and Danielle Giancola, founders of Nomadic Vacays, about building a vacation rental business from scratch during COVID-19, prioritizing infrastructure before growth, and creating systems that make operations plug-and-play. What You'll Learn: …
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What if the most valuable part of owning a vacation home isn’t the real estate itself… but the moments the house makes possible? Just in time for the holidays, today’s expert episode explores how to make the most of the time we share with the people we love, and how to capture those memories to last a lifetime. This Week’s Expert: Nicole Smith, Fou…
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12.22.25 Avoid Fraud 2 Ways / The Outlook On Gas Prices
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Criminals are working overtime to separate you from your money this holiday. Today, hear about the fake online merchant reps ripping people off - and why you should discontinue a common ecommerce practice permanently. Also, Clark updates where we are with gas prices and the factors influencing what you pay at the pump. Fraud Alerts: Segment 1 Ask C…
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Stop Guessing Prices: Build a Real Revenue Management Routine
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👉 Get a Free Revenue Review → https://www.freewyldfoundry.com/report Find out how much money your portfolio is leaving on the table. Risk-free. What if the biggest revenue mistake most STR operators make isn’t their pricing tool… but the lack of a daily and weekly pricing routine? In this episode of Get Paid For Your Pad, Jasper Ribbers breaks down…
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12.19.25 Clark Answers His Critics on Clark Stinks / For Christmas Procrastinators
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Friday - Clark Stinks day! Christa shares Clark Stinks posts with Clark. Submit yours at Clark.com/ClarkStinks. Also in today’s episode: What if you still haven't completed your holiday shopping? Will you have to pay more this close to Christmas? Yes AND No. Clark Stinks: Segments 1 & 2 11th Hour Retail Strategy: Segment 3 Ask Clark: Segment 4 Ment…
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From Busy to Strategic: The Real Job of an STR CEO
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👉 Get a Free Revenue Review → https://www.freewyldfoundry.com/report Find out how much money your portfolio is leaving on the table. Risk-free. What happens when STR CEOs stay busy all day but still feel like the business isn’t moving forward? In this episode of Get Paid For Your Pad, Kaye Putnam (Head of Marketing at Freewyld and Freewyld Foundry)…
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🎧 Episode 20: The Hidden Power of Asset Management — Featuring Walter Peseski of Garfield Public/Private
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In this episode, Cody sits down with special guest Walter Peseski (LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walter-peseski/), Senior Vice President of Asset Management at Garfield Public/Private—one of the most respected firms in the development and public/private partnership space. With more than 30 million square feet developed, over $11 billion in …
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Beyond the Algorithm: Building a Brand with Community, Not Clicks
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Discover how Katalina Mayorga built El Camino Travel into a powerhouse for the "bold woman traveler" without spending a dime on traditional ads. In this episode, Katalina shares her journey from international development to creating a brand that prioritizes deep cultural immersion and local economic impact. You'll learn how she utilizes high-end ph…
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Katie Stockton, founder and managing partner of Fairlead Strategies, breaks down whether we're in an "AI-or-bust" market… her step-by-step process for finding winners… the sectors she's watching closely in 2026… and much more. In this episode: A sitdown with one of the best technical analysts on Wall Street [0:21] Welcome, Katie Stockton, founder o…
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Multiple Vacation Rental Markets? It's Super Hard: And Here's Why....
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In this episode Conrad and Paul break down why targeting many markets at the same time is HARD (but not impossible) and explaining why this can be a harder path to success. Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Paul Manzey Conrad O'Connell Conrad's Book: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing Conrad's Course: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing 101 🔗 Connect W…
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12.17.25 Household $ Saving Tips / Housing: Buying Vs Renting
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How far are you willing to go to save money? We asked our Clarkies to share their best tips and you sure represented! Today we share our Clark Daily Newsletter survey results on the topic of frugality. Also - is home ownership still the American dream? It’s complicated. Clark discusses the decision factors involved in the largest purchase we ever m…
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DARM 2025 Fireside Chats: What the Industry Is Finally Saying Out Loud
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Send us a message! This episode was recorded live at DARM 2025, right in the middle of the event, while the conversations were still unfolding and the energy was still fresh. Alex & Annie sit down for two fireside chats with Alex Cisneros (StayTerra) and Dennis Goedheid (Casiola) to talk through what’s showing up in the industry right now, and what…
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The Cohost coach - Episode #64: How STR Hosts Should Finish the Year Strong with Jon Farber
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Clean Books, Clear Profits, how Jon Farber describes the perfect finish to a strong year. In this episode, Joe sits down with Jon Farber, a seasoned short-term rental expert who saw a major problem in the STR space—hosts and property managers struggling to keep their books clean and accurate. Instead of ignoring it, Jon built a bookkeeping business…
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318. Interest Rates EXPLAINED for Real Estate Investors
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Interest rates might not sound exciting, but they can make or break your real estate investments. In this episode, we break down the types of interest rates, how they're changing, and—most importantly—what this means for real estate prices, demand, and your next move. Lower rates are here... so what should you do next? • Discover why interest rates…
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How We Helped 200+ Investors Use the STR Loophole | Blake Anthony Carter + Jeremy Courtney
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What does it really take to scale a short-term rental business, and when does “more” stop meaning “better”? In this episode, we sit down with Blake and Jeremy from Cribs Consulting, the powerhouse duo behind one of Austin’s most respected short-term rental operations. We dig into their journey from managing just three Airbnbs to nearly a hundred pr…
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How To Feel Good About Spending in Retirement & Big Changes to Your 2026 Taxes Are you a lifelong saver struggling to spend your retirement nest egg? You're not alone! Many people who successfully save a significant amount face a major psychological hurdle when it comes time to shift from an accumulation mindset to a distribution (spending) mindset…
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Building Employee Culture in Rural Markets with Amanda Look - Vacation Rental Show
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In this episode of The Vacation Rental Show, host Lynell Gordon speaks with Amanda Look, founder of Salt Air Properties, about building a 100-property portfolio in Bar Harbor, Maine with a fully employed team rather than contractors, maintaining culture in seasonal markets, and learning when to say no to growth opportunities. What You'll Learn: Why…
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What would you do if the only way to afford a home in your city meant compromising on almost everything you wanted — and spending close to a million dollars to get it? On this Real Stories episode, you’ll meet Leanne, who realized that buying in New York City meant giving up too much… and instead chose to buy her second home first on Hilton Head Is…
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12.15.25 Protect Your Retirement Accounts / Electronic Medical Records
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In this episode - Brokerage accounts lack legal protection. Clark explains how criminals have figured out how to target brokerage and retirement accounts, and 2 steps you can take to protect your invested life’s savings. Plus - More doctor’s offices are moving to digital paperwork, but patient uptake is surprisingly low. Know the advantages of havi…
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Hotel vs Airbnb Revenue Management: Why STR Pricing Is Harder
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👉 Get a Free Revenue Review → https://www.freewyldfoundry.com/report Find out how much money your portfolio is leaving on the table. Risk-free. What happens when a hotel revenue director who once managed 10,000 rooms steps into the Short-Term Rental world… and discovers that pricing Airbnbs is far harder than pricing massive resorts? In this episod…
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12.12.25 Clark Answers His Critics on Clark Stinks / Retirement Planning 2026
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Friday - Clark Stinks day! Christa shares Clark Stinks posts with Clark. Submit yours at Clark.com/ClarkStinks. Also in today’s episode: Take it to the limit - the new retirement account limits. Clark has updates and advice to enhance your retirement saving strategy. Clark Stinks: Segments 1 & 2 Retirement Planning 2026: Segment 3 Ask Clark: Segmen…
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Hectic Host: The CEO Playbook for Ending STR Overwhelm
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👉 Get a Free Revenue Review → https://www.freewyldfoundry.com/report Find out how much money your portfolio is leaving on the table. Risk-free. What happens when an STR operator keeps trying to fix chaos with more hires, more tools, or more units, only to realize the real problems were never the ones they were solving? In this episode of Get Paid F…
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Why Central Florida Is the Ideal Hub for Caribbean Connections
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This conversation explores the vibrant Caribbean culture in Central Florida, focusing on how the community preserves its heritage while forging a new identity. It highlights the migration patterns from traditional hubs like Miami to Central Florida, the culinary renaissance that brings authentic Caribbean food to the area, and the lively music and …
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🎧 Episode 19: Story-Driven Hospitality Branding
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In this episode, Cody & Meagan dive into the powerful role storytelling plays in hospitality branding. A great story can turn a stay into an experience—and create lasting emotional connections with your guests. They break down how to craft a compelling brand story that truly resonates and builds loyalty. 🔹 Segment 1: Why Story Matters Why do storie…
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Interest rates are going down—regardless of the Fed… and these 3 sectors will profit as bond yields steepen. Plus, 2 housing stocks to buy… The real winner in Trump's China chip deal… And the Warner Bros. (WBD) bidding war. In this episode: A rant on college football playoffs [2:24] Interest rates are going down—regardless of the Fed [7:56] 3 secto…
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Mobile vs Desktop Traffic Trends For 2026: Here's What To Work On
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In this episode Conrad and Paul go back to an "old" topic that we often ignore: mobile vs desktop traffic, how the site works on mobile, data on Google Analytics conversions and more... Enjoy! ⭐️ Links & Show Notes Paul Manzey Conrad O'Connell Conrad's Book: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing Conrad's Course: Mastering Vacation Rental Marketing 10…
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12.10.25 Mortgage Refinance Guidelines / Switching Banks - Easier Than You Think
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Is now the time to refinance your mortgage? Only if you meet certain criteria. Clark breaks it down. Also - Are you with what Clark calls a Giant Monster Mega Bank? If so, you may be paying fees you don’t have to! Clark’s overview of the banking industry makes it clear, the regional, super regional and giant banks are not your wallet’s friend. Hear…
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Geography Matters Most in Growth with Jennifer Mucha - Vacation Rental Show
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In this episode of The Vacation Rental Show, host Lynell Gordon speaks with Jennifer Mucha, founder of Arrived, about scaling from one property to 350 units across multiple states while navigating the realities of geographic expansion, remote team management, and sustainable business growth. What you'll learn: Why geography is the single hardest fa…
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Reinventing the Backend: Jim Devos Debuts VRWorks
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Send us a message! In this episode, we are joined by Jim DeVos, industry veteran, former co-owner of Best Beach Getaways, for the first public reveal of VR Works — the backend system he spent years building to fix the operational pain points he couldn’t ignore. Jim breaks down how VR Works evolved from an internal solution into a fully integrated p…
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The Cohost coach - Episode #63: Build a Luxury STR Management Business From Scratch - Merritt Harris
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In this episode, Joe sits down with Merritt Harris, an STR property manager who built his business from the ground up and transformed it into a thriving luxury short-term rental management company. Merritt opens up about his journey—from taking on any client who came his way to redefining his brand, elevating his standards, and focusing solely on h…
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317. 10 Proven Ways to Earn More with Your Short-Term Rental
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If you're feeling the pinch from lower occupancy or slipping ADRs, it's time to get proactive. This week, we're diving into 10 revenue-boosting strategies you can implement immediately to increase your visibility, occupancy, and profitability—without adding stress. From pricing tactics to pet policies, these quick wins will help you maximize every …
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5-Star STR Design That Holds Up (Without Looking Cheap) | Allegra Muzzillo
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What really makes a short-term rental unforgettable—and consistently five-star worthy? In this episode, we sit down with Allegra Muzzillo—editor-turned-designer, superhost, and one of the sharpest minds in STR design—to uncover the secrets behind creating guest-ready spaces that truly stand out. Allegra shares her fascinating journey from the fast-…
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How Batch Cracked The Code For Group Travel
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Mike Petrakis, Co-founder & CEO of Batch, joins the podcast to discuss how they became the top app for planning group celebrations like Bachelorette parties. He dives deep into Batch's evolution from a commission-based Online Travel Agency (OTA) model to a "digital billboard" marketing engine for small businesses. In this episode, we cover the secr…
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Costly IRA Conversion Warning & the Hidden Billions Americans Are Leaving Behind In this episode, fiduciary financial advisor Wes Moss tackles a piece of financial advice that he calls "lunacy" and "insanity" – a recent Op-Ed arguing that retirees should convert their entire Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA in a single year. Wes explains why this acad…
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FIFA World Cup Draw: Which Cities Will Profit the Most
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👉 Get a Free Revenue Review → https://www.freewyldfoundry.com/report Find out how much money your portfolio is leaving on the table. Risk-free. What happens when the FIFA World Cup match schedule is finally released and STR operators can see exactly which cities, matchups, and dates will generate the strongest travel demand and pricing power? In th…
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