Ministry Deep Dive is a podcast from Apollos Watered: The Center for Discipleship & Cultural Apologetics. Each episode goes beneath the surface of ministry to explore the challenges, opportunities, and practices shaping today’s leaders. From discipleship and cultural engagement to spiritual formation and public theology, we wrestle with the big questions and everyday realities pastors, missionaries, and Christian leaders face. We don’t just talk about church—we talk about the people who lead ...
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#273 | The Church Must Grow or Perish! Investigating Robert Schuller and His Influence On Modern Evangelicalism with Gerardo Marti & Mark T. Mulder
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55:47In this episode, we dig into the significant impact Robert Schuller had on American Christianity, particularly in congregational life and the church growth movement. Schuller was a controversial figure whose legacy continues to quietly shape how pastors lead—often without them even realizing it. Joining me are Gerardo Marti and Mark T. Mulder, who …
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#272 | Rediscovering the Core of Christian Faith with Michael Goheen
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1:15:09Mike Goheen is back! In this episode, Travis sits down with Dr. Mike Goheen to discuss his new book, The Core of the Christian Faith: Living the Gospel for the Sake of the World. Together, they explore the urgent need for the church to broaden its understanding of the Gospel beyond individual salvation, highlighting its profound implications for co…
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#271 | The Gospel Way Catechism: Equipping the Church for Cultural Engagement with Trevin Wax & Thomas West
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54:49Today's conversation is about the modern need for integrating catechism into the discipleship process, particularly in light of the cultural pressures that seek to dilute the essence of the Christian faith. Travis Michael Fleming is joined by Trevin Wax and Thomas West to discuss their new book, The Gospel Way Catechism, as a fresh approach to an a…
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#270 | When Prayer Becomes Real with Kyle Strobel
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58:17Travis Michael Fleming and Kyle Strobel engage in an enlightening and fun conversation on prayer, delving into its complexities and the common misconceptions that often hinder genuine spiritual connection. Their conversation confronts the barriers that individuals face in their prayer lives, such as feelings of inadequacy and the tendency to approa…
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#269 | The Cultural Obsolescence of Religion: A Deep Dive with Christian Smith, Pt. 2
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47:33Travis Michael Fleming and Dr. Christian Smith continue their conversation on Dr. Smith's latest book, Why Religion Went Obsolete. They discuss how the decline of American traditional religion (i.e. Christianity) is not attributable to a singular cause but rather a confluence of multifaceted cultural, social, and technological transformations that …
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#268 | The Cultural Obsolescence of Religion: A Deep Dive with Christian Smith, Pt. 1
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26:23In an insightful and thought-provoking dialogue, Travis Michael Fleming and Dr. Christian Smith tackle the contentious issue of why traditional religion appears to be losing its grip on American society. Drawing from Dr. Smith's extensive research, the conversation reveals a stark reality: traditional faith is not only declining but has become cult…
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#267 | Faith, Politics, and the American Identity: Navigating Christian Nationalism with Paul D. Miller, Pt. 2
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40:37Travis Michael Fleming and Dr. Paul D. Miller engage in a thought-provoking dialogue concerning the intricate dynamics of Christian nationalism and its implications for contemporary ministry. The face the difficult question on the necessity for Christians to thoughtfully navigate the political landscape without succumbing to tribalism, particularly…
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#266 | Faith, Politics, and the American Identity: Navigating Christian Nationalism with Paul D. Miller, Pt. 1
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47:42In their insightful discussion on Christian nationalism, Travis Michael Fleming and Paul D. Miller explore the complex relationship between faith and politics in America, highlighting Dr. Miller's latest book, The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism. They critically examine the claim that America is a Christian n…
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#265 | Are We Scrolling Ourselves to Death?: Unpacking the Perils of Digital Distraction with Brett McCracken and Ivan Mesa
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1:05:19The episode delves into the compelling arguments presented in 'Scrolling Ourselves to Death,' where the authors contend that the uncritical acceptance of technology within church culture poses existential threats to genuine discipleship. By drawing parallels to Postman’s seminal work, the discussion emphasizes that the medium through which messages…
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#264 | Sanctifying Suburbia: How Suburbia is Shaping Your Faith with Brian J. Miller
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1:03:45Travis Michael Fleming engages in a thoughtful conversation with Brian J. Miller about his influential book, Sanctifying Suburbia. Together, they explore the complex relationship between evangelical faith and the cultural dynamics of suburban life, emphasizing how the environments we inhabit profoundly shape our beliefs and practices. Miller highli…
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#263 | Platforms to Pillars: How Do We Survive in a Platform Society? with Mark Sayers
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1:02:10Travis Michael Fleming and Mark Sayers do a cultural apologetic deep dive into one of the structures influencing church today and how we have become a platform society. They discuss Sayers' book, "Platforms to Pillars," which examines the evolving nature of leadership in the modern world. They start off their conversation with an eye-opening revela…
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#262 | Revitalizing Leadership: The Impact of Joy and Maturity in Ministry with Marcus Warner, Pt. 2
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1:07:17Travis Michael Fleming and Marcus Warner delve into the intricate dimensions of Rare Leadership, underscoring that true leadership is predicated on emotional maturity and relational health. They contend that the prevailing paradigm of leadership, often characterized by charisma and performance metrics, must be supplanted by a model that prioritizes…
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#261 | Revitalizing Leadership: The Impact of Joy and Maturity in Ministry with Marcus Warner, Pt. 1
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37:26The conversation between Travis Michael Fleming and Dr. Marcus Warner centers around the principles delineated in their book, "Rare Leadership," which emphasizes the paramount importance of joy and maturity in effective leadership. They elucidate how the absence of joy leads to a toxic atmosphere in organizational settings, particularly within chur…
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#260 | We Need Each Other: A Conversation with Jim Wilder on the Rediscovery of Relationships in the Christian Life, Pt. 2
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1:02:27In the final segment, the discussion shifts towards practical applications of these concepts within church leadership and congregational life. Wilder introduces the RARE leadership framework—remaining relational, acting like oneself, returning to joy, and enduring hardship—as a strategy for leaders to navigate the complexities of ministry. This fra…
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#259 | We Need Each Other: A Conversation with Jim Wilder on the Rediscovery of Relationships in the Christian Life, Pt. 1
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49:32Travis Michael Fleming and Jim Wilder discuss the intricacies of spiritual formation and how our relationships (i.e. attachments) affect how we live and what we believe. Together, they examine how our understanding of God, ourselves, and our interactions with others shapes our spiritual landscapes. Wilder invites us to reconsider the foundational e…
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#258 | Exploring the Depths of the Christian Imagination: A Conversation with Malcolm Guite, Pt. 2
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54:41Travis Michael Fleming and Malcolm Guite continue their conversation on the Christian imagination. They explore the historical context of imagination within Christian thought, tracing its evolution from the Enlightenment to the present day. They discuss how figures like Coleridge and Kant influenced our understanding of imagination, positing that i…
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#257 | Exploring the Depths of the Christian Imagination: A Conversation with Malcolm Guite, Pt. 1
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43:44Travis Michael Fleming and Malcolm Guite's conversation offers a rich exploration of the Christian imagination and its pivotal role in spiritual life and cultural discourse. Guite reflects on his transformative experiences with poetry, particularly the impact of John Keats on his understanding of beauty and transcendence. He emphasizes the necessit…
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#256 | From the Archives-Revisiting the Wisdom of C.S. Lewis for Imagination in Ministry, Pt 2
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46:03Travis Michael Fleming and Jerry Root delve into the inspiring legacy of C.S. Lewis, particularly as it pertains to the realm of evangelism. They discuss how Lewis, despite his scholarly acumen, possessed a unique ability to communicate complex theological concepts in an accessible manner, thereby inviting individuals from various backgrounds to en…
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#255 | From the Archives-Revisiting the Wisdom of C.S. Lewis for Imagination in Ministry
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35:55Travis Michael Fleming and Jerry Root engage in a conversation on the intersections of C.S. Lewis's literary imagination and the practice of evangelism. Central to their discussion is the assertion that Lewis's imaginative prowess facilitates the understanding of complex theological concepts, making them accessible to a broader audience. Root explo…
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#254 | Understanding the Modern Mission Field: Insights on Ministry and Discipleship
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45:45Join the Blueprint Cohort – Starting May 28! Are you ready to go deeper in your faith and discover how to live out God's Kingdom in today's world? Sign up for the Blueprint Cohort, a 5-week guided journey through Blueprint: Kingdom Living in the Modern World. We’ll meet Wednesdays from 12–1 PM ET, starting May 28 via Zoom. 🗓 Meeting Dates: May 28 J…
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#253 | Why You Can’t Follow Jesus Alone: Rediscovering the Power of Christian Community
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39:31Join the Blueprint Cohort – Starting May 28! Are you ready to go deeper in your faith and discover how to live out God's Kingdom in today's world? Sign up for the Blueprint Cohort, a 5-week guided journey through Blueprint: Kingdom Living in the Modern World. We’ll meet Wednesdays from 12–1 PM ET, starting May 28 via Zoom. 🗓 Meeting Dates: May 28 J…
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#252 | The Love That Shapes Everything: Rediscovering the Great Commandment
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48:43Love God. Love people. Sounds simple, but in many churches today, the Great Commandment has largely been unintentionally overlooked. Today's conversation is about rediscovering the Great Commandment, which calls us to love God with the entirety of our being and to extend that love to our neighbors. But it's not about love in abstract theory, but ev…
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#251 | Fixing Our Evangelism: 4 Ways to Reclaim the Great Commission
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54:03The primary focus of this podcast episode is the evolving nature of evangelism and discipleship in light of contemporary cultural shifts, as articulated in Travis Michael Fleming's book, "Blueprint: Kingdom Living in the Modern World". The discussion emphasizes that traditional methods of evangelism, once effective in a more monocultural context, a…
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A holy week devotional and prayer for those going about the Lord's business.By Travis Michael Fleming
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#250 | Navigating the Crisis: A Blueprint for Church Renewal
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21:34Travis Michael Fleming embarks on a profound exploration of his book, Blueprint: Kingdom Living in the Modern World, addressing the prevailing crisis within evangelicalism. He articulates a sobering assessment of the current state of the church, underlining the alarming statistics that indicate a significant exodus from church attendance, quantifie…
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