A writer and a software engineer from Google's People + AI Research team explore the human choices that shape machine learning systems by building competing tic-tac-toe agents.
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What would you do if you weren't afraid? Jen and Kim are long-time friends who started the podcast from the perspective of two teachers and their experiences in education. The podcast has evolved through countless interviews with current and former educators as well as authors. You will still hear their teaching tips and stories, but you also will follow them on their journey through new chapters in their lives.
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Hi I love podcasts so I created my own :) keep your standards low and you may enjoy - I choose this cover art because Lana - hehe Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lauren-michele-segal/support
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Twisted History Snippet: Paul Revere and Prohibition
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27:02Send us a text In this episode, we’re giving you a quick but rich dive into two very different moments in American history. First, we’ll revisit Paul Revere’s legendary midnight ride—what really happened, the myths versus the facts, and why his ride became such a powerful symbol of resistance. Then, we fast-forward to the 20th century and explore P…
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No Phone Policies, School Supply Controversy, and Teachers in the News (Unfortunately)
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1:09:30Send us a text In this episode of Twisted Teachers, we're diving headfirst into two hot-button education topics that have educators and parents buzzing: 📵 Phone-Free High Schools: What happens when schools leap to ban cell phones completely? We explore the growing trend of phone-free campuses, the backlash, and the research backing it—especially Jo…
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Twisted Conspiracies: The Basiago Time Travel Theory and The "Faked" Moon Landing
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45:38Send us a text Pre-Show Catch-Up Kim gets a slow-poke ticket and updates us on her HRT ass cheek pellets. Forward to 12:46 if you want to get right to the conspiracy discussions. Was the moon landing filmed on Earth? Did a child named Andrew Basiago time-travel to the past and witness future events before they happened? I 🌀 The claims of Project Pe…
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Twisted Book Chat: Intersect by Elle O'Roark
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41:58Send us a text Kim and Jen discuss the second book in the Parallel series by Elle O'Roark Someone has torn them apart in the past, and she plans to do it again…As Nick and Quinn piece together the truth about the life they once shared, they discover it was much deeper and darker than they ever imagined. In order to keep history from repeating, Quin…
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Twisted Chat: Life Updates, Summer Classroom Set Up, and Ass Pellets
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39:26Send us a text New episode after four months! Kim and Jen catch up. They discuss where they are in life, classroom decorating, Blue Ivy, HRT, hot flashes, and many other unrelated topics. As always, STAY TWISTED in all that you do! Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers L…
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Twisted Book Talk: Parallel by Elle O'Roark
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1:01:52Send us a text Jen and Kim take a deep dive into the series' first book. Listen and stay twisted! The first met him in a dream. And now, weeks before she marries someone else, he's appeared in real life. I’ve spent my entire life hiding what I can do. The things I know. Until the day Nick Reilly walks into my hospital room. Nick—the man I've been d…
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Twisted Book Talk: The Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires by Grady Hendrix
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54:32Send us a text Here we go! Jen and Kim give a very thorough review of this book. The Southern Book Club' Guide to Slaying Vampires From Amazon Description: Steel Magnolias meets Dracula in this New York Times best-selling horror novel about a women's book club that must do battle with a mysterious newcomer to their small Southern town. Patricia Cam…
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Express Lane Twisted Conspiracies: The Sinking of the Titanic and the Mysterious Death of Marilyn Monroe
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37:16Send us a text Dive into the murky waters of history as we explore two of the 20th century’s most enduring mysteries: the sinking of the Titanic and the death of Marilyn Monroe. Were there sinister forces at play, or are these stories just fertile ground for wild conspiracy theories? In this episode, we’ll unpack the facts, the theories, and the li…
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Send us a text Kim shares her thoughts on teaching after her long-term subbing stint. The subject of grading blooms balls and tic tac toe boards comes up. Jen and Kim discuss phones, AI, and being salty about things they cannot control. Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeach…
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Have Schools Ever Put the Needs of Children First?
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34:34Send us a text Hello Twisted Listeners! In this episode, Jen and Kim talk about the history of education. They start with the one-room schoolhouse (with a digression about Pa from Little House on the Prairie) and end up with current-day education. They have anecdotes that may or may not have anything to do with the topic. The question is "Have scho…
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Teachers Tapping OUT (New SOE Linda McMahon)
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24:23Send us a text Let's talk about it. Linda McMahon is Trump's choice for the new Secretary of Education. Where do we start? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-linda-mcmahon-is-likely-to-prioritize-as-education-secretary-under-trump Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeacher…
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The End of the Department of Education: What this might mean for the future of education.
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36:39Send us a text Kim and Jen take a deep dive into the potential ramifications of dissolving the DOE. https://www.chalkbeat.org/2024/08/24/if-trump-abolished-the-department-of-education-what-would-happen/ https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/the-u-s-department-of-education-explained/2024/10 Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us …
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Send us a text Catch up with Jen and Kim as Kim re-lives HS with some middle-aged meanies. Jen does set Kim straight with a reality check. Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers LINKTREE :https://linktr.ee/twistedteacher Contact us via email: [email protected] In…
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Spooky Season: The Son of Sam Theory and the Witch of Kilkenny
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41:32Send us a text In this episode, we dive deep into two chilling tales from different eras and continents. First, we unravel the terrifying spree of the "Son of Sam," a notorious serial killer who terrorized New York City in the 1970s. Then, we journey back to explore the haunting story of Alice Kyteler, the so-called "Witch of Kilkenny," whose trial…
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Send us a text Jen and Kim are back with the Twisted Teachers Podcast. They catch up with their lives. Kim talks about the bad funeral mole, and they are remiss that they missed the Jen and Ben divorce drama. They also have a new perspective. Yes, education is challenging right now, but teachers need support. So, TTP will be hearing from teachers i…
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Send us a text Hey Twisted Listeners! Here is an episode from our new podcast GEN X WITH A TWIST! Who was your favorite Brat Pack Member? Find us wherever you found us on HERE! Gen X With a Twist on APPLE PODS Take care! Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers LINKTREE :ht…
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Send us a text Hey everyone! This is the last episode of our beloved Twisted Teachers podcast. We have had a wonderful run for three years, and it is time to move on. Please follow us on the GEN-X With a Twist podcast. It will still be hosted by Jen and Kim, but there won't be a focus on education. We will have Gen-X with a twist of true crime, Gen…
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Send us a text Kim and Jen catch up and have an announcement to make! They discuss why North West's performance went south and debate whether or not Ben Affleck was recently on a dating app. #genex Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers LINKTREE :https://linktr.ee/twisted…
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Send us a text Hey Twisted Teachers! Welcome to May and the official 3rd year of our podcast. Kim and Jen catch up and discuss their lives. Jen gives some very tactical and transparent advice about leaving education. It's not the time now, but there's so much you can do to prepare. Thank you for being so supportive through these three years! Stay T…
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Tuesday Rewind-What Doesn't Kill You Makes you Really Pissed Off
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50:36Send us a text Here's a throwback for the last day of April. The countdown to the end of school begins! Kim and Jen catch up on their lives, which seem to be caused by dumpster fires. Jen loses her purse at a rest stop, and Kim almost loses her luggage at the New Jersey airport. They relate to the lady who ran her car into a Popeyes restaurant beca…
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Twisted Book Chat: Ask for Andrea by Noelle W. IHLI
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19:52Send us a text We really liked this book! Meghan, Brecia, and Skye have just one thing in common. They were all murdered by the same man. He hunted them online, masquerading as an eligible bachelor. Then he played the perfect gentleman, a thick layer of charm and a thousand-watt smile hiding the fact that his first dates end in shallow graves. He’s…
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Twisted Teachers Transf*ckingmational Take on J LO...NOW
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24:53Send us a text We know you've been waiting! Here's Kim's take and Jen's reaction to the JLO situation regarding her cancellation on TikTok. Enjoy the episode while Kim practices her awkward dance in the rain after she publishes all the emails her husband ever sent her. Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https…
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Catching Up with Kim and Jen: Animatronic Elks, Palm 'Bushes", and an Education Rant
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40:04Send us a text It's been a while! Finally, Jen and Kim got caught up. Kim tells her story of the Elk Lodge and her brush with a famous actress. Jen tells us about what's happening in her world and why you may want to plan before leaving your teaching job. Kim ends on one of her unsolicited rants. Stay Twisted! Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear…
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When a Loved One Needs Long Term Care: Interview with Christian Ross (Founder of Happy Talks)
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48:49Send us a text WOW! This was an amazing interview! If you have a loved one in a living community and feel that you can't always keep them company, here is a great solution. Christian is the Chief Happiness Officer and Founder of Happy Talks, Speaker + ATL Startup Village Co-host. While spreading happiness through real estate has been her passion, t…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Twisted Teacher and the Awful, SHI**ty, No Good, Fu**ing, Ridiculous Day!
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50:45Send us a text Need a laugh? Here you go! This one's a doozy!! Jen gives her an incredibly, funny, very good, twisted take on a famous children's book. Kim drags us all through the circles of hell where she and Jen find some uncanny similarities to the levels of hell at work. They continue their tales of projects gone wrong with glue gun safety iss…
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Caretaking Your Loved Ones-Interview with Anne Pagnoni
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55:55Send us a text Anne is the Community Sales Director at Arbor Terrace of Middletown in New Jersey. We had a transparent discussion about eldercare and long-term care for our loved ones. Anne is an expert in long-term care and helped us navigate everything from sub-acute care to skilled nursing, hospice, and caretaker compassion fatigue. If you care …
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Sunday Scary Rewind: CUMulative Folders and Toe Cleavage
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31:41Send us a text Need a laugh? Listen to this blast from the past! Kim and Jen talk about school procedures and dumb rules. Stay Twisted! Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers LINKTREE :https://linktr.ee/twistedteacher Contact us via email: [email protected] Insta…
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The Admin Chronicles: Interview with Jonathan Strout
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1:01:14Send us a text This is another great interview with a former administrator, Johnathan Strout. Johnathan discusses all the ins and outs of the job. He has more than 23 years of experience in public education as a teacher, school counselor, director of school counseling, and principal at various levels. He currently serves as a trusted advisor and th…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: End of the Year Madness
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26:21Send us a text How's your Sunday? Here's a great episode about what happens at the end of a school year. Stay Twisted! Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Leave us a voice message! https://www.speakpipe.com/TwistedTeachers LINKTREE :https://linktr.ee/twistedteacher Contact us via email: [email protected] Instagram: @twisted__t…
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Twisted Crime TIme: Serial Killer Juana Barraza and the Circleville Letters
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22:10Send us a text Here we go! In our first episode of March, we delve into Jual Barraza (the wrestler/serial killer). Also, Jen tells us about the bizarre mystery of the Circleville letters. https://allthatsinteresting.com/juana-barraza https://www.cbsnews.com/news/circleville-letters-author-unmask/ Twisted Teachers Podcast wants to hear from you! Lea…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Interview with Jake Keiser-Author of Daffodil Hill
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1:06:47Send us a text In this episode, we had the pleasure of speaking with Jake Keiser, the author of Daffodil Hill. Jake's story takes us on a journey from the glitz and glamour of Tampa, Florida, to the peaceful countryside of Mississippi, where she buys a farm on a whim after struggling with anxiety, failed relationships, and a desire for inner peace.…
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Twisted Book Chat: The Teacher by Frieda McFadden
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27:17Send us a text Here we go! Listen to see what Kim and Jen think about the book! Eve has a good life. She gets up each day, gets a kiss from her husband Nate, and heads off to teach math at the local high school. All is as it should be. Except… Last year, Caseham High was rocked by a scandal involving a student-teacher affair, with one student, Addi…
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Send us a text New episode! Jen and Kim catch up on all the things. Kim's received a letter at work regarding a podcast episode that prompted her to take it down immediately. Do we like Ben more after the Super Bowl ad? What is CCRPI, and how is it used to evaluate teachers? Jen talks about the survey regarding why teachers finally decided to leave…
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Twisted Lit Book Chat: The Last Mrs. Parrish (with a comparison the The Housemaid).
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18:55Send us a text Kim and Jen do a quick review of The Last Mrs. Parrish. They note the similarities between that book and The Housemaid by Freida McFadden. There is also a prequel to TLMP called The First Shot, which gives Amber's backstory. Please leave us a voice memo with suggestions for our next book. It's in the notes below https://www.amazon.co…
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The Admin Chronicles: Interview with Dr. Stacey Gonzales
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55:27Send us a text This is a great episode! We talk to Dr. Gonzales about her journey in education and administration. Dr. Stacey Gonzales is a teacher, advisor, coach, and consultant. For two decades, Stacey served as an award-winning executive leader in some of the largest school districts in Illinois. Now, Stacey is the founder of SG Creative Connec…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Middle-Aged Malaise, Removing Honors Classes, and Vetting Teacher Resources
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43:21Send us a text How's your Sunday? Here's an episode from about a year ago. Enjoy! "It's like you are supposed to do the lettering on a group poster project, but you get home and your markers are dry." Jen talks about her participation in her 'group project' at work. Kim updates us on her dad's move. They discuss the idea of removing AP and Honors c…
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Send us a text Hello! Kim and Jen catch up with their middle-aged lives. They talk about dos and don'ts of interviewing, who is interviewing, and what is highly needed in the world of education. The new series The Admin Chronicles is starting, and they are planning for more true crime, and a series on taking care of your parents. Stay Twisted! Twis…
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The Admin Chronicles: Interview with Principal Mo
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1:03:16Send us a text Welcome to the first episode of our new series, The Admin Chronicles. We will be interviewing admin who have left and those who are still in education. Ashley Moore is a Principal of an Elementary / Middle School in Maryland. Her journey to the Principalship began her teaching career in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, covering grades 3 t…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Interview with (Former Principal) Dr. Melissa Groff
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1:04:46Send us a text Tune in! Launching our admin series! Dr. Melissa Groff is a highly experienced education professional with a passion for creating proactive school cultures through the implementation of restorative practices, leadership coaching and mentorship, and job-embedded coaching. Additionally, Dr. Groff’s efforts showcase her strong commitmen…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Kristi Oliva
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57:33Send us a text This episode is about as real as they come. We had a great discussion with Kristi about her educational journey. We discussed everything from toxic work environments to taking sick leave and navigating the choppy sea of parent communication. Leaving the Classroom Podcast and Career Quiz IDOL Academy and instructional design HERE is t…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Student Burnout
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1:06:26Send us a text Do you have students who are dealing with 'burnout'? What do we do, and how can we deal with student and teacher burnout? Listen to one of our very popular episodes. Jen and Kim talk about why people smoke toad venom and that you should never steal your son's edible brownies and feed them to senior citizens (especially if he's a teac…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Misty Kluesner
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43:29Send us a text Please listen to Misty's story about her time in and out of education. This interview is very real and tells the story of her thoughts about the education system, her role, and how she uses her creative and instructional skills in her new endeavors. https://www.mistykluesner.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mistykluesner/ Twisted Tea…
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Send us a text Jen passed her 'stand and deliver' for her new job. It was a lot of work and something to celebrate. Sadly, Kim's former husband has suffered a stroke, and it is devastating to her and her girls. Please send good thoughts their way. The topic is Snow Plow Parents and online grading. It's an important topic, and one that needs to be a…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Lauren Greener
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48:42Send us a text We had a wonderful and insightful interview with Lauren Greener. She talks about how she became a teacher and her journey out of education. All about Lauren: I am an innovative leader and brand storyteller with highly developed design skills. My background is in education, where I gained 12 years of classroom experience developing st…
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Sunday Scary Rewind: Lawnmower, Helicopter, and Leaf Blower Parents
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59:59Send us a text In this episode, Kim talks about her hatred of traffic circles, and Jen attempts to debunk the efficacy of deer whistles. They discuss all the types of parents teachers deal with. Helicopter parents incessantly hover. Lawnmower parents clear the way for their children so they never need to problem-solve. Kim created the Wack a Mole p…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Courtney Gravely
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43:44Send us a text Here is another great interview! Courtney is a dedicated and enthusiastic licensed educator, consultant, and business professional with nine years of experience in multiple K-12 academic environments. We talk about Courtney's journey from education to Ed Tech. If you are ready to make a change, tune in to this series and to Courtney'…
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New Year Rewind: Coming in HOT with Cellphones in the Classroom
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42:11Send us a text This episode is just what we need to get back inot the swing of things.... This one is coming in hot with the cell phones in the classroom discussion. Why aren't parents supporting teachers? Why are people attacking teachers for asking for cellphone policy support? Kim and Jen review some salty comments on Kim's Tik Tok and some solu…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Lindsey Carlisle
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1:01:08Send us a text Lindsey tells us her story about her life as a teacher and the obstacles she overcame during a difficult time. She gives great advice on what not to do if you are a teacher trying to transition. It may be a holiday, but it's also a time for reflection if you need a life outside the classroom. and don't know where to start. Happy Holi…
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Twisted Crime Time: The Disappearance of the Sodder Children and Serial Killer Bell Gunness
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53:31Send us a text Happy Holidays! It's time for some true crime Twisted Teacher Style. In the early hours of Christmas Day in 1945, a devastating fire destroyed the Sodder family home in West Virginia. However, five of the Sodder children were nowhere to be found. Despite extensive searches and investigations, their fate remains unknown. Belle Gunness…
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Lesson Plans to Life Plans: Interview with Melissa Chapman (former teacher)
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51:26Send us a text We had a great time interviewing Melissa and learning about her journey in education and beyond. She tells her story about her teaching experience and when she realized it was time to move outside the classroom. If you are thinking about changing your career, listen to the episode for some encouragement and advice on how to get start…
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