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Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking some of that space back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engagin ...
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Dive Deep, Seek Truth: A Journey Beyond the Surface of Spirit & Self. Dive into 'Soulful Inquiries,' where we unravel the mysteries of spirituality and existence. Let us together explore faith's depths, life's big questions, and our shared human journey. From faith communities to spiritual oases, join us in this sanctuary of reflection and conversation, where spirit and self converge.
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A podcast for learning how to deepen convictions without dividing communities. Tune in for insight from Tim Muehlhoff and Rick Langer on how to cultivate understanding, civility, and compassion in disagreement.
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Wisdom and Theology with Bishop Houston Podcast
Bishop, W. F. Houston, Jr, - Theological Educator & Spiritual Inspirationalist
Welcome to "Wisdom and Theology with Bishop Houston," a podcast that seeks to bridge the gap between ancient biblical wisdom and modern theological inquiry. Hosted by Bishop W. F. Houston Jr., each episode is a spiritual journey through the rich landscape of Christian thought and practice. Bishop Houston, with his expository, philosophical, and culturally relevant approach, delves into the sacred texts, bringing them to life with insightful interpretations and introspective reflections. This ...
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Bishop Mary D. Glasspool, Trailblazing Leader in the Episcopal Church, on Challenging Tradition and Navigating Faith
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1:11:36In this inspiring episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mary D. Glasspool, a pioneering leader in the Episcopal Church and the first openly lesbian woman to be consecrated as a bishop in the Anglican Communion. Since 2016, she has served as Assistant Bishop in the Episcopal Diocese of New York. Bishop Mary shares her personal journey of faith,…
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Reasoned Humility: Pastor David Hegg on Theology, Differences, and Engaging Culture
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1:11:26In this episode, host Corey Nathan is joined by Pastor David Hegg, Senior Pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Santa Clarita, CA. With decades of experience, a master’s in theology, and a doctorate in preaching, Pastor Hegg shares his unique journey into ministry, his thoughts on biblical teaching, and how Christians can faithfully navigate today’s cu…
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(ICYMI) Sussing out Excellent Journalism from All the Crap with Julie Mason, SiriusXM Radio Host and Former White House Reporter
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59:36“You’ve got to be willing to kick your sources right in the balls if necessary, even if they’re your friends.” Julie Mason came up the ranks at regional newspapers before becoming a White House reporter. On her SiriusXM radio show, you can tell how much she loves and champions good reporters and reveres excellent journalism. And that's one of the m…
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On today’s episode, political commentator, author, and attorney Denise Gitsham speaks with Tim about some major themes in her book, Politics for People Who Hate Politics. Through a series of personal anecdotes and stories, they discuss some of the challenges to being winsome and loving in our current political climate, especially when you’re being …
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Michael SpezioTroubles with EmpathyPhilosophy, Theology and the Sciences (PTSc)Jahrgang 11 (2024) / Heft 1, S. 57-120 (64)https://www.mohrsiebeck.com/artikel/troubles-with-empathy-101628ptsc-2024-0005/By Center of Theological Inquiry
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ICYMI - Wajahat Ali: Navigating Chaos and Divisiveness with Hope and Humanity
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1:04:36A lot's happened already this year. So it's worth re-setting this conversation with friend of the pod, Wajahat Ali, from earlier this year... When there's such chaos amd divisiveness all around us, what can we do to cultivate a sense of hope and humanity? In this episode, we welcome back Wajahat Ali, celebrated writer, editor of The Left Hook Subst…
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Grau, M. Beyond “Hope”: Constructive Anger as a Force in Sustained Climate Action. Pastoral Psychol 74, 113–129 (2025). (open access) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11089-024-01196-xBy Center of Theological Inquiry
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Standing with Ukraine: Alexander Vindman on U.S. Foreign Policy, Putin’s Threat, and the Folly of Trumpism
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1:17:26In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Alexander Vindman—retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel and former Director for European Affairs on the White House National Security Council. Known for his key role in the first Trump impeachment and his deep expertise in Eastern European affairs, Vindman returns to discuss his latest book, The Folly of Realism:…
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Stop Toxic Partisanship (Doing Our Part): Finding Humanity in Polarized Politics & Religion
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51:54In this episode, host Corey Nathan reflects on a pivotal shift in direction for the podcast. The solo episodes of “Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other” will be moving toward a more practical focus—answering the question of how we engage in tough conversations about politics and religion in more productive, neighborly, human ways.…
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Serene Jones on Grace, Grit, and God: How Faith Can Heal a Fractured Democracy
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1:04:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan speaks with Rev. Dr. Serene Jones, President of Union Theological Seminary. As the first woman to lead the historic 180-year-old institution, Dr. Jones brings deep insight to the intersection of theology, justice, and public life. Together, they explore how Christian faith can guide us through trauma, division, an…
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On today’s episode, Tim speaks with Michael Wear, President and CEO of the Center for Christianity and Public Life and author of the book, The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life, on features of Christian faithfulness and civic engagement. Michael talks about his role as a faith advisor in the White House d…
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From the Boardroom to Town Hall: Leading with Civility with Mayor Lisa Willey Knierim
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1:05:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with Lisa Willey Knierim—Mayor of Cranbury Township, NJ, President of 1880 Hospitality, and high school pal. Lisa shares powerful insights into the realities of small-town governance, the impact of state housing mandates, and the ripple effects of national political discourse. From boardrooms to townshi…
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Beyond Outrage and Misperceptions: Building the Muscles for Democracy (with More In Common's Kate Carney)
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1:04:54In this episode, Corey Nathan sits down with Kate Carney, Deputy Director at More in Common. Kate shares her fascinating journey—from working in Congress to boating 6,000 miles around the U.S.—and how those experiences shape her work today. The conversation centers on More in Common’s new report, The Connection Opportunity, and explores how we can …
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Trump's Attack on Decency and Your Constitutional Rights: Why It's NOT Normal
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40:54In this episode, host Corey Nathan reflects on where we stand as a country several months into the current administration. With candor and conviction, Corey explores the themes of democracy, decency, and due process. Drawing from scripture, the Constitution, and commentary by thought leaders like David Brooks and Mike Madrid, this episode delivers …
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E.J. Dionne: "Come, Let Us Reason Together" | Resisting Extremism and the Path to National Healing
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1:19:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan talks with renowned journalist, scholar, and public intellectual E.J. Dionne Jr. E.J. is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a syndicated columnist for The Washington Post, a professor at Georgetown University, and a prolific author. Together, they discuss democracy, faith, political polarization, and th…
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Stephen Lloyd-Moffett, professor of Religious Studies at California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo, CA, is also a campus moderator for the Veritas Forum, a non-profit organization that seeks to help students on college campuses explore truth in dialogue across religious beliefs. On today's episode, Tim, Rick and Stephen consider: W…
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The Unflinching Eye: McKay Coppins on Journalism, the Threats to Our Freedoms and the Power of Inquiry
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1:12:18🎙️Award-winning journalist and Atlantic staff writer McKay Coppins joins us to explore the delicate intersections of politics, faith, and journalism. From shadowing Donald Trump to chronicling the political journey of Mitt Romney, McKay shares what it takes to pursue truth in turbulent times. What We Discuss: What it’s like getting rare access to T…
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Michael Bräutigam on Ironic Thriving, Theological Paradox, and Psychological Dissonance
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50:15Michael Bräutigam on Ironic Thriving, Theological Paradox, and Psychological Dissonance by Center of Theological InquiryBy Center of Theological Inquiry
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I Was Right About the Law, But My Delivery Was WRONG: How to Discuss Threats to Our Rights Without Being a Jerk
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26:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares a candid reflection about a recent encounter where he was right on the facts and the law—but completely wrong in how he presented them. Yet if we're honest with ourselves about when we make mistakes, it's a good opportunity to learn, reminding us that how we communicate is just as important as what we commu…
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Untangling the Partisan Knot: A Balanced Look at Political News with Isaac Saul of Tangle
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1:13:36In this episode, we sit down with Isaac Saul, founder of Tangle, a widely respected, nonpartisan political newsletter. Isaac and his team bring a fresh approach to political journalism by curating multiple perspectives—right, left, and independent—on major stories of the day. Corey, a fan and avid reader of Tangle, dives deep into Isaac’s upbringin…
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(ICYMI) Beyond Right and Left: Rabbi Sharon Brous and the Courage to Ask 'What Do You See?' After October 7th
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1:08:54In this deeply moving episode, Corey Nathan welcomes Rabbi Sharon Brous, the senior and founding rabbi of IKAR, a groundbreaking Jewish community based in Los Angeles. Rabbi Brous is also the author of The Amen Effect: Ancient Wisdom to Heal Our Hearts and Mend Our Broken World. Together, they explore ancient traditions, mental health, spiritual le…
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The Religious Impulse And The Quest For God
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39:31On today’s episode, Stephen Lloyd-Moffett, professor of Religious Studies at California Polytechnic State University in San Luis Obispo, CA, speaks with Tim and Rick about the deeply human tendency to search for meaning in religious experience. Stephen shares a story from his younger years that would set him off on a vocational path of religious sc…
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From Bible School to 'Trump Grumpies': Gen Z Asks, What Would Jesus Really Do? with Emerson Riley Nathan
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1:19:36In this heartfelt and wide-ranging episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with a very special guest — his own son, Emerson Riley Nathan. Together, they dive into Gen Z’s unique perspective on faith, politics, and culture. As a young adult navigating the complexities of belief, identity, and creativity, Emerson offers refreshing candor about his spiri…
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Barbara McClure on the Role of Hope in Human Thriving
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Will Saletan: Navigating Toxic Partisanship and Challenging Extremist Absurdity
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1:28:38In this episode, we welcome back political journalist and author Will Saletan. Will, formerly of Slate and now a writer for The Bulwark, is known for his sharp insights on American democracy, political corruption, and authoritarianism. Will reflects on the pivotal events leading up to and following the 2024 election, including Joe Biden’s withdrawa…
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Dumb Ideas Welcome? Navigating Free Speech and Falsehoods in a Divided Democracy
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57:18In this solo episode, host Corey Nathan takes a deep dive into one of the foundational guidelines we've used in curating conversations both in person and online: handling misinformation. Corey reflects on his experiences moderating political and religious discussions, the evolution of social media moderation, and the fine balance between protecting…
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(Best of) David Brooks, HOW TO KNOW A PERSON: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen
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1:06:48This conversation with David Brooks was a real highlight. We originally recorded our talk just after his most recent book HOW TO KNOW A PERSON was released. Enjoy. You might recognize David Brooks from his columns in The New York Times or his essays in The Atlantic. Perhaps you’ve seen him on PBS NewsHour or Meet the Press. He’s also a prolific aut…
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The Moral Theology of Martin Luther King, Jr.
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32:40Today’s episode is a collaborative effort with the Think Biblically podcast, where Scott and Tim speak with Rev. Chris Brooks on the meaning of Dr. King’s legacy and some of its implications for institutions, churches, and individuals today. Show notes and a full transcript are available.By Biola University
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Mónica Guzmán: Breaking the Cycle of Outrage Through Fearlessly Curious Conversations
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1:03:18In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Monica Guzmán, Senior Fellow for Public Practice at Braver Angels, host of A Braver Way podcast, CEO of Reclaim Curiosity, and author of I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. Monica’s mission is to help bridge America’s political di…
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Can we bridge the partisan divide and have constructive dialogue about politics and religion with "them" - people who have different beliefs about democracy, politics and religion? Are we able to simply have civil, civic conversations? (We're grateful to have a number of new listeners. So we thought it'd be good to revisit this episode that was fir…
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A Frank Discussion on American Politics with an "Untethered Expat" Originally from Bucks County PA
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1:28:36In this episode, host Corey Nathan reconnects with his longtime friend Gary Keifer, an expat currently living in Peru. Gary brings a refreshingly honest and “untethered” perspective to U.S. politics, unfiltered by party loyalty or institutional affiliation. With a background in comedy, improv, and theater, Gary offers thoughtful insights rooted in …
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Speaking Truth to Power (and to the Pews): Peter Wehner on the Evangelical Vote and America's Future
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55:54In this conversation, host Corey Nathan welcomes back Peter Wehner, contributing writer at The Atlantic and The New York Times, senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and author of multiple books including The Death of Politics and City of Man. A former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, Pete brings a unique perspective shaped by his deep poli…
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Beyond Arguments: Setting Boundaries and Clearing the Brush for Civil Political and Religious Conversations
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38:26In this episode, we explore some essential tools for navigating difficult conversations in today’s polarized world. After all, we are part of The Democracy Group! And our goal with TDG and this program is to foster respectful, insightful discussions on politics, religion, and other sensitive topics—without resorting to hostility. In this solo episo…
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Preston Sprinkle (Ph.D.), good friend of Biola University and The Winsome Conviction Project, knows that being a public figure comes with a cost. Preston joins today’s episode to reflect with Tim and Rick on the times he has been critiqued and what it is like to be called out as heretic. They discuss the importance of accurately representing someon…
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Charlie Sykes - From Reagan Republicans to RFK Jr.: How the Right Lost Its Mind (Again)
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1:12:26In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Charlie Sykes, a prominent conservative commentator, former talk radio host, and founder of The Bulwark, who's currently writing and podcasting on his excellent Substack To the Contrary. Known for his sharp political insights and willingness to challenge the current trajectory of the Republican Part…
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Grave Concerns and Glimmers of Hope: Navigating the State of US Politics
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28:07In this episode, host Corey Nathan shares his candid thoughts on hope, concerns about the state of democracy, and the importance of engaging in meaningful conversations. Inspired by recent discussions with David French and Charlie Sykes, Corey explores whether he remains hopeful about the future—both at the national level and in his local community…
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Elijah Baloyi on Studying Religious Practices on the Ground in South Africa
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45:17Elijah Baloyi on Studying Religious Practices on the Ground in South Africa by Center of Theological InquiryBy Center of Theological Inquiry
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David French | Friends or Enemies? Overcoming Divides with Justice, Kindness, and Humility in a Polarized America
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1:15:36In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times, former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall. We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update o…
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How to Discuss Ukraine: First Principles, Facts, and Formulating Reasoned Positions
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33:54In this episode we dive into the complex issue of Ukraine, America's involvement, and the broader implications for democracy and global alliances. This episode is an exploration of how we can develop reasoned positions on global conflicts, engage in informed discussions, and recognize the limitations of our own expertise. What We Discuss How to app…
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Although trends show declines in church attendance, Dr. Rebecca McLaughlin (Ph.D. Cambridge University) believes we are living in an evangelistically pregnant time. Rebecca is back on the podcast to speak with Tim about this cultural moment and the need to learn from Jesus - his manner of living and his teaching, including the parable of the sower,…
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Rep. Ritchie Torres on Israel, Trump, and Political Extremism: A Congressman's Fight for Moral Clarity
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31:18In this episode we sit down with Congressman Ritchie Torres, a fighter from the Bronx who has spent his life advocating for his community. We discuss pressing issues such as the social safety net, housing inequality, mental health, bipartisanship, and Rep. Torres’ personal journey from public housing to Congress. We also touch on Israel, antisemiti…
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Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde on Faith, Politics, and Ethical Conversations in a Polarized Nation
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1:06:54In this timely edition of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, D.C., and the Washington National Cathedral. Bishop Budde is a well-respected spiritual leader who has appeared on PBS NewsHour, Meet the Press, Good Morning Amer…
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In this episode, host Corey Nathan takes on one of the biggest challenges in today’s society: toxic partisanship. He explores how political and social divisions have deepened, fueled by media, social networks, and entrenched ideological battles. But rather than just diagnosing the problem, Corey offers a powerful antidote—getting local and engaging…
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The Nature of Spiritual Authority (Podcast)
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18:06Discover the true nature of spiritual authority through the Greek concept of "Exousia." Bishop Houston reveals how authentic spiritual authority flows from divine appointment, not human acknowledgment. Learn why authority comes through surrender rather than striving and how connection to the divine source empowers genuine spiritual leadership. "C H…
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Harnessing Humility: The Transformative Power of Kenosis
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11:07"Exploring the depths of spirituality, faith, and personal growth through the lens of kenosis (self-emptying). Join me on a journey of discovery, transformation, and unlock potential." "C H O F Ministry: "Advancing God's Kingdom Through Innovative Education and Transformation."By Bishop, W. F. Houston, Jr, Inspirationalist
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MONEY, LIES, AND GOD: INSIDE THE MOVEMENT TO DESTROY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY with author and investigative journalist Katherine Stewart
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49:26In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes investigative journalist and author Katherine Stewart back to the show. Katherine has spent over 15 years researching and reporting on religious nationalism and its impact on American democracy. Her new book, Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy, exposes the deep financi…
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Tackle Political And Social Issues Like An Exile
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36:25Dr. Preston Sprinkle (Ph.D.) joins today’s episode to speak with Tim and Rick on the work he's doing to help foster civil, thoughtful, and faithful disagreements on contentious issues. Preston unpacks some of the motivations with his wildly popular Theology in the Raw podcast, and they also discuss the Theology in the Raw conference - an annual con…
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Have Christians Forgotten the First Commandment?
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34:04In this edition, Corey Nathan challenges listeners—especially his fellow Christians—to consider whether they have forgotten the first commandment: "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." He explores how idolatry has evolved beyond worshiping wooden idols and now manifests in politics, ideology, and the way Christians engage with their faith in a…
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California’s Path to Independence? A Conversation about CalExit with Marcus Ruiz Evans
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1:06:36In this episode, host Corey Nathan engages in a timely and candid discussion with Marcus Ruiz Evans, the leader of the CalExit movement. Marc has been spearheading efforts to make California an independent nation for over a decade, publishing California’s Next Century 2.0 in 2012. With the California Secretary of State recently approving a petition…
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The Homeless Conservative: Blake Fischer
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1:15:08In this episode, host Corey Nathan sits down with Blake Fischer, the creator and host of The Homeless Conservative podcast. Blake describes himself as a constitutional conservative who feels politically "homeless" in today’s climate. They dive deep into politics, faith, and media, all while challenging ideological silos in an engaging and candid co…
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