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With THE UNSTUCK CHURCH PODCAST, we invite you into the real-time conversations our team is having about church leadership every week. Hosted by Amy Anderson, this podcast explores common challenges in ministry and practical steps for tackling them. It’s like getting to be a fly on the wall of our staff meetings. Tune in weekly for: Insights, observations and trends for church leaders from the Unstuck team. Benchmarks in church growth and health from The Unstuck Group’s work serving hundreds ...
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Brand New Data on Church Staffing Trends: Q2 2025 Unstuck Church Report - Episode 398
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The newest edition of The Unstuck Church Report is here! Every quarter, The Unstuck Group compiles all the data we’ve collected to monitor trends in churches in the United States. Our Q2 report focuses on current staffing data and trends in North American churches. For this quarter’s report, we received survey responses from 251 churches, giving us…
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Live teaching or video teaching? It’s one of the most debated questions in any multisite conversation. Everyone seems to have a strong opinion, but the best choice isn’t always the most obvious. In this episode, Sean and Amy answer this age-old question with proven data and real stories. They also outline what to consider when making this decision …
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Multisite Structure & People Problems - Episode 396
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If you’ve ever tried to launch a second campus, you know the struggle is real. Turns out, most churches get their staffing and structure wrong from day one, but we’re here to save you from those painful missteps. In this episode, Amy and Sean dive into the math behind multisite staffing (hint: your ratios probably need to change), why rushing to bu…
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Multisite Missteps (Part 1): It's Us Vs. Them feat. Carlos Cardenas - Episode 395
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If you’ve got multiple locations and your team feels divided, this episode is for you. The dreaded “us vs. them” mentality can creep into any multisite church, creating unhealthy competition and fractured relationships between campus and central teams. Amy, Sean and special guest Carlos Cardenas, from Christ Fellowship Church in Miami, share their …
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Navigating Generosity in the Modern Church (feat. Doug Turner) - Episode 394
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In this episode, Amy sits down with Doug Turner, President of GenerosityOS, to talk about how church giving strategies have evolved (spoiler alert: episodic capital campaigns are so 2004). Doug brings decades of experience from helping churches like Willow Creek and Redeemer Presbyterian fund their vision, and he’s got some fresh insights on why ye…
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When Church Finances Feel Like Mission Impossible (feat. George Kamel) - Episode 393
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Do you wish your church could have more financial margin for ministry? Are your people struggling with debt and low giving? In this episode of The Unstuck Church Podcast, Sean interviews George Kamel from Ramsey Solutions about how Financial Peace University is helping churches break free from financial stress. We’re shooting straight with these qu…
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How to Not Hate Preaching About Money (feat. Jason Anderson) - Episode 392
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Talking about money in church can feel like walking on eggshells while juggling chainsaws. (Okay, that may be a bit dramatic, but are we wrong?) What if it didn’t have to be that way? In this episode, Pastor Jason Anderson (yes, that Anderson—he’s Amy’s husband and somehow still agreed to be on our podcast!) from Crossroads Church shares how he tur…
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Designing a Vision-Minded Funding Plan - Episode 391
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Feeling uneasy when it comes to church finances? You’re not alone. In this week’s episode, Sean and Amy dive deep into something that’s close to their hearts—creating a funding plan that actually supports your church’s vision. We’re not just talking spreadsheets and budgets here (though those are important!). We’re talking about aligning your resou…
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Wise and Foolish Church Budgeting - Episode 390
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Budgeting. Giving. Financial health. Money is often a taboo topic in churches. But what if we flipped the script? Money shouldn't be a source of anxiety—it should be a tool for mission. In this new series, Amy and Sean and some special guests will help church leaders develop a healthier relationship with church finances. From practical budgeting st…
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Engaging New People in Their Calling - Episode 389
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It's an oft-overlooked but crucial aspect of retention: engaging people in their calling. In this final episode of our series called "Reach & Retain Strategies," Amy interviews Noah Herrin, lead pastor of Way Church in Nashville, who shares insights from the remarkable journey of growing a church plant to 800 people in just 16 months while primaril…
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Crafting the Right Next Steps - Episode 388
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In this episode of The Unstuck Church Podcast, Sean and Amy continue their series on reach and retain strategies, featuring a compelling conversation with Doug Dameron from Orchard Church in Brighton, CO, about crafting effective next steps for new attendees. Doug shares how his team transformed their follow-up process, leading to dramatic improvem…
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Leveraging Your Biggest Front Door - Episode 387
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In this episode of The Unstuck Church Podcast, Amy and Sean dive into part two of our conversation on reach and retain strategies, focusing on how churches can leverage their weekend services as effective “front doors” for connecting with new people. From common misses like poor signage and untrained volunteers to practical solutions that create ex…
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Equipping Your Church for the Mission Field - Episode 386
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Frustrated by the persistent tug between pleasing your core people and reaching new guests? In this episode, Sean and Amy explore why reaching new people requires focus and how lack of clarity about who you’re trying to reach leads to ineffective ministry. We’re discussing how churches get stuck trying to be everything to everyone, what Scripture t…
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New Data - Q1 2025 Unstuck Church Report - Episode 385
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In this quarter’s edition of The Unstuck Church Report, Amy Anderson unpacks the latest trends showing both encouraging growth and engagement challenges in churches across America. While attendance numbers are increasing, the data reveals churches are grappling with engagement metrics that aren’t keeping pace. From small group participation to per …
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The Perfect Staff Structure for Never - Episode 384
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We’re wrapping up our series on church staffing oxymorons by tackling perhaps the most challenging one yet: the perfect staff structure for never. Many churches find themselves caught in a structure that doesn’t work for today’s needs and definitely won’t support tomorrow’s vision. It’s that nagging feeling that something’s off—workloads are uneven…
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The Team with The Right Wrong People - Episode 383
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In Part 2 of our church staffing series, Sean and Amy tackle another challenging oxymoron: having the right wrong people on your team. In this episode, we unpack: How to assess your current staff leaders beyond basic performance metrics Understanding the four levels of leadership capacity (10s, 50s, 100s, 1000s) The importance of evaluating roles s…
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The Understaffed Team with Too Many People - Episode 382
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In Part 1 of a new series we're calling "Church Staffing Oxymorons," Sean and Amy explore a common staffing oxymoron that all too many churches face: teams that are simultaneously understaffed and overstaffed. In this episode we unpack: Why churches often end up with misaligned staffing What this tension feels like for different ministry areas Comm…
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The 90's Called... They Want Their 3-Ring Binder Back - Episode 381
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The '90s called again, and they want their 3-ring binder back. In Part 4 of our series, Sean and Amy explore: Why documenting a strategy isn't the same as creating aligned action How churches sometimes use planning to avoid significant change The difference between treating symptoms vs. solving root problems What true organizational alignment looks…
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The 90's Called... They Want Their Core Values Back - Episode 380
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The '90s called, and they want their core values back. In Part 3 of our series, Sean and Amy discuss how churches can move beyond generic “permission to play” values to define authentic, culture-shaping behaviors that drive real organizational change. They cover: Why traditional church core values often end up as meaningless wall art The difference…
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The '90s Called, They Want Their 10-Year Vision Back - Episode 379
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The ‘90s called again, and they want their 10-year visions back. In Part 2 of our series, Amy and Sean explore how churches can move beyond outdated vision-setting approaches to create more focused, time-bound visions that actually drive change. In this episode, we discuss: Why the 10-year vision approach from the ‘90s no longer works in today’s fa…
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The '90s Called, They Want Their Mission Statement Back - Episode 378
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The '90s called, and they want their strategic planning process back. That binder that’s still on the shelf. The 10-year vision that has come and gone. So many churches are still doing vision, planning and strategy following an old playbook—a 30+ year-old playbook. Is there a more modern way to unify your church body around your vision? In this ser…
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Looking Back & Looking Ahead - Episode 377
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Wow, 2024, what a year of highs and lows. If there were ever a year to pause and look back, this is the one for us. In this episode, Sean and Amy are joined by Tiffany Deluccia, the third member of The Unstuck Group’s leadership team. We reflect on God’s faithfulness in 2024 and preview some of what’s to come in 2025. For the full episode transcrip…
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Predictable Challenges of Leading a Growing Church (Part 3): The Systems Side - Episode 376
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We have covered the things that can start to feel like crises related to the people side of growth, and we’ve covered the challenges you can expect related to the emotional side of growth. But there's one more area that contains a lot of practical, preventable challenges in a growing church: the systems and structure side of growth. In this episode…
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Predictable Challenges of Leading a Growing Church (Part 2): The Emotional Side - Episode 375
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Continued growth can feel like an engine. As a leader, you’re seeing results. You’re running on the high of seeing the fruits of all the effort, intention and faithfulness. You and the team have been on mission, and you’ve sensed God’s blessing and hand on the ministry. And then it all starts taking a toll, and if you’re not careful, things can go …
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Predictable Challenges of Leading a Growing Church (Part 1): The People Side - Episode 374
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When your church is in a season of growth, there are certain challenges that you are bound to run into. The good news is these challenges are predictable. But just because they are predictable doesn’t mean they are easy to navigate. In fact, some of the pastors going through a season of big momentum would tell you it’s one of the hardest seasons th…
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