About all things AppSec, DevOps, and DevSecOps. Hosted by Mike Shema and John Kinsella, the podcast focuses on helping its audience find and fix software flaws effectively.
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Inside the OWASP GenAI Security Project - Steve Wilson - ASW #352
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1:07:32Interest and participation in the OWASP GenAI Security Project has exploded over the last two years. Steve Wilson explains why it was important for the project to grow beyond just a Top Ten list and address more audiences than just developers. He also talks about how the growth of AI Agents influences the areas that appsec teams need to focus on. W…
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Finding Large Bounties with Large Language Models - Nico Waisman - ASW #351
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Changing the Vuln Conversation from Volume to Remediation - Francesco Cipollone - ASW #350
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1:14:32Dealing with vulns tends to be a discussion about prioritization. After all, there a tons of CVEs and dependencies with known vulns. It's important to figure out how to present developers with useful vuln info that doesn't overwhelm them. Francesco Cipollone shares how to redirect that discussion to focus on remediation and how to incorporate LLMs …
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Design Errors in Entra ID, Design Defenses in iOS, Design Difficulties in DeepSeek - ASW #349
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58:43In the news, Microsoft encounters a new cascade of avoidable errors with Entra ID, Apple improves iOS with hardware-backed memory safety, DeepSeek demonstrates the difficulty in reviewing models, curl reduces risk by eliminating code, preserving the context of code reviews, and more! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episo…
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How OWASP's GenAI Security Project keeps up with the pace of AI/Agentic changes - Scott Clinton - ASW #348
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1:08:00This week, we chat with Scott Clinton, board member and co-chain of the OWASP GenAI Security Project. This project has become a massive organization within OWASP with hundreds of volunteers and thousands of contributors. This team has been cranking out new tools, reports and guidance for practitioners month after month for over a year now. We start…
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Limitations and Liabilities of LLM Coding - Seemant Sehgal, Ted Shorter - ASW #347
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1:17:09Up first, the ASW news of the week. At Black Hat 2025, Doug White interviews Ted Shorter, CTO of Keyfactor, about the quantum revolution already knocking on cybersecurity’s door. They discuss the terrifying reality of quantum computing’s power to break RSA and ECC encryption—the very foundations of modern digital life. With 2030 set as the deadline…
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AI, APIs, and the Next Cyber Battleground: Black Hat 2025 - Chris Boehm, Idan Plotnik, Josh Lemos, Michael Callahan - ASW #346
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1:08:11In this must-see BlackHat 2025 interview, Doug White sits down with Michael Callahan, CMO at Salt Security, for a high-stakes conversation about Agentic AI, Model Context Protocol (MCP) servers, and the massive API security risks reshaping the cyber landscape. Broadcast live from the CyberRisk TV studio at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, the discussion pu…
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Translating Security Regulations into Secure Projects - Roman Zhukov, Emily Fox - ASW #345
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1:13:31The EU Cyber Resilience Act joins the long list of regulations intended to improve the security of software delivered to users. Emily Fox and Roman Zhukov share their experience education regulators on open source software and educating open source projects on security. They talk about creating a baseline for security that addresses technical items…
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Managing the Minimization of a Container Attack Surface - Neil Carpenter - ASW #344
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1:08:17A smaller attack surface should lead to a smaller list of CVEs to track, which in turn should lead to a smaller set of vulns that you should care about. But in practice, keeping something like a container image small has a lot of challenges in terms of what should be considered minimal. Neil Carpenter shares advice and anecdotes on what it takes to…
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The Future of Supply Chain Security - Janet Worthington - ASW #343
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42:13Open source software is a massive contribution that provides everything from foundational frameworks to tiny single-purpose libraries. We walk through the dimensions of trust and provenance in the software supply chain with Janet Worthington. And we discuss how even with new code generated by LLMs and new terms like slopsquatting, a lot of the most…
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Uniting software development and application security - Will Vandevanter, Jonathan Schneider - ASW #342
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58:07Maintaining code is a lot more than keeping dependencies up to date. It involved everything from keeping old code running to changing frameworks to even changing implementation languages. Jonathan Schneider talks about the engineering considerations of refactoring and rewriting code, why code maintenance is important to appsec, and how to build con…
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How Product-Led Security Leads to Paved Roads - Julia Knecht - ASW #341
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1:04:11A successful strategy in appsec is to build platforms with defaults and designs that ease the burden of security choices for developers. But there's an important difference between expecting (or requiring!) developers to use a platform and building a platform that developers embrace. Julia Knecht shares her experience in building platforms with an …
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Rise of Compromised LLMs - Sohrob Kazerounian - ASW #340
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1:06:35AI is more than LLMs. Machine learning algorithms have been part of infosec solutions for a long time. For appsec practitioners, a key concern is always going to be how to evaluate the security of software or a system. In some cases, it doesn't matter if a human or an LLM generated code -- the code needs to be reviewed for common flaws and design p…
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Getting Started with Security Basics on the Way to Finding a Specialization - ASW #339
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1:07:50What are some appsec basics? There's no monolithic appsec role. Broadly speaking, appsec tends to branch into engineering or compliance paths, each with different areas of focus despite having shared vocabularies and the (hopefully!) shared goal of protecting software, data, and users. The better question is, "What do you want to secure?" We discus…
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Checking in on the State of Appsec in 2025 - Janet Worthington, Sandy Carielli - ASW #338
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1:07:15Appsec still deals with ancient vulns like SQL injection and XSS. And now LLMs are generating code along side humans. Sandy Carielli and Janet Worthington join us once again to discuss what all this new code means for appsec practices. On a positive note, the prevalence of those ancient vulns seems to be diminishing, but the rising use of LLMs is e…
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Simple Patterns for Complex Secure Code Reviews - Louis Nyffenegger - ASW #337
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38:26Manual secure code reviews can be tedious and time intensive if you're just going through checklists. There's plenty of room for linters and compilers and all the grep-like tools to find flaws. Louis Nyffenegger describes the steps of a successful code review process. It's a process that starts with understanding code, which can even benefit from a…
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How Fuzzing Barcodes Raises the Bar for Secure Code - Artur Cygan - ASW #336
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1:01:18Fuzzing has been one of the most successful ways to improve software quality. And it demonstrates how improving software quality improves security. Artur Cygan shares his experience in building and applying fuzzers to barcode scanners, smart contracts, and just about any code you can imagine. We go through the useful relationship between unit tests…
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Threat Modeling With Good Questions and Without Checklists - Farshad Abasi - ASW #335
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1:08:00What makes a threat modeling process effective? Do you need a long list of threat actors? Do you need a long list of terms? What about a short list like STRIDE? Has an effective process ever come out of a list? Farshad Abasi joins our discussion as we explain why the answer to most of those questions is No and describe the kinds of approaches that …
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Bringing CISA's Secure by Design Principles to OT Systems - Matthew Rogers - ASW #334
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1:09:09CISA has been championing Secure by Design principles. Many of the principles are universal, like adopting MFA and having opinionated defaults that reduce the need for hardening guides. Matthew Rogers talks about how the approach to Secure by Design has to be tailored for Operational Technology (OT) systems. These systems have strict requirements o…
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AIs, MCPs, and the Acutal Work that LLMs Are Generating - ASW #333
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39:06The recent popularity of MCPs is surpassed only by the recent examples deficiencies of their secure design. The most obvious challenge is how MCPs, and many more general LLM use cases, have erased two decades of security principles behind separating code and data. We take a look at how developers are using LLMs to generate code and continue our sea…
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AI in AppSec: Agentic Tools, Vibe Coding Risks & Securing Non-Human Identities - Mo Aboul-Magd, Shahar Man, Brian Fox, Mark Lambert - ASW #332
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1:04:35ArmorCode unveils Anya—the first agentic AI virtual security champion designed specifically for AppSec and product security teams. Anya brings together conversation and context to help AppSec, developers and security teams cut through the noise, prioritize risks, and make faster, smarter decisions across code, cloud, and infrastructure. Built into …
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Appsec News & Interviews from RSAC on Identity and AI - Rami Saas, Charlotte Wylie - ASW #331
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1:01:48In the news, Coinbase deals with bribes and insider threat, the NCSC notes the cross-cutting problem of incentivizing secure design, we cover some research that notes the multitude of definitions for secure design, and discuss the new Cybersecurity Skills Framework from the OpenSSF and Linux Foundation. Then we share two more sponsored interviews f…
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Secure Code Reviews, LLM Coding Assistants, and Trusting Code - Rey Bango, Karim Toubba, Gal Elbaz - ASW #330
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1:09:38Developers are relying on LLMs as coding assistants, so where are the LLM assistants for appsec? The principles behind secure code reviews don't really change based on who write the code, whether human or AI. But more code means more reasons for appsec to scale its practices and figure out how to establish trust in code, packages, and designs. Rey …
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AI Era, New Risks: How Data-Centric Security Reduces Emerging AppSec Threats - Vishal Gupta, Idan Plotnik - ASW #329
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1:03:03We catch up on news after a week of BSidesSF and RSAC Conference. Unsurprisingly, AI in all its flavors, from agentic to gen, was inescapable. But perhaps more surprising (and more unfortunate) is how much the adoption of LLMs has increased the attack surface within orgs. The news is heavy on security issues from MCPs and a novel alignment bypass a…
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Secure Designs, UX Dragons, Vuln Dungeons - Jack Cable - ASW #328
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44:08In this live recording from BSidesSF we explore the factors that influence a secure design, talk about how to avoid the bite of UX dragons, and why designs should put classes of vulns into dungeons. But we can't threat model a secure design forever and we can't oversimplify guidance for a design to be "more secure". Kalyani Pawar and Jack Cable joi…
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