A half hour interview show featuring innovative leaders who cultivate a culture of giving, belonging and thriving together. In each episode, we’ll explore how generosity at work impacts the bottom line and address cultural dynamics, team behavior and peer relationships.
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Shannon Cassidy Podcasts
On Wisdom features a social and cognitive scientist in Toronto and an educator in London discussing the latest empirical science regarding the nature of wisdom. Igor Grossmann runs the Wisdom & Culture Lab at the University of Waterloo in Canada. Charles Cassidy runs the Evidence-Based Wisdom project in London, UK. The podcast thrives on a diet of freewheeling conversation on wisdom, decision-making, wellbeing, and society and includes regular guests spots with leading behavioral scientists ...
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252. Celebrating Five Years of Generosity
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54:14“Generosity means that you give of the things that you really can't get back.” “I was happiest and most fulfilled anytime I was giving or fully engaged with another person.” “Generally when people hear generosity, they think you're asking them for money. So I specifically wanted to focus on generosity that had nothing to do with money, especially u…
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251. How Presence Initiates True Generosity with Tracy Davidson
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38:11“When we give, in this case, presence, what we get is like genuine connection and we get to make that person feel as valued as they really are.” “Every act of generosity, especially giving your time, is meaningful.” “Truly in every moment, there are lots of things to be grateful for. Sometimes they're just harder to find, but they're always there i…
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250. How Empowering Your Team Drives Peak Performance with Mark Moroz
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40:14“Empower everyone to do what’s right for our customers.” “If you take care of your employees, they’re going to take care of your customers.” “The roll up the sleeves factor. We want people who are going to get things done and not worry about credit.” Episode Summary | In this conversation, Shannon Cassidy interviews Mark Moroz, the Executive Vice P…
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67: The Wisdom Turing Test - Part Two (with Steve Rathje)
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49:58What can insights from the psychology of technology teach us about wisdom in the age of AI? In this special follow-up episode, Igor and Charles are joined by Steve Rathje to explore how classic ideas like the Turing Test hold up now that AI can talk compellingly about human wisdom. Steve unpacks what today’s generative models are actually capable o…
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249. Building Your Leadership Legacy with Kate Paine
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40:09“I think Legacy is, did you positively impact someone’s life?” “Listen deeply and listen with various parts of you.” “There’s no failing, there’s just learning.” Episode summary | In this conversation, Shannon Cassidy interviews Kate Paine, the Vice President of Corporate Marketing at Saint-Gobain North America. They discuss the principles of gener…
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248. One for All: The Power of Trust with Bill Straub
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35:43When there's a high degree of trust, especially in teams, the sky's the limit. Flexibility, community, excellence, collaboration and growth, and then proximity to leadership. All those things kind of to me have an underpinning on gratitude. We need to continue to grow and have the culture evolve. Episode summary | In this week's conversation, Shann…
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What happens when we ask our own fantastic listeners — and AI — what it means to live wisely? In this episode, Igor and Charles hand the mic to members of the On Wisdom audience to hear their answers to the big questions usually reserved for scientists and philosophers. But there’s a twist: one set of responses was provided by AI. We invite you to …
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247. Reframing Luxury: Creating Transformative Client Experiences with Neen James
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40:14“Luxury is about experiences, not things. We all have the opportunity to give someone a luxury experience.” “Personalization requires information, customization requires connection.” “Listen with your eyes.” Episode summary | In this episode of ROG, Shannon Cassidy interviews Neen James, a leadership strategist known for her insights on generosity …
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246. Leadership that Listens: Giving Your Team a Voice with Jon Sichel
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45:13“If you give credit to people who deserve it, you will be recognized as a great leader giving your team members the ability to have a voice.” “Trusting your team leads to better outcomes.” “Being able to read a room, understand an audience, disarm when you need to, and uplift when you can is the best gift I can give or offer.” Episode summary | In …
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245. Putting the "Mate" Back in Teammate with Shayna Goodworth
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38:35“Mateship is essentially a code of conduct that embodies friendship, equality, solidarity, and it's often forged in adversity.” “We all have something to give one another.” “Be generous with your time when you can.” Episode summary | In this episode of the Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Shayna Goodworth, a yoga teach…
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244. Why Risk-Taking and Adaptability Fuel Bold Leadership with Gemma Toner
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45:26“Take more risks. Take them early and often.” “I think a generous leader is someone that looks at you for the long view and they see you.” “Generosity is having the courage to also have that moment when you have to deliver that moment that isn’t inspiring, the honest truth that we all sometimes need to hear as well… and encourage them along the way…
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243. How to Balance Innovation and Stability in Leadership with Kenon Chen
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46:22“We should always test rigorously new innovation before putting it out in the wild to ensure stability.” “You can't really go after the really big things that you want to achieve if you don't get the small things right.” “One way to think about generosity is about exceeding, you know, expectations of what you're supposed to do and doing things over…
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From the Vault #3. How Empathetic Leadership Can Change Your Company with Susan Chapman-Hughes
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33:35“Being an empathetic leader… knowing who your people are, really caring about them, leading with understanding versus judgment is so critical.” “If you want to be treated well and given opportunities and, you know, have people invest in you and all those kinds of things, then you got to be willing to do that yourself.” “Vulnerability is not a bad t…
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242. Reimagining Insurance: A Company Built on Care with Jamie Reid and Gabe Erle
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48:35“It's really simple. It's just really just caring about your people and putting people first and then that ends up becoming a huge driver in growth.” “Accountability is a big aspect of care. It's how you show up that shows how much you care about what we're doing and why we're doing it.” “Vulnerability is an act of generosity.” Episode summary | In…
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From the Vault #2. The Endless Possibilities of AI, Allyship and Authenticity
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43:20“With AI, there is so much to innovate, it gives people an equality.” “Everybody has something to give.” “There are three things we all need: a coach, a mentor, and a sponsor. A coach talks to you, a mentor talks with you, and a sponsor talks about you.” Episode summary | In this episode of Return on Generosity, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Yve…
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241. Why Your Workplace Attitude Matters with Trish Scanlon
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33:41"Your attitude matters; control what you can control." "Surfing the wave means being flexible." "The truth is always best." Episode summary | In this episode of ROG Return on Generosity, host Shannon Cassidy interviews Trish Scanlon, a seasoned branded entertainment executive. Trish shares her journey from Pittsburgh to leading creative teams for m…
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From the Vault #1. The Magic of Harry Potter
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30:32“The only thing we have in common is the fact that he’s magical and I’m creating magic in these schools moving kids forward.” “I believe most people have compassion in their soul.” “Are you willing to share without expecting anything back?” Episode summary | In this episode of ROG, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Harry Potter, a retired education …
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240. Roots of Generosity: What Our Kids Teach Us (Part 2)
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41:41“Action over words.” “Where you can show up, show up.” “It doesn’t cost anything to be nice.” “The physical embodiment of love is being present.” Episode summary | In this episode of the Return on Generosity podcast, host Jabari Whitehead engages with guests Tay Person and Mike Wernert in a heartfelt discussion about the importance of generosity, s…
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239. Roots of Generosity: How Fatherhood Shapes the Way We Give (Part 1)
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42:48“Look past people’s faults and find their needs.” “I knew I couldn’t teach a kid until that kid knew I cared about them or until I made a connection with them.” “The grind is worth it.” Episode summary | In this episode of the Return on Generosity podcast, host Jabari Whitehead engages in a heartfelt conversation with guests Tay Person and Mike Wer…
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238. Reclaiming Joy: Living Fully After Hardship with Linda Shively
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29:38“Happiness is often around an external event or external situation where joy is internal.” “You can’t pour from an empty soul.” “You can choose how to show up.” Episode summary | In this episode of ROG, Shannon Cassidy speaks with Linda Shively, a neuroscience and mindset coach, about the importance of joy, resilience, and generosity. Linda shares …
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237. From NFL to Non-Profit: Tackling Rare Diseases with Brett Brackett
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43:52“[Rare Diseases Research] deserves to be celebrated the same way that we celebrate athletes and sports in this country.” “Giving is the greatest form of getting.” “You always have a chance to positively impact other people, it's just a matter of what you do with the moments you have.” Episode summary | In this episode of ROG, Shannon Cassidy interv…
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236. Igniting Innovation: Inclusion and Generosity in the Patent World with Yvette Thornton
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45:43"Everybody has value to give." “It’s not a game breaker, it’s a game changer.” “How are you doing that differently? How are you going to stand out from the crowd?” Episode summary | In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy interviews Yvette Thornton, a registered patent agent and advocate for innovation and wome…
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235. The Art of “Relationshipping” with Lani Nelson-Zlupko
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56:36“Relationship is a noun, but 'relationshipping' is a verb and it takes a lot of agency and some skill.” "You have to know what you want." "Pause is power." Episode summary | In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, executive coach and psychotherapist Dr. Lani Nelson-Zlupko describes the difference between relationships and “relation…
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234. Overcoming Adversity: The Rise of a Fitness Icon | Sydney Cummings Houdyshell (Part 2)
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33:00"I'm so grateful to be alive." "You have a life, let's freaking go!" Episode summary | In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with fitness entrepreneur Sydney Cummings Houdyshell about her journey from collegiate athlete to a leading figure in the fitness industry. Sydney shares her experiences overcomi…
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233. Overcoming Adversity: The Rise of a Fitness Icon | Sydney Cummings Houdyshell (Part 1)
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36:06“It's important to think bigger than what you know is possible” Episode summary | In this episode of the ROG Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy interviews Sydney Cummings Houdyshell, a certified personal trainer and founder of Royal Change. Sydney shares her journey from a small-town athlete to a global fitness influencer, emphasizi…
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232. Crushing the Soul Crushers with Tim Leake
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49:24“Making progress is soul-crusher free." "We can control how we react to it." "Assume positive intent." Episode summary | In this conversation, Tim Leake, founder of Let's Lightbulb, discusses how to make work enjoyable and productive. He shares insights on creativity, collaboration, and the importance of humor in high-stakes environments. Tim empha…
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65: Religion as Make-Believe (with Neil Van Leeuwen)
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58:14Is religious belief a form of make-believe — and if so, what deeper truths might we be acting out? Neil Van Leeuwen joins Igor and Charles to explore the psychological roots of religion, the nature of belief, and how sacred values shape group identity. Igor reflects on the blurring line between religious and political convictions, Neil argues that …
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231. The Art of Self-Management in a Busy World with Jason Henkel
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52:07"Feelings fully felt is bliss." "Breath is always free." "Self-augmentation is the key." Episode summary | In this episode of the Return on Generosity podcast, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Jason Henkel, founder of Focus to Evolve, about achieving balance and productivity without burnout. Jason shares his journey from a hectic corporate life to …
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230. The Power of Kindness with Nomi Bergman
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43:28"Share your likes before your concerns." "Life is not a dress rehearsal." Episode summary | In this engaging conversation, Nomi Bergman shares her journey from a challenging childhood in athletics to becoming a successful leader in the technology sector. She emphasizes the importance of kindness, generosity, and positive intent in leadership, drawi…
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229. Breaking Barriers in the World of Journalism with May Lee
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57:13"Find joy every day." Episode summary | Susan Jin Davis and May Lee explore the themes of generosity, identity, and resilience shaped by their immigrant experiences. They discuss the challenges of growing up as children of immigrants, the impact of cultural concepts like Han, and the transformative power of loss. May shares her journey as a journal…
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228. Bridging the Gap for Rural Veterans with Michelle Lang
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47:40"I want to make it less hard for veterans." "We are stronger together." "Just show up, ask questions." Episode summary | Shannon Cassidy speaks with Michelle Lang, the Executive Director of Operation Honor Rural Salute. Michelle shares her personal journey as an Army wife and the challenges faced by veterans transitioning to civilian life. The conv…
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227. You Have a Choice | Take Your Ego Out of It with Charisse Fontes
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49:04“A lot of the things I work on are not HARD problems, they’re HEART problems.” “If you name it, you can tame it.” “It is in our Unity that we can elevate our Humanity.” ___________________________________________________ This episode contains discussions of rape and sexual assault, which may be disturbing or triggering for some listeners. We encour…
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226. Empowering Women | The Tao of Self-Confidence with Sheena Yap Chan
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50:05“The biggest thing that holds women back is low self-esteem” “We’re imperfect and it’s totally okay.” "Women can do so many amazing things." Episode summary | Sheena Yap Chan, a Wall Street Journal bestselling author and renowned podcaster, shares her journey of overcoming cultural barriers and personal trauma to empower women, particularly Asian w…
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225. From Struggle to Strength | A Green Beret's Recovery with Scott Mann
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50:38"Storytelling heals the brain." "No struggle, no story." "Life happens in moments." Episode summary | In this episode of Return on Generosity, host Shannon Cassidy speaks with Scott Mann, a former Green Beret and founder of Rooftop Leadership. They discuss the importance of generosity in leadership, the power of storytelling, and how to build trust…
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224. Silencing Your Inner Critic | A Pathway to Self-Acceptance with Dr. Laura Gallaher
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54:52"Choose to be okay with who you are." "Self-acceptance is not the opposite of self-improvement; it is the opposite of self-judgment." "It's about being more at peace with the imperfection that exists in all of us." "You are never responding to the world around you, ever - you are only ever responding to the meaning that you're putting on what is ha…
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64: The Potency and Potential of Social Networks (with Nicholas Christakis)
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59:14Are your choices really your own — or are they quietly shaped by the people around you? Nicholas Christakis joins Igor and Charles to reveal the hidden power of social networks, from the surprising spread of kindness and cooperation to the ripple effects that shape our health, decisions, and even our wisdom. Igor uncovers the invisible social force…
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223. Dr. Kristopher Brown - Empowered Leadership
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42:30"I want to be what I needed." "Culture drives everything." "Generosity and empathy go a long way." "Never abandon who you are." “Everybody comes to the table dealing with something.” Episode summary | Dr. Kristopher Brown shares his journey in education, highlighting his commitment to creating a positive school environment. He discusses the importa…
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222. Lyn Wineman - Be The Leader You Would Follow
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45:54"Clarity is key." "Be the leader you would want to follow." Episode summary | In this engaging conversation, Shannon Cassidy interviews Lyn Wineman, founder of KidGlov, an advertising agency dedicated to helping changemakers amplify their impact. Lyn shares her journey from a small town in Nebraska to becoming a leader in purpose-driven marketing. …
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221. Justin Jones-Fosu - Respectfully Disagree
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49:05"We need to challenge our perspective.” "We need to agree to respect." “Turn confrontation into a conversation.” “There's humanity on different sides of conversations.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Justin Jones-Fosu 01:18 Justin's Upbringing and Early Influences 03:25 Lessons from a Challenging Childhood 05:32 Confronting Absence: A Journey to U…
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63: The AI Mirror: Why Machines Reflect Us More Than They Think (with Shannon Vallor)
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44:30Can AI ever be truly wise, or are we just seeing reflections of ourselves? Philosophy Professor Shannon Vallor joins Igor and Charles to explore how technology shapes human wisdom, why we’ve been thinking about AI all wrong, and what it really means to align machines with our values. Shannon unpacks the AI Mirror metaphor, suggesting that today’s A…
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"Feedback is a gift.” "You do what is best for your career, not what's comfortable for other people." “We trust the people who tell us the truth.” “I really subscribe to the idea that you should do something once a year that scares the crap out of you.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Tessa White and Her Journey 02:51 Navigating Career Challenges a…
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219. Dr. Maureen Reusche - Graceful Generosity
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43:25"We lead how we were led.” "Generosity is giving of your time.'" Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Maureen Reusche 03:02 Dr. Reusche's Educational Journey 06:12 Building Relationships in Education 09:00 The Influence of Family on Leadership 11:47 Generosity in Leadership 15:03 Navigating Challenges During the Pandemic 18:08 The Role of a Superint…
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"Meet 10 to 15 new people every week.” "Ask, How can I help you? Shut up, listen.'" “Get better 1% every day.” “Start building your network today.” “It's bringing value to people and transforming them very little or transforming them a lot. That's it.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Steve Ramona and His Impact 01:25 Building Relationships: The Fou…
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"Generosity is good for the brain.” ”Be intentional and ask yourself, 'When was the last time I did something for the first time?'” “We have to intentionally put ourselves in new spaces.” “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The next best time is today.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Intercultural Creativity 02:53 The Journey of Genei…
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216. Abby Havermann - Get Out of Your Mind
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43:29"Growth is not linear.” ”Focus more on who you're being and less on what you're doing.” “We're all human beings. One is not better than another.” “Accept where you are when you’re there.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Abby Haverman 01:30 Abby's Early Life and Background 03:05 Transformation Through Adversity 07:15 Awakening to Self-Worth 09:36 Un…
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215. Jabari Whitehead - Better Us, Better Them
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52:26"One of the best decisions I've ever made as a leader is just getting out of the way of people doing the work and being more of a support." "But to go to a place where people allow you to be yourself and to grow with you is a great form of generosity that no leader should ever overlook." "The obstacle is the way. The obstacle is the way. Whatever y…
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214. Jeff Benton & Brett Weinroth - From Chaos to Coherence
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47:32"We are the creators of our own lives." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Paragon Performance Evolution 04:52 Personal Journeys and Inspirations 09:55 The Impact of Stress and Mental Health 15:01 Understanding Emotions and Thought Patterns 20:06 Techniques for Coherence and Emotional Regulation 25:09 The Science of Heart-Focused Breathing 30:04 Gener…
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213. What Small Shifts Will You Make in 2025? | Generous Leadership Coaching Tip
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6:40“...And the reason for five degrees is that 5 % of our behavior is self-regulated willpower, which means 95 % is habit. The only way that we can create lasting change is through incremental steps.” Episode summary | In this final episode of 2024, Shannon Cassidy introduces the Five Degree Principle, a framework designed to facilitate meaningful cha…
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"...if we could put people in the water and teach them to surf, we'd actually have to force them to suck at something again...In business, you don't teach people to fail because failure is not an option. But our best learnings come from failure..." Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Brian Formato and Groove Management 06:31 Innovative Learning Approac…
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211. Susan McPherson - The Lost Art of Connecting
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29:39“...if you listen carefully when people tell you these things, which is so hard because we have so many distractions, but if you listen carefully, you can find ways to be helpful, to be responsible, to be reliable, to be trustworthy, all the things that make us fully functioning and valuable humans.” Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Susan McPherson …
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