A podcast exploring the science and learning about the scientists from southeast Utah and the Colorado Plateau. Produced by Science Moab, KZMU, and USU Extension
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We take you on a sensory journey through some of the greatest destinations featured in our Wanderlust magazine.
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Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
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Canyons of the Colorado, or The exploration of the Colorado River and its Canyons by John Wesley Powell
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John Wesley Powell was a pioneer American explorer, ethnologist, and geologist in the 19th Century. In 1869 he set out to explore the Colorado and the Grand Canyon. He gathered nine men, four boats and food for ten months and set out from Green River, Wyoming, on May 24. Passing through dangerous rapids, the group passed down the Green River to its confluence with the Colorado River (then also known as the Grand River upriver from the junction), near present-day Moab, Utah. The expedition’s ...
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Discover Moab: Indigenous History, Deep Science and the Wild West in Utah’s Adventure Town
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33:44Moab, Utah, is one of the best adventure towns in the United States. Located on the doorstep of two of the country’s most spectacular national parks, and surrounded by mile-upon-mile of red rock canyons ripe for exploration, Moab is an outdoor lover’s dream. But dig a little deeper and you will find a wonder of science, history and ancient cultures…
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Drylands: The Dark Horse of Carbon Cycling
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24:16Drylands play a critical role in global ecosystems as well as the carbon cycle. We talk with ecologist Brooke Osborne about the fascinating world of biogeochemistry and dryland science. Covering 40% of the Earth's surface and hosting a third of the human population, heterogeneous drylands have low resource availability and therefore are highly sens…
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The 2026 Good To Go List represents the most exciting moments of what travel can offer for the curious, intrepid and responsible traveller. From milestone anniversaries to groundbreaking cultural events, this list reminds us that travel keeps us connected to the world and to each other. It’s about engaging with places in a way that celebrates herit…
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2025 Year End Recap w/ the Distance to Empty Boys
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Discover the American South: Gullah Culture, Route 66 and the Delta Blues
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39:17When it comes to travel, it’s always the people you meet that make the trip. That is especially true in the American South, where the locals are renowned as some of the friendliest and most genuine people in the country. Today, we’re going to meet four locals keeping the heritage of the South alive. Key Fletcher is going to take us to Little Rock, …
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Mammoth 200 - Part 1: The Anniversary Adventure Presented by Chaos Crewing Co.
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Exploring The Impact of Sleep Disruption w/ Dr. Flavie Waters
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Discover the American South: Good Cookin’, Sweet Bourbon and Wild Horses
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37:51When it comes to travel, it’s always the people you meet that make the trip. That is especially true in the American South, where the locals are renowned as some of the friendliest and most genuine people in the country. Today, we’re going to meet three of them who are preserving and conserving the flavours and natural beauty of the South. Chef Tre…
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The Most Extreme Moab 240 Yet w/ Phil Lowry
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Ultra Family: The Field Trip Five's Epic Journey
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Discover Guatemala: Active Volcanoes, Award-winning Gastronomy and 3,000-years of Maya History
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33:52For a small country, Guatemala packs a big punch. With a Maya history that dates back 3,000-years, a strong Indigenous culture, and an abundance of nature experiences, we think Guatemala should be on the list of any serious traveller. From the volcano lined Lake Atitlán, to the extensive rainforest of the Maya Biosphere Reserve and the vibrant capi…
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The Science of Sleep Disruption & Hallucinations in Ultrarunning w/ Dr. Sarah Reeve
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Meet the locals of Adelaide and South Australia
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51:43In today’s episode, we’re going to be travelling across South Australia from the stunning turquoise blues of endless coastlines to the dramatic rusty reds of the Flinders Ranges and Outback. We’ll explore each destination in the company of an expert local guide - including a past winner of Wanderlust’s Guide of the Year award! They’ll take us from …
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Border to Border 3X: Troy Croxdale's Epic Triple Crown Adventure
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Nine 200+ Mile Races in One Year w/ Adam Williams
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This show is part of a series exploring Science Moab’s School to Science Program, connecting students with scientists in the field, the lab, and beyond. In this episode, we talk with mentor Emily Lessner, paleontologist for the Bureau of Land Management, and Shadis McDaniel, a recent Grand County High School graduate. Shadis joined Emily on a coupl…
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From paddling a canoe down some of the most beautiful stretches of water in the USA, to road tripping beside the largest freshwater lake in the country, the midwestern US state of Minnesota is a land of epic landscapes and unique experiences. In today’s episode we’re taking a road trip from the culturally rich Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Pau…
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A lichen is a colony of algae or cyanobacteria living interactively with fungus and bacteria in a mutual or symbiotic relationship, but for Steve Leavitt, a lichen is a hotspot of diversity and an indicator of ecological health. Steve is in charge of one of the largest lichen collections in North America at BYU where he teaches and directs the Li…
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The Art of Going Long w/ Jeff Garmire
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When people think of New York, they often just think of New York City. But escape the hustle and bustle of the city and you will find mountains, waterfalls, wineries and more than a thousand islands to explore. In today’s episode, we’re going beyond the famous icons of the city and taking you into the heart of New York State. Highlights include: Di…
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Letting Off Steam: Travel Back in Time on Colorado’s Most Beautiful Rail Journey
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31:44The Durango & Silverton Narrow Gauge Railway is more than just a scenic ride. It’s a journey back in time. Founded in 1880, this mountain railroad was first set up to ferry workers from the wild west town of Durango to the mines of the San Juan Mountains, and has been in continuous operation since then. In today’s episode, travel writer James Ruddy…
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Moab 240 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies w/ Wes Ritner
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Bear Necessities: Surviving the Divide 200 w/ Brennan Fawcett
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Boston Through the Seasons: Past, Present and Future
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38:26With its leafy parks, cobbled streets and a packed calendar of events, Boston is a city that can be explored year round. From autumn colours and ice-skating in winter to spring hikes and summer beaches, this episode will whisk you away to one of North America’s most vibrant cities to discover Boston through the seasons. But we’ll also explore its p…
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Secret California: Giant Sequoias, Underground Gardens and a Foodie Paradise in Fresno County
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35:33In this episode, we’re going to explore a different side to California. We all know the glittering beaches and iconic coastal cities of the Golden State, but today we’re going to let you in on a little secret called Fresno County. Located in California’s Central Valley, Fresno County is the base camp for three of America’s most beautiful national p…
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Mammoth 200 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies
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Across the Colorado Plateau, pinyon-juniper ecosystems are facing more and more stress due to increasing heat and aridity. Today we talk with Seth Munson, a plant and ecosystem ecologist with the U.S. Geological Survey Southwest Biological Science Center in Flagstaff, Arizona. Seth’s research focuses on how dryland ecosystems respond to drought, wi…
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Transcending Distance: Manuela Vilaseca on 200s
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Ecuador’s Beating Heart: Exploring Quito’s Abundant Biodiversity
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39:41Sitting on the slopes of the Pichincha volcano, the Ecuadorian capital of Quito is renowned for being a melting pot of Indigenous and European culture. Step beyond the northwest city limits, however, and it is draped in natural beauty and brimming with wildlife, much of which can be seen here, and nowhere else on Earth. From hummingbirds to condors…
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The Ultra Gobi 400KM w/ Dion Leonard
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Utah's Chinle Formation: Understanding Life in the Triassic
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25:25Randy Irmis, a paleontologist and curator at the Natural History Museum of Utah, discusses his research on the Chinle Formation, (Triassic, ~201 to 230 million years ago) located in southern Utah. The Chinle Formation is characterized by river and stream deposits in a semi-arid environment, and is rich in fossils including vertebrates, plants, and …
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Inside the Race Across Scotland w/ Lucja Leonard
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Foot & Ankle Care in 200+ Mile Races w/ Dr. Jeffrey Hammond
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Bigfoot 200 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies
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Underneath the Rivers: Stewardship of Utah's Sovereign Lands
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21:35Tony Mancuso is the Sovereign Lands Program Manager for the Green and Colorado Rivers at Utah’s Department of Natural Resources (DNR). His management efforts focus on maintaining the health and navigability of waterways under state jurisdiction, including removing invasive species and restoring natural habitats. Tony talks about specific projects l…
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Mobile, Alabama: The Birthplace of US Mardi Gras
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37:56Historic, cultured, and delicious. Wetlands, bayous and the glittering Gulf coast. Today we’re going to Mobile, Alabama, otherwise known as the ‘Paris of the South’. This pioneering port city has a deep cultural history, a buzzing food scene and the oldest Mardi Gras in the States – that’s right, Mobile’s Carnival pre-dates New Orleans’. But, it’s …
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Kaleb Stephens, Ultrarunner, Creator and Coach on Running 200s
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The Anatomy of Endurance w/ Kate Havens
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Badwater 135 Race Recap w/ Peter Noyes
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Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! In this episode, Natalie Utting shares her journey to complet…
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Insights from the Tahoe 200 w/ Joe Corcione
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Sleep Strategies for 200s w/ Borja Martinez Gonzalez
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Mastering Mental Strategies for 200+ Mile Races w/ Carrie Jackson
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Creating Water Resiliency on the Navajo Nation
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23:55Ryan Barton emphasizes the importance of collaboration and negotiation in solving water issues and bringing resilient water systems to the Navajo Nation. As a hydrologist working for the Navajo Nation Department of Water Resources, Ryan has been involved in projects for over a decade including hydrographic surveys, lake capacity studies, and the Sa…
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Tahoe 200 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies
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A Journey Along Victoria's Great Ocean Road and Beyond
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38:41In this episode, we’ve teamed up with the experts at Audley Travel and award-winning Singapore Airlines to bring you all the inspiration and information you need to start planning a romantic road trip around the state of Victoria in Australia. We will be journeying through Victoria, from the Great Ocean Road to the Grampians, taking in the central …
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Cocodona 250: A Deaf Runner's Perspective w/ Alynn Davis
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This podcast concludes a 3-part series on Moab’s creek corridors. The series includes restoration processes on the creeks, stream water gauge science, and this episode, fire fuels mitigation along Mill and Pack creeks flowing from the west side of the La Sal Mountains. Fire risk is high in creek corridors and other overgrown areas. The dense corrid…
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