A new show from Evoke Media that confronts the big issues we’re facing today with curiosity instead of dread. Join host Sabrina Merage Naim as she meets with leaders, experts, and provocateurs to learn how to navigate these messy times with increased empathy and understanding. Sabrina Merage Naim is a founder and investor who’s on a mission to promote tolerance and inclusivity. She founded Evoke Media in 2020 to elevate the stories of global humanity and drive social impact.
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Let’s talk about womanhood the world over. Despite making up over half of the global population, women control less wealth, own less land, hold fewer public offices, and shoulder more domestic burdens. But in every corner of every country there are individuals with enough gumption to break the system and bend the rules. That's why Sabrina Merage Naim and Kassia Binkowski are hosting intimate conversations with individuals who are changing the narrative for women everywhere.
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What Can We Learn About Living from Death? With Whit Missildine
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48:22On the podcast 'This Is Actually Happening,' host Whit Missildine shares stories from people who've undergone life-changing events. After years of making the podcast, he had his own life-changing, near-death experience. In this episode, host Sabrina Merage Naim and Whit discuss what he's learned—most importantly, how we might be able to tear down t…
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Can Cookies Save America? With Evan Weissman
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32:18In a surprise to literally everyone, Evan Weissman somehow made civics…fun. The founder of Warm Cookies of the Revolution—the world’s first civic health club—joins host Sabrina Merage Naim to discuss how he’s made civic engagement enjoyable and why that matters. Together, they discuss what civics actually is, why our local governments get overlooke…
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Entering the Lion's Den with Michael Premo
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39:24What would a Black, progressive artist be doing at the January 6th insurrection? Filmmaker Michael Premo spent years documenting the lives of men involved in far-right movements, including the attack at the capital, for his documentary “Homegrown.” Our globalized world has become, in many ways, more narrow. So, what makes someone leave their cushy …
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Is The American Dream Worth It? With Samhita Mukhopadhyay
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41:56Host Sabrina Merage Naim still believes in the American Dream. Does that make her an asshole? In this episode, she sits down with Samhita Mukhopadhyay, the author of “The Myth of Making It: A Workplace Reckoning.” They discuss what Samhita has learned about America’s workplace culture, the challenges women face when trying to ‘have it all,’ and wha…
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Who Controls the Hearts and Minds in Media? With Vicki Shabo
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39:40You are probably aware that entertainment influences our behavior. Maybe you noticed the surge of pink clothing when the Barbie movie premiered or the rise of chess set sales after the release of The Queen's Gambit series. But did you know there are people who are actively trying to shape the narratives of TV and movies? Host Sabrina Merage Naim is…
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The Endurance of Male Privilege with Paula Stone Williams
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37:47For most of her life, Paula Stone Williams was an influential figure in the evangelical community – serving as an executive and pastor. Then, she transitioned. As essential as it felt to be living as her authentic self, she couldn’t have anticipated the fall from male privilege. Host Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with Paula to discuss the significa…
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What Can We Learn From A Decade of Cannabis Legalization? With Senator John Hickenlooper and 'Cannabis Czar' Andrew Freedman
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47:54Senator John Hickenlooper and ‘Cannabis Czar’ Andrew Freedman led the charge on Colorado’s recreational marijuana legalization ten years ago…reluctantly. Host Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with both of them to reflect on the past decade and learn why they ultimately consider the legalization a success. They discuss why they were skeptical in the fi…
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AI: Math not Magic with Jason Feifer and Meredith Broussard
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43:06Artificial Intelligence is gaining power and freaking people out, but is there a reason to panic? Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with Jason Feifer, the Editor-in-Chief of Entrepreneur magazine and history buff to discuss what we can learn from cultural panics of the past. She also speaks with Meredith Broussard, AI expert and the research director a…
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Romance Across the Divide with Dr. Katherine Hertlein
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38:42Modern relationships are challenging. Love has never been easy, but the introduction of dating apps and the political polarization we face have made it harder to meet someone and stay with them. Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with Dr. Katherine Hertlein, a psychologist, author, and Associate Dean for Faculty Affairs and Professional Development at B…
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A Fine Mess presents... The Rise of Satire with Samantha Bee
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43:13Hi friends! It's Sabrina, and I'm here to share a special episode of my new podcast A Fine Mess, recently named a “must listen” by The Guardian and Apple Podcasts. In this episode, I interview legendary Daily Show correspondent and Full Frontal host, Samantha Bee. We’re faced with a 24-hour news cycle, and bad news seems unending. So, many of us tu…
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Leveling the Playing Field with Jill Ellis
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38:56Women's sports are often overlooked and cast aside, leaving the spotlight on men. Lately, however, the viewership and ticket sales for women's sports have increased. Will women's sports soon be as popular as men's? Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with Jill Ellis to discuss. Ellis is the President of The San Diego Wave Fútbol Club. She's also the winn…
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We’re faced with a 24-hour news cycle, and bad news seems unending. So, many of us turn to satirical news and memes to strike a balance and find some joy. But is there a darkside to the light side? Host Sabrina Merage Naim sits down with Samantha Bee, the legendary Daily Show correspondent and Full Frontal host. They discuss the appeal and implicat…
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Hi Breaking Glass friends! It's Sabrina. I want to tell you about my new show A Fine Mess. If you like Breaking Glass, you'll love A Fine Mess, where we're broadening the mission of digging deeper into important and timely topics in order to challenge our own pre-conceived notions. After you hear A Fine Mess' trailer, be sure to click this link to …
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How to Have Challenging Conversations with Matt Abrahams
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36:01In order to engage with the most pressing issues of today, we need to go back to basics and master communication. Host Sabrina Merage Naim interviews Matt Abrahams, a communications expert who teaches at Stanford University and has published multiple books, including, "Think Faster, Talk Smarter." Together, they reveal the techniques necessary to h…
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A new show from Evoke Media that confronts the big issues we’re facing today with curiosity instead of dread. Join host Sabrina Merage Naim as she meets with leaders, experts, and provocateurs to learn how to navigate these messy times with increased empathy and understanding. Sabrina Merage Naim is a founder and investor who’s on a mission to prom…
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'Tis the Season for Contentious Conversations
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26:18Nothing like a holiday to turn up the heat on hard conversations. In this Season 2 Finale, Kassia and Sabrina reflect on conversations they've had with family and friends who don't necessarily agree with their points of view, including: Sabrina's history of heated arguments with her uncle and how they finally managed to have a calm conversation abo…
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We’ve never met a woman without a complex relationship to her own hair. Shorter, longer, curlier, straighter, lighter, darker, up, down. For many women—especially Black women—hair can be a complicated thing. Founder of Parting the Roots, Simone Wright is working to educate people and organizations on the history, politics, and significance of Black…
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Why Girls Run the World but Men Run for Office
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51:35130 years. That's how long it will take to achieve gender equity at the highest levels of global politics. Around the world, women are still less likely to be encouraged to run for public office at every level - this starts with what we tell young girls about what is possible and ultimately influences women's lack of confidence to step into the rac…
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Regretting Motherhood and Choosing Not to Have Children
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30:56Contrary to what society would like us to believe, not every woman wants to be a mother. Some women regret the choice altogether. Orna Donath was only 16 years old when knew with certainty that she never wanted to be a mother. In the decades that followed she never waivered in that decision. Today, Orna is a sociologist and author in Tel Aviv, Isra…
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Rituals, community-care, and women's mental health
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41:03Every year, one in five women in the United States struggles with mental health. Income disparities, caregiving responsibilities, higher rates of poverty and violence are just a few of the risk factors that leave women especially susceptible to chronic stress. Dr. Beth Ricanati is no stranger to burnout. She was the mother of three children and a p…
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In honor of Sexual Health Month and our recent conversation with Zoe Mendelson, Sabrina and Kassia are opening up - like really, intimately opening up - about sexual health. We're walking through Zoe’s book, Pussypedia, discussing some of its more shocking takeaways, and our relationships with our mothers who were often our own source of education …
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Pussies, patriarchy, and access to sex education
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40:54When Zoe Mendelson first googled squirting, she had no idea the rabbit hole of sexual education she was about to go down. The internet was riddled with inconsistent information and even experts disagreed on some of the simpler questions she was curious about. An information designer by training, Zoe became passionate about curating a comprehensive …
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Data storytelling, crowdmapping, and gender-based violence
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48:01Around the world, 1 in 3 women experiences physical or sexual violence in their lifetime. In India, where a woman is raped every fifteen minutes, the outlook is especially dire. ElsaMarie D'Silva walked away from a twenty-year career in aviation to launch SafeCity - the world's foremost crowdmapping platform for gender-based violence. An entreprene…
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Homosexuality, Christianity, and gender discrimination in religion
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49:13Did you know the word “homosexual” didn’t appear in the Bible until 1946? Neither did we. And neither did Kathy Baldock until a gay friend said, “Even God doesn’t love me,” and Kathy, a heterosexual, practicing Christian, went looking for answers. Today, Kathy is an author (Walking The Bridgeless Canyon), LGBTQ advocate, international speaker and e…
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Intersectional feminism, capitalism, and feminist foreign policy
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41:02Women account for less than 10% of leadership positions in governments around the world. At this rate, we will not achieve gender equality in these highest positions of power for 130 years. Marissa Conway is not surprised. Neither intimidated nor impressed by the foreign policy sector dominated by older, white men, Marissa has had a front row seat …
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History, racism, and erasing Black mothers
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47:15Despite the influence of civil rights icons Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin, their mother's stories were all but erased from history. That is until Dr. Anna Malaika-Tubbs came along. While pregnant with her first child, Dr. Mailka-Tubbs wrote the award-winning book The Three Mothers: How the mothers of Martin Luther King, Jr.,…
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In the wake of Roe: Hope in Ireland's example
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31:07Abortion saves lives. Abortion is healthcare. Abortion should never have been politicized. But it was. And in the wake of Roe v. Wade being overturned, when we're mostly full of anger and sorrow, we really need glimmers of hope. One such spark can be found in a place one might expect fervent opposition to abortion: Ireland. In this rerelease of one…
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Political influence, double standards, and silencing women
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1:03:29Many double standards exist for women and men, but perhaps none as ubiquitously as how they use their voice. A loud little girl is called bossy, a bold assertive woman is called a bitch. The same leadership qualities that we celebrate in men we often silence in women and Phumzile van Damme has experienced this at every turn of her career. Elected t…
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Feminist rage and the power of women's anger
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50:10Ever been called an angry feminist? Us too. Soraya Chemaly is a writer, speaker, and activist who studies the many reasons women have to be angry, and why they're called bitches, hot-headed, crazy feminists when they are. She is an award-winning activist, the best-selling author of Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger, and director and co-f…
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What we must do now to save reproductive freedom
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33:24We’re releasing a bonus episode from 1972! Just kidding. We’re releasing a bonus episode from 2022 about what to do now that the United States is about to revoke the rights of millions of people with uteruses. Sabrina reaches back out to human rights attorney and previous guest, Julie Kay to talk about: • What this legal ruling might mean for other…
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Poetry, misogyny, and women's unpaid labor
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42:24It's not often that a poet's first paid piece of writing jumps to the top of the New York Times bestseller lists. Kate Baer's did. Her first book, What Kind of Woman was published in 2020 and followed shortly by a book of erasure poetry, I Hope This Finds You Well (2021). Both tackle the underlying treatment of women and mothers in modern society. …
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In a country that criminalizes homosexuality, Kaz is an openly queer individual. Bisexual, lesbians, and transgender persons are not recognized by the Kenyan constitution and yet she lives openly and authentically while encouraging others to do the same. Kaz started her career as a singer and performer. In 2006, she won the Kora Award for The Most …
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Pregnancy, miscarriage, and choosing not to stay silent
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30:04Five kids between the two of them, Sabrina and Kassia know a thing or two about pregnancy. From infertility to miscarriage, morning sickness to stretch marks these ladies could write a real epic. That's why they're pulling back the curtains - not as experts on any one of these issues, but as mothers and friends who want to dispel some of the ways s…
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Comprehensive sex education is not standardized in schools across Arab countries and more than 40% of pregnancies are unintended. Since moving from Chicago to Dubai in 2014, Dr. Salem has defied tradition and delivered sex education to women through her OB-GYN clinic as well as through her Instagram account. With more than 20k followers, she answer…
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Reproductive Rights, Overturning Roe, and Sesame Street
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58:56Reproductive freedom is in grave danger across the United States. Experts predict that it is not a question of if Roe will be overturned this year, but rather when. Kathryn Kolbert is one of the most influential reproductive rights attorneys in the country. Julie Kay is a passionate human rights attorney who came up under the mentorship of Kitty at…
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Season two is coming soon and this is our little love letter to those loyal listeners who are waiting oh so patiently. It's been a few months since our 43rd episode dropped to wrap up Season 1. And since then, we've been chasing babies, growing businesses, and planning how to knock your socks off in our second season. A few of the to dos on our lis…
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Season One Finale with Sabrina and Kassia
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36:12Rules were bent. Glass was broken. Minds were expanded. Join Sabrina and Kassia in reflecting on the audacious, gutsy guests whose stories, advice, and badassery comprised season one. The co-hosts discuss the conversations that left a mark and opened their eyes to the vast array of experiences women are facing around the world. Sabrina reveals the …
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Dr. Faith Mwangi-Powell grew up in rural Kenya with two parents who were deeply committed to her education. The daughter of a village chief, it wasn’t until she completed her PhD and was deep into her career in public health and population studies that she realized child marriage had been happening all around her. Today, Dr. Faith is the CEO of Gir…
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Erin Jorgensen is an artist, musician, and a somewhat accidental abortion activist. Having grown up in a Mormon family in rural Washington, Erin eventually turned her back on the church and moved to the coast to pursue a career in music. A struggling artist, she resorted to sex work to make ends meet. After four abortions, Erin's roommate and dear …
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Matthew Nouriel is a British Iranian who from a young age, was attracted to all the things little boys in traditional homes should never be attracted to - Barbies, dresses, make up. Growing up between the UK and Los Angeles, Matthew diverged from the path that their family laid out for them and found a home among the LGBTQ+ community of West Hollyw…
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Social pressure, regret, and choosing not to mother
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31:16At the young age of 16, Orna Donath knew with certainty that she would never be a mother. To Orna, this self-realization was not as extraordinary as society would want her to believe. To her, it was mundane. Just as common as choosing to become a mother. In the decades that followed she became a sociologist and author, producing thought-provoking r…
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Secrecy, duality, and generational trauma
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42:45Esther Amini is a writer, artist, and psychotherapist whose family emigrated from Mashad, Iran to New York City before she was born. Despite their newfound freedom, the life of secrecy and duplicity that they had known in Iran resulted in generations of trauma. Esther has spent a lifetime navigating these two conflicting realities - that of a conse…
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Jackson Katz is founder & president of MVP Strategies and an outspoken expert on why gender violence is a man's issue. Jackson grew up in a dysfunctional family and in college found himself studying the intersectionality of race, gender, and discrimination. Watching strong female classmates survive rape and campaign for campus safety, Jackson grew …
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Extreme poverty, modern slavery, and a monk
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41:47Nasreen Sheikh was born into a rural village in Nepal to a family struggling to survive. The desperation of her upbringing drove her to work in a sweatshop as a young child where she lived and worked in a 10x10 foot room alongside 5 other people. After escaping child labor, she founded Women’s Local Handicraft to disrupt the manufacturing supply ch…
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Do you ever find yourself wondering who the personalities are behind these voices on Breaking Glass? This one's for you. Today we're pulling back the curtain and co-hosts Sabrina and Kassia are getting personal. We're rambling about the complexity of podcasting, the mess of motherhood, and how in the world we ended up in partnership with one anothe…
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Quotas, democracy, and women in leadership
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52:40Sandra Pepera is a Ghanaian woman raised in Britain by parents who were deeply committed to girls' education. No stranger to the experience of being a minority in the room, Sandra is a campaigner at heart and has dedicated her life to equity and justice work. Today, she is a renowned an expert in international development, democracy, and gender equ…
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Chrissy Powers was 13 years-old when her father brought home a purity ring and sat her down to talk about the importance of waiting until marriage. Purity culture was the norm in her Evangelical Church community but the burden of shame and guilt that was placed on her as a young girl led to years of eating disorders and anxiety. Now, as a licensed …
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American values, childcare, and an unlikely feminist
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1:13:52In this special Father's Day episode we sit down with Sabrina's father, David Merage. A successful businessman, immigrant, and philanthropist, David reflects on his roots in a patriarchal society and the strong women whom he looked up to as a child. We discuss his duality as an Iranian Jew living in America, a successful entrepreneur whose family h…
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Social media, politics, and gendered disinformation
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33:58Kristina Wilfore and Lucina Di Meco are global experts and passionate advocates for women’s digital rights. With more than 800 million people using the internet as a primary source of information, these ladies are critically concerned about the number of intentional and fraudulent attacks against female politicians and journalists online. The rise …
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Professional volleyball, pregnancy, and maternity leave
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39:19Carli Lloyd was headed into her tenth season of professional volleyball when she found out she and her long-term partner were pregnant. This deeply personal news came at a high professional cost. Carli and her partner didn’t even get a chance to process this news personally before it was thrust into the public view and her contract was swiftly canc…
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