This Podcast of Courier Conversations will be a conversation of topics with a variety of guests that concern, inspire and inform Christians about current events Worldwide. We hope you'll find our stories informing and encouraging in your daily walk with Christ.
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From the creators of the #1 documentary SCORE comes this award-winning podcast inviting you into the world of today's most beloved film composers and brilliant musical storytellers.
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Navigating parenting challenges with trust and an open heart. Tune in for our parenting journeys through the lens of developmental science and stay for interviews with our amazing guests. Find guest bios, video clips and transcripts as well as our webinars and course here Music by ManLikeChez
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Faith, Flag, and Freedom: Navigating Christian Patriotism
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22:05Send us a text As Independence Day approaches, Christians face the perennial question: How should we navigate the relationship between our faith and our national identity? In this thought-provoking conversation, we explore the biblical foundations for a Christian's responsibility toward the state, beginning with the nuanced understanding of Romans …
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Send us a text The written word has shaped Christian formation since the church began, and in this revealing conversation, Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns explore how reading remains essential for spiritual growth today. "Of making many books there is no end," wrote Solomon in Ecclesiastes – not as a criticism of reading itself, but as a caution ag…
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Oscar and Grammy-winning songwriter and composer Finneas O’Connell breaks down his journey into film composing and working with Oscar winning director Alfonso Cuarón on the hit miniseries DISCLAIMER. Finneas dives into his work with Billie Eilish and how it led to meeting Cuarón, the frightening first steps and self doubt of getting started (VENGEA…
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Women Pastors: A Debate on Scripture's Authority
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22:29Send us a text A thought-provoking examination of biblical authority versus cultural accommodation unfolds as we dive into the New Yorker's recent mini-documentary questioning whether the Southern Baptist Convention can survive without women pastors. We analyze how the video juxtaposes compassionate female leadership against supposedly rigid tradit…
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The Pope's Chair: An Evangelical Perspective
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22:25Send us a text The selection of Pope Leo XIV has captured global attention, prompting three Southern Baptist leaders to examine what this means for evangelicals in this thoughtful episode of Courier Conversations. Jeff Robinson hosts Dr. Travis Kearns and Dr. Walter Johnson for a candid discussion about the theological implications of papal authori…
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Oscar-nominated experimental band/composing trio Son Lux joins Score after their breakout success on EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE, and as their latest film, Marvel’s THUNDERBOLTS*, releases in theaters. How the solo project from Ryan Lott led to working as a trio with Rafiq Bhatia, Ian Chang — incorporating unique electronic instrumentation wi…
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Unpacking Systematic Theology/Why Theology Matters (Part Two)
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23:23Send us a text Tired of hearing that theology is only for scholars or that doctrine divides people? This illuminating conversation with Dr. Walter Johnson, retired dean of Christian Studies at North Greenville University, makes a compelling case for why theological understanding matters deeply for every believer. Dr. Johnson brilliantly distinguish…
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Unpacking Systematic Theology in Local Churches (Part One)
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22:18Send us a text Doctrinal avoidance has become a disturbing trend in modern churches, exemplified by an Arizona pastor who proudly declared: "I don't do doctrine or theology, it's too divisive. I just love Jesus and love other people." This episode tackles this theological aversion head-on with Dr. Walter Johnson, retired dean of Christian Studies a…
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Send us a text The most devastating wildfires in upstate South Carolina history have ravaged more than 13,500 acres, raising profound questions about divine purpose amid suffering. Where exactly is God when natural disasters strike? Why does a good and all-powerful Creator allow earthquakes, hurricanes, and wildfires to devastate communities? Host …
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Scottish-born composer Paul Leonard-Morgan (Last Breath, Cyberpunk 2077, Tales from the Loop, Limitless) is a master of different mediums — from film/television to video games, concerts and working with recording artists like bands Belle & Sebastian and Snow Patrol, among many others. His latest, survival-thriller Last Breath starring Woody Harrels…
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Made in His Image: Exploring Biblical Gender
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22:10Send us a text A Supreme Court nominee unable to define "woman" and a President needing to officially declare only two genders exist – how did we arrive at this cultural moment where biological reality became controversial? Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns tackle the increasingly confused topic of gender through a biblical lens, providing much-neede…
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Small Doesn’t Equal Unhealthy: Rethinking Church Size
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21:59Send us a text Are big churches necessarily healthy? In our latest episode, we explore the complex relationship between church size and spiritual vitality, challenging the widely-held belief that larger congregations automatically reflect greater health. Join hosts Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns as they engage in thought-provoking discussions abou…
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At 34, UK-based artist and composer Daniel Blumberg is the youngest person nominated for this year’s Best Score at the Oscars. His work on The Brutalist, nominated for 10 Academy Awards, is a continuation and evolution of Brady Corbet’s directorial talent — a longtime friend and collaborator. Daniel talks us through his formative experience at Cafe…
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Examining DEI Through a Biblical Lens: Unity, Division, and Scriptural Alignment
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22:32Send us a text Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) are buzzwords that dominate contemporary discourse, yet their implications and origins often remain unexplored. Join us as we host Travis Kearns, trustee at the Baptist Courier, to shed light on DEI through a biblical perspective. Challenging the conventional wisdom of DEI's Marxist roots, we ex…
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Send us a text Ever wonder why certain books of the Bible, like Leviticus and Numbers, seem daunting and irrelevant? Join me, Jeff Robinson, as I unravel this mystery through the lens of Luke 24, exploring how Jesus' resurrection provides a fresh perspective on these challenging texts. This episode promises to illuminate the significance of Christ'…
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Oscar-winning filmmaker (The Last Repair Shop) and Emmy-winning composer Kris Bowers details a series of life experiences that propelled him to a groundbreaking score on his first animated film, The Wild Robot. How his parents’ nudge into music led to him developing a “life plan” he still employs today. Why his jazz origins are so useful in the way…
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Balancing Faith and Fandom: Exploring Sports as Gifts and Idols
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23:21Send us a text What happens when the thrill of a last-minute touchdown crosses paths with the teachings of faith? Join us in an enlightening discussion featuring Brian Payne, lead pastor of Lakeview Baptist Church and former University of Alabama football player. Together with Travis Kearns and me, Jeff Robinson, we reflect on Alabama, Clemson, and…
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Robert Eggers & Robin Carolan (Nosferatu, The Northman)
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1:06:26“Music that will bring Beethoven to his knees”We couldn’t pass up the chance to record with BOTH visionary director Robert Eggers and composer Robin Carolan, whose period-horror NOSFERATU released on Christmas Day. (Robert confirms for the record it IS — sort of — a Christmas movie.) This interview done remotely, with Robert and Robin together in t…
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Volker Bertelmann (Conclave, All Quiet On the Western Front)
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1:37:08Oscar-winning composer Volker Bertelmann (CONCLAVE, ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT) explains his unique approach to creating analog textures, themes, and layered complexity. How a church piano led him to a breakout hip hop album in Germany, and then into his own musical experimentation with “prepared piano” — including albums and live performances …
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Benjamin Wallfisch (Twisters, Alien: Romulus)
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1:22:02Score: The Podcast returns for a sixth season with in-person interviews filmed in 4K, and new original footage inside composers’ studios. Presented by Vienna Symphonic Library In this season premiere episode, Benjamin Wallfisch breaks down his explosive blockbuster summer with TWISTERS and ALIEN: ROMULUS becoming sensations. The inside scoop on whe…
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The Complex Path to Restoring Fallen Pastors: Accountability, Grace, and Redemption
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24:25Send us a text What happens when a pastor experiences moral failure? Can redemption pave the way for a return to leadership, or is the path to restoration much more complex? Join us as we, along with co-host Travis Kearns, tackle these pressing questions, exploring the delicate balance between accountability and grace within church leadership. Draw…
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The Enduring Impact of Reformation Day on Modern Faith and Theology
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26:41Send us a text Explore the transformative legacy of Reformation Day with us and our distinguished guest, Dr. Walter Johnson, a seasoned expert in church history and theology. Discover how the monumental events sparked by Martin Luther's 95 Theses in 1517 continue to shape modern faith and emphasize the importance of returning to biblical authority.…
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#13 | Season Finale: Rob Simonsen aces the box office
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52:14In Score’s season 5 finale, composer Rob Simonsen talks about having the #1 and #2 films in the world on the same weekend (DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE; IT ENDS WITH US), and how one film led to the other being done inside of one month — the biggest time crunch he’s ever had. Plus, what is was like working with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, poking fun at…
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Navigating the Abortion Debate from a Christian Perspective
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22:44Send us a text Is the current abortion debate in America a reflection of the sexual revolution's consequences? Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns invite you to explore this provocative question as they dive into the ethical and political complexities of abortion from a Christian perspective. Sparking from William McGurn's eye-opening editorial in the …
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The Power of Christian Friendships in Ministry
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20:56Send us a text What if a strong friendship rooted in faith could transform your ministry? Join us on Career Conversations Now as we reveal the vibrant new format with co-hosts Jeff Robinson and Travis Kerns. Celebrating a 25-year friendship that began at Southern Seminary, we kick things off with some friendly football rivalry—Travis, a die-hard Cl…
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#12 | Andrea Datzman on scoring a film about emotion
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56:57Breakout composer Andrea Datzman (INSIDE OUT 2) talks about her initial rejection from film scoring industry, and what led her to persevere. How her struggle with Lyme disease threatened to upend her initial breakthrough with Michael Giacchino on INSIDE OUT, and led to a surprising new revelation about her own brain and neuropsychology. She also di…
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Bonus | Andrew Gordon Macpherson scores real drama of scripted pro-wrestling
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41:12In this bonus interview episode, Andrew Gordon Macpherson talks about his music and TV editing skills leading to his career scoring video games and television documentaries, including the hit Vice series DARK SIDE OF THE RING, and WHO KILLED WCW?, produced by Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson. How the world of professional wrestling drama created a canvas …
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#11 | Andrew Lockington on building momentum
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1:06:10Composer Andrew Lockington (ATLAS, MAYOR OF KINGSTOWN) joins SCORE to talk about Toronto, working with and under the tutelage of fellow Canadian Mychael Danna after wanting to start a rock band, and how his interest in orchestration led to his composing breakthroughs. Plus, working with Jennifer Lopez, creating “suites” of music, what makes temps s…
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Send us a text Moving forward, Travis Kerns will join Jeff Robinson to discuss the issues each month. In this inaugural edition , they discuss the work of the SBC’s cooperation committee and the Law Amendment. https://baptistcourier.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/By Jeff Robinson / Travis Kerns
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#10 | Christophe Beck might be listening to your podcast
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59:04We catch up with composer extraordinaire Christophe Beck (UNFROSTED, ROAD HOUSE) for the first time in six years! Christophe shares how early piano lessons led to dreams of making his own album (now in the works). Plus, how years leading a composer team on major films refreshed his love of teaching and sharing, his creative rapport with director Do…
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Educating a generation at NGU: A conversation with Walter Johnson.
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22:46Send us a text Walter Johnson, founding Dean of the College of Christian Studies, reflects on North Greenville’s remarkable transition from a struggling two-year college to a thriving four-year university made during his 32-year tenure. https://baptistcourier.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/…
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Episode 35: When The Kids Stopped Playing: Joe and Olga with Dr. Peter Gray
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52:30Our children and teenagers are more anxious and depressed than ever. Whilst the temptation is to blame the pandemic or the use of mobile phones, gaming and social media, what do the children themselves have to say about what is stressing them out? In this interview Dr. Peter Gray shares what his research into the root causes of the unfolding mental…
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#9 | Chris Benstead is a gentleman of all trades
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44:06Composer Chris Benstead talks about being Guy Ritchies’ musical maestro on multiple projects, including THE GENTLEMEN on Netflix and THE MINISTRY OF UNGENTLEMANLY WARFARE. How his musical education led him into music mixing and eventually working in the “sound” departments on major projects, before his work with Patrick Doyle, Steven Price, Alan Me…
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Episode 34: The Self-Driven Child: Joe and Olga with Dr. William Stixrud
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1:04:01Our children and teenagers are often at least as busy, stressed and sleep-deprived as adults. Amidst an unprecedented youth mental health crisis, our education systems remain divorced from everything science knows about learning and wellbeing. If a book ever was a way out, “The Self-Driven Child” is certainly this, and the conversation with one of …
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YouTuber Rudy Mancuso has been following SCORE for years, as a musician and composer in his own right. He joins Kenny Holmes and Matt Schrader to discuss his breakout hit film from SxSW ‘MÚSICA’ out now on Prime Video — a semi-autobiographic film, years in the making, that pushes musical possibilities to refreshingly brilliant musical storytelling.…
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Send us a text Courier President Jeff Robinson and publisher Evan Knies discuss Courier Publishing, the new 1821 book line, and their love for books in general. https://baptistcourier.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/By Jeff Robinson and Todd Deaton / Evan Knies
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Episode 33: No More Monkeys: Joe and Olga with Rudi Gesch
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40:30What do you do if your toddler’s special talent is jumping on and off furniture? Our guest Rudi Gesch put his own spin on the old nursery rhyme in “No More Monkeys,” a book that feels like a reassuring hug for parents who are horrified by their kids’ propensity for risky play. His science is solid too, as he partnered with an eminent evolutionary p…
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Episode 32: Nourished: Joe and Olga with Deborah MacNamara
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49:42All eating is emotional eating according to Dr. Deborah MacNamara, the author of Nourished, a book that is a gift to any parent who has felt baffled and frustrated when feeding their child (which is most of us!). Why teaching our kids about nutrition can backfire? Why do we eat when we are not hungry and often don’t eat when we are? What did Maslow…
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Composer Laura Karpman joins Score to talk about her work on the Oscar-nominated score for AMERICAN FICTION, breaking down how jazz informed a story rich in satire and wit to give it a unique musical edge and voice intertwined with characters. Then, she discusses her path from likely music professor into at one point being one of the only women wor…
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Episode 31: KG Hypnobirthing: Joe and Olga with Katharine Graves
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49:44Katharine Graves has helped thousands of parents unlock the wonder of natural birth through unlearning harmful myths about labour, reclaiming agency in their antenatal journey and learning to understand and trust their bodies and instincts. What makes KG Hypnobirthing different from other courses? Why the idea of a “due date” is misguided? What are…
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Send us a text Courier President Jeff Robinson interviews Hunter Baker about his new work at North Greenville University. https://baptistcourier.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/By Jeff Robinson and Todd Deaton / Jeff Robinson
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#6 | David Fleming says it's all about fun
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1:04:55Composer David Fleming (The Last of Us, Blue Planet II) talks about his inventive score for Prime Video’s new Mr. & Mrs. Smith, working with Donald Glover, coming up through the Remote Control composer system with Atli Orvarsson, Steve Jablonsky and Hans Zimmer, and why the new Jim Henson documentary will melt everyone’s hearts. Interview by Kenny …
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Episode 30: Alternative Education Across the World: Anna Hobbs with Joe and Olga
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38:43If a school your kids and their friends need doesn’t exist, you can always create one! This is exactly what Anna Hobbs did. Listen to her incredible story of founding a democratic school that became a breath of fresh air for her students and their families, as well as her journey from being a homeschooled child to homeschooling her three kids. (Did…
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#5 | Carlos Rafael Rivera has a cookie for ya
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1:07:43The Miami-based Carlos Rafael Rivera with two series releasing now (Griselda, Monsieur Spade) joins to talk about his massive breakout with The Queen’s Gambit, followed by Hacks and Lessons in Chemistry. Why Sofia Vergara's dramatic turn as a drug kingpin in Miami deserved an operative approach. How he manages to maintain his Miami location for an …
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Send us a text Don Cox talks with the Courier’s president about his new book on how churches can love their pastors well. Dr. Cox has been pastor of Concord BC in Anderson, SC, for the past 20 years and previously served as professor of evangelism at Southern Seminary. https://baptistcourier.com https://bobslone.com/home/podcast-production/…
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Episode 29: All of Us Children: Joe & Olga with Daniel Maté
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47:29As the norms that used to structure relationships between ageing parents and grown-up children loosen, we may find ourselves with more agency to define ours. For some, it means a fresh start, a potential for a more meaningful relationship. How can we move through triggers and old wounds, to meet again? What roles do anger and shame play? What does …
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#4 | Richard Reed Parry is always looking for his mojo
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45:09One of the original members of the indie band Arcade Fire, Richard Reed Parry (THE IRON CLAW, EILEEN) discusses his jump into film scoring, the importance of finding “mojo” and “vibe,” and how the wrestling biopic The Iron Claw nearly stumped him musically — until he unlocked the rich, layered sound that carries the film. How Spike Jonze’s film “He…
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#3 | Geoff Zanelli on making Adam Sandler laugh
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1:06:08Geoff Zanelli makes his long-awaited Score debut after one of Netflix’s most watched animated films of all-time, the Adam Sandler-produced LEO. In this episode, Kenny and Robert discuss the long-awaited arrival of MAESTRO, the Leonard Bernstein biopic, which we discussed on the 2nd episode of SCORE: THE PODCAST back when it was to be directed by Sp…
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Episode 28: Why Our Tears Matter: Joe and Olga with Rev. Benjamin Perry
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43:54If I was pressed to choose the most helpful episode of The Caring Instinct podcast, I would pick this conversation with Benjamin Perry, a queer minister and author of Cry, Baby: Why Our Tears Matter. Benjamin is a passionate advocate for crying, possibly the most misunderstood physiological process in our bodies (and the one we sometimes think we a…
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#2 | Martin Phipps recorded on Napoleon's piano
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37:22Composer of the new historical epic NAPOLEON Martin Phipps joins Score for the first time! How he located a piano once owned by Napoleon himself for the score. Plus, his path to film and television music, his work on Peaky Blinders, Black Mirror and The Crown, and establishing trust with the great Ridley Scott. How Martin overcame his early doubts …
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