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Energy vs Climate: How climate is changing our energy systems
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Energy vs Climate is a live, interactive webinar and podcast where energy experts David Keith, Sara Hastings-Simon and Ed Whittingham break down the trade-offs and hard truths of the energy transition in Alberta, Canada, and beyond. Guests include scientists, policy experts, and industry leaders discussing the forces reshaping our energy future—from breakthrough renewable technologies to the real-world impact of climate change. ___ www.energyvsclimate.com Twitter/X | Instagram | Bluesky | Yo ...
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The Great Energy Showdown: Solar Takes All?
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56:02Sara's back for the launch of Season 7 of Energy vs Climate! For our first episode, David, Sara, and Ed discuss whether solar will be the big energy winner. Has solar energy already won? What’s driving its rapid ascent? And what does it mean for energy production and policy here in Canada? Show notes & references available on episode page. About Yo…
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BONUS: Author Don Gillmor on his latest book "On Oil" | Climate Book Reviews
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44:15We're sharing another episode of Ed’s podcast Climate Book Reviews with acclaimed Canadian author Don Gillmor on his latest non-fiction work, On Oil. Ed is joined by his regular co-host Dr. Roger Thompson, Director of Writing Programs and Professor at Arizona State University. This episode dives into the sharply drawn and darkly funny world of On O…
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BONUS | Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill vs Climate: Hot Take with BlueGreen Alliance’s Jason Walsh
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33:40Ed chats with Jason Walsh, Executive Director of the BlueGreen Alliance (BGA). Jason and his organization recently made headlines for opposing the so-called One Big Beautiful Bill Act—President Trump's sweeping piece of legislation passed this summer that rolls back many of the clean energy tax credits introduced by the Inflation Reduction Act. Whi…
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BONUS: Climate Book Reviews with author Ashley Shelby on Honeymoons in Temporary Locations
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46:00In this latest episode of Ed’s occasional podcast Climate Book Reviews, we dive into the wildly imaginative and disturbingly plausible world of Ashley Shelby’s acclaimed story collection, Honeymoons in Temporary Locations. Recently named one of Fresh Energy’s Favorite Climate Books of 2025 and shortlisted for the Janet Heidinger Kafka Prize, Shelby…
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From Doom to Hope: Katharine Hayhoe on Bridging the Climate Gap
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1:01:56David & Ed chat with renowned scientist, author and Canadian, Dr. Katharine Hayhoe who argues that hope—not doom—is what drives action. Dr. Hayhoe is one of the world’s most prominent climate communicators and known for crossing political, religious, and cultural lines to connect with audiences that most climate advocates can’t or won't reach. It's…
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Matthew Yglesias: Foreign Aid, Climate Politics, and Plastic Straws
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1:02:02For the last episode of Season 4, Rose and Katie are joined by Matthew Yglesias, journalist and author of the Substack, Slow Boring. They cover everything from the value and political future of US foreign assistance, to climate politics and the new “abundance” movement, and how we navigate a rapidly changing media ecosystem.…
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BONUS: Canada’s Carbon Edge - How We Can Lead in Carbon Removal with Na'im Merchant & Grégoire Baillargeon
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34:35LIVE from the Montreal's Climate Solutions Prize Festival 2025 Na'im Merchant, Executive Director of Carbon Removal Canada and the host of The Carbon Curve podcast, and Grégoire Baillargeon, President of BMO Quebec and Vice Chair of BMO Capital Markets join Ed Whittingham for a panel discussion exploring how Canada can become a global leader in car…
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Energy Transition in Africa & its Climate Dilemma with Dr. Rose Mutiso
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50:05David & Ed chat with Dr. Rose Mutiso about the tension between energy, climate, and economic development in Africa and the global south. They touch on many topics to do with sub-Saharan Africa, including energy production & consumption, electricity and power grids, and the vast economic inequity that still exists between the global north & south. A…
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Has the World Surrendered to Climate Breakdown? Andreas Malm, author of How to Blow Up a Pipeline
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55:25Ed and David chat with special guest Andreas Malm, author of How the World Surrendered to Climate Breakdown and How to Blow Up a Pipeline: Learning to Fight in a World on Fire. They discuss Malm’s critiques of climate inaction—how liberal democracies, fossil capital, and the Global North have collectively abandoned meaningful efforts to stop climat…
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BONUS: Upton Sinclair's Oil! - Climate Book Reviews Podcast with Michael Tondre
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47:09Ed Whittingham & Roger Thompson discuss Upton Sinclair's classic novel - Oil! We're sharing another episode of Ed's occasional podcast, Climate Book Reviews, this time discussing the book that was the inspiration for the critically acclaimed 2007 movie, There Will Be Blood, starring Daniel Day-Lewis. Ed and co-host Dr. Roger Thompson (Associate Dea…
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Power Hungry: Can Our Grids Evolve Fast Enough for AI's Appetite? | with Amy Myers Jaffe
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51:10Energy expert Amy Myers Jaffe returns to EvC to chat with Ed about Energy and Artificial Intelligence. Nearly every aspect of the economy seems to be impacted by the stunningly rapid development of AI. Energy is no exception. Ed and Amy have a wide-ranging discussion that covers a lot of ground and touches on several hot topics, including: How AI i…
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BONUS - Carbon Removal Day Panel: Lucy Hargreaves, Daniel Kelter, Jorden Dye
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47:21There’s something in Carbon Removal for everyone — are we building enduring relationships to advance the sector? A bonus EvC episode - on February 27, 2025, EvC co-host Ed Whittingham hosted a panel discussion at Carbon Removal Canada's Carbon Removal Day in Ottawa. They cover a number of topics including the changing political headwinds in the US,…
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Ken Opalo: Why Growth Must Be at the Center of Africa’s Future
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39:48Ken Opalo, associate professor at Georgetown University and author of An Africanist Perspective, joins the show to discuss what’s really behind chronic underinvestment in Africa’s power sector, what US policymakers are missing, and what gives him hope for the future of African development.
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The Rise of Conspiratorial Environmentalism with Dr. Holly Jean Buck
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58:12David & Ed chat with Dr. Holly Buck about Conspiratorial-Environmentalism’s connection to climate & geoengineering; the anti-vax movement; and what it tells us about mainstream environmentalism & climate politics. (03:08) Skip Intro (09:12) David's personal experience with Conspiratorial-Environmentalism (27:15) Social Media and monetization (38:58…
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Scrubbing the Sky - Episode 4 - Skeptics vs Believers: Is Direct Air Capture Hope or Hype?
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27:51Host Ed Whittingham closes out Season 1 by examining the case against Direct Air Capture by one its harshest critics, Al Gore, followed by the counterarguments of supporters. Will DAC live up to its hype and potential to help cool a warming planet? Guests include: Greg Nemet, professor at the University of Wisconsin Klaus Lackner, professor at Ariz…
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Katie and Rose on the Future of Foreign Aid
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1:03:09Rose and Katie unpack the fallout from the Trump administration’s dismantling of USAID and what it means for global energy investment and energy access. Drawing on their experience in US government, they explore the ripple effects of these cuts, the impact on local and international partners, and the broader shifts in development assistance. They a…
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Scrubbing the Sky - Episode 3 - The Carbon Gold Rush: Tech's Next Frontier
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26:44Host Ed Whittingham delves into the early days of another pioneering Direct Air Capture (DAC) company, Switzerland’s Climeworks, and its innovative modular approach to deploying its technology. Ed also looks into the developing synergy between the tech sector and carbon removal. Guests include: Jan Wurzbacher, co-founder of Climeworks Lucy Hargreav…
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Scrubbing the Sky - Episode 2: Bill Gates & Building a Climate ‘Miracle’
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28:02Host Ed Whittingham continues the story behind the development of Direct Air Capture (DAC) technology and its potential role in helping to fight climate change. Ed explores the early days of Canadian cleantech company Carbon Engineering, and how it drew the attention of both Bill Gates and Occidental Petroleum. Guests include: Ken Caldeira, senior …
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The USA vs Climate - Trump's New Climate & Energy Policy with Dr. Jesse Jenkins
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1:05:40Jesse Jenkins, David Keith, and Ed Whittingham break down the key policy reversals, their impact on U.S. emissions, and the broader geopolitical and economic consequences—for Canada and beyond. Plus, audience questions! Full Show notes with links to references on our website About Our Guest: Jesse D. Jenkins is an assistant professor and macro-scal…
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Kanika Chawla: Clean Energy for Development, Not Just Decarbonization
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39:15Kanika Chawla, Chief of Staff at SEforALL, joins Rose and Katie to discuss what to expect from the 2025 SEforALL Global Forum, how SEforALL builds trust with governments, and what’s next for SDG7. Plus, why she calls London her favorite Indian city (yes, really).
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Scrubbing the Sky - Episode 1 - Carbon Removal: Engineering Earth's Cooling
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26:05EvC co-host Ed Whittingham's new series on Carbon Dioxide Removal Host Ed Whittingham dives into the world of Direct Air Capture (DAC), a technology that extracts carbon dioxide directly from the ambient air. Ed explores the early history of carbon dioxide removal, why it could be useful in fighting climate change, and challenges the technology has…
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Trailer - Scrubbing the Sky: Inside the Race to Cool the Planet
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1:47The race to remove carbon is on. This is the inside story. 🌎 Scrubbing the Sky: Inside the Race to Cool the Planet drops early March 🌎 This narrative podcast series takes listeners through one of the most ambitious climate efforts ever attempted: removing carbon from the atmosphere. Join EvC's co-host Ed Whittingham as he uncovers the story behind …
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Faten Aggad: Building Africa’s Policy Negotiation Power
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36:27Faten Aggad, the founder and executive director of the African Future Policies Hub, discusses the future of climate diplomacy, Africa’s green industrialization, and how she’s helping build Africa’s policy negotiation capacity. Visit our website for more information, including the full show notes and transcript. Follow us on LinkedIn, X/Twitter and …
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Ed chats with four movers & shakers in Canadian climate philanthropy. On Nov. 13, 2024, nine prominent Canadian family foundations, including EvC's David Keith’s, announced a combined pledge of $405 million, all dedicated to accelerating Canada’s shift to a low-carbon economy. They touch on: Why this financial commitment occurred and why now The ch…
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Special Episode: Ramsey Day on the Future of Energy Poverty Under Trump
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31:47What might a second Trump presidency mean for energy access and energy investment? In this special episode, we share a recent conversation between Katie and Ramsey Day, former Trump official and current Hub advisor, on the future of US development assistance and energy poverty. Visit our website for more information, including the full show notes a…
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Mark Thurber: Renewables Are Changing the Rules of the Game
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47:44Mark Thurber, associate director of the Program on Energy and Sustainable Development, comes on the show to discuss the unique challenges of integrating renewables in energy markets, why he believes we should all take bigger risks, and how he uses an online game to teach market dynamics. Visit our website for more information, including the full sh…
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Join David & Ed for a special end-of-2024 Ask-Us-Anything episode dedicated to your questions. Thanks to everyone who sent in your questions - we couldn't do it without you! Also, thanks to the Pembina Institute for help with an answer at 22:00 (reference link - Meeting the emissions cap-A feasible pathway for the oil and gas). More show notes on o…
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New York Times Columnist David Wallace-Wells: In Conversation on EvC
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52:46𝘿𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙙 & 𝙀𝙙 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙗𝙚𝙨𝙩-𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙘𝙞𝙚𝙣𝙘𝙚 𝙬𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙖𝙮𝙞𝙨𝙩 𝘿𝙖𝙫𝙞𝙙 𝙒𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚-𝙒𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙨. It's a wide-ranging discussion covering everything from the potential fallout of the US election, shifting global interests and priorities, climate activism, China's role in climate and green energy technology, and as usual - listener questions for our guest. (01:27)…
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Kate Steel: On a Mission for Universal Energy Access
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35:56Kate Steel, co-founder and CEO of Nithio, a start-up focused on financing clean energy companies and informing climate investments in Africa. In this episode, Kate talks with Katie and Rose about how we can fund universal energy access, the off-grid sector and its trajectory, and what she learned from launching Nithio. Visit our website for more in…
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Ed's #GivingTuesday Fundraising Pitch for Energy vs Climate
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2:27Support Energy vs Climate on #GivingTuesday Energy vs Climate is a labour of love – we hosts don't draw a salary from the show because we feel strongly about the public service benefit of the project. But, we still have production costs. So, we're asking one last time for you to please consider making a one-time or monthly donation in our only annu…
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EvC x Climate Book Reviews: "She’s a Killer" author Kirsten McDougall
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35:40Climate Book Reviews is co-hosted by EvC's own Ed Whittingham and his friend Roger Thompson, Associate Dean and Professor of Writing and Rhetoric at Stony Brook University in New York. Each episode highlights some climate related books worth knowing about. This episode is an interview with New Zealand author Kirsten McDougall about her novel, She’s…
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Joel Nana: There Is No One-Size-Fits-All Energy Transition
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37:28Joel Nana, program manager at Sustainable Energy Africa and Hub fellow, joins the show to talk about climate action planning, the importance of energy planning at a subnational level, and Africa’s solar revolution. Visit our website for more information, including the full show notes and transcript. Follow us on LinkedIn, X/Twitter and subscribe to…
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Raising the Heat: How Warming Can Reduce Lifespans & Slow Economic Growth with Michael Greenstone
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51:15David & Ed chat with University of Chicago's Michael Greenstone. Show Notes: (02:52) Engineering the Planet (03:25) The future of the Temperature–Mortality Relationship (04:48) Valuing the Global Mortality Consequences of Climate Change (07:36) Climate Damages and Adaptation Potential Across Sectors of the US (09:35) Heat Exposure & Poverty (11:30)…
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Solar Geoengineering: Should we go there? LIVE SHOW with David Keith & Ed Whittingham
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44:57𝗟𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗘𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗴𝘆 𝗗𝗶𝘀𝗿𝘂𝗽𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘀: 𝗨𝗡𝗜𝗧𝗘 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗗𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝗞𝗲𝗶𝘁𝗵 & 𝗘𝗱 𝗪𝗵𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗵𝗮𝗺 David and Ed hit the stage at the Energy Disruptors: UNITE 2024 summit in Calgary to discuss solar geoengineering, a major focus of David's academic research. Together, they unpack the technical and non-technical dimensions of solar geoengineering, including global governance a…
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Electric Vehicle (EV) Ownership vs Level 1 Charging with Sara Hastings-Simon
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26:56Rethinking EV Charging A commonly held belief by new or prospective EV owners is that purchasing one requires the installation of a “level 2”, or 240 volt, home charger. Sara and Ed chat about recent University of Calgary research that challenges this assumption. They discuss considerations that might go into choosing which option is best for EV ow…
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Campaigning on Climate: Climate, Politics, and Elections with The Strategists podcast's Stephen Carter
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47:43We have a special climate politics focused show to open the new season. It's a time of elections here in Canada and the U.S. As multiple campaigns heat up, we’re asking, where does climate fit in as an issue? David Keith and Ed Whittingham chat with political strategist and co-host of The Strategists podcast, Stephen Carter, to understand where cli…
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A personal message from EvC co-host Sara Hastings-Simon. You can find more information on cancer screening in Canada at the Canadian Cancer Society website. Send us a text (if you'd like a response, please include your email) Produced by Amit Tandon & Bespoke Podcasts ___ Energy vs Climate Podcast www.energyvsclimate.com Contact us at info@energyvs…
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Introducing Climate Now: When insurers can no longer afford the risk
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26:38Introducing Climate Now: Today, we are excited to bring you an episode from the Climate Now podcast. Climate Now, hosted by James Lawler, and accessible wherever you listen to podcasts as well as on their website - climatenow.com - is a podcast and newsletter that explores and explains the ideas, technologies, and policies we need to address the gl…
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The High Energy Rewind: Season 3 Highlights with Katie and Rose
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39:20Welcome to the last episode of Season 3! Hosts Rose Mutiso and Katie Auth sit down together to revisit their favorite moments from the past season. They share standout clips from this season’s interviews, highlighting conversations with this season’s guests on everything from Nigeria’s net zero model to the importance of humility. Listen in to reli…
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Energy vs Climate is available wherever you get your podcasts. Produced by Amit Tandon Send us a text (if you'd like a response, please include your email) Produced by Amit Tandon & Bespoke Podcasts ___ Energy vs Climate Podcast www.energyvsclimate.com Contact us at [email protected] Bluesky | YouTube | LinkedIn | X/Twitter…
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Benjamin Attia: Why We Want Climate Finance to Be Boring
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34:57Benjamin Attia, energy transition researcher, energy systems modeler, and long-time Hub fellow, joins the show to talk about his career as a professional researcher, explain why blended finance is more than a buzzword, and help us nerd out on climate finance. Visit our website for more information, including the full show notes and transcript. Foll…
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Canada vs Climate: Federal Minister of Energy & Natural Resources, Jonathan Wilkinson
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58:53David, Sara, and Ed talk to Canada's Minister of Energy & Natural Resources, Jonathan Wilkinson. Show Notes: (02:57) Powering Canada Forward (04:24) Modernizing the energy sector (06:28) Powering Canada (07:46) Canada’s Electric Reliability Framework (11:30) Canadian Climate Institute (12:17) Mohawk Council of Kahnawake inks deal with Hydro-Québec …
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FROM FIBS TO FINES: Climate Disinformation, Lawsuits & Their Ripple Effects with Dr Benjamin Franta
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53:13David, Sara, and Ed talk to Dr Benjamin Franta, Senior Research Fellow in Climate Litigation at the Oxford Sustainable Law Programme and the founding head of the Climate Litigation Lab. Show Notes: (01:05) Dr. Benjamin Franta (02:20) Nearly 15% of Americans deny climate change is real (02:25) The social anatomy of climate change denial in the US (0…
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Fully Charged: Battery Storage & How to Make it Better with Dr. Y. Shirley Meng
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49:44Hosts David, Sara, and Ed chat with battery storage expert Dr. Shirley Meng of the University of Chicago. About Our Guest: Dr. Y. Shirley Meng is a Professor at the Pritzker School of Molecular Engineering at the University of Chicago. She serves as the Chief Scientist of the Argonne Collaborative Center for Energy Storage Science (ACCESS) Argonne …
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EvC Bonus - HOT TOPIC: Alberta Electricity Update with Blake Shaffer
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48:14Another BONUS Podcast Episode! The electricity file has been popping, especially in Alberta, where on a weekly basis a clash of worldviews on the future of electricity generation is on full display. About Our Guest Blake Shaffer is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Economics at The University of Calgary. He works on electricity markets, c…
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Sheila Herrling, the Energy for Growth Hub’s first Board Chair and expert in international development, US foreign policy, entrepreneurship, and philanthropy joins Rose and Katie for this episode of High Energy Planet. This episode explores challenges in development finance, why supporting diverse entrepreneurship is critical to creating change, an…
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EvC Bonus - Hot Topic: Carbon Tax with Mark Jaccard
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59:10New BONUS Podcast Episode Canada's consumer carbon tax policy has been getting a lot of press attention of late, especially following the $15/T increase that took affect on April 1, 2024. Much has been said about it across the political spectrum, some of it accurate, and some of it just plain wrong. David's away this month, so it's just Sara and Ed…
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Buzzkill: Understanding the Shift in Media Perception Towards EVs with Dr. Simon Evans
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52:40Dr. Simon Evans, Deputy Editor & Senior Policy Editor at Carbon Brief join co-hosts David, Sara, and Ed, to tease apart EV fact from fiction. About Our Guest: Simon Evans is deputy editor and policy editor at Carbon Brief. Simon covers climate and energy policy. He holds a PhD in biochemistry from Bristol University and previously studied chemistry…
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Murefu Barasa: Everyone Has a Role in the Energy Transition
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42:45Murefu Barasa, founder and managing partner at EED Advisory, comes on the show to discuss starting one of the only Pan-African energy consulting firms, how the energy sector has changed for the better (and worse) in the last decade, and the differences between the energy transition in Africa and the US. Visit our website for more information, inclu…
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