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Sacred and Profane: Bending the Binaries of Faith , is a podcast bringing queer and faith perspectives to the ordinary and extraordinary topics that are threaded through our lives. Pam Rocker and Roberto Che Espinoza spend a lot of time in the public square talking about faith, religion, LGBTQ+ stuff, and queer possibility, fused together with comedy. Pam and Roberto are kindred spirits and Texans who are immersed in activist and spiritual movements. Sacred and Profane puts the elements of s ...
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A podcast by church kids for church kids-- figuring out life, art and culture on the other side of the evangelical bubble. Equal parts heavy and light.
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Permission To BE is a podcast created to share the journeys of leaning into authenticity of being. Authenticity encapsulates many things including racism, gender or non-gender identity, mental health, and political leanings which we believe are connected to our spiritual beliefs. Tommy Allgood, Olivia Bethea, and Becka Eppley co-host the Permission To BE Podcast.
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It’s All Gonna Be Okay (Series Finale)
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Well they say all rotten things must come to an end. In this final episode, I have a laid back conversation with my friend, the Pastor of Pump himself, Danny Prada. We talk about our respective journeys, how we have grown as individuals, how DRCK has impacted our lives, and how we feel as it all comes to a close. From the bottom of my heart, thank …
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What I Wish I Knew About Deconstruction
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On this, second to last DRCK episode, I had the privilege of hanging out with my friend Janice (God Has Not Given! Bad Words! General Menace!) , and new friend Tim (The New Evangelicals!). We discuss the things we would go back and tell ourselves about our personal deconstruction journeys– the good, the bad, the dogmatic. We also discuss platform c…
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Ever Becoming with Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza
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This week I had the privilege of chatting with friend of the show and friend of mine, theologian and author Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (Body Becoming! Activist Theology!). We have a laid back conversation about rest, embodiment, finding the third way and taking time to dream about the world we wish to see. I also go on a mild rant about being funempl…
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Pleasure Practice with Portia Brown
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This week I had the privilege of speaking with sex educator and sex empowerment coach Portia Brown (Froetic Sexology!) . We discuss her upbringing in evangelical spaces, the ways she subverted the sex scripts she was handed, and the deliberate pursuit of pleasure practices. TIMESTAMPS: Interview - 5:04 Post Interview - 52:09 Sip, Smoke, Read - 57:3…
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Dirty Rotten Missions Trips with Kevin Garcia and Mason Mennenga
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This week we’re talking about missions! My co-hosts for this episode are podcasters, writers, and friends Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution!) and Mason Mennenga (A People’s Theology! The Black Sheep Podcast!). Together we unpack our experiences with short term mission trips, the ideas and doctrines that informed so many of them, a…
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This week, I have the absolute privilege of speaking with songwriter, producer, genius Joy Oladokun. We discuss their upbringing in Christian spaces, stepping into truth and the creative journey. We discuss her new album, Proof of Life, the songwriting and creative process, and the art of sifting through faith traditions to find the goodness. We al…
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Professional Christian with Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry
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On this episode, I have the privilege of chatting with podcast hosts Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry (REVcovery!). We talk about what it was Iike deconstructing while in full time ministry, the struggles of making significant career changes, and the impostor syndrome that comes along with it. We also discuss what we have found that brings joy on the …
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Finitude, Gratitude, and Presence with Holly Laurent
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This week I have the absolute pleasure of chatting with podcaster, writer, and performer Holly Laurent (MEGA The Podcast!). We talk about her upbringing in evangelical spaces, and the faith change that ultimately led to Mega The Podcast. We talk about humor, creativity, walking the fine line of familiar and unfamiliar, and finding the lovely things…
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For the first episode of the season, I chat with podcaster, author, and academic Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus!). We discuss his upbringing as a Japanese American within evangelicalism, the origins of extremist Christian nationalism and what comes next, his new book, and I have a big announcement to make about this season! Learn more a…
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Becka, Tommy, and Olivia welcome back to the podcast, author, speaker, and founder of Check Your Privilege, Myisha T Hill. Their conversation is full of laughter, wisdom, and insights on Myisha's last work, Heal Your Way Forward: The Co-Conspirator's Guide to an Antiracist Future. https://www.myishathill.com For more information on this episode and…
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It’s the last DRCK of 2022! What a year it has been. I’m wrapping it all up with singer/musician/producer Lucy Dacus! We talk about her upbringing within a cerebral evangelicalism, VBS, Purity Culture, and unravelling what she was handed. We also talk about her latest full length, this year’s EP, her creative process and ways in how she has found c…
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We Have Each Other with Jon Huertas
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This week I got to chat with actor, director and writer Jon Huertas (This is Us! Castle! Sabrina the Teenage Witch!). We talked about his upbringing within the catholic church, moving out of religious spaces to nontheism, and reasons he let go of the dogma he was handed to instead embrace belief in humanity. We also talk about creativity, the hard …
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Not Even A Hint with Blair @TalkPurityToMe
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This week we’re talking purity! This week’s guest co-host is Blair from TalkPurityToMe–we discuss growing up in house churches, and some of the ways we were taught about purity and modesty, as well as some of the ways we are still feeling the aftermath. We also hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by Date Me Jesus Timestamps: Date Me Je…
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BONUS PATREON EPISODE: Meet Producer Delbreezy!
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On this off-week I wanted to give you bad apples a sneak peak at the Patreon episodes and introduce my friend and new producer/editor, Joshua Delbridge aka Delbreezy! We talk about his backstory, being queer in evangelical spaces, and how we met. We also sip, smoke and read together. Enjoy! Interview 1:42 Sip, Smoke Read 53:05 Irreverent Media Grou…
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Human Overboard with Rhett McLaughlin
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This week I had the chance to chat with comedian, podcaster, author, director and musician Rhett McLaughlin (Rhett and Link! Good Mythical Morning! James and the Shame!). We talk about his upbringing in church, deconstructing while in the public eye, and creating therapeutic music. He also answers some questions from the bad apples. Brought to you …
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Blab it and Grab it with Tori Williams Douglass
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This week we talk prosperity! My guest cohost is podcaster, speaker, author and friend Tori Williams Douglass (White Homework! Go Home Bible You're Drunk!). Together we unpack the health and wealth gospel. We discuss how we were brought up in that theology, the harm it causes and how we unlearn some of the language on the other side. We also answer…
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Disembodiment and Our Body Politic (LIVE) w/ Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza and Rev. Anna Golladay
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Tommy and Becka are joined by Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza and Rev. Anna Golladay for Permission To Be’s very first LIVE and collaborative podcast. Their conversation envelops embodiment, presence, and Dr. Roberto's latest book, Body Becoming: A Path to Liberation. This conversation is also the final episode in the PTB current series of conversations, …
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Safe, Certain and Secure with Phil Drysdale
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This week I got to chat with podcaster, writer, speaker, researcher and community organizer Phil Drysdale (The Deconstruction Network! The Phil Drysdale Show!). We discuss his upbringing as a church kid in the UK, how his faith changed and the work he has been doing within the deconstruction space. We talk about some of his research findings, commo…
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Time, Talent and Mostly Treasures with Janice Lagata
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Dirty Rotten Church Kids is back and this week I have the pleasure of bringing back podcaster, general menace and friend Janice Lagata (God Has Not Given!) This week we talked about passing the plate--how we were brought up learning about tithing, ways in which church taught us about possessions and how we approached tithing during our faith change…
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Do You Want to Be Free? w/ Andre Henry
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Tommy, Olivia, and Becka welcome back writer, musician, and artivist, Andre Henry, to the Permission To Be Podcast. This special edition of the PTB Podcast is filled with deep knowledge on the necessity of unity, conversation about Andre's latest book, "All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep", and an abundance of joy and laughter. You will also have…
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Christians Against Christianity w/ Dr. Obery M. Hendricks, Jr. (Moment of Now Series, Part 2)
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Welcome to the second conversation in our series, "The Moment of Now." Happy Pride Month and Juneteenth! In this episode Tommy, Olivia and Becka talk with Dr. Obery Hendricks. This conversation helps to challenge us as we think about the "Left" and the "Right," as we use these terms to stake out political sides, what are we signaling? What does thi…
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My Body Is Not A Prayer Request w/ Dr. Amy Kenny (Moment of Now Series, Part 1)
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Welcome to our very first conversation in our series, "The Moment of Now." In this Episode Dr. Amy Kenny joins Tommy, Olivia, and Becka for a conversation about Disability Justice and Amy's brand new book, My Body Is Not A Prayer Request. Dr. Amy Kenny is a disabled scholar and a Shakespeare Lecturer who hates Hamlet. Her work has been featured in …
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A Healing Journey w/ Dr. Christena Cleveland
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Dr. Christena Cleveland joins Tommy, Olivia, and Becka for a conversation centered around her past and current healing journey guided by the Sacred Black Feminine. During their conversation Dr. Cleveland also talks about her new book, "God is A Black Woman." If you would like to learn more in community and/or help support the creation of the Permis…
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In case you missed it--we had the chance to make an appearance at our friend Kevin Garcia's Crowded Table Event in Atlanta. We recorded the show for those that couldn't make it, and took some time afterwards to recap and sip, smoke, read together. We talk about cancelled flights and driving through the night, discovering Josh is actually an Enneagr…
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This week we had the pleasure of speaking with C. Davis (Deconstructing Colors!). We discuss her church upbringing, how actually believing the Bible often leads to deconstruction, and how the perceived safety found within cultural Christianity keeps many folks in the pews. We also talk about putting first things first and answer questions from the …
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Rerooting Yourself w/ Lisa Sharon Harper (Part 2)
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Join Tommy, Olivia, and Becka for part two of their conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper as they look at the significance and impact of rerooting ourselves within our peoples' story. Lisa's newly released book is, Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World--and How to Repair It All. If you would like to learn more in community and/or help supp…
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This week we talk about "culturally relevant" churches, how we were brought up in Hip Christianity ™, the ways people were leveraged to keep the machine running and the ways people were reduced to an attendance statistic. We also take a Texas Anti-Trans bill to Hellcourt, play a game of Improv Sunday School Songs and hear stories from the Bad Apple…
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An Oral Narrative of Generational Trauma w/ Lisa Sharon Harper (Part 1)
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Tommy, Olivia, and Becka are joined by Lisa Sharon Harper for a conversation centered around generational trauma, a journey towards healing, and Lisa's newly released book, Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World--and How to Repair It All. If you would like to learn more in community and/or help support the creation of the Permission To Be …
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All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep w/ Andre Henry
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This week we had the pleasure of speaking with singer-songwriter, author, podcaster and activist Andre Henry. We discuss his new book, ‘All The White Friends I Couldn’t Keep’, and moving from racial reconciliation to the work of antiracism and decolonization. We talk about his story leaving white evangelicalism, how the personal is political and ho…
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