If you find yourself having trouble with applying grace into your everyday life, then the Trueface Podcast is for you. Our hope is to provide practical and helpful applications of grace and truth so that we can live beyond the mask. Every other week, guests share a story, discuss a principal, and apply it to our lives.
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200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement for Pastors of Small Churches
Jeff Keady and Jonny Craig: Pastors, Leaders, Bloggers, Podcasters, and Encouragers
Jeff and Jonny are pastors who want to encourage pastors of “smaller” churches. All most pastors see online are the churches that have grown into the thousands in just a few years, the ones that spread out around the city through multiple services and multiple campuses. The ministry leaders with the most influence are the mega church pastors with mega ministries, staffs, and dollars. Praise God for what He is doing in these large and influential churches! We benefit from their vision and inf ...
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Go Deep, Not Wide: Why the Church Must Rethink Discipleship // Brian Mosley
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39:59What if true discipleship means going deeper, not wider? In this conversation with our friend Brian Mosley, president of RightNow Media, we explore what it looks like to lead, steward, and discern with courage in seasons of transition. From his family’s three-generation journey of ministry to his bold shift from DVDs to streaming, Brian shares how …
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The Hidden Obstacles to Your Breakthrough // Marcus Warner
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43:27Why do we get stuck in the same struggles year after year—even as Christians longing for freedom? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Marcus Warner, president of Deeper Walk International, to unpack why so many of us stall out in our spiritual growth and how we can move toward real breakthrough. Together, we explore the “five engines” that drive …
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Stop Fixing—Empathy Is Real Love // Bill & Kristi Gaultiere
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40:36What does it really mean to live in the “easy yoke” of Jesus? In this conversation with our friends Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, we explore how empathy, grace, and slow faithfulness transform our everyday walk with God. Together, we unpack their decades of counseling, ministry, and personal growth—learning what it looks like to move through walls in …
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Leadership Is Formed in the Wilderness // Lindy Black
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46:45What if the most important leadership lessons aren’t learned on a stage, but in the wilderness, through pruning, weakness, and limitation? In this conversation with Lindy Black, we explore how God shapes leaders from the inside out. With decades of experience in the Navigators and Trueface, Lindy shares her own journey of discovering her gifting, r…
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Exhaustion Isn't Faithfulness // Nathan LaGrange
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48:04What if the life Jesus invites us into is less about what we do for Him and more about simply being with Him? In this episode, we sit down with our new friend Nathan LaGrange, Executive Director of Oasis Rest International, to explore how leaders—and all of us—can move from exhaustion and performance into rhythms of rest, renewal, and presence with…
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When Renewal Breaks Out in Canada // Brent Ingersoll
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55:36What does revival look like in a post-secular culture? In this conversation with Brent Ingersoll, lead pastor of King’s Church in Atlantic Canada, we explore how God has been moving in powerful ways north of the border. Brent shares his story of transformation, the surprising renewal that reshaped his church, and the incredible testimonies of lives…
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From Bankruptcy to Breakthrough // Scott Boyd
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47:55What happens when your business fails, your spouse is diagnosed with cancer, and everything you’ve built feels like it’s slipping away? In this powerful conversation, we sit down with longtime friend and marketplace leader Scott Boyd. Scott shares his journey from early faith and career struggles to encountering the transformative message of grace …
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“Teach Me to Pray”: A Journey of Faith at 81 // Judy Wilson
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59:14Have you ever wondered if you're doing prayer all wrong? In this episode, we sit down with our dear friend and intercessor Judy Wilson, whose 50-year journey of prayer has been anything but formulaic. From seasons of silence to supernatural encounters, Judy shares how prayer has shaped her faith, sustained her through tragedy, and taught her to tru…
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Attachment and the Abundant Life // Michael Cusick
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42:43What if the greatest spiritual practice is simply letting Jesus love us? In this powerful conversation with our friend Michael Cusick, we explore the deep connection between spiritual formation, attachment, and the embodied experience of God's love. We talk about how trauma, distraction, and striving can keep us from truly being present—to ourselve…
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The Myth of Balance & Gift of Limits // Alan Briggs
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41:58Are we overwhelmed, underwhelmed… or is there a better way? In this episode, we sit down with Alan Briggs—coach, author, and founder of Stay Forth—to unpack the tension we all feel between exhaustion and disengagement. From sabbaticals to daily rhythms, Alan shares what it means to live a “whelmed” life: not redlining, not coasting, but being fully…
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How to Win Where It Really Matters // John Olinger
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49:15What if you’re chasing the wrong win? In this episode, we sit down with John Olinger—former Nike exec, leadership coach, and author of Worthy Wins—to unpack what it means to succeed in the areas that matter most. From high-stakes marketing at Nike to the raw wake-up call of losing his father, John shares how redefining success radically reshaped hi…
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Transforming Family Dynamics Through Grace // Janet Newberry
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46:46What if the biggest transformation starts at our own dinner table? In this episode, we sit down with our friend Janet Newberry to unpack how grace-based living shapes not just education but the very heart of family. We explore what it means to “practice the art of being family,” and how atmosphere, discipline, and life can form a discipleship model…
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Sharing Your Faith through Friendship // Jon Ferguson
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36:50What if the key to sharing Jesus is simply being a good friend? In this episode, we sit down with Jon Ferguson to unpack BLESS—a simple, powerful framework for loving our neighbors the way Jesus did. As we talk through each step—Begin with Prayer, Listen, Eat, Serve, and Share Your Story—we’re reminded that discipleship and evangelism aren’t about …
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What if forgiveness wasn’t just for the offender—but the path to your own freedom? In this powerful conversation, we sit down with Louise Sedgwick, a longtime friend of the Trueface community whose story first appeared in the original TrueFaced book. Louise shares her harrowing journey through childhood trauma, the deep disconnect between her knowl…
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Striving, Stuck, or Trusting? // Benjamin Crawshaw
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48:11Are we actually growing in our faith, or just going through the motions? Many of us get stuck—either striving to do more for God or sitting back in passivity, wondering if this is all there is. In this episode, we sit down with Benjamin Croshaw, co-author of The Path, to unpack the secret to true spiritual maturity. We explore why trusting God is s…
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Are you stuck in a shame spiral and don’t even realize it? In this powerful episode, we finally welcome our longtime teammate and creative force Brittany Colson to the podcast. Brittany not only co-authored The Path, she also brings her experience as a licensed therapist to unpack one of its most pivotal chapters: “The Wound.” Together, we explore …
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What If Jesus' Way Is Different? // Bruce McNicol
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39:37What if the way of Jesus is different than you thought? As we celebrate 30 years of Trueface, we’re launching The Path, a book designed to help the next generation experience the freedom and grace of Jesus in a fresh way. In this episode, Robby Angle sits down with Trueface co-founder Bruce McNicol to unpack the heart behind The Path, the power of …
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The Brain Science Behind Spiritual Growth // Jim Wilder
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52:10Why do so many of us struggle to experience the peace and freedom Jesus promises? We know the right answers, but often, our lives still feel stuck in fear, performance, and isolation. In this conversation, Robby sits down with Dr. Jim Wilder—author, neurotheologian, and expert in brain science and spiritual formation—to unpack how our brains are wi…
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How can we live a life that truly reflects who we are meant to be in Christ? In this episode of the TrueFace Podcast, we sit down with Bill Thrall, co-founder of Trueface, to explore just that. Celebrating 30 years of ministry, Bill shares the profound insights and stories from his journey with Trueface, a path marked by fostering genuine relations…
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God Speaks, Are You Listening? // Jason Glaze
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46:01How do we hear God in the noise of everyday life? Welcome to this special episode of the TrueFace Podcast, where we delve deep into the mysteries of divine communication. Join us as Robby Angle and his guest, Jason Glaze, explore the profound yet often overlooked ways God speaks to us. As founder of New Name Ministries and a seasoned counselor, Jas…
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In June of 2018 Jonny and I had a conversation with Brandon Patterson, who was then the Pastor at the church in Plains, GA attended by a well known former U.S. President, Jimmy Carter. Brandon was newly married and 24 years old at the time, and while talk of pastoring a presidential family was interesting, the HEART of this small church pastor was …
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Episode 425 - Jeff's Update: The FBI, Unity, and Grandchildren
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18:07After more than one year... here is a new episode! So I took a little time off... This is a short one with the intention of more to come!By Jeff Keady and Jonny Craig: Pastors, Leaders, Bloggers, Podcasters, and Encouragers
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Episode 424 - Rick Warren Coaches First Time Church Planter Willie Johnson
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1:24:51What a blast to use my podcast to introduce Rick Warren to a church planter who hasn't even launched his first public service yet! Willie Johnson is with REDEFINE CHURCH in St. Louis MO. Rick's project these days is FinishingTheTask.com. I asked Rick to coach Willie, from his perspective as a church planter who has handed off his church to the next…
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Episode 423 - The Secret Power of Kindness with Greg Atkinson
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45:37Greg Atkinson was on the 200churches Podcast 10 years ago! Way back in July of 2013 he joined us, when we were only six months old as a podcast - and now, ten years later he is back for the fourth or fifth time - with a great episode about something so fundamental to our Christian life, that we almost miss it: KINDNESS. Check out Greg's book: The S…
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Episode 422 - The Necessity of the Neighborhood Church with Sam Rainer
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54:44Jeff talks with Sam Rainer, Pastor of West Bradenton Baptist Church in Florida, the President of Church Answers, and the author of the new book - The Surprising Return of the Neighborhood Church. Sam is a great example of a 200church pastor who refuses to imagine a limit on his impact based on the size of his church. This is an encouraging conversa…
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Episode 421 - Prayer, Evangelism, ChatGPT, and Church Answers with Thom Rainer
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48:15Thom Rainer is the co-host with his son Sam of the Rainer On Leadership Podcast, and the founder of ChurchAnswers.com and ChurchAnswers.University. Thom is a research guy and a data guy and has studied the church for many years. He has written many books which you can see listed HERE. Thom and Jeff spoke about Thom's book, Pray and Go, which releas…
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Episode 420 - Finally! A Framework For Relational Discipleship with Robby Angle
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56:18Robby Angle is the CEO of Trueface.org and joins Jeff today to talk about what he and his team are doing with Trueface, about his life and background, and about how Trueface is resourcing churches with training in best practices for discipleship. As Jeff said on the podcast, Trueface.org is offering some great training for you and your small group …
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Episode 419 - The Art and Heart of a Shepherd with Tony Franklin
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1:06:59Pastor Tony is the pastor of Nicholasville United Methodist Church in Nicholasville Kentucky. You are in for a real treat with a humble, godly, 200church pastor from Kentucky. Enjoy! Check out Tony' book, Jesus, The Four Gospels in Politics HERE!By Jeff Keady and Jonny Craig: Pastors, Leaders, Bloggers, Podcasters, and Encouragers
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Episode 418 - We Talk About David's Book: When Church Stops Working - Meeting With God In Your Living Room
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1:01:03David Wentz was a pastor for 38 years, originally an Engineer by vocation, and now an author and equipper of pastors around the world. Lots of kids and grandkids (I've forgotten how many!) David and I speak for a bit about the revival at Asbury, and revivals in general - quite interesting to me. But we talk mostly about the ability of the church to…
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Episode 417 - She's Writing the 1 Peter Volume of the NICNT - and We Talk About It! A Fascinating Conversation with Dr. Jeannine Brown
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1:00:53She's still writing the 1 Peter volume of the New International Commentary on the New Testament. She is on the NIV Translation Team. She has written three commentaries on Matthew and one on Philippians, as well as a book called Scripture As Communication, a book on biblical hermeneutics. We talk about 1 Peter's content, but also what happens from t…
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Episode 416 - Rick Warren Talks Ministry, the SBC, Transition, Finishing Well, and More!
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1:21:46On the eve of Saddleback's ouster from the Southern Baptist Convention, Rick Warren marched through a long conversation with me and Jonny. Rick talks about that in this episode. It's obvious he's not happy about it, but as always he remains gracious. Undaunted by rejection, Rick is focused on his new calling, as the leader of FTT, Finishing The Tas…
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Episode 415 - Wondering at the Beauty of God with Steve Dewitt
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57:35Steve Dewitt is a husband, and father of two daughters, an author, pastor, and Christian leader. This is a conversation about his most recent book, and so much more! You're going to like Steve! Check out a lot (not everything!) of what Steve is up to below... Steve's Radio/Podcast Ministry: The Journey Bethel Church where Steve is Lead Pastor Steve…
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Episode 414 - Leading Your People To Be A Praying Church, Hearing From God, and Following Scripture Not Fads with Jim Cymbala from the Brooklyn Tabernacle
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55:44Jim Cymbala for 50 years had pastored the Brooklyn Tabernacle in Brooklyn - New York City. He joined Jeff to talk about his approach to ministry, his latest book, his experience through COVID, and him opinions on ministry culture, church growth, sermon prep, and so much more! Jim has produced TheCallingSeries.org for pastors and church leaders - a …
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Episode 413 - A Conversation on Ministry and Staffing with Todd Rhoades
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1:02:20Todd Rhoades has been in the "Connecting Staff to Churches" business since the dawn of the New Millennium, the year 2000! He recently spent 10 years on the team at the Leadership Network, and almost four years ago co-founded ChemistryStaffing.com with Matt Steen. Todd has been neck deep in ministry practice, theory, and leadership for a long time. …
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Episode 412 - Stop Planning and Start Getting Results with Roger Parrott
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57:05Roger Parrott is the President of Belhaven University in Jackson Mississippi. He has written a book unlike any book I've ever seen on leadership - it's called Opportunity Leadership - Stop Planning and Start Getting Results. Roger told me "getting rid of planning is the single best leadership decision I ever made!" I spoke with Dr. Parrott about hi…
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Episode 411 - Could Podcasting Be The New Sunday School For Teaching The Church?
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55:03Thanks again to Marc for what he's doing to help pastors of small churches! Here’s some links for the show notes: Small Church Media Website: https://smallchurch.media/ Link to “Podcasting for Churches” series: https://smallchurch.media/podcasting-for-churches/ Real Talk Christian Podcast Website: https://realtalkchristianpodcast.com/ If you want t…
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Episode 410 - How To Have Enjoyable and Effective Team Meetings
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59:43This is a supremely practical episode as Dave Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.com, and I talk about leadership team meetings, and how to make them both enjoyable and productive. We cover a ton of ground in this episode! You will hear a number of things that connect with your experience and give you some ways to improve how you are planning and leadi…
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Episode 409 - Church As A Vibrant Expression - From Stained Glass To Kaleidoscope
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59:05Kurt Trempert from HarvestDowntown.org in Colorado Springs joins Jeff today for Episode 409. Kurt's book, Kaleidoscope - Keeping the Church from becoming a Museum, was released in 2017, and while they talk about the message of the book, they also talk all things church ministry. Kind of a part one to this episode would be Weekend Edition 34 of the …
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Episode 408 - A Take On Forgiveness That Might Surprise You - with Bruce and Toni Hebel
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1:05:22Bruce and Toni Hebel join Jeff to talk about their teaching on Forgiving Forward. They counsel, consult, and coach with individuals, leaders, pastoral couples, and many more every week of the year. What does it look like to actually forgive? What does forgiveness mean? How about repentance? Reconciliation? Healing? The impact on mental health? Bruc…
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Episode 407 - ChurchOS - An Operating System for Intentional Churches
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45:39Jeff talks with Doug Parks, CEO of IntentionalChurches.com. Doug tells a little of his own story, and how God led him to what he is currently doing, and how he helped start Intentional Churches. ChurchOS is a theologically and biblically based Operational Plan for your church. Doug and his team helps churches every week and whether you retain them …
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Episode 406 - Hop To It! Quick Ministry Coaching with John Finkelde
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17:44Jeff talked with John Finkelde, founder of GrowAHealthyChurch.com in Perth, Australia about the qualities of a pastor who is emotionally healthy, unhurried, and at peace... among other things. This is a short, quick, effective episode that will give you some fodder for ministry thoughts and initiatives, plus some healthy encouragement. Enjoy!…
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Episode 405 - Leadership In A New Ministry and the Need For Encouragement with Dave Ronan
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1:02:46Dave Ronan Ph.D. is an expert in Intercultural Studies, a pastor, a missionary, a professor, a Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Air Force, and one who has trained Foreign Military Advisors, State Department personnel, and so much more. Dave is currently a pastor of a Kanto Plains Baptist Church near an Air Force base in Toyko, Japan with a congregati…
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Episode 404 - From the Circles of Evangelical Prominence and Political Influence to the Jesus-Centered Local Church - One Pastor's Perspective
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53:25David Wilson serves as the Executive Pastor at Harvest Downtown in Colorado Springs CO. He has served in para-church organizations that brought him into close proximity with prominent evangelical leaders who wielded political influence nationally. He helped them organize and fundraise. He served with them personally. But today he is more convinced …
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Episode 403 - What We Learned From A Black Woman Theologian with Christena Cleveland
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46:19This conversation Jonny and I had with that Jonny and I had with Christena Cleveland was eye opening and enlightening. It helped us to see the world from another person's perspective. Before Tamir Rice, George Floyd, and so many others - we had this conversation with Christena. We know you'll be encouraged and learn... Christena's book - DisUnity I…
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Episode 402 - Empowering People Toward Their Highest Calling with Paul Schlieker
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47:39Paul and Peggy Schlieker are lay people who have never let that status keep them from committed service and ministry for Jesus! They are disciples who make disciples in their church and community, and they challenge and empower regular people toward the highest levels of commitment and calling for Christ. Paul shares his discipleship philosophy, an…
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Episode 401 - This Could Be the Greatest Investment in Youth we rarely talk about!
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43:38This episode is with Andy Dykhouse, the Executive Director for Camp Rivercrest in Nebraska. If you are not involved in the summer camp world, this episode is for YOU! Enjoy it, and then get your kids involved in something that will be absolutely life changing! Check out Camp Rivercrest below, or a great Christian Camp in your neck of the woods. Cam…
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Episode 400 - Jeff & Jonny LIVE - Celebrating 400 Episodes
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1:09:11Jeff and Jonny are LIVE together on this episode, catching up after a long summer, reminiscing over the last 400 episodes, and recalling some of the very memorable guests over the years, with cameo appearances by John Lynch, Kay Warren, Vinny Provenzano, and N.T. Wright. This was a blast to record, and you will enjoy this CLASSIC episode! Here are …
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Episode 399 - Let Your Church Be Known For Something with Mark MacDonald
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57:17He is a church communications and branding episode, who is actually the REAL DEAL. He has the heart of an evangelist, and has a craving for churches to reach people for Jesus. Sometimes us pastors can't get out of our own way - my words (Jeff) not his! But Mark MacDonald helps us say less so our community will listen more. As a corporate communicat…
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Episode 398 - Hey Pastor, Here Are Some Things To Reconsider
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46:38Dave Jacobs and I talk about some things that pastors might want to reconsider. They come from his book, Second Thoughts - 100 things small church pastors need to reconsider. Dave recommends we reconsider the length of our sermons reconsider the value of wasting time reconsider our bias (ouch!) The standard for this podcast is twofold: 1) helpful, …
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Episode 397 - Excellent Leadership Through A Horrible Scenario with Suzanne Vogel
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43:53The church was waist deep into a Capital Campaign for a major church renovation, and mere weeks from engaging all the construction work... and then the pandemic hit. Ugh. They had over a million dollars already contributed with millions more pledged. The vision had been cast, all the hard work of strategic planning finished - they had waded into th…
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